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Title: polls 2009-11-09
Post by: JasonN95 on November 09, 2009, 01:44:03 PM
http://www.uscho.com/rankings/?data=uscho1m&season=20092010&week=1109


1 Miami        (49) 8-1-1 999 1
2 North Dakota ( 1) 6-1-1 948 3
3 Cornell         3-0-0 855 5
4 Denver         6-3-1 830 2
5 Mass.-Lowell 5-2-1 778 8
6 Michigan 4-4-0 653 4
7 Bemidji State 7-0-1 599 11
8 Notre Dame 5-4-1 549 9
9 Alaska         6-1-1 521 13
10 Colorado College 5-2-1 478 12
11 Nebraska-Omaha 4-1-3 456 10
12 Yale        1-1-1 435 6
13 Michigan State 7-2-1 425 17
14 Massachusetts 6-1-0 357 19
15 Vermont        3-3-1 329 15
16 Boston College 3-2-1 316 16
17 Boston University 2-5-0 235 7
18 Minnesota-Duluth 6-3-1 178 20
19 Princeton 2-2-0 175 14
20 Quinnipiac 6-1-0 139 NR


How dare ND take what should be Cornell's 1st place vote? :-)
Title: Re: polls 2009-11-09
Post by: Trotsky on November 09, 2009, 02:02:19 PM
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17 Boston University 2-5-0


WTF?
Title: Re: polls 2009-11-09
Post by: ithacat on November 09, 2009, 02:18:58 PM
3 of the next 4 against ranked teams... 4 of the next 6, possibly 5 of the next 7, or 6 of the next 9, or 7 of the next 10...or...yeah, it's a mad schedule. I need some coffee. ::panic::
Title: Re: polls 2009-11-09
Post by: RatushnyFan on November 09, 2009, 02:26:38 PM
Quote from: Trotsky
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17 Boston University 2-5-0


WTF?
I wonder if more college hockey fans are questioning that or Cornell's #3 ranking.  Niagara, Dartmouth and Harvard - we haven't played anyone that tough yet (though at least we've won).  I would rank several other teams ahead of Cornell at this point based on early season results.  It's early and there's a lot of parity so far.  Michigan is 4-4 and they always have the best recruiting class in the country!:-P
Title: Re: polls 2009-11-09
Post by: Cop at Lynah on November 09, 2009, 04:07:54 PM
Cornell men #3 and the woman are #7.  When was the last time both the men's and woman's teams were ranked at the same time ?
Title: Re: polls 2009-11-09
Post by: Swampy on November 09, 2009, 06:13:23 PM
Quote from: Cop at LynahCornell men #3 and the woman are #7.  When was the last time both the men's and woman's teams were ranked at the same time ?
Last week the men were #5 and the women, #10. **]
Title: Re: polls 2009-11-09
Post by: Tom Lento on November 09, 2009, 10:02:36 PM
Quote from: Swampy
Quote from: Cop at LynahCornell men #3 and the woman are #7.  When was the last time both the men's and woman's teams were ranked at the same time ?
Last week the men were #5 and the women, #10. **]

But prior to this season, maybe 1997/98. I don't believe the women have been ranked since then, if they were even ranked at that point, and the men weren't exactly tearing it up on the national scene that year.

It's possible the women were ranked at some point last season, but it seems unlikely.
Title: Re: polls 2009-11-09
Post by: nyc94 on November 10, 2009, 06:06:51 PM
For unknown reasons USCHO has Pairwise Rankings (http://www.uscho.com/rankings/pwr.php) up already as well as Bracketology (http://www.uscho.com/blogs/bracketology/jayson/20091110/what-theres-already-a-bracketology.html) by Jayson Moy.  It's only worth noting because Cornell is currently 8 in the PWR which lands them in - wait for it - St. Paul.  On the plus side, host Minnesota is not currently in the field.
Title: Re: polls 2009-11-09
Post by: French Rage on November 10, 2009, 06:55:03 PM
Quote from: nyc94For unknown reasons USCHO has Pairwise Rankings (http://www.uscho.com/rankings/pwr.php) up already as well as Bracketology (http://www.uscho.com/blogs/bracketology/jayson/20091110/what-theres-already-a-bracketology.html) by Jayson Moy.  It's only worth noting because Cornell is currently 8 in the PWR which lands them in - wait for it - St. Paul.  On the plus side, host Minnesota is not currently in the field.

At this point isn't PWR essentially RPI?
Title: Re: polls 2009-11-09
Post by: KeithK on November 10, 2009, 07:15:55 PM
Quote from: nyc94For unknown reasons USCHO has Pairwise Rankings (http://www.uscho.com/rankings/pwr.php) up already as well as Bracketology (http://www.uscho.com/blogs/bracketology/jayson/20091110/what-theres-already-a-bracketology.html) by Jayson Moy.  It's only worth noting because Cornell is currently 8 in the PWR which lands them in - wait for it - St. Paul.  On the plus side, host Minnesota is not currently in the field.
It just proves that there is a conspiracy to screw Cornell by sending us out west.  We're the only undefeated and untied team left in the coutry and we get sent to St. Paul?  That's outrageous!
Title: Re: polls 2009-11-09
Post by: munchkin on November 10, 2009, 09:12:49 PM
We have played far fewer games that the non-Ivy teams and thus the PWR (although worthless right now) ranking will suffer because of it.
Title: Re: polls 2009-11-09
Post by: Scersk '97 on November 10, 2009, 09:14:04 PM
Quote from: nyc94For unknown reasons USCHO has Pairwise Rankings (http://www.uscho.com/rankings/pwr.php) up already as well as Bracketology (http://www.uscho.com/blogs/bracketology/jayson/20091110/what-theres-already-a-bracketology.html) by Jayson Moy.  It's only worth noting because Cornell is currently 8 in the PWR which lands them in - wait for it - St. Paul.  On the plus side, host Minnesota is not currently in the field.

Perhaps it's the editors' way of indicating gently the stupidity of whoever keeps voting for BU in the poll.
Title: Re: polls 2009-11-09
Post by: jtwcornell91 on November 10, 2009, 11:09:50 PM
Quote from: munchkinWe have played far fewer games that the non-Ivy teams and thus the PWR (although worthless right now) ranking will suffer because of it.

Number of games played is irrelevant to the PWR.  At this stage, because record vs TUC won't contain enough results to qualify, every pairwise comparison will come down to RPI or maybe head-to-head.  USCHO's RPI is apparently not throwing out "bad wins", which I believe the NCAA is still doing; if you do that for us (as for any team with a perfect record) only our toughest opponent (in this case Harvard) counts, and we are #3, not #8:

RPI with "bad wins" removed (http://www.slack.net/~whelan/tbrw/tbrw.cgi?2010/rpi%22)
RPI without "bad wins" removed (http://www.slack.net/~whelan/tbrw/2010/cgi-bin/rankings.cgi?dispRPI=true;refweight=0;PCTweight=25;OPPweight=21;OOPweight=54;topqual=15;homebon=.0000;neutbon=.0000;roadbon=.0000;rpifudge=no;PWCtb=RPI;PWCtbwt=1;PWCh2hwt=1;PWCh2h=per%20game;PWCtucwt=1;TUCdefcrit=rpi;TUCdefrel=top;TUCdefcut=25;TUCdefcrit2=rpi;TUCdefrel2=top;TUCdefcut2=25;PWCtucmingm=10;PWCtucmintm=1;PWCtuccrit=pct;PWCtucomit=true;PWClastwt=0;PWClastnum=16;PWClastcrit=pct;PWCcomwt=1;PWCcommingm=1;PWCcommintm=1;PWCcomcrit=pct;scoresel=current;scores=)

Also, seeding tournament brackets in November is idiotic.
Title: Re: polls 2009-11-09
Post by: Jim Hyla on November 10, 2009, 11:43:30 PM
Quote from: jtwcornell91Also, seeding tournament brackets in November is idiotic.
But so is Browser-busting proto-KRACH thread.::whistle::
Title: Re: polls 2009-11-09
Post by: RichH on November 10, 2009, 11:50:53 PM
Quote from: Jim Hyla
Quote from: jtwcornell91Also, seeding tournament brackets in November is idiotic.
But so is Browser-busting proto-KRACH thread.::whistle::

Dammit, Jim.  Beat me to it.  ::whistle::
Title: Re: polls 2009-11-09
Post by: dietlbomb on November 11, 2009, 12:11:24 AM
Quote from: Jim Hyla
Quote from: jtwcornell91Also, seeding tournament brackets in November is idiotic.
But so is Browser-busting proto-KRACH thread.::whistle::

But I love those mouthwatering bubbles.
Title: Re: polls 2009-11-09
Post by: Trotsky on November 11, 2009, 05:17:44 AM
Quote from: Jim Hyla
Quote from: jtwcornell91Also, seeding tournament brackets in November is idiotic.
But so is Browser-busting proto-KRACH thread.::whistle::
That's satire, wait, right?
Title: Re: polls 2009-11-09
Post by: jtwcornell91 on November 11, 2009, 07:36:00 AM
Quote from: Jim Hyla
Quote from: jtwcornell91Also, seeding tournament brackets in November is idiotic.
But so is Browser-busting proto-KRACH thread.::whistle::
:`-(
Title: Re: polls 2009-11-09
Post by: KenP on November 11, 2009, 09:55:39 AM
There's a certain elegance and beauty to watching the field coalesce into a single"logical" entity.  I feel like I'm watching the early seconds after the Big Bang.  Each bubble that combines with the larger one is like watching the formation of the first proton or the first hydrogen atom.
Title: Re: polls 2009-11-09
Post by: Larry72 on November 11, 2009, 08:07:46 PM
Quote from: KenPThere's a certain elegance and beauty to watching the field coalesce into a single"logical" entity.  I feel like I'm watching the early seconds after the Big Bang.  Each bubble that combines with the larger one is like watching the formation of the first proton or the first hydrogen atom.

All that from "Proto KRACH"!  Now that is "deep"!!!

Larry '72
Title: Re: polls 2009-11-09
Post by: David Harding on November 11, 2009, 10:01:17 PM
Quote from: Jim Hyla
Quote from: jtwcornell91Also, seeding tournament brackets in November is idiotic.
But so is Browser-busting proto-KRACH thread.::whistle::
But it's OUR Browser-busting proto-KRACH thread. :-D
Title: Re: polls 2009-11-09
Post by: Trotsky on November 12, 2009, 09:47:30 AM
Quote from: KenPEach bubble that combines with the larger one is like watching the formation of the first proton or the first hydrogen atom.

In Harvard's case, Failium.
Title: Re: polls 2009-11-09
Post by: Jeff Hopkins '82 on November 12, 2009, 12:55:49 PM
Quote from: Trotsky
Quote from: KenPEach bubble that combines with the larger one is like watching the formation of the first proton or the first hydrogen atom.

In Harvard's case, Failium.

"There may be many others but they haven't been discaaaaahhhhvered"
Title: Re: polls 2009-11-09
Post by: imafrshmn on November 12, 2009, 12:59:19 PM
Quote from: Jeff Hopkins '82
Quote from: Trotsky
Quote from: KenPEach bubble that combines with the larger one is like watching the formation of the first proton or the first hydrogen atom.

In Harvard's case, Failium.

"There may be many others but they haven't been discaaaaahhhhvered"

Oh my god, I get the joke.  Seeing that music video was the funniest moment in all of high school chemistry class!  ELF rocks ::rock::
Title: Re: polls 2009-11-09
Post by: Jeff Hopkins '82 on November 13, 2009, 08:20:18 AM
Quote from: imafrshmn
Quote from: Jeff Hopkins '82
Quote from: Trotsky
Quote from: KenPEach bubble that combines with the larger one is like watching the formation of the first proton or the first hydrogen atom.

In Harvard's case, Failium.

"There may be many others but they haven't been discaaaaahhhhvered"

Oh my god, I get the joke.  Seeing that music video was the funniest moment in all of high school chemistry class!  ELF rocks ::rock::

One of my ChemE profs knew the whole song.
Title: Re: polls 2009-11-09
Post by: Rita on November 13, 2009, 08:35:45 AM
Quote from: Jeff Hopkins '82
Quote from: imafrshmn
Quote from: Jeff Hopkins '82
Quote from: Trotsky
Quote from: KenPEach bubble that combines with the larger one is like watching the formation of the first proton or the first hydrogen atom.

In Harvard's case, Failium.

"There may be many others but they haven't been discaaaaahhhhvered"

Oh my god, I get the joke.  Seeing that music video was the funniest moment in all of high school chemistry class!  ELF rocks ::rock::

One of my ChemE profs knew the whole song.

Link to videos of the Elements Song (http://www.edu-cyberpg.com/IEC/elementsong.html)
Title: Re: polls 2009-11-09
Post by: ugarte on November 13, 2009, 08:57:49 AM
Quote from: Rita
Quote from: Jeff Hopkins '82
Quote from: imafrshmn
Quote from: Jeff Hopkins '82
Quote from: Trotsky
Quote from: KenPEach bubble that combines with the larger one is like watching the formation of the first proton or the first hydrogen atom.

In Harvard's case, Failium.

"There may be many others but they haven't been discaaaaahhhhvered"

Oh my god, I get the joke.  Seeing that music video was the funniest moment in all of high school chemistry class!  ELF rocks ::rock::

One of my ChemE profs knew the whole song.

Link to videos of the Elements Song (http://www.edu-cyberpg.com/IEC/elementsong.html)

Animated (http://www.privatehand.com/flash/elements.html)
Title: Re: polls 2009-11-09
Post by: Josh '99 on November 13, 2009, 09:08:29 AM
Was that song on an episode of Mr. Belvedere at one point?