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Title: Cornell 5 - 1 Dartmouth; Final
Post by: imafrshmn on November 06, 2009, 06:38:33 PM
Cornell's conference and Ivy League opener against Dartmouth should up the intensity another notch.

The Ithaca Journal has a live blog (http://www.theithacajournal.com/article/20091106/NEWS01/91106025/College+hockey+live+blog++Dartmouth+at+Cornell) again for the game tonight.

In a lineup change, Braden Birch will be in tonight for Keir Ross.  Forwards lines stay the same from last game.

CU Lines, from Live Stats:
Greening - Gallagher - J. Devin
Miller - R. Nash - Kennedy
Esposito - Roeszler - Jillson
Scali - Collins - Axell

B. Nash - Whitney
D'Agostino - Krueger
Birch - M. Devin

Scrivens

ECAC stalwarts Tim Kotyra and Dan Murphy are our referees tonight.

Shots on goal
_____1__2__3__T
Cor_12_14__8_34
Dar__7__5_10_22

Scoring
1 02:13 Cor PP Gallagher (Greening, B. Nash)
2 08:25 Cor PP Greening (R. Nash, Birch)
3 03:36 Cor PP Gallagher (B. Nash, Whitney)
3 04:16 Cor Esposito (Roeszler, D'Agostino)
3 05:21 Dar PP Boldt (Owsiak, Estoclet)
3 14:53 Cor PP B. Nash (R. Nash, Greening)
Title: Re: Cornell - Dartmouth; pregame
Post by: Trotsky on November 06, 2009, 07:01:33 PM
Dartmouth is a thorn (http://www.tbrw.info/weekly_Updates/cornell_H2H_by_Team.html).
Title: Re: Cornell 1-0 Dartmouth; 1st period
Post by: sah67 on November 06, 2009, 07:07:12 PM
Gallagher PPG!  Nice-looking powerplay.
Title: Re: Cornell 0-0 Dartmouth; 1st period
Post by: tretiak on November 06, 2009, 07:07:28 PM
Gallagher on the PP! From Greening and B. Nash.
Title: Re: Cornell 1-0 Dartmouth; 1st period
Post by: billhoward on November 06, 2009, 07:07:28 PM
Was about to wonder how long till we got a PPG. Gallagher answers the Q. That makes us what 3 x 9 for the year. Is that more pPGs than all last yet yet?
Title: Re: Cornell 1-0 Dartmouth; 1st period
Post by: Trotsky on November 06, 2009, 07:15:11 PM
Redcast freezes
Title: Re: Cornell 1-0 Dartmouth; 1st period
Post by: billhoward on November 06, 2009, 07:17:43 PM
It's not just you.
Title: Re: Cornell 1-0 Dartmouth; 1st period
Post by: Trotsky on November 06, 2009, 07:19:02 PM
Reload worked immediately for me.
Title: Re: Cornell 1-0 Dartmouth; 1st period
Post by: Lauren '06 on November 06, 2009, 07:19:12 PM
No freeze for me.
Title: Re: Cornell 1-0 Dartmouth; 1st period
Post by: Trotsky on November 06, 2009, 07:22:08 PM
2nd pp unit not as sharp.
Title: Re: Cornell 1-0 Dartmouth; 1st period
Post by: DisplacedCornellian on November 06, 2009, 07:32:59 PM
Pretty good try by Nash as he was being hauled down...
Title: Re: Cornell 1-0 Dartmouth; 1st period
Post by: billhoward on November 06, 2009, 07:33:05 PM
Finally came back in time to see Nash's SOG from his knees.
Title: Re: Cornell 1-0 Dartmouth; End of 1st
Post by: Oat on November 06, 2009, 07:33:52 PM
Dartmouth freshmen are terrible. We are going to enjoy kicking their asses in the next few years.
Title: Re: Cornell 1-0 Dartmouth; 1st period
Post by: Tom14850 on November 06, 2009, 07:35:20 PM
I can't believe that wasn't a penalty.
Title: Re: Cornell 1-0 Dartmouth; End of 1st
Post by: Roy 82 on November 06, 2009, 07:39:40 PM
Quote from: OatDartmouth freshmen are terrible. We are going to enjoy kicking their asses in the next few years.

Beg forgiveness from the woofing gods before it is too late!::panic::
Title: Re: Cornell 1-0 Dartmouth; 1st intermission
Post by: DisplacedCornellian on November 06, 2009, 07:54:55 PM
Dangerous hit.  later, jackass.
Title: Re: Cornell 1-0 Dartmouth; 2nd period
Post by: imafrshmn on November 06, 2009, 07:55:00 PM
Stephens for Dartmouth is sent off for a game misconduct to the Lynah goon serenade.  5 min major.
Title: Re: Cornell 1-0 Dartmouth; 2nd period
Post by: sah67 on November 06, 2009, 07:55:12 PM
5 min major and a game misconduct on Stephens for HFB.
Title: Re: Cornell 1-0 Dartmouth; 2nd period
Post by: billhoward on November 06, 2009, 07:57:02 PM
Even with tinny audio, you could hear quite clearly, "See you, goon," as Even Stephens is escorted to the locker room. Two PPGs would put the game away. Will we get one? [edit add:] OK, 1 goal is workable.
Title: Re: Cornell 1-0 Dartmouth; 1st period
Post by: tretiak on November 06, 2009, 07:58:37 PM
awful play by m. devin to allow that break-away
Title: Re: Cornell 1-0 Dartmouth; 1st intermission
Post by: imafrshmn on November 06, 2009, 08:00:20 PM
Greening!!!!
Title: Re: Cornell 1-0 Dartmouth; 2nd period
Post by: Jordan 04 on November 06, 2009, 08:00:30 PM
Quote from: billhowardEven with tinny audio, you could hear quite clearly, "See you, goon," as Even Stephens is escorted to the locker room. Two PPGs would put the game away. Will we get one?

Yes
Title: Re: Cornell 1-0 Dartmouth; 2nd period
Post by: DisplacedCornellian on November 06, 2009, 08:00:35 PM
Greening!  PPG!
Title: Re: Cornell 2-0 Dartmouth; 2nd period
Post by: sah67 on November 06, 2009, 08:00:37 PM
Just as I was about to ask when the last time was that we scored on a 5-min PP, Greening cashes in!
Title: Re: Cornell 2-0 Dartmouth; 2nd period
Post by: Oat on November 06, 2009, 08:00:42 PM
Greening!
Title: Re: Cornell 1-0 Dartmouth; 2nd period
Post by: billhoward on November 06, 2009, 08:04:58 PM
Game not half over and the Big Green have a game misconduct and a 10 minute misconduct. They must be getting ready for winter carnival.

And now Jillson goes down from a hard hit and a stretcher comes out.
Title: Re: Cornell 1-0 Dartmouth; 2nd period
Post by: tretiak on November 06, 2009, 08:07:23 PM
jillson got killed on that play
Title: Re: Cornell 2-0 Dartmouth; 2nd period
Post by: sah67 on November 06, 2009, 08:07:31 PM
Jillson down on the ice after a bad hit.  Looked like he was unconscious at first, but it's reassuring to see him moving now.
Title: Re: Cornell 2-0 Dartmouth; 2nd period
Post by: Oat on November 06, 2009, 08:08:01 PM
was hit a dirty hit? or was it a hard but clean hit?
Title: Re: Cornell 2-0 Dartmouth; 2nd period
Post by: Jordan 04 on November 06, 2009, 08:08:26 PM
Bob Gaudet's team in mid-season form.
Title: Re: Cornell 1-0 Dartmouth; 2nd period
Post by: nyc94 on November 06, 2009, 08:08:28 PM
Quote from: billhowardGame not half over and the Big Green have a game misconduct and a 10 minute misconduct. They must be getting ready for winter carnival.

Nice.  ::drunk::
Title: Re: Cornell 2-0 Dartmouth; 2nd period
Post by: Jordan 04 on November 06, 2009, 08:09:58 PM
Quote from: Oatwas hit a dirty hit? or was it a hard but clean hit?

Looks fairly clean on the replay.  Maybe a little high.
Title: Re: Cornell 2-0 Dartmouth; 2nd period
Post by: imafrshmn on November 06, 2009, 08:10:21 PM
The replay seems to show that the hit was intentional.  An elbow to the head is how it appears.
Title: Re: Cornell 2-0 Dartmouth; 2nd period
Post by: tretiak on November 06, 2009, 08:10:44 PM
Quote from: was hit a dirty hit? or was it a hard but clean hit?

based on the replay: it was open ice, and the dartmouth player is a lot bigger than jillson. the radio guy called it an elbow, but i disagree. clean, hard hit. you have to keep your head up
Title: Re: Cornell 2-0 Dartmouth; 2nd period
Post by: Lauren '06 on November 06, 2009, 08:10:46 PM
Clean but still horrifying to see how he went down.  He practically pinwheeled.
Title: Re: Cornell 2-0 Dartmouth; 2nd period
Post by: sah67 on November 06, 2009, 08:10:56 PM
Matching 10-minute misconducts on Goggin and Scali
Title: Re: Cornell 2-0 Dartmouth; 2nd period
Post by: DisplacedCornellian on November 06, 2009, 08:11:26 PM
Was a high hit, but looked to me like he got him with the shoulder.  The elbow came up, but it looked like it came up after the hit.
Title: Re: Cornell 2-0 Dartmouth; 2nd period
Post by: sah67 on November 06, 2009, 08:12:51 PM
After a "throw your clipboard" chant for Gaudet, Jason: "I guess his reputation precedes him a bit."
Title: Re: Cornell 2-0 Dartmouth; 2nd period
Post by: imafrshmn on November 06, 2009, 08:13:04 PM
This game is getting chippy in classic Cornell vs. Dartmouth fashion.
Title: Re: Cornell 2-0 Dartmouth; 2nd period
Post by: billhoward on November 06, 2009, 08:13:53 PM
Referees calling a zero tolerance game now. Makes sense.

edit add: patrick Kennedy going off without a matching Darmouth call. Holding. Maybe they're calling too many. And one for Riley Nash. Slash.
Title: Re: Cornell 2-0 Dartmouth; 2nd period
Post by: sah67 on November 06, 2009, 08:14:59 PM
P. Kennedy and R. Nash sent to the box at the same time for minors.
Title: Re: Cornell 2-0 Dartmouth; 2nd period
Post by: Jordan 04 on November 06, 2009, 08:15:30 PM
Ok, this is getting ridiculous. Would be a sweet time for a shorty
Title: Re: Cornell 2-0 Dartmouth; 2nd period
Post by: tretiak on November 06, 2009, 08:16:10 PM
5x3 against for two whole minutes. huge kill coming up, need to get back under control and escape with the lead here
Title: Re: Cornell 2-0 Dartmouth; 2nd period
Post by: Jordan 04 on November 06, 2009, 08:18:51 PM
Krueger hurt on that blocked shot.
Title: Re: Cornell 2-0 Dartmouth; 2nd period
Post by: sah67 on November 06, 2009, 08:20:10 PM
"His dad and coach, Bob Gaudet, is very upset" -- if only someone had a copy of Will's famous Gaudet photo.
Title: Re: Cornell 2-0 Dartmouth; 2nd period
Post by: billhoward on November 06, 2009, 08:20:23 PM
Gaudette junior also hurt on that series (hand?) and dad calls timeout.
Title: Re: Cornell 2-0 Dartmouth; 2nd period
Post by: Jordan 04 on November 06, 2009, 08:22:13 PM
All PP killed off!
Title: Re: Cornell 2-0 Dartmouth; 2nd period
Post by: billhoward on November 06, 2009, 08:22:33 PM
Is our PK really good, or is Dartmouth just bad? Tomorrow may be a better game to tell.
Title: Re: Cornell 2-0 Dartmouth; 2nd period
Post by: Jeff Hopkins '82 on November 06, 2009, 08:25:42 PM
Another Dartmouth power play!
Title: Re: Cornell 2-0 Dartmouth; 2nd period
Post by: Jeff Hopkins '82 on November 06, 2009, 08:27:39 PM
Scrivens with a mask save!
Title: Re: Cornell 2-0 Dartmouth; 2nd period
Post by: Jeff Hopkins '82 on November 06, 2009, 08:29:10 PM
End of 2.

And nobody left in the box  ::banana::
Title: Re: Cornell 2-0 Dartmouth; 2nd intermission stats
Post by: billhoward on November 06, 2009, 08:31:57 PM
Live Stats say Cornell outshootng D 26-12. Kind of wish it was 4-0 with one more PPG and a SHG. How many shorthanded goals did we have last year?
Title: Re: Cornell 2-0 Dartmouth; 2nd intermission
Post by: Tom14850 on November 06, 2009, 08:33:22 PM
The dominance of this team really reminds me of 02-03. If they can get that last finishing touch this will be a fun season to watch.
Title: Re: Cornell 2-0 Dartmouth; 2nd intermission stats
Post by: sah67 on November 06, 2009, 08:44:48 PM
Quote from: billhowardHow many shorthanded goals did we have last year?

I only remember two: M. Kennedy at NoDak, and Riley against SCSU in Florida.
Title: Re: Cornell 2-0 Dartmouth; 2nd period
Post by: cbuckser on November 06, 2009, 08:44:49 PM
Quote from: tretiak
Quote from: was hit a dirty hit? or was it a hard but clean hit?

based on the replay: it was open ice, and the dartmouth player is a lot bigger than jillson. the radio guy called it an elbow, but i disagree. clean, hard hit. you have to keep your head up
In NCAA hockey, like the OHL, a check to the head is a contact-to-the-head roughing penalty.  It looked to me like Estoclet hit Jillson's head as well as his upper chest or shoulder.  It would have been a clean hit in the NHL, but a penalty should have been called tonight.
Title: Re: Cornell 2-0 Dartmouth; 2nd intermission
Post by: billhoward on November 06, 2009, 08:45:22 PM
Quote from: Tom14850The dominance of this team really reminds me of 02-03. If they can get that last finishing touch this will be a fun season to watch.
Dominance today, so far. Last week against Niagara not so much where it mattered.
Title: Re: Cornell 2-0 Dartmouth; 3rd period
Post by: sah67 on November 06, 2009, 08:46:10 PM
And back into the box we go.
Title: Re: Cornell 2-0 Dartmouth; 3rd period
Post by: billhoward on November 06, 2009, 08:47:22 PM
Quote from: sah67And back into the box we go.
Even a blind squirrel finds some nuts. Got to be careful how many PPs we allow.
Title: Re: Cornell 2-0 Dartmouth; 3rd period
Post by: sah67 on November 06, 2009, 08:50:02 PM
Gallagher again on the PP!  3 PPGs!
Title: Re: Cornell 3-0 Dartmouth; 3rd period
Post by: billhoward on November 06, 2009, 08:50:22 PM
Hot damn! 2, er 3, PPGs in one game. Gallagher!
Title: Re: Cornell 4-0 Dartmouth; 3rd period
Post by: sah67 on November 06, 2009, 08:51:53 PM
And now Esposito's first at Cornell!  Pour it on!
Title: Re: Cornell 4-0 Dartmouth; 3rd period
Post by: billhoward on November 06, 2009, 08:52:06 PM
With a name like Esposito, how can you not be a scorer?
Title: Re: Cornell 4-1 Dartmouth; 3rd period
Post by: sah67 on November 06, 2009, 08:54:20 PM
Dartmouth finally solves Scrivens, albeit on a funky deflection.

4-1.
Title: Re: Cornell 4-1 Dartmouth; 3rd period
Post by: imafrshmn on November 06, 2009, 08:57:24 PM
Great 1x1 save there by Scrivens
Title: Re: Cornell 4-1 Dartmouth; 3rd period
Post by: sah67 on November 06, 2009, 08:59:42 PM
Riley just misses the net on a 3-on-1 shorthanded rush.
Title: Re: Cornell 2-0 Dartmouth; 2nd intermission
Post by: Tom14850 on November 06, 2009, 09:05:29 PM
Very true
Title: Re: Cornell 4-1 Dartmouth; 3rd period
Post by: sah67 on November 06, 2009, 09:08:30 PM
B. Nash!  4/7 on the powerplay tonight!
Title: Re: Cornell 4-1 Dartmouth; 3rd period
Post by: imafrshmn on November 06, 2009, 09:08:35 PM
Great backdoor play on the PP Riley to Brendon!
Title: Re: Cornell 4-1 Dartmouth; 3rd period
Post by: sah67 on November 06, 2009, 09:09:21 PM
When was the last time we scored three goals in the third period?
Title: Re: Cornell 4-1 Dartmouth; 3rd period
Post by: billhoward on November 06, 2009, 09:09:36 PM
Quote from: imafrshmnGreat backdoor play on the PP Riley to Brendon!
Denying Gallagher his hat trick. Boy did he try hard form the slot 30 seconds earlier.
Title: Re: Cornell 5-1 Dartmouth; 3rd period
Post by: Scersk '97 on November 06, 2009, 09:11:29 PM
What a pretty feed:  the kind of goal that always frustrates me when another team scores one like it against us!
Title: Re: Cornell 2-0 Dartmouth; 2nd period
Post by: tretiak on November 06, 2009, 09:12:20 PM
Per the rulebook:
 Penalty - Minor or major or disqualification at the discretion of the referee. Contact to the head shall be assessed in front of the infraction (ie: contact to the head - elbow).

The Dartmouth player didn't avoid the big hit, but everything else was clean. That was not a roughing penalty. Also, remember that Jillson is small so his head was on the level with the Dartmouth player's shoulder. On a bang-bang play like that, I have no problem with a non-call. It looked clean. If I'm on the Cornell bench, I'm pissed that he went for the KO on a defenseless player. By referencing the OHL, I'm assuming you're talking about the player who was suspended for the year for the contact to the head - boarding hit?
Title: Re: Cornell 5-1 Dartmouth; 3rd period
Post by: billhoward on November 06, 2009, 09:13:28 PM
Please, no game DQs or injuries in last 2 minutes
Title: Re: Cornell 5-1 Dartmouth; 3rd period
Post by: Chris 02 on November 06, 2009, 09:16:08 PM
Anybody lose the chat?
Title: Re: Cornell 5-1 Dartmouth; Final
Post by: imafrshmn on November 06, 2009, 09:17:07 PM
Yale, Princeton, and Harvard all lost tonight.... wow.
Title: Re: Cornell 5-1 Dartmouth; Final
Post by: judy on November 06, 2009, 09:28:08 PM
Quote from: imafrshmnYale, Princeton, and Harvard all lost tonight.... wow.

so we're the only Ivy that won
Title: Re: Cornell 5-1 Dartmouth; Final
Post by: Jeff Hopkins '82 on November 06, 2009, 09:30:07 PM
Quote from: judy
Quote from: imafrshmnYale, Princeton, and Harvard all lost tonight.... wow.

so we're the only Ivy that won

Brown was leading Union...
Title: Re: Cornell 4-0 Dartmouth; 3rd period
Post by: Rita on November 06, 2009, 09:42:11 PM
Quote from: billhowardWith a name like Esposito, how can you not be a scorer?

So do we borrow from the 70's Boston slogan "Jesus Saves, Esposito scores on the Rebound"?

And I'm ok with replacing Jesus with our goalie of the night. **]
Title: Re: Cornell 5-1 Dartmouth; Final
Post by: judy on November 06, 2009, 10:07:18 PM
Quote from: Jeff Hopkins '82
Quote from: judy
Quote from: imafrshmnYale, Princeton, and Harvard all lost tonight.... wow.

so we're the only Ivy that won

Brown was leading Union...

I totally forgot about them.
Title: Re: Cornell 2-0 Dartmouth; 2nd period
Post by: ithacat on November 06, 2009, 10:35:13 PM
Quote from: tretiakPer the rulebook:
 Penalty - Minor or major or disqualification at the discretion of the referee. Contact to the head shall be assessed in front of the infraction (ie: contact to the head - elbow).

The Dartmouth player didn't avoid the big hit, but everything else was clean. That was not a roughing penalty. Also, remember that Jillson is small so his head was on the level with the Dartmouth player's shoulder. On a bang-bang play like that, I have no problem with a non-call. It looked clean. If I'm on the Cornell bench, I'm pissed that he went for the KO on a defenseless player. By referencing the OHL, I'm assuming you're talking about the player who was suspended for the year for the contact to the head - boarding hit?

C'mon...contact to the head is contact to the head. Good grief.
Title: Re: Cornell 2-0 Dartmouth; 2nd period
Post by: cbuckser on November 06, 2009, 11:16:35 PM
Quote from: ithacat
Quote from: tretiakPer the rulebook:
 Penalty - Minor or major or disqualification at the discretion of the referee. Contact to the head shall be assessed in front of the infraction (ie: contact to the head - elbow).

The Dartmouth player didn't avoid the big hit, but everything else was clean. That was not a roughing penalty. Also, remember that Jillson is small so his head was on the level with the Dartmouth player's shoulder. On a bang-bang play like that, I have no problem with a non-call. It looked clean. If I'm on the Cornell bench, I'm pissed that he went for the KO on a defenseless player. By referencing the OHL, I'm assuming you're talking about the player who was suspended for the year for the contact to the head - boarding hit?

C'mon...contact to the head is contact to the head. Good grief.

The rule is straightforward:  "A player shall not make contact with an opposing player's head or neck area in any manner."

The referee has discretion regarding the severity of the penalty.  Because Estoclet did not appear to be head-hunting, I don't think he should have received a DQ.  But, contact to the head plus shoulder or chest is still contact to the head.
Title: Re: Cornell 5 - 1 Dartmouth; Final
Post by: Josh '99 on November 07, 2009, 12:26:54 AM
Well, I find it just shocking that a game against a Bob Gaudet team had a ton of penalties.
Title: Re: Cornell 5 - 1 Dartmouth; Final
Post by: sah67 on November 07, 2009, 01:22:00 AM
Quote from: Josh '99Well, I find it just shocking that a game against a Bob Gaudet team had a ton of penalties.

Bob is shocked as well. (http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2209/2318158448_abbd36e620.jpg)

(credit to MHA for the photo)
Title: Penalties question
Post by: lhayes on November 07, 2009, 08:00:42 AM
Can anyone explain what happened with the Kennedy and R Nash penalties at 12:32 of the 2nd period?  At 12:06, Gallagher and Bourgea had gone off with matching minors, leaving us at 4 a side.  At 12:32, Kennedy and Nash went off for holding and slashing, respectively.  Since we can't have fewer than 3 players (and the scoreboard only has room for 2 penalties a side), they only put Kennedy's penalty on the scoreboard.  I assumed that meant that R Nash's penalty time wouldn't start til after Gallagher got out, and we'd then be 5 on 3 until Kennedy got sprung.  But we were never 5 on 3, Riley's penalty was never on the scoreboard, and Riley was out of the box before Kennedy.  What was up?  Thanks.
Title: Re: Cornell 5-1 Dartmouth; Final
Post by: Trotsky on November 07, 2009, 08:25:27 AM
Quote from: judy
Quote from: Jeff Hopkins '82
Quote from: judy
Quote from: imafrshmnYale, Princeton, and Harvard all lost tonight.... wow.

so we're the only Ivy that won

Brown was leading Union...

I totally forgot about them.

They tied anyway.  We're the only Ivy that won.
Title: Re: Cornell 4-1 Dartmouth; 3rd period
Post by: Trotsky on November 07, 2009, 08:27:08 AM
Quote from: sah67When was the last time we scored three goals in the third period?

1/24/2009 Brown, 19 games ago.
Title: Re: Cornell 5 - 1 Dartmouth; Final
Post by: redice on November 07, 2009, 09:05:51 AM
Quote from: sah67Bob is shocked as well. (http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2209/2318158448_abbd36e620.jpg)

(credit to MHA for the photo)

Should we start a caption discussion for that picture.

I vote for "Bob needs a hug!!"

Not original....   But, it is fitting
Title: Re: Penalties question
Post by: Dpperk29 on November 07, 2009, 09:13:08 AM
Quote from: lhayesCan anyone explain what happened with the Kennedy and R Nash penalties at 12:32 of the 2nd period?  At 12:06, Gallagher and Bourgea had gone off with matching minors, leaving us at 4 a side.  At 12:32, Kennedy and Nash went off for holding and slashing, respectively.  Since we can't have fewer than 3 players (and the scoreboard only has room for 2 penalties a side), they only put Kennedy's penalty on the scoreboard.  I assumed that meant that R Nash's penalty time wouldn't start til after Gallagher got out, and we'd then be 5 on 3 until Kennedy got sprung.  But we were never 5 on 3, Riley's penalty was never on the scoreboard, and Riley was out of the box before Kennedy.  What was up?  Thanks.

There was ~35 seconds of 5 x 3 after the matching minors expired and before the Nash penalty expired. Nash's penalty went on the scoreboard as soon as the penalties were called and Kennedy's penalty appeared on the board (and started) as soon as Gallagher's ended.

Really, cornell got lucky in that case that the NCAA likes to play 4 x 4 hockey instead of 5 x 5 with matching minors. the 4 x 4 prevented Cornell from having to play down 2 men for 2 minutes instead of 35 seconds.
Title: Re: Penalties question
Post by: jkahn on November 07, 2009, 09:19:31 AM
Quote from: lhayesCan anyone explain what happened with the Kennedy and R Nash penalties at 12:32 of the 2nd period?  At 12:06, Gallagher and Bourgea had gone off with matching minors, leaving us at 4 a side.  At 12:32, Kennedy and Nash went off for holding and slashing, respectively.  Since we can't have fewer than 3 players (and the scoreboard only has room for 2 penalties a side), they only put Kennedy's penalty on the scoreboard.  I assumed that meant that R Nash's penalty time wouldn't start til after Gallagher got out, and we'd then be 5 on 3 until Kennedy got sprung.  But we were never 5 on 3, Riley's penalty was never on the scoreboard, and Riley was out of the box before Kennedy.  What was up?  Thanks.
I was watching on Redcast, but here's what I think I saw which is also what should've happened:
First, of the two, they ran Riley's penalty before Kennedy. So from 12:32 to 14:06 it's 4 vs. 3.  Bourgea comes out but since Kennedy's penalty starts as Gallagher's ends, Gallagher can't come out as it's 5 vs. 3.  That lasts only 26 seconds and when Riley's penalty ends we get a man back and it's 5 vs. 4 for another 1:34.
It seemed to me it was 5 vs. 3 for a short time, but if that didn't happen,then someone blew it and let a Cornell player out early.
Title: Re: Penalties question
Post by: Jim Hyla on November 07, 2009, 11:39:54 AM
Quote from: jkahn
Quote from: lhayesCan anyone explain what happened with the Kennedy and R Nash penalties at 12:32 of the 2nd period?  At 12:06, Gallagher and Bourgea had gone off with matching minors, leaving us at 4 a side.  At 12:32, Kennedy and Nash went off for holding and slashing, respectively.  Since we can't have fewer than 3 players (and the scoreboard only has room for 2 penalties a side), they only put Kennedy's penalty on the scoreboard.  I assumed that meant that R Nash's penalty time wouldn't start til after Gallagher got out, and we'd then be 5 on 3 until Kennedy got sprung.  But we were never 5 on 3, Riley's penalty was never on the scoreboard, and Riley was out of the box before Kennedy.  What was up?  Thanks.
I was watching on Redcast, but here's what I think I saw which is also what should've happened:
First, of the two, they ran Riley's penalty before Kennedy. So from 12:32 to 14:06 it's 4 vs. 3.  Bourgea comes out but since Kennedy's penalty starts as Gallagher's ends, Gallagher can't come out as it's 5 vs. 3.  That lasts only 26 seconds and when Riley's penalty ends we get a man back and it's 5 vs. 4 for another 1:34.
It seemed to me it was 5 vs. 3 for a short time, but if that didn't happen,then someone blew it and let a Cornell player out early.
And it seemed to me that we got to pick which man was first out. After the guys were in the box, Greening was talking to the officials and it looked like he asked if he could go to the penalty box. He did and I'm assuming he told them Riley would be first out . I'm remembering that Kennedy's penalty was put on the board first as I was surprised when Riley came out and they changed the number on the board back to Kennedy. I was assuming that since Kennedy was called first he would serve first. I guess we'll have to wait and hear what happened from the team.
Title: Re: Penalties question
Post by: redice on November 07, 2009, 03:44:20 PM
Quote from: Jim HylaI'm remembering that Kennedy's penalty was put on the board first as I was surprised when Riley came out and they changed the number on the board back to Kennedy.

At one point, the scoreboard showed two #14's in the penalty box for Cornell......
Title: Re: Penalties question
Post by: Al DeFlorio on November 07, 2009, 04:09:55 PM
Quote from: redice
Quote from: Jim HylaI'm remembering that Kennedy's penalty was put on the board first as I was surprised when Riley came out and they changed the number on the board back to Kennedy.

At one point, the scoreboard showed two #14's in the penalty box for Cornell......
Two minutes on Hyla?::banana::
Title: Re: Penalties question
Post by: redice on November 07, 2009, 04:28:29 PM
Quote from: Al DeFlorio
Quote from: redice
Quote from: Jim HylaI'm remembering that Kennedy's penalty was put on the board first as I was surprised when Riley came out and they changed the number on the board back to Kennedy.

At one point, the scoreboard showed two #14's in the penalty box for Cornell......
Two minutes on Hyla?::banana::

Or Lodboa..........::whistle::
Title: Re: Cornell 5 - 1 Dartmouth; Final
Post by: Robb on November 12, 2009, 02:49:53 AM
Just got my "weekly recap" email from Mike Schafer:
Quote from: SchaferOn Friday night, it didn't take us long to get on the scoreboard, as we capitalized on the first power play of the game.  Junior center Ryan Nash won a faceoff to senior left wing Colin Greening who tipped the puck to the weak side to a wide open senior forward Blake Gallagher who burried it in the net.

Just think how dangerous we'd be if Coach actually knew the players' names!!  ::nut::

Or maybe that's our secret weapon - we actually have a third "stealth Nash" out on the ice to help out in key situations...

(I'm guessing Schafer doesn't necessarily write, or even read, these email recaps. Just thought it was funny.)