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Title: Cornell 3 Northeastern 2 (Postgame thread)
Post by: Trotsky on March 28, 2009, 07:06:15 PM
Schafer's teams have now won 6 straight (http://www.tbrw.info/games/cornell_NCAA_Series.html) first round NCAA games.
Title: The Third Goal
Post by: marty on March 28, 2009, 07:20:19 PM
Check out Barlow on the bench. He is beat!  But somehow not beat on the ice:

GWG (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vsBkQUEcudw&fmt=18)
Title: Re: Cornell 3 Northeastern 2 (Postgame thread)
Post by: Beeeej on March 28, 2009, 07:20:29 PM
...the last three in a row, by coming back from 0-2 deficits to win 3-2.
Title: Re: Cornell 3 Northeastern 2 (Postgame thread)
Post by: Travis 02 on March 28, 2009, 07:22:46 PM
If I read that right, wouldn't that be 8 out of the last 8 first round games they have participated in, instead of 6?
Title: Re: Cornell 3 Northeastern 2 (Postgame thread)
Post by: Beeeej on March 28, 2009, 07:25:45 PM
[quote Travis 02]If I read that right, wouldn't that be 8 out of the last 8 first round games they have participated in, instead of 6?[/quote]

No; we lost in the first round in 1996 to Lake Superior State, and in 1991 to Michigan.  The white background means it's a round we won; the grey means we lost.
Title: Re: Cornell 3 Northeastern 2 (Postgame thread)
Post by: Travis 02 on March 28, 2009, 07:27:31 PM
Oh, pardon me for that.  It's obviously still an impressive run.
Title: Re: The Third Goal
Post by: min on March 28, 2009, 07:30:57 PM
[quote marty]Check out Barlow on the bench. He is beat!  But somehow not beat on the ice:

GWG (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vsBkQUEcudw&fmt=18)[/quote]

Thank you so much, marty!
Title: Re: Cornell 3 Northeastern 2 (Postgame thread)
Post by: Cactus12 on March 28, 2009, 07:35:29 PM
This is the rare situation where I would say northeastern was a bit too aggressive on the forecheck in the first two periods. Not in the sense of giving up the odd man rush, but by the end of the game, NU was sitting back, and we were able to make some nice plays and draw some penalties. Exciting win. Hopefully tomorrow will be fun.
Title: Re: Cornell 3 Northeastern 2 (Postgame thread)
Post by: Al DeFlorio on March 28, 2009, 07:36:08 PM
Barlow, R. Nash, and Gallagher skating on a line for the game-winner.
Title: Re: Cornell 3 Northeastern 2 (Postgame thread)
Post by: HeafDog on March 28, 2009, 07:38:00 PM
Evan Barlow is THE MAN!
Title: Re: Cornell 3 Northeastern 2 (Postgame thread)
Post by: jtwcornell91 on March 28, 2009, 07:43:19 PM
[quote Cactus12]This is the rare situation where I would say northeastern was a bit too aggressive on the forecheck in the first two periods. Not in the sense of giving up the odd man rush, but by the end of the game, NU was sitting back, and we were able to make some nice plays and draw some penalties. Exciting win. Hopefully tomorrow will be fun.[/quote]

Rope-a-dope FTW!
Title: Re: Cornell 3 Northeastern 2 (Postgame thread)
Post by: lynah80 on March 28, 2009, 07:46:47 PM
[quote Al DeFlorio]Barlow, R. Nash, and Gallagher skating on a line for the game-winner.[/quote]

Was that intentional or were they in the middle of a line change?

Gallagher played an amazing game.  Right place, right time.  I hope he isn't doing any serious harm to himself though.
Title: Re: Cornell 3 Northeastern 2 (Postgame thread)
Post by: ugarte on March 28, 2009, 07:47:34 PM
This was so amazing. I made li'l Sidney cry by letting out a yell when Barlow banged home the game winner.

It's funny. We won by a goal and the first Northeastern goal was a lucky bounce off of two Cornell defenders. And still I felt like Northeastern had the better of the play for most of the game. Cornell simply couldn't clear the zone when facing a mediocre offensive team for very long stretches throughout the game. Cornell's passing was sloppy and, at times, seemed random.

And yet... and yet... Gallagher scored a muckers goal, they converted on a power play chance at the end of the game to tie (questionable penalty call there, but I'll take it) and get a beautiful rush at the end to make sure that there is no OT and I can get Sid home in time for bed.

So sweet.
Title: Re: Cornell 3 Northeastern 2 (Postgame thread)
Post by: Trotsky on March 28, 2009, 07:51:44 PM
Another fun stat: Schafer has now led Cornell to more advances (http://www.tbrw.info/games/cornell_NCAA_Advances.html) in the NCAA than all of their other coaches put together.
Title: Re: Cornell 3 Northeastern 2 (Postgame thread)
Post by: abmarks on March 28, 2009, 07:55:58 PM
[quote Trotsky]Another fun stat: Schafer has now led Cornell to more advances (http://www.tbrw.info/games/cornell_NCAA_Advances.html) in the NCAA than all of their other coaches put together.[/quote]

Except he is trailing in one critical stat.  Someone is ahead of him for NCAA titles 2-0
Title: Re: Cornell 3 Northeastern 2 (Postgame thread)
Post by: cbuckser on March 28, 2009, 07:58:15 PM
[quote lynah80][quote Al DeFlorio]Barlow, R. Nash, and Gallagher skating on a line for the game-winner.[/quote]

Was that intentional or were they in the middle of a line change?[/quote]

That was the line that Mike Schafer sent out after a long tv timeout.  I was a little surprised not to see Colin Greening out there.
Title: Re: Cornell 3 Northeastern 2 (Postgame thread)
Post by: ugarte on March 28, 2009, 07:59:55 PM
[quote abmarks][quote Trotsky]Another fun stat: Schafer has now led Cornell to more advances (http://www.tbrw.info/games/cornell_NCAA_Advances.html) in the NCAA than all of their other coaches put together.[/quote]

Except he is trailing in one critical stat.  Someone is ahead of him for NCAA titles 2-0[/quote]
And the obvious caveat that advancing to the round of 8 means less than when getting to the NCAA's meant that you were in the round of 4.
Title: Re: Cornell 3 Northeastern 2 (Postgame thread)
Post by: Josh '99 on March 28, 2009, 08:01:20 PM
[quote ugarte][T]he first Northeastern goal was a lucky bounce off of two Cornell defenders.[/quote]Only fair, since the first Cornell goal was a lucky bounce off of two Cornell attackers.

(I watched it in slow motion a few times and I'm pretty sure Gallagher's shot hit Brendon's skate, then Greening's arm, before it hit net.)
Title: Re: Cornell 3 Northeastern 2 (Postgame thread)
Post by: reilly83 on March 28, 2009, 08:01:28 PM
Maybe we should fire him ::rolleyes:::-)
Title: Re: Cornell 3 Northeastern 2 (Postgame thread)
Post by: Cowboy on March 28, 2009, 08:01:30 PM
Who is the last ECAC school to win a game in the NCAA tournament? We must be dominating the ECAC in terms of NCAA wins the last 8 years or so.
Title: Re: Cornell 3 Northeastern 2 (Postgame thread)
Post by: ugarte on March 28, 2009, 08:04:00 PM
[quote Cowboy]Who is the last ECAC school to win a game in the NCAA tournament? We must be dominating the ECAC in terms of NCAA wins the last 8 years or so.[/quote]
Cornell. They won just a few minutes ago against Northeastern.

(Before that, Clarkson beat SCSU in 2008.)
Title: Re: Cornell 3 Northeastern 2 (Postgame thread)
Post by: Trotsky on March 28, 2009, 08:07:42 PM
[quote Cowboy]Who is the last ECAC school to win a game in the NCAA tournament? We must be dominating the ECAC in terms of NCAA wins the last 8 years or so.[/quote]

ECAC Results, by Year (http://www.tbrw.info/ecac_History/ecac_NCAA_Games.htm)

ECAC Results, Overall Record (http://www.tbrw.info/ecac_History/ecac_NCAA_Records_by_Team.htm)

ECAC Best Advance (http://www.tbrw.info/ecac_History/ecac_NCAA_Bargraph.html)

(Current members.  Yeah, I haven't subbed in Quinnipiac for Vermont, but it's only been 4 years...)
Title: Re: Cornell 3 Northeastern 2 (Postgame thread)
Post by: Jacob '06 on March 28, 2009, 08:24:35 PM
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Title: Re: Cornell 3 Northeastern 2 (Postgame thread)
Post by: Rosey on March 28, 2009, 08:28:05 PM
BTW, in case it hasn't been said lately: fuck Bob Norton.  He spent the entire time recapping the Cornell-Northeastern game talking about how great the Northeastern coach is.  I'm so sick of that windbag... yich.
Title: Re: Cornell 3 Northeastern 2 (Postgame thread)
Post by: Al DeFlorio on March 28, 2009, 08:31:22 PM
[quote Kyle Rose]BTW, in case it hasn't been said lately: fuck Bob Norton.  He spent the entire time recapping the Cornell-Northeastern game talking about how great the Northeastern coach is.  I'm so sick of that windbag... yich.[/quote]
Also keeps saying Cornell was beaten badly by Princeton in the ECAC championship.
Title: Re: Cornell 3 Northeastern 2 (Postgame thread)
Post by: abmarks on March 28, 2009, 08:32:56 PM
he coached at UNH what do yo uexpect.......
Title: Re: Cornell 3 Northeastern 2 (Postgame thread)
Post by: finchphil on March 28, 2009, 08:43:29 PM
I love Bob Norton.  Bob Norton is our best weapon.  Three years ago it was "Colorado College has too much firepower for Cornell."  This year it was "You have to like Northeastern's chances going into the third period."

It is exciting to see how much bigger and redder Bob Norton's nose is every year....how much fatter he is. He didn't even bother to comb what's left of his hair this year.

He said Cornell lost to Princeton in the ECAC finals at least TEN TIMES.  Let's see....they position him as an "assistant coach at UNH from 1970-77..." so just exactly what makes him qualified to provide commentary based on his professional positions over the past 32 years?  It's all about the booze....BOB.....

It's March, Bob Norton is back and we're going to the next round.  Life is good!
Title: Re: Cornell 3 Northeastern 2 (Postgame thread)
Post by: ansky629 on March 28, 2009, 10:09:30 PM
Haha...I was thinking the same thing.  This guy absolutely hates us and doesn't even know what happened in college hockey last week - it's a joke.  

By the way - does anybody know if there's a reason he hates us?  Or is it just that he really doesn't like our style of play?
Title: Re: Cornell 3 Northeastern 2 (Postgame thread)
Post by: Trotsky on March 28, 2009, 10:21:44 PM
[quote ansky629]By the way - does anybody know if there's a reason he hates us?  Or is it just that he really doesn't like our style of play?[/quote]

I don't think Norton hates us.  He's just an extreme New England homer.
Title: Re: Cornell 3 Northeastern 2 (Postgame thread)
Post by: Larry72 on March 28, 2009, 10:55:47 PM
He's definitely a New England and Hockey East homer.  But it is March.  ESPN gets him unpickled for a few weeks, then they stick him back in the tank till the following year!!!  ::crazy::
Title: Re: Cornell 3 Northeastern 2 (Postgame thread)
Post by: finchphil on March 28, 2009, 11:03:38 PM
I remember Bob Norton from his days on Little House on the Prairie

Bob Norton (http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_aze0tII0ctk/SHTmlV7YjdI/AAAAAAAAACI/WdF0Z6NC0Js/s320/Minnesota%2B2008%2B026.JPG)
Title: Re: YOUTUBE GOAL CLIPS
Post by: Oat on March 29, 2009, 04:58:55 AM
[quote marty]Check out Barlow on the bench. He is beat!  But somehow not beat on the ice:

GWG (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vsBkQUEcudw&fmt=18)[/quote]

Marty, Thank you so much!! Does anyone have any more clips of the other goals?
Title: Re: Cornell 3 Northeastern 2 (Postgame thread)
Post by: trainbow on March 29, 2009, 08:48:30 AM
Some observations from the box score:

Cornell won only 40% of the faceoffs.

On ice for all three CU goals:
Gallagher and B. Nash [and also Alex Tuckerman]
Davenport was on ice for the two NU goals.

Barlow had 7 of Cornell's 32 shots on goal, 6 in the third period alone.
No other player on either team had more than 3 (Kary had 3 for CU).
Title: Re: Cornell 3 Northeastern 2 (Postgame thread)
Post by: Jeff Hopkins '82 on March 29, 2009, 08:53:33 AM
[quote trainbow]Some observations from the box score:

Cornell won only 40% of the faceoffs.

[/quote]

I'm surprised it was that high.  There was one point when we were down 2-0 where everyone around us was saying "Just win a damn faceoff."
Title: Re: Cornell 3 Northeastern 2 (Postgame thread)
Post by: HockeyMan on March 29, 2009, 09:27:53 AM
Can someone who was at the arena yesterday give a sense of the place--the sight lines, acoustics, etc. Was the crowd bigger for the evening game?  Will BSU likely have a lot of fans there tonight?  Will they outnumber the faithful?
Title: Re: Cornell 3 Northeastern 2 (Postgame thread)
Post by: jkahn on March 29, 2009, 10:22:22 AM
[quote HockeyMan]Can someone who was at the arena yesterday give a sense of the place--the sight lines, acoustics, etc. Was the crowd bigger for the evening game?  Will BSU likely have a lot of fans there tonight?  Will they outnumber the faithful?[/quote]
I think it's a great venue to watch a game.  Excellent sight lines all around.  The Cornell section was on the side opposite the benches, so they were probably using a smaller hand-held camera when they showed us.  There's an "upper deck" where you get a great view too.  That's where the pep band was, and I sat up there in 1997.
There was a much bigger crowd for the second game.  Mostly Notre Dame but there are also a lot of Bemidji fans in town.  We will be outnumbered.
Title: Re: Cornell 3 Northeastern 2 (Postgame thread)
Post by: dbilmes on March 29, 2009, 10:43:34 AM
Here is the ranting of a BU fan in today's Boston Globe, commenting on the Northeastern-Cornell game story:

"I am a BU fan, but NU DID NOT lay an egg. The tough thing is Cornell is NOT a team anybody halfway decent should ever relinquish a two goal lead to, the way that Cornell plays, yet they scored two legit goals, although I woulda been upset with my defenseman taking that penalty with a one goal lead with less than five to go. That being said, the tying goal is a solid PP goal. THE ONE THAT HURTS IS THE UNCHARACTERISTIC FIVE HOLE GOAL that Thiessen stops 99 out of 100 times. "


You can read the story here:
http://www.boston.com/sports/colleges/mens_hockey/articles/2009/03/29/cornell_rallies_to_knock_out_nu/
Title: Re: Cornell 3 Northeastern 2 (Postgame thread)
Post by: Al DeFlorio on March 29, 2009, 10:48:05 AM
[quote dbilmes]Here is the ranting of a BU fan in today's Boston Globe, commenting on the Northeastern-Cornell game story:

"I am a BU fan, but NU DID NOT lay an egg. The tough thing is Cornell is NOT a team anybody halfway decent should ever relinquish a two goal lead to, the way that Cornell plays, yet they scored two legit goals, although I woulda been upset with my defenseman taking that penalty with a one goal lead with less than five to go. That being said, the tying goal is a solid PP goal. THE ONE THAT HURTS IS THE UNCHARACTERISTIC FIVE HOLE GOAL that Thiessen stops 99 out of 100 times. "


You can read the story here:
http://www.boston.com/sports/colleges/mens_hockey/articles/2009/03/29/cornell_rallies_to_knock_out_nu/[/quote]
Maybe Tim or Jim can get him a Valium?
Title: Re: Cornell 3 Northeastern 2 (Postgame thread)
Post by: DisplacedCornellian on March 29, 2009, 10:55:59 AM
[quote trainbow]Some observations from the box score:

Cornell won only 40% of the faceoffs.

[/quote]

Schafer's comments on that:

'When asked how they can improve their faceoff draws in Sunday's Midwest Regional final, Cornell head coach Mike Schafer didn't hesitate.

"It's really easy. We're not going to have to play against Joe Vitale. We heard he was good coming into the game. He was unbelievable. He must have been near 90 percent tonight and we have some good guys on faceoffs."'

http://www.uscho.com/news/college-hockey/id,17002/NotebookCornellNortheastern.html
Title: Re: Cornell 3 Northeastern 2 (Postgame thread)
Post by: Greenberg '97 on March 29, 2009, 10:58:36 AM
[quote ansky629]
By the way - does anybody know if there's a reason he hates us?  Or is it just that he really doesn't like our style of play?[/quote]

I believe it's because our bars close at 1:00.
Title: Re: Cornell 3 Northeastern 2 (Postgame thread)
Post by: trainbow on March 29, 2009, 12:47:21 PM
[quote DisplacedCornellian][quote trainbow]Some observations from the box score:

Cornell won only 40% of the faceoffs.

[/quote]

Schafer's comments on that:

'When asked how they can improve their faceoff draws in Sunday's Midwest Regional final, Cornell head coach Mike Schafer didn't hesitate.

"It's really easy. We're not going to have to play against Joe Vitale. We heard he was good coming into the game. He was unbelievable. He must have been near 90 percent tonight and we have some good guys on faceoffs."'

http://www.uscho.com/news/college-hockey/id,17002/NotebookCornellNortheastern.html[/quote]

Vitale was 25 of 35, so roughly 70%.
Otherwise, NU was 19 of 35.  Only Rassey (1 of 5) was less than 50%.
For CU, the only guys better than 50% were Punches (3 of 4) and Barlow (2 of 3).
Title: Re: Cornell 3 Northeastern 2 (Postgame thread)
Post by: upperdeck on March 29, 2009, 12:49:43 PM
I think some people relate our goal scoring to our style.. It seems to me that since the RPI series we have been pushing forward much more on offense, the bigger issue we just dont finish plays. we need to start scoring some goals that dont require screens or deflections or get mucked in. NE didnt do much more either, one double deflection and a blown D coverage for a breakway are hardly a domination offensive performance.
Title: Re: Cornell 3 Northeastern 2 (Postgame thread)
Post by: kfish on March 29, 2009, 01:02:46 PM
I talked to someone affiliated with BSU (asst coach or trainer?)who thought they have about 150 fans here.  It'll be a small, but hopefully loud, showing of fans from both sides.

Regarding BSU's play; in short, they were fast and tenacious.  I don't think they ever relaxed, even when up 4-nil.
Title: More YOUTUBE GOAL CLIPS
Post by: marty on March 29, 2009, 01:04:34 PM
Albany semi 3rd per. highlights (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yb1Eb339cuA&fmt=18)

Greening's GWG over Princeton in Albany (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=slzu7SLnnrc&fmt=18)

Gallagher's 2nd period goal vs. NE (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=amBpfShcmiA&fmt=18)

Greening tying goal vs. NE (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zyZwpdxJpOw&fmt=18)
Title: Re: Cornell 3 Northeastern 2 (Postgame thread)
Post by: judy on March 29, 2009, 02:01:54 PM
I think Josh mentioned hearing Bemidji fans. They have fans there but mostly they cheered at the goals and at the end. However, there was a group of about 10 really drunk guys right behind us who kept cheering. They're the ones who started chanting "WE WANT CORNELL!"

Not sure how they sold the tickets since our section was a mix of Cornell and Notre Dame fans.

Is anyone able to explain Notre Dame's cheers and various "dances" that go along with the cheers? Or maybe the hand gestures meant something. I don't understand :(
Title: Re: Norton...ugh!
Post by: Rich S on March 29, 2009, 02:55:50 PM
[quote Trotsky][quote ansky629]By the way - does anybody know if there's a reason he hates us?  Or is it just that he really doesn't like our style of play?[/quote]

I don't think Norton hates us.  He's just an extreme New England homer.[/quote]

True that!  He has always dissed Clarkson and St Law, though I'd bet he has had a few drinks with Joe Marsh, another New England native.

And he has no respect for anyone in the ECAC, except perhaps for Harvard.
Title: Re: Cornell 3 Northeastern 2 (Postgame thread)
Post by: Jeff Hopkins '82 on March 29, 2009, 02:59:51 PM
The hand gestures mimic those of the cheerleaders with their pompoms.  Now why they do that...
Title: Re: Cornell 3 Northeastern 2 (Postgame thread)
Post by: TimV on March 29, 2009, 03:04:36 PM
Sorry.  Used up all of mine in 2nd period vs NE.::twitch::