With Cornell's win over Penn 83-59 and Columbia's upset of Princeton 58-44, Cornell has won the Ivy League title for the second consecutive year.
They will find out their NCAA first round matchup on March 15.
Let's Go Red!!!!!
Honestly, Columbia beating Princeton in NYC isn't much of an upset. Princeton played over their heads this year, no more so than when they beat us in NJ.
Cherry on the sundae is a revenge win tomorrow night.
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Or this one (http://www.ivysport.com/product-product_id/2366/category_id/123).
Don't know if it's been said or not but we're the first Ivy League school other than Penn or Princeton to repeat as champs since Dartmouth in '58-'59. And assuming nobody goes pro::nut:: we'll have the nucleus of our team back next year.
[quote Germ]Don't know if it's been said or not but we're the first Ivy League school other than Penn or Princeton to repeat as champs since Dartmouth in '58-'59. And assuming nobody goes pro::nut:: we'll have the nucleus of our team back next year.[/quote]
Yes, this ran on "The Bottom Line" for some of the Ivy League champ's annual 24-hour news cycle relevance.
I'll be very interested to see what the team is like next year, especially without Foote in the middle. I understand he's not the focus of our offense, but he certainly affects the way we operate.
True. I'm also curious to see how the transfer (forgot name) from Kentucky will do. He's not as tall as Foote but I'm hoping (praying actually) that he's got talent and will be a huge addition to our squad.
[quote BCrespi][quote Germ]Don't know if it's been said or not but we're the first Ivy League school other than Penn or Princeton to repeat as champs since Dartmouth in '58-'59. And assuming nobody goes pro::nut:: we'll have the nucleus of our team back next year.[/quote]
Yes, this ran on "The Bottom Line" for some of the Ivy League champ's annual 24-hour news cycle relevance.
I'll be very interested to see what the team is like next year, especially without Foote in the middle. I understand he's not the focus of our offense, but he certainly affects the way we operate.[/quote]
First off, Jeff Foote is DEFINITELY coming back next year. So you will see all five starters back (Tyler, Foote, Wittman, Dale and Reeves). We also return 2 of our top 3 reserves in Wire and Wroblewski. The only player from the 8 man rotation gone next year is Kreefer (and Battle as a 9th man).
NEWCOMERS-
Max Groebe, the UMass transfer is a stud. He'll start from day 1 and could be a bigger scoring threat than Wittman. He had scholarships to Miami FL, Georgetown and other biggies before going to UMass.
Mark Coury, is 6'9" and 240 pounds. He started 31 games at Kentucky and could've returned. He was a scholarship player under BOTH Tubby Smith and BillY Gillespie.
What to expect? He's not your typical Kentucky player. So--- if you are expecting to see Jamal Mashburn, Antoine Walker, or Patrick Patterson--- leave those expectations at the door.
But what you will see is a relentless worker, a guy who is bigger and stronger than most Ivy Leauge players, who hustles on every play, who can scrap for boards and play tough defense. He might even be an upgrade over Alex Tyler. I like to compare him to a Mark Madsen or Tyler Hansbrough type of guy. A floor burner.
Here is some footage to give you a bit of an idea...
http://cornellbasketball.blogspot.com/2009/01/video-clips-of-mark-coury.html (http://cornellbasketball.blogspot.com/2009/01/video-clips-of-mark-coury.html)
Well, good to hear he's coming back. I guess I was confused by all of the eligibility implications of his transfers. Looks like we should have a very deep team next year.
Even if Foote were to get injured, we'd have a 7 footer in reserve in Van Burck, right? Did he get any run at all this year?
I like what Coury brings to the team a lot. I think Gillespie had soured on him, though. When I mentioned his transfer to a Kentucky alum he went to law school with, his response was "Coury was so important to us that I didn't realize he wasn't on the team any more."
[quote ugarte]Even if Foote were to get injured, we'd have a 7 footer in reserve in Van Burck, right? Did he get any run at all this year?
I like what Coury brings to the team a lot. I think Gillespie had soured on him, though. When I mentioned his transfer to a Kentucky alum he went to law school with, his response was "Coury was so important to us that I didn't realize he wasn't on the team any more."[/quote]
Van Burck is a transfer from Colorado and does come back with his 6'11" 225 lb. frame. But he needs to keep working hard to earn minutes. He didn't play much this season.
Frankly, neither you nor I should care what some law buddy says. Gillespie wanted him back and I place a whole hell of a lot more value in that face. Further, our staff is excited about him. That gives plenty of reason to be optimistic.
Finally, Brown and Penn are not Florida and vanderbilt. This kid can be a player at our level.
Coury (http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_magX206klWM/SW4B-gVv7iI/AAAAAAAAMN0/UqVwNuWuDRE/s1600-h/Mark+COury8.jpg)
[quote CornellFan][quote BCrespi][quote Germ]Don't know if it's been said or not but we're the first Ivy League school other than Penn or Princeton to repeat as champs since Dartmouth in '58-'59. And assuming nobody goes pro::nut:: we'll have the nucleus of our team back next year.[/quote]
Yes, this ran on "The Bottom Line" for some of the Ivy League champ's annual 24-hour news cycle relevance.
I'll be very interested to see what the team is like next year, especially without Foote in the middle. I understand he's not the focus of our offense, but he certainly affects the way we operate.[/quote]
First off, Jeff Foote is DEFINITELY coming back next year. So you will see all five starters back (Tyler, Foote, Wittman, Dale and Reeves). We also return 2 of our top 3 reserves in Wire and Wroblewski. The only player from the 8 man rotation gone next year is Kreefer (and Battle as a 9th man).
NEWCOMERS-
Max Groebe, the UMass transfer is a stud. He'll start from day 1 and could be a bigger scoring threat than Wittman. He had scholarships to Miami FL, Georgetown and other biggies before going to UMass.
Mark Coury, is 6'9" and 240 pounds. He started 31 games at Kentucky and could've returned. He was a scholarship player under BOTH Tubby Smith and BillY Gillespie.
What to expect? He's not your typical Kentucky player. So--- if you are expecting to see Jamal Mashburn, Antoine Walker, or Patrick Patterson--- leave those expectations at the door.
But what you will see is a relentless worker, a guy who is bigger and stronger than most Ivy Leauge players, who hustles on every play, who can scrap for boards and play tough defense. He might even be an upgrade over Alex Tyler. I like to compare him to a Mark Madsen or Tyler Hansbrough type of guy. A floor burner.
Here is some footage to give you a bit of an idea...
http://cornellbasketball.blogspot.com/2009/01/video-clips-of-mark-coury.html (http://cornellbasketball.blogspot.com/2009/01/video-clips-of-mark-coury.html)[/quote]
Thanks for the preview on what to look for going into next year!
[quote CornellFan]First off, Jeff Foote is DEFINITELY coming back next year. So you will see all five starters back (Tyler, Foote, Wittman, Dale and Reeves). We also return 2 of our top 3 reserves in Wire and Wroblewski. The only player from the 8 man rotation gone next year is Kreefer (and Battle as a 9th man).
NEWCOMERS-
Max Groebe, the UMass transfer is a stud. He'll start from day 1 and could be a bigger scoring threat than Wittman. He had scholarships to Miami FL, Georgetown and other biggies before going to UMass. [/quote]If all five starters are returning from the team that won back-to-back conference championships, and Groebe will start from day 1, who sits?
[quote CornellFan]Frankly, neither you nor I should care what some law buddy says. Gillespie wanted him back and I place a whole hell of a lot more value in that fact. Further, our staff is excited about him. That gives plenty of reason to be optimistic.
Finally, Brown and Penn are not Florida and vanderbilt. This kid can be a player at our level.[/quote]
I assume that Gillespie wanted him back. That doesn't mean he was going to play as much as he had in the past. The consensus among Wildcat fans seemed to be that he worked his ass off, was a very smart player and ... was not going to get much more playing time.
But I don't want to give the impression that I don't think he'll work out for Cornell! I am very optimistic about him - players who can't quite cut it in the SEC are All-Ivy. Which makes me angry all over again that VBK took Pax Whitehead with him to Vandy...
What we need now is a solid OOC schedule like this year. I think we get St Joe's at home next year as part 2 of a the home n home. I would assume we'll get Cuse (on the road) and probably play in a pre-season tournament of some kind. One or two big names on top of that and we'd be set.
But I'm still hoping for a miracle that we can steal one in the NC$$ tourney this year. ::rock::We'd probably need a 14 seed and draw a team along the lines of Butler, Gonzaga, Xavier, etc. The good news is that there's no way we can shoot as poorly as we did against Stanford last year. I think we were close to setting a record for the lowest field goal pct.
At the very least, at least we shouldn't have to play a team with two (2!) starting seven-footers. I generally root for Duke, but that wouldn't be the worst matchup for us. I'd love to see us in a matchup with another shooting team.
[quote BCrespi]At the very least, at least we shouldn't have to play a team with two (2!) starting seven-footers. I generally root for Duke, but that wouldn't be the worst matchup for us. I'd love to see us in a matchup with another shooting team.[/quote]
Completely agree. I've been looking forward to a potential Duke matchup since the bracketology started showing that possibility a few weeks ago. A 3 point shooting team that lacks a paint presence and speed is what we need to face to pull off an upset, IMO. Plus, the added hilarity of beating Duke would we hard to top.
My hunch is that Reeves and Wrobo come off the bench. But regardless of who starts the game, Groebe is a 30 minute player next year. He's just too good of a scorer and Steve loves shooters.
Gillespie liked to play Coury 2-10 minutes per game at the start of the game. He liked Mark to get things going with some intensity and help rally the rest of the troops.
Maybe his minutes would decline in the years to come.... but one thing is for certain, this was not a guy who was 15th on the bench with no hope of ever playing.
He was a role player that the coaches loved. And frankly--- I think Wrobo, Greeb, Coury, Hill and Wire is the beginning of a very competitive nucleus for 2010-2011. Give us a couple more pieces and we will be competitive for a 4-peat.
[quote Germ]What we need now is a solid OOC schedule like this year. I think we get St Joe's at home next year as part 2 of a the home n home. I would assume we'll get Cuse (on the road) and probably play in a pre-season tournament of some kind. One or two big names on top of that and we'd be set.
But I'm still hoping for a miracle that we can steal one in the NC$$ tourney this year. ::rock::We'd probably need a 14 seed and draw a team along the lines of Butler, Gonzaga, Xavier, etc. The good news is that there's no way we can shoot as poorly as we did against Stanford last year. I think we were close to setting a record for the lowest field goal pct.[/quote]
We play St. Joes (Ithaca), @La Salle, @Syracuse and @Kansas. From what I understand, we are trying to get a game for Lou down at either Alabama or UAB.
You can rest assured they will schedule several tough games just like this year.
[quote Germ]But I'm still hoping for a miracle that we can steal one in the NC$$ tourney this year. ::rock::We'd probably need a 14 seed and draw a team along the lines of Butler, Gonzaga, Xavier, etc. The good news is that there's no way we can shoot as poorly as we did against Stanford last year. I think we were close to setting a record for the lowest field goal pct.[/quote]I hope so; I predicted to a group of friends last night that we were going to win a game in the tourney this year or next year and I'd love it if the guys proved me right! ::rock::
[quote CornellFan][quote Germ]What we need now is a solid OOC schedule like this year. I think we get St Joe's at home next year as part 2 of a the home n home. I would assume we'll get Cuse (on the road) and probably play in a pre-season tournament of some kind. One or two big names on top of that and we'd be set.
But I'm still hoping for a miracle that we can steal one in the NC$$ tourney this year. ::rock::We'd probably need a 14 seed and draw a team along the lines of Butler, Gonzaga, Xavier, etc. The good news is that there's no way we can shoot as poorly as we did against Stanford last year. I think we were close to setting a record for the lowest field goal pct.[/quote]
We play St. Joes (Ithaca), @La Salle, @Syracuse and @Kansas. From what I understand, we are trying to get a game for Lou down at either Alabama or UAB.
You can rest assured they will schedule several tough games just like this year.[/quote]
CornellFan,
Do you know when we are playing St Joes? Is it going to be during the semester when all the students are here or is it going to be over Winter break?
I never got the date, but I'll ask. I know Kansas is in January,
I am glad that we don't have to deal with Fran Dunphy in the Ivy League anymore (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/recap?gameId=290722752).
Not sure if everyone saw the news, but our neighbors to the south, (and safety school for Cornell applicants aplenty), the Binghamton Bearcats, are headed to the NCAA tournament for the first time. (http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5gRugcgzIymMxsVEM_17Z6XGfYgSAD96TVDMO0)
[quote Jordan 04] (and safety school for Cornell applicants aplenty), the Binghamton Bobcats, [[/quote]
Not this Cornell applicant. I thought Binghamton was kind of a safety school. They thought otherwise. I was at SUNY-Albany for 3 semesters instead.
[quote ugarte]Not this Cornell applicant. I thought Binghamton was kind of a safety school. They thought otherwise. I was at SUNY-Albany for 3 semesters instead.[/quote]
You clearly needed some seasoning before you were worthy to nap in Ives.
[quote Jordan 04]Not sure if everyone saw the news, but our neighbors to the south, (and safety school for Cornell applicants aplenty), the Binghamton Bobcats, are headed to the NCAA tournament for the first time. (http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5gRugcgzIymMxsVEM_17Z6XGfYgSAD96TVDMO0)[/quote]
Did you really think the Binghamton Bearcats were called the Bobcats, or was that an extremely obscure Boeheim reference?
Neither really. Just mixed up their name.
I take more exception to his calling Binghamton a safety school for us, then I do to getting the nickname wrong.