Upadated 3/8/09
Current Bracket:
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Yale (32)
Brown (10)
Cornell (29)
RPI (13)
Princeton (28)
Union (20)
St. Lawrence (26)
Quinnipiac (21)
Home team is on top. Best of three, 3/13-3/15
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Original post:
There are a lot of predictions out tonight about this week's games:
http://www.dailygazette.com/weblogs/schott/2009/mar/05/ecac-hockey-tournament-predictions-volume-1/
http://www.uscho.com/news/college-hockey/id,16794/ThisWeekinECACHockeyMarch52009.html
http://www.collegehockeynews.com/news/preview.php?cd=10
The votes are:
Harvard 3 Brown 0
Colgate 3 Quinnipiac 0
Union 2 Clarkson 1
Dartmouth 3 RPI 0
The unanimous pick of #10 Colgate over #7 Quinnipiac is interesting.
I think Clarkson has been playing better hockey than Union lately, but they don't always play well away from Cheel.
If anyone finds more predictions, I can add them to this post.
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INCH has a playoff summary here, but no predictions:
http://insidecollegehockey.com/inch/2009/03/05/ecac-hockey-first-round-playoff-preview/
I can't say I'm shocked at these picks. Ken Schott rarely picks against Union or RPI unless faced with a pretty obvious situation like RPIs, very much a homer in the past so I'll write that Union pick off and consider it a 1-1 tie :P
I'm surprised that Colgate is a unanimous pick, but I also expect them to win. Also not surprised that the Clarkson-Union game is a split, nearly everyone picked it to go three games, and when that happens, well, one bounce might determine the whole thing.
I agree with the consensus picks, except I don't see Union beating Clarkson. From what I saw up in Potsdam, the Golden Knights can play at a much higher level than the Dutchmen. A Clarkson series win with a Colgate upset gives us a crack at the Golden Knights.
[quote ebilmes]I agree with the consensus picks, except I don't see Union beating Clarkson. From what I saw up in Potsdam, the Golden Knights can play at a much higher level than the Dutchmen. A Clarkson series win with a Colgate upset gives us a crack at the Golden Knights.[/quote]
Unfortunatley, we (Clarkson) do not play well at Union. I was at the game on Saturday and it was one of the hardest hitting college games I have seen in a while. It will be a war.
But would we play you? It seems I ask the same question every year, do they re-seed? If they do re-seed, why do they have the winner of Union/Clarkson playing Yale in the brackets?
I too, would love a shot at you guys.
[quote lynah80]The unanimous pick of #10 Colgate over #7 Quinnipiac is interesting.[/quote]
The Skating Deer Ticks have been in the toilet lately, and Colgate played their second half about as well as we did. I also can't shake the feeling that 'Gate is better than its record, given what they did against Cornell.
The ECAC does reseed. If Harvard, Dartmouth, Colgate and Clarkson win in the first round, the bracket would be:
Yale (32)
Colgate (17)
Cornell (29)
Clarkson (20)
Princeton (28)
Dartmouth (24)
St. Lawrence (26)
Harvard (24)
The Harvard-Dartmouth tie breaker is head to head record (1-0-1) in favor of Harvard.
[quote Trotsky]The Skating Fighting Deer Ticks have been in the toilet lately...[/quote]
FYP
[quote CowbellGuy][quote Trotsky]The Skating Fighting Skating Deer Ticks have been in the toilet lately...[/quote]
FYP[/quote]
Fixed it back. The Fighting Deer Ticks are Quinnipiac's teams in the non-hockey sports; c.f. St. Lawrence.
Note that the women's team is the Skating Doe Ticks.
(http://elynah.com/media/misc/fighting_deerticks.png)
Just trying to get my 50 kuna's worth...
[quote Trotsky]Note that the women's team is the Skating Doe Ticks.[/quote]No it's not.
A) "Deer" is gender-neutral, so there's no reason you'd change it to "Doe."
B) In any case, you're changing the gender of the wrong thing. What you'd need would be the female form of "Tick".
A. Joke.
b. See A.
[quote Trotsky]A. Joke.
b. See A.[/quote]Welcome to ELynah. We like nipticking here, maybe you've noticed. :-P
[quote Josh '99][quote Trotsky]A. Joke.
b. See A.[/quote]Welcome to ELynah. We like nipticking here; maybe you've noticed. :-P[/quote]
FYP.
[quote Beeeej][quote Josh '99][quote Trotsky]A. Joke.
b. See A.[/quote]Welcome to ELynah. We like nipticking here; maybe you've noticed. :-P[/quote]
FYP.[/quote]
Typical.
[quote Trotsky][quote Beeeej][quote Josh '99][quote Trotsky]A. Joke.
b. See A.[/quote]Welcome to ELynah. We like nipticking here; maybe you've noticed. :-P[/quote]
FYP.[/quote]
Typical.[/quote]
Jerk. ::rolleyes::
[quote jtwcornell91][quote Trotsky][quote Beeeej][quote Josh '99][quote Trotsky]A. Joke.
b. See A.[/quote]Welcome to ELynah. We like nipticking here; maybe you've noticed. :-P[/quote]
FYP.[/quote]
Jerk.[/quote]
Typical. ::rolleyes::[/quote]
FYP.
[quote redhair34][quote RichS][quote Trotsky][quote Beeeej][quote Josh '99][quote Trotsky]A. Joke.
b. See A.[/quote]Welcome to ELynah. We like nipticking here; maybe you've noticed. :-P[/quote]
FYP.[/quote]
Jerk.[/quote]
Typical. ::rolleyes::[/quote]
FYP.[/quote]
FYP.
From reading this thread, I can tell that Cornell has a bye this week. ::rolleyes::
The quarterfinal bracket is very different from the predicted one.
Dartmouth was set back by team rowdy boy Joe Stejskal who took a 5 minute Hitting from Behind plus a Game Misconduct in the first period of the second game. They also have the excuse that they are at the end of the winter trimester, with exams coming up.
Harvard seemed like they wanted to end their season early.
How much of Harvard's demise can be attributed to Mike Clemente's goal tending?
For the season:
Clemente (4-9-2) 2.6254, 0.932
Rosen (1-11-3) 3.9316, 0.900
and against Harvard:
Clemente: (2-0) 0.00, 1.00
Rosen: (0-0-2) 2.00, 0.953
[quote lynah80]How much of Harvard's demise can be attributed to Mike Clemente's goal tending?[/quote]
Harvard really didn't seem to challenge Clemente much. Props to the guy for shutting them out for two nights -- he literally could not have been better -- but it was an assisted suicide.
Fisher, OTOH, flat out saved Q in game three.
INCH is predicting Princeton will repeat as ECAC Champions:
http://www.insidecollegehockey.com/5Polls/0809/44_0724.htm
Check the fine print at the bottom of the page.
I don't agree with that prediction. One thing that will be different this year at Albany is that the consolation game should be more competitive since it will have Pairwise implications.
Quote from: INCHTough break for the Big Red to be sent to Minneapolis to face the Sioux on Lake Mariucci. Cornell's strengths are better suited to the NHL-sized rinks.
"Tough break", my ass!! It seems more like a rite of spring. ::flipd::
[quote redice]
Quote from: INCHTough break for the Big Red to be sent to Minneapolis to face the Sioux on Lake Mariucci. Cornell's strengths are better suited to the NHL-sized rinks.
"Tough break", my ass!! It seems more like a rite of spring. ::flipd::[/quote]There was a time earlier in the season when we controlled our own destiny. I may not like where we end up but I certainly don't think we can legitimately complain.
[quote KenP][quote redice]
Quote from: INCHTough break for the Big Red to be sent to Minneapolis to face the Sioux on Lake Mariucci. Cornell's strengths are better suited to the NHL-sized rinks.
"Tough break", my ass!! It seems more like a rite of spring. ::flipd::[/quote]There was a time earlier in the season when we controlled our own destiny. I may not like where we end up but I certainly don't think we can legitimately complain.[/quote]
We can always complain! We don't need no stinking legitimacy!
Wait.. I thought the NCAA established only NHL size rinks for the tournament? Did I imagine that?
Minnesota's sheet is 200'x100'. I don't think Cornell fans should be overly concerned about that.
Summary of Predictions:
Yale 4, Brown 0
Cornell 4, RPI 0
Princeton 3*, Union 1
St. Lawrence 3, Quinnipiac 1
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College Hockey News - games need to win series:
Yale in 2
Cornell in 2
Princeton in 3
St. Lawrence in 3
http://www.collegehockeynews.com/news/preview.php?cd=10
Dave Starman - USCHO - winners:
Yale
Cornell
Princeton
Quinnipiac
http://www.uscho.com/news/college-hockey/id,16851/ThePlayoffPicture.html
Brian Sullivan - USCHO - games needed to win series:
Yale in 2
Cornell in 3
Princeton in 2
St. Lawrence in 3
http://www.uscho.com/news/college-hockey/id,16852/ThisWeekinECACHockeyMarch122009.html
Ken Schott - Daily Gazette Schenectedy - games needed to win series:
Yale in 2
Cornell in 2
Union in 3
St. Lawrence in 2
http://www.dailygazette.com/weblogs/schott/2009/mar/12/ecac-hockey-tournament-predictions-volume-2/
Mike Eidelbes - INCH - pre-game summary without predictions:
http://insidecollegehockey.com/inch/category/ecachockey/
*INCH predicts Princeton will win the playoffs.
http://www.insidecollegehockey.com/5Polls/0809/44_0724.htm
[quote Trotsky][quote lynah80]How much of Harvard's demise can be attributed to Mike Clemente's goal tending?[/quote]
Harvard really didn't seem to challenge Clemente much. Props to the guy for shutting them out for two nights -- he literally could not have been better -- but it was an assisted suicide.
Fisher, OTOH, flat out saved Q in game three.[/quote]
Eighty-six saves in two games (http://insidecollegehockey.com/inch/category/ecachockey/) sounds pretty challenging to me. But then, what do I know. ::wtf::
Can I bitch about having to pay B2 instead of having video for the quarterfinals included in Redcast?
Bitch bitch bitch
[quote Kyle Rose]Can I bitch about having to pay B2 instead of having video for the quarterfinals included in Redcast?
Bitch bitch bitch[/quote]
Kyle, you forgot the pictures we can get for free ::cuss::.
I guess my suggestion to the ECACHL went over like a lead balloon.
I would have paid $40-45 dollars for a playoff package that included access to ALL playoff games, both live and on-demand. However, it isn't worth it to pay up to $44 just to see Cornell play this weekend and next weekends finals.
Oh well, here's hoping there aren't any issues with REDCAST audio tonight.
Playoffs in Albany:
March 20
4:00 PM
(1) Yale
(4) St. Lawrence
7:30 PM
(2) Cornell
(3) Princeton
March 21
Consolation
4:00 PM
Championship
7:00 PM
[quote lynah80]
7:00 PM
(2) Cornell
(3) Princeton
[/quote]
Our game against Princeton is at 7:30, not 7.
For those of you with the NHL Network, it looks like the semifinal games will both be televised live. Not sure about Saturday's games though....
[quote KenP]For those of you with the NHL Network, it looks like the semifinal games will both be televised live. Not sure about Saturday's games though....[/quote]I think it's delayed to Sun.; I think that happened last year as well.
[quote sah67][quote lynah80]
7:00 PM
(2) Cornell
(3) Princeton
[/quote]
Our game against Princeton is at 7:30, not 7.[/quote]
Okay, I changed it. Thank you.
Buying tickets at the door shouldn't be a problem, correct? I know it hasn't been in the past.
Looks like a great tourney. Are any of the other teams likely to draw a good crowd to Albany?
[quote jts15]Looks like a great tourney.[/quote]
All 4 teams enter with 20+ wins and 10+ games > .500. I strongly suspect that's a first.
[quote jts15]Buying tickets at the door shouldn't be a problem, correct? I know it hasn't been in the past.
Looks like a great tourney. Are any of the other teams likely to draw a good crowd to Albany?[/quote]
From past experience, Cornell is the only team that travels in >200 numbers. Should be fine getting tickets at the door. Hopefully this will change, because it definitely is a lot more fun having other fans to cheer against.
SLU can bring a good crowd - at least they do for their regular season RPI game. Who knows about Yale - they've never been here.:-D
anyone know what section at albany the cornell ticket office has tickets for?
[quote A-ron]anyone know what section at albany the cornell ticket office has tickets for?[/quote]
Sections 117 and 118. There is a sign that says that tickets purchased for both days will get seats in 118 and tickets being purchased for just one of the sessions will be in 117 but I have no idea if that policy is being put into practice.
FWIW, the tickets say 7:00 for the late game. Having said that, I don't think the late game has ever started on time.
[quote TimV]SLU can bring a good crowd - at least they do for their regular season RPI game. [/quote]SLU(t) used to draw very well in Lake Placid, though granted that was a very short trip for them. Anyone know how the crowd was in 2007? I can't seem to find any attendance numbers, but that might be some indication of what to expect out of them.
[quote Josh '99][quote TimV]SLU can bring a good crowd - at least they do for their regular season RPI game. [/quote]SLU(t) used to draw very well in Lake Placid, though granted that was a very short trip for them.[/quote]
SLU used to travel well to Boston, too, so it wasn't just the short trip. Their fan base, particularly their townies, are extremely dedicated. There aren't that many of them to begin with, but those there are go on the road.
[quote Trotsky][quote Josh '99][quote TimV]SLU can bring a good crowd - at least they do for their regular season RPI game. [/quote]SLU(t) used to draw very well in Lake Placid, though granted that was a very short trip for them.[/quote]
SLU used to travel well to Boston, too, so it wasn't just the short trip. Their fan base, particularly their townies, are extremely dedicated. There aren't that many of them to begin with, but those there are go on the road.[/quote]But no band, and they can't bring that obnoxious drum to play during the game.
[quote Jim Hyla][quote Trotsky][quote Josh '99][quote TimV]SLU can bring a good crowd - at least they do for their regular season RPI game. [/quote]SLU(t) used to draw very well in Lake Placid, though granted that was a very short trip for them.[/quote]
SLU used to travel well to Boston, too, so it wasn't just the short trip. Their fan base, particularly their townies, are extremely dedicated. There aren't that many of them to begin with, but those there are go on the road.[/quote]But no band, and they can't bring that obnoxious drum to play during the game.[/quote]
Don't they have a traveling version of their siren that someone always brings?
[quote TimV]SLU can bring a good crowd - at least they do for their regular season RPI game. Who knows about Yale - they've never been here.:-D[/quote]
Yale had three fans at the recent RPI game in Troy, but one of them can't make it this weekend. He's busy setting up a track team in NYC. I hope that all four schools bring their bands.
[quote marty][quote TimV]SLU can bring a good crowd - at least they do for their regular season RPI game. Who knows about Yale - they've never been here.:-D[/quote]
Yale had three fans at the recent RPI game in Troy, but one of them can't make it this weekend. He's busy setting up a track team in NYC. I hope that all four schools bring their bands.[/quote]Uh, see prior post. SLU doesn't have a band.
[quote marty][quote TimV]SLU can bring a good crowd - at least they do for their regular season RPI game. Who knows about Yale - they've never been here.:-D[/quote]
Yale had three fans at the recent RPI game in Troy, but one of them can't make it this weekend. He's busy setting up a track team in NYC. I hope that all four schools bring their bands.[/quote]
Yale and Cornell can have a South Park duel with "Uncle F*cka" vs "Kyle's Mom".
Will our band be there? With the squeakball tourney at the same time, will Andy and the boys spring for two trips?
[quote Jeff Hopkins '82]Will our band be there? With the squeakball tourney at the same time, will Andy and the boys spring for two trips?[/quote]
Does the question even need to be asked? The answer, of course, is yes. Last year was more difficult when we had sent bands to Men's March Madness, Albany, and Women's March Madness.
The pep band is self-supported (read: alumni and friends of the band). There is no financial support from Athletics for the trips.
Interestingly, there is no cost to the band for the basketball tournament - the NCAA covers the expenses. Not true for hockey or lacrosse, unfortunately.
[quote Flyers1037][quote Jeff Hopkins '82]Will our band be there? With the squeakball tourney at the same time, will Andy and the boys spring for two trips?[/quote]
Does the question even need to be asked? The answer, of course, is yes. Last year was more difficult when we had sent bands to Men's March Madness, Albany, and Women's March Madness.[/quote]
Sorry, I just remembered the sad showing last year, but I forgot that the women made the tourney, too. ::doh::
Just glad it won't happen again.
[quote Jeff Hopkins '82][quote Flyers1037][quote Jeff Hopkins '82]Will our band be there? With the squeakball tourney at the same time, will Andy and the boys spring for two trips?[/quote]
Does the question even need to be asked? The answer, of course, is yes. Last year was more difficult when we had sent bands to Men's March Madness, Albany, and Women's March Madness.[/quote]
Sorry, I just remembered the sad showing last year, but I forgot that the women made the tourney, too. ::doh::
Just glad it won't happen again.[/quote]Meaning you don't want the women to go to the NCAAs?::smashfreak::
[quote Jeff Hopkins '82][quote Flyers1037][quote Jeff Hopkins '82]Will our band be there? With the squeakball tourney at the same time, will Andy and the boys spring for two trips?[/quote]
Does the question even need to be asked? The answer, of course, is yes. Last year was more difficult when we had sent bands to Men's March Madness, Albany, and Women's March Madness.[/quote]
Sorry, I just remembered the sad showing last year[/quote]
Hey, we alumni did our best. :`-( But yes, it wasn't up to the pep band's usual level of excellence. Thankfully a good number of undergrad bandies got off the plane from Anaheim and made it to Albany in time for Saturday's consolation game before going to Bridgeport for the Women's hoops game.
[quote Jim Hyla][quote Jeff Hopkins '82][quote Flyers1037][quote Jeff Hopkins '82]Will our band be there? With the squeakball tourney at the same time, will Andy and the boys spring for two trips?[/quote]
Does the question even need to be asked? The answer, of course, is yes. Last year was more difficult when we had sent bands to Men's March Madness, Albany, and Women's March Madness.[/quote]
Sorry, I just remembered the sad showing last year, but I forgot that the women made the tourney, too. ::doh::
Just glad it won't happen again.[/quote]Meaning you don't want the women to go to the NCAAs?::smashfreak::[/quote]
Is there an "indifference" smiley?