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General Category => Hockey => Topic started by: Trotsky on February 14, 2009, 06:43:52 PM

Title: Cornell 2 Harvard 4
Post by: Trotsky on February 14, 2009, 06:43:52 PM
2 07:04 Hvd pp Killorn (Rogers, A. Biega)
2 10:43 Cor Greening 9 (Gallagher, J. Devin)
2 14:46 Hvd pp McCollem (Rogers, Moriarty)
3 06:56 Hvd pp Moriarty (Huxley, McCollem)
3 16:30 Cor Greening 10 (Gallagher)
3 19:46 Hvd pp/en N. Cisknre (A. Biega, Huxley)
Title: Re: Cornell 0 Harvard 0 (pregame)
Post by: Trotsky on February 14, 2009, 06:45:20 PM
SLU beat Princeton this afternoon, so a win puts Cornell back in 2nd.  That would go a long way to assuage the last few weeks' feeling of disappointment.

From what I can tell:

Kary- Mugford- P. Kennedy
Barlow - R. Nash - Collins
Greening - Gallagher - J. Devin
Scali - Punches - Nicholls

M. Devin - B. Nash
Krueger - Seminoff
Ross - Davenport

Scrivens


Scratches: M. Kennedy (Inj), Jillson (Inj), Roeszler (Inj), Whitney
Title: Re: Cornell 0 Harvard 0 (pregame)
Post by: Cactus12 on February 14, 2009, 07:16:38 PM
that was a garbage contact to the head call (or i've been watching too much nhl)
Title: Re: Cornell 0 Harvard 0 (pregame)
Post by: Trotsky on February 14, 2009, 07:18:06 PM
[quote Cactus12]that was a garbage contact to the head call (or i've been watching too much nhl)[/quote]Where are you watching?
Title: Re: Cornell 0 Harvard 0 (pregame)
Post by: Cactus12 on February 14, 2009, 07:18:26 PM
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Title: Re: Cornell 0 Harvard 0 (1st)
Post by: Cactus12 on February 14, 2009, 07:20:49 PM
google "cornell vs. harvard" (fourth hit)
Title: Re: Cornell 0 Harvard 0 (pregame)
Post by: Trotsky on February 14, 2009, 07:21:02 PM
[quote Cactus12]atdhe[/quote]Beg pardon?
Title: Re: Cornell 0 Harvard 0 (1st)
Post by: Trotsky on February 14, 2009, 07:22:00 PM
Gotcha, thanks.
Title: Re: Cornell 0 Harvard 0 (1st)
Post by: Cactus12 on February 14, 2009, 07:22:42 PM
yeh (don't really want to link it)
Title: Re: Cornell 0 Harvard 0 (1st)
Post by: Cactus12 on February 14, 2009, 07:27:13 PM
find it?
Title: Re: Cornell 0 Harvard 0 (1st)
Post by: Trotsky on February 14, 2009, 07:29:47 PM
[quote Cactus12]find it?[/quote]Yes.  Thx.
Title: Re: Cornell 0 Harvard 0 (1st)
Post by: Chris 02 on February 14, 2009, 07:30:10 PM
Still 0-0 with about 5 left in the first.  Harvard with about a 3-1 shot ratio advantage.
Title: Re: Cornell 0 Harvard 0 (1st)
Post by: ugarte on February 14, 2009, 07:30:53 PM
[quote Cactus12]find it?[/quote]
yep.

Cornell goes on the PP.
Title: Re: Cornell 0 Harvard 0 (pregame)
Post by: Rita on February 14, 2009, 07:36:02 PM
Jordan Kary gets mugged in front of the Harvard net. Another PP.
Title: Re: Cornell 0 Harvard 0 (1st)
Post by: ugarte on February 14, 2009, 07:36:17 PM
Harvard killed the last PP, but Cornell's got another one with just over 2 minutes left in the first.
Title: Re: Cornell 0 Harvard 0 (pregame)
Post by: ugarte on February 14, 2009, 07:40:17 PM
PP killed and the 1st period ends.

Impressive last PP but they couldn't cash in. Barlow almost had one but the Harvard sieve got lucky. ;)
Title: Re: Cornell 0 Harvard 0 (1st)
Post by: Rita on February 14, 2009, 07:42:25 PM
Harvard killed another one, but Cornell had a few chances after the penalty (and as the period) expired.

Anyone watching on CBSTV and catch the names of the commentators?
Title: Re: Cornell 0 Harvard 0 (pregame)
Post by: oceanst41 on February 14, 2009, 07:52:52 PM
[quote ugarte]PP killed and the 1st period ends.

Impressive last PP but they couldn't cash in. Barlow almost had one but the Harvard sieve got lucky. ;)[/quote]

Barlow made it easy for him by hitting him right in the glove. :-}
Title: Re: Cornell 0 Harvard 0 (pregame)
Post by: pfibiger on February 14, 2009, 07:55:15 PM
[quote Trotsky]
Kary- Mugford- P. Kennedy
Barlow - R. Nash - Collins
Greening - Gallagher - Jillson
Scali - Punches - Nicholls
[/quote]

I'm pretty sure Joe Devin is in (on the Greening-Gallagher line) and Locke Jillson is out. The announcers mentioned he's injured. The way they discussed that the 'whole second line' was injured at one point makes me wonder if Roeszler is nursing an injury as well.
Title: Re: Cornell 0 Harvard 0 (1st)
Post by: Trotsky on February 14, 2009, 07:59:51 PM
[quote Rita]Harvard killed another one, but Cornell had a few chances after the penalty (and as the period) expired.

Anyone watching on CBSTV and catch the names of the commentators?[/quote]Matt McConnell and Steve Yarman (???).
Title: Re: Cornell 0 Harvard 0 (1st)
Post by: ACM on February 14, 2009, 08:00:10 PM
[quote Rita]Harvard killed another one, but Cornell had a few chances after the penalty (and as the period) expired.

Anyone watching on CBSTV and catch the names of the commentators?[/quote]

Dave Starman and Matt McConnell
Title: Re: Cornell 0 Harvard 0 (pregame)
Post by: Trotsky on February 14, 2009, 08:00:51 PM
[quote pfibiger][quote Trotsky]
Kary- Mugford- P. Kennedy
Barlow - R. Nash - Collins
Greening - Gallagher - Jillson
Scali - Punches - Nicholls
[/quote]

I'm pretty sure Joe Devin is in (on the Greening-Gallagher line) and Locke Jillson is out. The announcers mentioned he's injured. The way they discussed that the 'whole second line' was injured at one point makes me wonder if Roeszler is nursing an injury as well.[/quote]I think you're right, I just saw a 22.  LiveStats is wrong.
Title: Re: Cornell 0 Harvard 0 (pregame)
Post by: lynah80 on February 14, 2009, 08:00:59 PM
Thank you for taking the game thread.

It looked like the third line was Greening, Gallagher and J. Devin on the last shift.
Title: Re: Cornell 0 Harvard 0 (2nd period)
Post by: grizzdan24 on February 14, 2009, 08:01:54 PM
Another PP coming up for Cornell
Title: Re: Cornell 0 Harvard 0 (pregame)
Post by: Rita on February 14, 2009, 08:05:00 PM
Cornell negates their PP. Joe Devin in the box for 2 min for elbowing.

LGR!
Title: Re: Cornell 0 Harvard 1 (2nd)
Post by: Rita on February 14, 2009, 08:07:09 PM
Looks like it is going to be another long night.

Harvard on the PP, puck kind of slipped through Scrivens.
Title: Re: Cornell 0 Harvard 0 (2nd period)
Post by: grizzdan24 on February 14, 2009, 08:07:10 PM
Harvard PP Goal
Title: Re: Cornell 0 Harvard 1 (2nd period)
Post by: lynah80 on February 14, 2009, 08:07:49 PM
Killorn made a very tough angle shot.
Title: Re: Cornell 0 Harvard 1 (2nd period)
Post by: Dafatone on February 14, 2009, 08:10:51 PM
"Give the referee the benefit of the doubt" says an announcer.

Not when it's Feola.
Title: Re: Cornell 0 Harvard 1 (2nd period)
Post by: lynah80 on February 14, 2009, 08:11:52 PM
Harvard is playing a very physical game.
Title: Re: Cornell 1 Harvard 1 (2nd period)
Post by: Rita on February 14, 2009, 08:13:58 PM
GOAL!!!

Greening!
Title: Re: Cornell 1 Harvard 1 (2nd period)
Post by: lynah80 on February 14, 2009, 08:14:14 PM
Harvard can't clear the zone.

Greening scores.  Assists: J. Devin, Gallagher
Title: Re: Cornell 0 Harvard 1 (2nd period)
Post by: reilly83 on February 14, 2009, 08:15:21 PM
Devin gets credit from Greening & Gallagher
Title: Re: Cornell 0 Harvard 1 (2nd period)
Post by: Rita on February 14, 2009, 08:16:58 PM
The last few shifts have been great. Cornell cycling well and getting some good chances, like Kennedy who got stoned.

Cornell going back to the PP.
Title: Re: Cornell 0 Harvard 1 (2nd period)
Post by: lynah80 on February 14, 2009, 08:20:22 PM
Barlow tackles a Harvard player.  2 mins.
Title: Re: Cornell 0 Harvard 1 (2nd period)
Post by: oceanst41 on February 14, 2009, 08:21:08 PM
[quote lynah80]Barlow tackles a Harvard player.  2 mins.[/quote]

Dangerous play from Barlow, I don't like that at all.

Edit: and he pays for it 2-1 Harvard
Title: Re: Cornell 1 Harvard 2 (2nd period)
Post by: Rita on February 14, 2009, 08:21:53 PM
[quote lynah80]Barlow tackles a Harvard player.  2 mins.[/quote]

And gee, like with Devin's penalty, Harvard capitalizes on our mistakes once again. uggghhhh.

LGR!
Title: Re: Cornell 1 Harvard 2 (2nd intermission)
Post by: pat on February 14, 2009, 08:41:14 PM
"Scrivens went stick up and legs wide."

That about describes it, yeah.
Title: Re: Cornell 1 Harvard 3 (2nd intermission)
Post by: Rita on February 14, 2009, 09:00:15 PM
Brendan Nash gets his requisite 2 min in the box, and Harvard's PP burns us again.

I hope on the ride home they keep an eye out for our PK and PP units. ::help::
Title: Re: Cornell 1 Harvard 3 (3rd period)
Post by: Dafatone on February 14, 2009, 09:04:32 PM
Good to be losing with Feola.  He pretty much calls the game solely by momentum.
Title: Re: Cornell 1 Harvard 3 (3rd period)
Post by: grizzdan24 on February 14, 2009, 09:18:43 PM
GOAL!!
Title: Re: Cornell 2 Harvard 3 (3rd period)
Post by: Rita on February 14, 2009, 09:19:38 PM
Greening!!

Break out the rolaids for the last 3:30.

LGR!
Title: Re: Cornell 2 Harvard 3 (3rd period)
Post by: Rita on February 14, 2009, 09:23:40 PM
Penalties, Penalties, Penalties.

Greening, 2 minutes, hitting from behind.
Title: Re: Cornell 2 Harvard 4 (3rd period)
Post by: Rita on February 14, 2009, 09:24:46 PM
ENG.

:-(
Title: Re: Cornell 2 Harvard 4 (Final)
Post by: lynah80 on February 14, 2009, 09:34:33 PM
I think Cornell out skated Harvard.  They just didn't get the key shots to go in.  In addition to his two goals, Greening had two near goals.   They need another guy on the ice who can finish, e.g. M. Kennedy.

Shots:
Harvard - 24
Cornell - 44

The power play is a big problem.  The first unit is on the ice too much, which is understandable given the lack of a strong second unit that can score.  There seems to be a lack of "surprise" in the PP.

On the other hand, Harvard's power play was impressive.  They moved the puck very quickly and were taking good shots from very close to the net.  All 4 of their goals were from the PP (4/6).  Their PP is 15th in the nation.  I think Donato deserves credit for that.  

Some of the Cornell guys aren't skating agressively, which makes me wonder how healthy they are at this late point in the season.  Harvard seemed to be playing a more physical game than they normally do.  I'm sure that didn't help the Big Red.

Jordan Kary looked better tonight.  They could use his help.

I didn't see Joe Scali on the ice very much.  Maybe he isn't 100% recovered yet.

I think things will go better next weekend in Ithaca.
Title: Re: Cornell 2 Harvard 4 (3rd period)
Post by: Dafatone on February 14, 2009, 09:37:20 PM
[quote lynah80]I think Cornell out skated Harvard.  They just didn't get the key shots to go in.  In addition to his two goals, Greening had two near goals.  They need another guy on the ice who can finish, e.g. M. Kennedy.

Some of the guys on the team aren't skating agressively, which makes me wonder how healthy they are at this late point in the season.  

Jordan Kary looked better tonight.  They could use his help.[/quote]

We're just banged up.  If we get back to full strength, I like this team.
Title: Re: Cornell 2 Harvard 4 (3rd period)
Post by: ithacat on February 14, 2009, 09:48:03 PM
[quote Dafatone]We're just banged up.  If we get back to full strength, I like this team.[/quote]

Too bad time's running out...It's hard to imagine that in a few weeks this team has gone from a possible #1 seed to possibly playing themselves out the tournament.
Title: Re: Cornell 2 Harvard 4 (3rd period)
Post by: billhoward on February 14, 2009, 10:17:17 PM
[quote ithacat][quote Dafatone]We're just banged up.  If we get back to full strength, I like this team.[/quote]

Too bad time's running out...It's hard to imagine that in a few weeks this team has gone from a possible #1 seed to possibly playing themselves out the tournament.[/quote]

... even as the TV announcers at the intermission project Cornell as a 1-seed in the West. How many games we have to lose to not be a likely top seed? After Harvard, we're probably the projected 1-seed in the Guam regional.

At least that's what I think they said. Try finding a sports bar in Lynchburg, Virginia, that was willing to turn over the smallest of its three dozen TVs to college hockey ... getting sound also was too much to ask.
Title: Re: Cornell 2 Harvard 4 (3rd period)
Post by: Dafatone on February 15, 2009, 03:25:48 AM
[quote ithacat][quote Dafatone]We're just banged up.  If we get back to full strength, I like this team.[/quote]

Too bad time's running out...It's hard to imagine that in a few weeks this team has gone from a possible #1 seed to possibly playing themselves out the tournament.[/quote]

I haven't been able to watch most games, but it seems to me that we're missing at least a few key players.

Add in the lack of good bounces today, and I think we have an explanation.  Of course, if we don't get healthy, then "Oh, it's just injuries!" isn't very comforting.
Title: Re: Cornell 2 Harvard 4 (3rd period)
Post by: billhoward on February 15, 2009, 08:24:17 AM
For now, I'm satisfied with the "injuries to key players even if it's not Greening, Nash, or Scrivens" logic. Too bad there isn't a TBRW page showing scoring by Cornell by first second third fourth line back to the Harkness era. It seems more of Cornell's game depends on balance.

Seeing the replays, it's clear that Greening made a mistake on a couple rebounds when he failed to aim closer for the pipe and instead hit the goalie's leg pads. I of course would have paused the game, adjusted the controller to aim closer to the corner of the net, restarted the game, shot, and probably scored. So, you wonder: Why can't Greening do that, too, only in real time?
Title: Re: Cornell 2 Harvard 4 (3rd period)
Post by: Dafatone on February 15, 2009, 12:24:42 PM
[quote billhoward]For now, I'm satisfied with the "injuries to key players even if it's not Greening, Nash, or Scrivens" logic. Too bad there isn't a TBRW page showing scoring by Cornell by first second third fourth line back to the Harkness era. It seems more of Cornell's game depends on balance.

Seeing the replays, it's clear that Greening made a mistake on a couple rebounds when he failed to aim closer for the pipe and instead hit the goalie's leg pads. I of course would have paused the game, adjusted the controller to aim closer to the corner of the net, restarted the game, shot, and probably scored. So, you wonder: Why can't Greening do that, too, only in real time?[/quote]

There was one in particular where he was right in front of the net and had the entire right side open, and happened to shoot pretty much right at the middle of the goal.  I remember thinking, "gee, that happens to me all the time in nhl '08, because I suck at shooting."

Oh well.