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Title: CU-SLU(t) Postgame
Post by: Jim Hyla on January 31, 2009, 01:46:13 AM
Quote from: HockeyManbillhoward
    This game doesn't deserve a postgame thread.


On the contrary, I would like precisely such a thread after a night like this. Could someone who saw it give us at least a paragraph on what happened?

We stunk. Not an 8-1 stinking, but we stunk. Our defense broke down in multiple aspects. We had our traditional break-out problems. That was especially true when they put 2 in against us. I don't remember how many goals were a pass right out front of our goalie and an easy unobstructed goal, but at least 2. some of their goals were marginally flukey, but that's not the reason we lost, we just played terrible defense for 2 periods. Although we gave up goals in the third, we were pressing on offense so that can happen.

We deserved to lose, but the officiating was atrocious. I'd be interested in how they said it over the air, but the refs never had control. Some of the penalties should have been noncalls.  Riley Nash's at the end was a good example. The SLU player lost his edge and Riley had him from behind. No way did he cause him to fall.

Another was when we pulled Garman, they blew the whistle for too many men on us. Opps, they had to have a center ice face-off, but the idea of jumping on and surprising SLU was then lost. The initial too many men call in the third was also hysterical. They called a penalty, then all huddled at the penalty box, announced the call; then I think we objected, they huddled at the penalty box again and announced no call.

In the first when our player was injured, sorry I forgot who, they huddled and no one could find a penalty to call. However seconds after the play resumed there was a call against SLU. A makeup.

So, I guess you could say 2 of the 3 teams on the ice were terrible.

After tonight I think I'm going to have to stop complaining about swearing at games. :) It was so poorly officiated that I couldn't contain myself. Not that the calls determined the outcome, but just a very poorly officiated game. I also had a good time adding the t to their cheer. I don't usually like doing that, but they are so blatant about their playing of their drum during play, I just had to do it. :) This is a routine with them at home and I wish the league would do something about it. I complained to the SLU officials last year, to no avail. At least if they get to Albany they won't be allowed to do it, and that's why a SLU crowd never has the enthusiasm shown by other schools. Hell, even Harvard has a pep band to bring to the first game at Albany. Even if they never show up the second night, regardless if they're in the finals or not.

So, all in all, a very unsatisfactory night. Not to take anything away from the SLU team, but the refs really made it a tough game to watch.  

Oh, one more thing. I should have known it was going to be a bad night when at 6PM I bought a "program" and sat down to read it. They had the Cornell and Colgate lineups in correctly, but the whole description of the weekend was about RPI and Union starting a 4 game homestand for SLU(t). Obviously the printer put last weeks (or is it week's) writeup in this weeks program. Good proofreading guys.
Title: Re: CU-SLU(t) Postgame
Post by: French Rage on January 31, 2009, 03:42:59 AM
Well, what happened was, that second period, we got our ass kicked. In the second period, we just got our ass totally kicked. We couldn't do diddly poo offensively, we couldn't make a hit, we couldn't pass the puck, we didn't try to pass the puck, we couldn't complete a shot - we sucked. The second period, we sucked. We couldn't stop them. Every time they got the puck, they went down and got a goal. We got our ass totally kicked in the second period - that's what it boiled down to. It was a horseshit performance in the second period. Horseshit. I'm totally embarrassed and totally ashamed. Coaching did a horrible job. The players did a horrible job. We got our ass kicked in that second period. It sucked. It stunk.

What's that? Uh -- NCAAs? Don't talk about -- NCAAs? You kidding me? NCAAs? I just hope we can win a game! Another game.

:-P
Title: Re: CU-SLU(t) Postgame
Post by: andyw2100 on January 31, 2009, 06:14:25 AM
But how'd we play in the second period?
Title: Re: CU-SLU(t) Postgame
Post by: ugarte on January 31, 2009, 07:57:26 AM
[quote Jim Mora]Well, what happened was, that second period, we got our ass kicked. In the second period, we just got our ass totally kicked. We couldn't do diddly poo offensively, we couldn't make a hit, we couldn't pass the puck, we didn't try to pass the puck, we couldn't complete a shot - we sucked. The second period, we sucked. We couldn't stop them. Every time they got the puck, they went down and got a goal. We got our ass totally kicked in the second period - that's what it boiled down to. It was a horseshit performance in the second period. Horseshit. I'm totally embarrassed and totally ashamed. Coaching did a horrible job. The players did a horrible job. We got our ass kicked in that second period. It sucked. It stunk.

What's that? Uh -- NCAAs? Don't talk about -- NCAAs? You kidding me? NCAAs? I just hope we can win a game! Another game.
[/quote]
FYP
Title: Re: CU-SLU(t) Postgame
Post by: Johnny 5 on January 31, 2009, 09:12:52 AM
Really.

After the 4th SLU goal I turned off b2. I was so depressed I actually watched a Jane Austen movie with my wife.

And, I've decided to never again wear my white CU hockey hat during a game.
I wore it for the first time against Yale. Shoulda known. It's back to the red CCM hat for me.

Let's hope it works tonight.

Oh, and...screw BU.

::rock::
Title: Re: CU-SLU(t) Postgame
Post by: Jim Hyla on January 31, 2009, 09:46:09 AM
[quote Johnny 5]Really.

After the 4th SLU goal I turned off b2. I was so depressed I actually watched a Jane Austen movie with my wife.

And, I've decided to never again wear my white CU hockey hat during a game.
I wore it for the first time against Yale. Shoulda known. It's back to the red CCM hat for me.

Let's hope it works tonight.

Oh, and...screw BU.

::rock::[/quote]Thanks, we needed a reason. Now we can play to win again.**]
Title: Re: CU-SLU(t) Postgame
Post by: lynah80 on January 31, 2009, 10:38:43 AM
The team will adjust.  They came back strongly after the loss to N. Dakota.  They can do it again.
Title: Re: CU-SLU(t) Postgame
Post by: HeafDog on January 31, 2009, 11:35:10 AM
[quote French Rage]What's that? Uh -- NCAAs? Don't talk about -- NCAAs? You kidding me? NCAAs? I just hope we can win a game! Another game.
[/quote]

(http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y194/Zoelef/motivator5221526.jpg)
Title: Re: CU-SLU(t) Postgame
Post by: Oat on January 31, 2009, 11:52:07 AM
Our story didn't make the front page on USCHO. That article talks about every upset that happened in college hockey last night, except for our game vs St.Lawrence.
Title: Re: CU-SLU(t) Postgame
Post by: David Harding on January 31, 2009, 02:40:22 PM
[quote Johnny 5]
And, I've decided to never again wear my white CU hockey hat during a game.
I wore it for the first time against Yale. Shoulda known. It's back to the red CCM hat for me.

Let's hope it works tonight.
[/quote]Maybe the team will be changing their rituals and superstitions (http://www.theithacajournal.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=2009901300342), too.
Title: Re: CU-SLU(t) Postgame
Post by: Johnny 5 on January 31, 2009, 04:10:36 PM
[quote David Harding][quote Johnny 5]
And, I've decided to never again wear my white CU hockey hat during a game.
I wore it for the first time against Yale. Shoulda known. It's back to the red CCM hat for me.

Let's hope it works tonight.
[/quote]Maybe the team will be changing their rituals and superstitions (http://www.theithacajournal.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=2009901300342), too.[/quote]

I only wish we were at home tonight.

Many years ago we were down by a good 4 (?) goals late in the third period. Let's say it was against Clarkson. Disgusted, my wife & I left for our 45 minute ride home. Well, CU came back & won. Thereafter, a tradition emerged.

If CU was losing, with around 5 minutes left, we would head home. And, in the vast majority of instances Cornell either came back to tie or win; the alternative being also true. The recent Yale game was a notable exception. CU scored, but only once. I think we left too late??

Anyhow, it has become such a known factor in our section that, if Cornell is behind, the ticket attendant will actually come down the aisle to tell me it's time to go home. (At least I think that's the reason?)

Sorry. No such scientific data regarding away games.

Like I said, I wish this was a home game.

::drive::
Title: Re: CU-SLU(t) Postgame
Post by: TimV on January 31, 2009, 04:21:06 PM
[quote Johnny 5]And, in the vast majority of instances Cornell either came back to tie or win; the alternative being also true.[/quote]

::wtf::Say what???::wtf::
Title: Re: CU-SLU(t) Postgame
Post by: Johnny 5 on January 31, 2009, 09:30:18 PM
[quote TimV][quote Johnny 5]And, in the vast majority of instances Cornell either came back to tie or win; the alternative being also true.[/quote]

::wtf::Say what???::wtf::[/quote]

Exactly!!

;-)
Title: Re: CU-SLU(t) Postgame
Post by: ugarte on January 31, 2009, 11:15:59 PM
[quote TimV][quote Johnny 5]And, in the vast majority of instances Cornell either came back to tie or win; the alternative being also true.[/quote]

::wtf::Say what???::wtf::[/quote]
If they stayed, Cornell usually lost.
Title: Re: CU-SLU(t) Postgame
Post by: ebilmes on February 01, 2009, 01:59:50 AM
After the too many men mixup in the 3rd, Schafer actually jumped onto the boards between the Cornell bench and the ice in order to more dramatically yell at the officials.

I agree completely with Jim's feeling that the game wasn't in control. The officials let things get out of hand, then tried to make up for it by calling phantom penalties.

I wonder if when faced with an aggressive two-man forecheck at the start of the game, the team panicked a little, thinking it would be a repeat of Yale. The first goal probably eroded the confidence a little more, so that even when SLUt went back to a less aggressive forecheck, we didn't feel like we could win.

Interesting the B.Nash was back in the starting lineup tonight after being ejected by Schafer last night.
Title: Re: CU-SLU(t) Postgame
Post by: Chris '03 on February 01, 2009, 09:51:52 AM
[quote ebilmes]

Interesting the B.Nash was back in the starting lineup tonight after being ejected by Schafer last night.[/quote]

Who was going to play in his place? You can only travel with so many players.
Title: Re: CU-SLU(t) Postgame
Post by: ebilmes on February 01, 2009, 11:58:07 AM
[quote Chris '03][quote ebilmes]

Interesting the B.Nash was back in the starting lineup tonight after being ejected by Schafer last night.[/quote]

Who was going to play in his place? You can only travel with so many players.[/quote]

I wasn't surprised he was playing, but rather that the Devin-Nash pairing started.
Title: Re: CU-SLU(t) Postgame
Post by: CowbellGuy on February 02, 2009, 01:12:21 PM
[quote ebilmes]Interesting the B.Nash was back in the starting lineup tonight after being ejected by Schafer last night.[/quote]
And from whence did this nugget of information come?
Title: Re: CU-SLU(t) Postgame
Post by: ugarte on February 02, 2009, 01:23:22 PM
[quote CowbellGuy][quote ebilmes]Interesting the B.Nash was back in the starting lineup tonight after being ejected by Schafer last night.[/quote]
And from whence did this nugget of information come?[/quote]
IIRC, ebilmes posted a recap of watching Schafer order Nash to the locker room in the game thread.
Title: Re: CU-SLU(t) Postgame
Post by: Jim Hyla on February 02, 2009, 01:31:35 PM
[quote ugarte][quote CowbellGuy][quote ebilmes]Interesting the B.Nash was back in the starting lineup tonight after being ejected by Schafer last night.[/quote]
And from whence did this nugget of information come?[/quote]
IIRC, ebilmes posted a recap of watching Schafer order Nash to the locker room in the game thread.[/quote]Yeah, I think it was at the 8:01 mark when there were all the misconducts and those players were sent to the dressing room. I saw B. Nash come off the ice and go to the locker room. He did not have a penalty, nor look hurt; and it was then that I was told Schafer motioned for him to get off the ice and go to lockers. I never saw it myself, but there was no other obvious reason for him to leave.
Title: Re: CU-SLU(t) Postgame
Post by: ebilmes on February 02, 2009, 08:57:51 PM
[quote CowbellGuy][quote ebilmes]Interesting the B.Nash was back in the starting lineup tonight after being ejected by Schafer last night.[/quote]
And from whence did this nugget of information come?[/quote]

I don't know what else it could have been. I'm definitely open to hearing another account of it.
Title: Re: CU-SLU(t) Postgame
Post by: Tom Tone on February 02, 2009, 09:06:18 PM
He swore and Athletics kicked him out.
Title: Re: CU-SLU(t) Postgame
Post by: CowbellGuy on February 02, 2009, 09:48:26 PM
Well, I didn't see it, only listened. I thought perhaps by that point the game had gotten out of hand and Schafer didn't want to risk any more injured defensemen.
Title: Re: CU-SLU(t) Postgame
Post by: Al DeFlorio on February 02, 2009, 11:36:16 PM
[quote CowbellGuy]Well, I didn't see it, only listened. I thought perhaps by that point the game had gotten out of hand and Schafer didn't want to risk any more injured defensemen.[/quote]
Or having him do something stupid and therefore sit out the Clarkson game.