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General Category => Hockey => Topic started by: sah67 on January 30, 2009, 12:48:26 AM

Title: "Men's Hockey Rejects Policy of Payback"
Post by: sah67 on January 30, 2009, 12:48:26 AM
Schafer and the players make it clear in this article from today's Sun that they're not out for Burgdoerfer's head when RPI visits Lynah in February...just in case any RPI fans are still obsessing over Schafer's post-game "threat":

http://cornellsun.com/section/sports/content/2009/01/29/m-hockey-rejects-policy-payback

Also note the continued proliferation of false statements gleaned from internet message boards, particularly in regards to our "top powerplay unit" being on the ice at the end of the game ;)
Title: Re: "Men's Hockey Rejects Policy of Payback"
Post by: ebilmes on January 30, 2009, 02:17:52 AM
I thought the article was interesting because it paints a completely different view of the situation from Brandon Thomas' column from last week.

http://www.theithacajournal.com/article/20090121/SPORTS/901210323

Schafer went from labeling Burgdoerfer a marked man to sounding downright sympathetic to his situation.

Guess we'll have to wait until Feb. 20 to find out.
Title: Re: "Men's Hockey Rejects Policy of Payback"
Post by: lynah80 on January 30, 2009, 04:49:27 AM
By making the statement that he did, Schafer helps the Big Red a lot.  If he had said anything vindictive, the refs would be more likely to call penalties against Cornell to protect Burgdoefer and to keep the game under control.  Consider what happened in Michigan last week.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fI-sYE1DsMs
Title: Re: "Men's Hockey Rejects Policy of Payback"
Post by: Trotsky on January 30, 2009, 08:00:52 AM
Schafer has already taken this tone in pre-game interviews with Jason.
Title: Re: "Men's Hockey Rejects Policy of Payback"
Post by: JasonN95 on January 30, 2009, 09:56:58 AM
[quote lynah80]By making the statement that he did, Schafer helps the Big Red a lot.  If he had said anything vindictive, the refs would be more likely to call penalties against Cornell to protect Burgdoefer and to keep the game under control.  Consider what happened in Michigan last week.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fI-sYE1DsMs[/quote]

Yikes, that was ugly. At full speed, it looks like the check might've been knee-on-knee (although when you watch the slow-mo replay, I don't think it is), which I assume is what riled up the MSU players. The sucker punch was bad; the slash to the head/torso by Tropp while the Mich guy lay on the ice was worse. Can someone save me the hassle of looking up what the aftermath was and tell my what sort of penalties/suspensions the MSU players got?
Title: Re: "Men's Hockey Rejects Policy of Payback"
Post by: Jordan 04 on January 30, 2009, 10:07:28 AM
Is it possible that the league had a word with Schafer after his post-game comments at RPI, which caused him to change his tune (at least publicly)?
Title: Re: "Men's Hockey Rejects Policy of Payback"
Post by: RichH on January 30, 2009, 10:13:21 AM
[quote JasonN95]Can someone save me the hassle of looking up what the aftermath was and tell my what sort of penalties/suspensions the MSU players got?[/quote]

No.  It should be easy to find yourself.  :-D
Title: Re: "Men's Hockey Rejects Policy of Payback"
Post by: mnagowski on January 30, 2009, 10:35:55 AM
So a colleague of mine played hockey for RPI maybe 15 years ago and is friendly with the team/coaches. He claims that RPI is claiming that Cornell left an "aggressive" note in the locker room upon leaving after the game.

Heresy. I know. But it srikes me as totally uncharacteristic of this team.
Title: Re: "Men's Hockey Rejects Policy of Payback"
Post by: ugarte on January 30, 2009, 10:45:39 AM
[quote RichH][quote JasonN95]Can someone save me the hassle of looking up what the aftermath was and tell my what sort of penalties/suspensions the MSU players got?[/quote]

No.  It should be easy to find yourself.  :-D[/quote]
Here you go (http://google.com).
Title: Re: "Men's Hockey Rejects Policy of Payback"
Post by: Beeeej on January 30, 2009, 10:54:57 AM
[quote ugarte][quote RichH][quote JasonN95]Can someone save me the hassle of looking up what the aftermath was and tell my what sort of penalties/suspensions the MSU players got?[/quote]

No.  It should be easy to find yourself.  :-D[/quote]
Here you go (http://google.com).[/quote]

That's just mean, ugarte.

Here's a genuinely helpful link (http://tinyurl.com/bjzezk).
Title: Re: "Men's Hockey Rejects Policy of Payback"
Post by: JasonN95 on January 30, 2009, 11:42:52 AM
*Everybody* is a comedian. Don't quit your day jobs, people. :-P
Title: Michigan St. vs. Michigan
Post by: lynah80 on January 30, 2009, 11:43:05 AM
Both Michigan St. players were kicked off the team for the rest of the season.  One of them dropped out of school.

http://www.collegehockeynews.com/news/2009/01/26_msususpends.php

http://www.collegehockeynews.com/news/2009/01/27_conboy.php
Title: Re: "Men's Hockey Rejects Policy of Payback"
Post by: Josh '99 on January 30, 2009, 12:33:54 PM
[quote Beeeej][quote ugarte][quote RichH][quote JasonN95]Can someone save me the hassle of looking up what the aftermath was and tell my what sort of penalties/suspensions the MSU players got?[/quote]

No.  It should be easy to find yourself.  :-D[/quote]
Here you go (http://google.com).[/quote]

That's just mean, ugarte.

Here's a genuinely helpful link (http://tinyurl.com/bjzezk).[/quote]Alternately, he might find this (http://tinyurl.com/2w4apm) to be useful.
Title: Re: "Men's Hockey Rejects Policy of Payback"
Post by: ursusminor on January 30, 2009, 12:37:52 PM
Troy Record article http://www.troyrecord.com/articles/2009/01/28/sports/doc49813ff48815a194498421.txt discussing both the author's and ECAC Director of Officials Paul Stewart's takes on Burgdoerfer's penalty and ECAC officiating.
Title: Re: "Men's Hockey Rejects Policy of Payback"
Post by: Josh '99 on January 30, 2009, 12:46:31 PM
[quote ursusminor]Troy Record article http://www.troyrecord.com/articles/2009/01/28/sports/doc49813ff48815a194498421.txt discussing both the author's and ECAC Director of Officials Paul Stewart's takes on Burgdoerfer's penalty and ECAC officiating.[/quote]I'm just shocked, SHOCKED, that a sports writer for RPI's local newspaper disagrees with the suspension.
Title: Re: "Men's Hockey Rejects Policy of Payback"
Post by: imafrshmn on January 30, 2009, 12:51:54 PM
[quote ursusminor]Troy Record article http://www.troyrecord.com/articles/2009/01/28/sports/doc49813ff48815a194498421.txt discussing both the author's and ECAC Director of Officials Paul Stewart's takes on Burgdoerfer's penalty and ECAC officiating.[/quote]

Strange article.  The title is "ECACH Erred in Burgdoerfer Suspension," yet Paul Stewart fully endorsed it.  The author reaches his conclusion, "flatly, the ECACH erred in tacking on a two-game suspension to Burgdoerfer's infraction," by way of some shoddy reasoning.
Title: Re: "Men's Hockey Rejects Policy of Payback"
Post by: ursusminor on January 30, 2009, 12:52:10 PM
[quote Josh '99][quote ursusminor]Troy Record article http://www.troyrecord.com/articles/2009/01/28/sports/doc49813ff48815a194498421.txt discussing both the author's and ECAC Director of Officials Paul Stewart's takes on Burgdoerfer's penalty and ECAC officiating.[/quote]I'm just shocked, SHOCKED, that a sports writer for RPI's local newspaper disagrees with the suspension.[/quote] I am shocked that a Cornell alum is shocked. ::whistle::
Title: Re: "Men's Hockey Rejects Policy of Payback"
Post by: ben03 on January 30, 2009, 12:53:08 PM
that was nasty ... like Patty Roy and the Québec Remparts nasty. very happy to hear the UM player is okay and the MSU coach came down hard and fast on his players. here's hoping we won't see anything like this in our games in the foreseeable future.

... and Burgdoerfer is still a goon.
Title: Re: "Men's Hockey Rejects Policy of Payback"
Post by: RatushnyFan on January 30, 2009, 01:03:13 PM
I've been following the UM/MSU situation (went to grad school @ UM)............the Michigan kid who got jacked up was the same kid who got body slammed by a football player and broke a few vertebrae.  Apparently his father went into the visitors locker room and was about to get into it with one of the MSU "assailants" who had been booted from the game.  It was a bad situation all around.

I don't think an eye for an eye works well in college hockey, or really any level of hockey.  Ask Todd Bertuzzi.  I think that intentionally trying to hurt somebody is disgusting.  In my mind, it's the coaching staff's duty to try to calm everyone down and keep a level head.  Clean hits, ok.  No problem with that.
Title: Re: "Men's Hockey Rejects Policy of Payback"
Post by: JasonN95 on January 30, 2009, 01:33:59 PM
See now, that was useful. I've been looking for some new dance moves.
Title: Re: "Men's Hockey Rejects Policy of Payback"
Post by: Jim Hyla on January 30, 2009, 02:02:02 PM
Quote from: Troy RecordIt just seems apparent that had Burgdoerfer not accumulated 57 penalty minutes prior to the Cornell-RPI game, hadn't had a major and game misconduct penalty one night earlier and hadn't slashed a Cornell player seconds before the hit on Davenport,...


And, flatly, the ECACH erred in tacking on a two-game suspension to Burgdoerfer's infraction.
No, he's just sweet as can be.
Title: Re: "Men's Hockey Rejects Policy of Payback"
Post by: Josh '99 on January 30, 2009, 02:17:45 PM
[quote ursusminor][quote Josh '99][quote ursusminor]Troy Record article http://www.troyrecord.com/articles/2009/01/28/sports/doc49813ff48815a194498421.txt discussing both the author's and ECAC Director of Officials Paul Stewart's takes on Burgdoerfer's penalty and ECAC officiating.[/quote]I'm just shocked, SHOCKED, that a sports writer for RPI's local newspaper disagrees with the suspension.[/quote] I am shocked that a Cornell alum is shocked. ::whistle::[/quote]Well I'm shocked that you're shocked that I'm shocked.  :-D
Title: Re: "Men's Hockey Rejects Policy of Payback"
Post by: ursusminor on January 30, 2009, 02:24:26 PM
[quote Josh '99][quote ursusminor][quote Josh '99][quote ursusminor]Troy Record article http://www.troyrecord.com/articles/2009/01/28/sports/doc49813ff48815a194498421.txt discussing both the author's and ECAC Director of Officials Paul Stewart's takes on Burgdoerfer's penalty and ECAC officiating.[/quote]I'm just shocked, SHOCKED, that a sports writer for RPI's local newspaper disagrees with the suspension.[/quote] I am shocked that a Cornell alum is shocked. ::whistle::[/quote]Well I'm shocked that you're shocked that I'm shocked.  :-D[/quote]
Shocking! :-P
Title: Re: "Men's Hockey Rejects Policy of Payback"
Post by: marty on January 30, 2009, 03:20:34 PM
The team didn't retaliate for the Scali hit last year.  There were some threats yelled across the ice in Troy after that hit but if they did anything at Lynah it surely wasn't obvious.

I was hopeful that the same restraint would rule this year. We'll all be watching.
Title: Re: "Men's Hockey Rejects Policy of Payback"
Post by: RedAndBlue'08 on January 30, 2009, 07:25:40 PM
Just an update from Michigan.  Kampfer (guy who got taken down) is doing ok with just a sore neck the next day.  Tropp and Conboy are both off the team, and I believe both now have dropped out of school.  There is a possibility of them re-enrolling next year.

Kampfer just had a day in court regarding the football player that assaulted him resulting in his earlier skull fracture.  They're investigating the on-ice incident to decide if charges will be pressed.

After Kampfer went down his father broke into MSU's locker room to confront Conboy.  I don't think much will come of it but he has been banned from most athletic buildings on campus.

Kampfer may play this weekend.  They're taking on Notre Dame today so they'll need all the help they can get.
Title: Re: "Men's Hockey Rejects Policy of Payback"
Post by: Roy 82 on January 30, 2009, 08:18:56 PM
[quote RedAndBlue'08]Just an update from Michigan.  Kampfer (guy who got taken down) is doing ok with just a sore neck the next day.  Tropp and Conboy are both off the team, and I believe both now have dropped out of school.  There is a possibility of them re-enrolling next year.

Kampfer just had a day in court regarding the football player that assaulted him resulting in his earlier skull fracture.  They're investigating the on-ice incident to decide if charges will be pressed.

After Kampfer went down his father broke into MSU's locker room to confront Conboy.  I don't think much will come of it but he has been banned from most athletic buildings on campus.

Kampfer may play this weekend.  They're taking on Notre Dame today so they'll need all the help they can get.[/quote]

What?

(Sorry. Never mind. Now I see all of the previous messages talking about this incident)