Cornell (8-8-2, 4-5-2) is playing a very good game this afternoon against RPI (11-8-3, 6-3-2) at Lynah, leading 3-1 midway through the 3rd. Cathy White (#20) scored the third goal on a gorgeous end-to-end rush.
Cornell survives RPI's full court press down the stretch to win 3-2, for a 4-point weekend. The win puts them at .500 in conference (http://www.ecachockey.com/women/2008-09/standings). RPI was a team in the upper bracket, so maybe this indicates that Cornell is starting to make a move.
RPI has only been D-I for a few years, and is probably the weakest of the teams ahead of Cornell in the standings. It's still a good win, but I would not be surprised to see Cornell finish ahead of RPI when all is said and done.
The North Country trip was more impressive to me. 3 points from Clarkson and SLU is a great outcome in women's hockey these days. Clarkson's fairly strong, and including the Cornell draw SLU is 11-1-1 at home this year.
Looking at the results, it seems like Cornell plays just about everyone close. The team's apparently quite young, and has a lot of talent in the freshman and sophomore classes, so they may well be hitting their stride after an inconsistent start to the season.
One additional note - there seems to be far more parity in women's hockey this year than there has been in quite some time. It used to be that you could pick the outcomes of 90% of the games before the season even started.
The one anomaly to parity has to be the Union Women's team.
Over the past six seasons, they have amassed a total of 5 points ( 1 win and 3 ties). Their last league win was a 4-0 drubbing of us in Feb. of 2003. I understand the importance of having an equal number of men's and women's sports but it's clear that they need to consider a move to a different conference or D-III.
However, it is nice to see both Cornell goalies win ECAC Goalie of the Week
I spent too much time on the RPI thread on USCHO so I gotta ask:
Are the women also a bunch of clutch-and-grab dive-taking boring no-respect-deserving whiners?::nut::;-):-}
[quote Tom Lento]RPI has only been D-I for a few years, and is probably the weakest of the teams ahead of Cornell in the standings. It's still a good win, but I would not be surprised to see Cornell finish ahead of RPI when all is said and done.[/quote]I was judging them by the Parcells-Biafra Standard: you are what your record says you are.
Another thing about watching the last game. Not to put too fine a point on it, but a decade ago watching ECAC women's hockey in general and Cornell women's hockey in particular was about as exciting as watching people shovel a driveway. Now the players are far faster, more skilled, and more creative. It looks kind of like hockey (except for the tortured maneuvers the players have to go through to avoid, you know, checking). It was fun.
[quote Trotsky]Another thing about watching the last game. Not to put too fine a point on it, but a decade ago watching ECAC women's hockey in general and Cornell women's hockey in particular was about as exciting as watching people shovel a driveway. Now the players are far faster, more skilled, and more creative. It looks kind of like hockey (except for the tortured maneuvers the players have to go through to avoid, you know, checking). It was fun.[/quote]
What is the stated reason for keeping checking out of women's college hockey? Does anyone know?
Because they prefer credit cards?**]
[quote Section A Banshee][quote Trotsky]Another thing about watching the last game. Not to put too fine a point on it, but a decade ago watching ECAC women's hockey in general and Cornell women's hockey in particular was about as exciting as watching people shovel a driveway. Now the players are far faster, more skilled, and more creative. It looks kind of like hockey (except for the tortured maneuvers the players have to go through to avoid, you know, checking). It was fun.[/quote]
What is the stated reason for keeping checking out of women's college hockey? Does anyone know?[/quote]
I would imagine the original rationale comes from an earlier time when people felt the "fairer" sex couldn't handle the physical game. Once the rules are set in place they have inertia and it takes effort to change them. For everyone who thinks that the lack of checking is silly ("tortured maneuvers" is right) there's probably someone who thinks hockey is better without the physical aspect. There isn't consensus to change so it stays.
But it does seem odd that in a time where any suggestion that men and women aren't completely equal is met with angry opposition form some quarters we still have different rules for sports. Don't even get me started on softball vs. baseball.
I've had a chance to ask a couple of the players on the women's team what they think of No Checking, and their response was that having grown up playing with boys, with physicality, they would like to have checking.
speaking of Cornell women's hockey and recruiting
QuoteIf you aren't familiar with Brigette Lacquette, you should be.
Scouts are raving about this 16-year-old Manitoban.
Lacquette is astonishing them by thoroughly outplaying male opponents in the Western Manitoba AA Midget Hockey League. She is her league's top talent. She was the youngest player at the recent World Under-18 women's hockey championship in Germany and was chosen best defenceman.
"Several scouts have told me that, if Brigette continues in the direction she's going, she'll be the greatest female hockey player in Canadian history," said Scott Taylor, sports editor of Grass Roots News, Manitoba's Aboriginal newspaper. "She's one of the few players I've seen who can do everything all game with her head up. She's so fast that she flies by opponents. And she's a great playmaker."
Still, dozens of universities -- including Cornell, Providence, Minnesota and North Dakota -- have found Brigette and are bombarding her with expressions of interest.
http://www.metronews.ca/edmonton/sports/article/171039
[quote KeithK]What is the
stated reason for keeping checking out of women's college hockey? Does anyone know?[/quote]
I found this on the internets, so... you know... but it seems plausible.
QuoteWhen international Women's hockey started there WAS body checking. They quickly changed the rules after the first Women's World Hockey Championship in 1990. There is a huge gap between Canada/US and the rest of the world. Canada just ran over and other teams. Even the Swedish and Finish teams lack the size and strength. No contact doesn't help that much, 9 world championships and Canada is 8 gold and 1 silver while the US is 1 gold and 8 silver. But it is something there to try increase world wide popularity of the sport.
The other thing that springs to mind is it makes insurance cheaper. If men's hockey removed checking, attendance would drop to zero and the schools would take a revenue hit. Women's hockey doesn't generate any revenue, so they may as well deliver it as cheaply as Title IX will allow.
Sounds like a plausible explanation. Even if the removal of checking wouldn't help the other women's teams compete with Canada it would have helped reduce the chances of injury. Even if I knew how to take a check I don't think I'd want to play full contact hockey against a varsity level player. It would be painful.
[quote Trotsky]
Tf men's hockey removed checking, attendance would drop to zero and the schools would take a revenue hit. [/quote]
In ancient times, i.e. my era, the rule in men's hockey was "no checking in the offensive zone." We had no trouble filling the rink. Ned's teams forechecked relentlessly; they just couldn't use the body.
Any word on how recruiting for 09-10 is going? Cornell is the only women's team with no posted recruits on USCHO.com.
[quote mattj711]Any word on how recruiting for 09-10 is going? Cornell is the only women's team with no posted recruits on USCHO.com.[/quote]
http://www.beyondthedashers.com/files/Commitments/09-10/09-10_Team_Listing.pdf lists Katie Allen, a defensive player from Red Deer as heading to East Hill. Allen was a member of Alberta's Under-18 team. The source of that news may have come from this article: http://www.albertahockey.com/story.aspx?c=15&id=1140
I think this was discussed on USCHO and the keeper of the list determined that Allen's commitment was unconfirmed.
The team only loses 3 players next season, still the news is pretty sparse.
The women beat Clarkson 4-1 at Lynah this afternoon. Catherine White should be paying me -- every time I watch, she scores a goal. Rebecca Johnston went 2-1-3 and is now 17-15-32 in 18 games.
The Red travel to play #11 Princeton and a weak Quinnipiac next weekend, before their final Lynah RS games against the strongest ECAC pair, Harvard and #9 Dartmouth. The Dartmouth game will be a 4 p.m. start on Valentine's Day -- it would be outstanding if they got a strong crowd.
Greg
Hopefully it will be a good crowd that day, as it is
employee day. We will be there.
Doug
[quote ithacat][quote mattj711]Any word on how recruiting for 09-10 is going? Cornell is the only women's team with no posted recruits on USCHO.com.[/quote]
http://www.beyondthedashers.com/files/Commitments/09-10/09-10_Team_Listing.pdf lists Katie Allen, a defensive player from Red Deer as heading to East Hill. Allen was a member of Alberta's Under-18 team. The source of that news may have come from this article: http://www.albertahockey.com/story.aspx?c=15&id=1140
I think this was discussed on USCHO and the keeper of the list determined that Allen's commitment was unconfirmed.
The team only loses 3 players next season, still the news is pretty sparse.[/quote]
In past years the news on Cornell recruits has been pretty sparse until April/May. The Ivies tend not to release recruiting information until after the admissions cycle is complete, so you only hear about big commitments or players who have a local news story about their college plans.
Lack of big news from Cornell suggests a less impressive recruiting class than last year's, but you never know.
It appears that this recruiting class will be very impressive, just not very big (I would imagine). It was just posted on uscho.com that Laurian Rougeau has committed to the big red. She's definitely a gamer. Captain of the Canadian U-18 last season and played for the U-22 team this year. She may be the best D in this years recruiting field. I've also just heard rumors that another very high profile canadian has committed as well. Also played on the U-18 national team and would be considered one of the top 2 forwards coming out of canada this year by many people.
Last I heard, Katie Allen did not commit to the big red. That article was printed last season when current frosh Young and Ogilvie committed, but the portion stating Allen had committed was a misprint.
[quote mattj711]It appears that this recruiting class will be very impressive, just not very big (I would imagine). It was just posted on uscho.com that Laurian Rougeau has committed to the big red. She's definitely a gamer. Captain of the Canadian U-18 last season and played for the U-22 team this year. She may be the best D in this years recruiting field. I've also just heard rumors that another very high profile canadian has committed as well. Also played on the U-18 national team and would be considered one of the top 2 forwards coming out of canada this year by many people.
Last I heard, Katie Allen did not commit to the big red. That article was printed last season when current frosh Young and Ogilvie committed, but the portion stating Allen had committed was a misprint.[/quote]
Nice! Glad I was wrong with my prediction. I doubt I'll make it to any games next season, but that team should be a lot of fun to watch even if the current recruits are not as high impact as we might hope.
Thanks for the info!
[quote mattj711]It appears that this recruiting class will be very impressive, just not very big (I would imagine). It was just posted on uscho.com that Laurian Rougeau has committed to the big red. She's definitely a gamer. Captain of the Canadian U-18 last season and played for the U-22 team this year. She may be the best D in this years recruiting field. I've also just heard rumors that another very high profile canadian has committed as well. Also played on the U-18 national team and would be considered one of the top 2 forwards coming out of canada this year by many people.
Last I heard, Katie Allen did not commit to the big red. That article was printed last season when current frosh Young and Ogilvie committed, but the portion stating Allen had committed was a misprint.[/quote]
Any confirmation on Rougeau? She would be a great addition next year. As for the forward...Jenner?
Yes. The rumor mill has the forward you mentioned heading to Cornell, but since I haven't seen it substantiated I don't want to post it. The person that posted Rougeau's commitment has been pretty reliable about commitments out of Quebec in the past so I'd say that info is likely reliable.
Those two would make it a special, though small, class. Any idea why Jenner isn't playing in the PW this year?
I suspect Cornell's likely to add another forward...any more?
She is playing in the CWHL, which is the replacement of the defunct NWHL league which is comprised of mostly post collegiate hockey players and many canadian national team members. It is definitely a step up from the PWHL.
Thanks. I can't find any stats, but I see she's on Mississauga's roster (along with Shannon Moulson). Hope she's on board.
I agree! I was beginning to get a little worried that this year's class was going to be a little below my increasingly higher standards (based off the last couple of years) but that all changed over the weekend. Would I be getting to greedy to want to see Marie-Philip Poulin commit to the Big Red next?
[quote mattj711]Would I be getting to greedy to want to see Marie-Philip Poulin commit to the Big Red next?[/quote]
Absolutely not...:) Rougeau and Poulin are teammates at Dawson; Jenner and Poulin were teammates on the U18 squad...hmm.
That would be an incredible class.
Cornell settles for a tie tonight at Q, as they let a 2-0 lead slip away in the third.
[quote Trotsky]Cornell settles for a tie tonight at Q, as they let a 2-0 lead slip away in the third.[/quote]
It was a very frustrating game to watch. They started off very strong but than played they last 2 periods and much of overtime pretty apathetically.
According to the ECAC site, Cornell and Princeton have entered overtime tied 2-2. The audio link on the Cornell site isn't working and neither is live stats, so it's a matter of trust.
Edit: now a final. According to the box, Cornell withstood a 12-2 shot differential in a scoreless third, and killed off an unfortunately named "hooking" call on Cathy White in the final 2 mins of regulation, to hold on for the tie.
Mixed weekend -- get tied by a weak team, tie a a strong team, all on their ice. The Red solidify their hold on a top 8 slot (7th place) and come home to face 2nd place Harvard and 3rd place Dartmouth in a huge weekend.
[quote Trotsky]According to the ECAC site, Cornell and Princeton have entered overtime tied 2-2. The audio link on the Cornell site isn't working and neither is live stats, so it's a matter of trust.
Edit: now a final. According to the box, Cornell withstood a 12-2 shot differential in a scoreless third, and killed off an unfortunately named "hooking" call on Cathy White in the final 2 mins of regulation, to hold on for the tie.
Mixed weekend -- get tied by a weak team, tie a a strong team, all on their ice. The Red solidify their hold on a top 8 slot (7th place) and come home to face 2nd place Harvard and 3rd place Dartmouth in a huge weekend.[/quote]
A much much better performance for Cornell today against Princeton (though I missed the third period and based on the box score it was our weakest). I didn't see Karpenko's goal, but our second goal (White from Johnston) was absolutely beautiful. Defensively, we did a much better job of clearing rebounds and moving the puck out of our zone. I thought we had the edge in play over princeton the first two periods. And as you said, Princeton is a much strong team the Quinnipiac.
The Total Crap Weekend continues with the women losing to Harvard, 5-2.
4 pm start against Dartmouth, and Cornell withstands an early 5x3.
Game ends in 3-3 tie. Overall, very good effort by Cornell this weekend. Although the final score doesn't show it, Cornell out played Harvard for a good portion of yesterday's game and the same goes for Dartmouth today.
[quote mattj711]Game ends in 3-3 tie. Overall, very good effort by Cornell this weekend. Although the final score doesn't show it, Cornell out played Harvard for a good portion of yesterday's game and the same goes for Dartmouth today.[/quote]
Impressive. Harvard and Dartmouth are usually two of the top 3 in the league. Hopefully Cornell can keep building on good showings and start racking up some wins.
[quote ithacat][quote mattj711]Would I be getting to greedy to want to see Marie-Philip Poulin commit to the Big Red next?[/quote]
Absolutely not...:) Rougeau and Poulin are teammates at Dawson; Jenner and Poulin were teammates on the U18 squad...hmm.
That would be an incredible class.[/quote]
Matt, what do you think about Laura Fortino's decision to wear Red?
http://www.thespec.com/Sports/article/515349
[quote ithacat][quote ithacat][quote mattj711]Would I be getting to greedy to want to see Marie-Philip Poulin commit to the Big Red next?[/quote]
Absolutely not...:) Rougeau and Poulin are teammates at Dawson; Jenner and Poulin were teammates on the U18 squad...hmm.
That would be an incredible class.[/quote]
Matt, what do you think about Laura Fortino's decision to wear Red?
http://www.thespec.com/Sports/article/515349[/quote]
That is VERY good news. Cornell should take another HUGE step forward with the commitments they're receiving.
USAHockey.com's article on Rebecca Johnston (http://www.usahockey.com/patty_kazmaier/default.aspx?NAV=AF_10&id=255986&DetailedNews=yes)
The article reports that Rebecca Johnston may potentially miss next season in order to train for the Canadian Olympic team. She is quite the athlete.
Congrats to Rebecca Johnston, Catherine White and Amanda Young for their All-Ivy recognition.
Johnston was a unanimous selection to the All Ivy First Team. Catherine White was selected for the second team and was the unanimous selection for the rookie of their year. Amanda Young was also named to the second team.
Harvard 3 Cornell 0 in the QF. Games 2 (and 3) at 2pm Saturday (and Sunday).
Harvard completes the sweep with a second shutout today, 4-0.
Gotta stop playing these jock schools.
The games were much closer than the final scores indicate. Cornell looked very solid defensively and offensively most of the time. Harvard's goalie stood on her head, and Cornell had a couple of defensive break downs which Harvard capitalized on. I'm already looking forward to next season. Their are some very good players on the way!
Congrats to Rebecca Johnston on being named a top 10 finalist for the Patty Kaz Memorial Award, which is given out to the top female collegiate hockey player for the year.
Johnston is named to ECAC First Team. White has been named the ECAC Rookie of the Year and to the ECAC Second Team and the All Rookie Team.
Rebecca Johnston and incoming recruit Brianne Jenner will both be centralized with team Canada next season. While they will certainly be missed in the line up next year, this should be great PR for attracting other top recruits in coming years.
[quote mattj711]Rebecca Johnston and incoming recruit Brianne Jenner will both be centralized with team Canada next season. While they will certainly be missed in the line up next year, this should be great PR for attracting other top recruits in coming years.[/quote]
Does this mean they retain eligibility for the following season? Seems to me that with great talent coming in and these women spending the year with the national team, 2010 will be a fun year to mature the kids, and then 2011 Cornell could be a power.
[quote Trotsky][quote mattj711]Rebecca Johnston and incoming recruit Brianne Jenner will both be centralized with team Canada next season. While they will certainly be missed in the line up next year, this should be great PR for attracting other top recruits in coming years.[/quote]
Does this mean they retain eligibility for the following season? Seems to me that with great talent coming in and these women spending the year with the national team, 2010 will be a fun year to mature the kids, and then 2011 Cornell could be a power.[/quote]
Yes, they will maintain their eligibility. Both Harvard and Dartmouth have had players miss seasons due to national team centralization and still had all 4 years of eligibility.
Though we might be a little light up front next season if there aren't any other, as of yet, unannounced forward recruits coming in. We only dressed 3 forward lines for most of the second half of the season. With 2 forwards graduating and Johnston missing the season, that only leaves 2 returning forward lines from those that dressed during the 2nd half. I'm hoping that some of the players that weren't dressing were out due to injury and not leaving the team. I expect 2 D from last year to move back up front as that is where they started the season, but that still leaves us kind of light.
We should be quite strong at D and in the net next year.
Anyone know what's going on with the women's team? They seem to be one of the last ECAC teams to announce their incoming class & I'm guessing they're trying to clear some late additions? The roster sans 1st years, is 2 goalies, 3 defensemen, 10 forwards, and 1 D/F. It sounds like there's 2 known incoming defensemen coming in (Fortino and Rougeau). That seems rather light with bodies. I also see that Kim Insalaco's name is gone from the roster.
[quote ithacat]Anyone know what's going on with the women's team? They seem to be one of the last ECAC teams to announce their incoming class...[/quote]
The men's team only officially announced their recruits today. So I wouldn't be too worried yet.
Kim Insalaco got married this summer so she is no longer in the Ithaca area. I'm eagerly awaiting the official recruiting announcement myself. The summers are sooo slow.
How big a loss is Kim? Recruiting has improved tremendously the past few years. Any idea who might be taking her place?
Well, I'm a big believer that the head coach has a far greater ultimate impact on attracting and obtaining commitments from top notch talent. Certainly, assistants play a large role as well and often serve as the initial point of contact. I certainly hope they find another quality assistant coach to replace her, but I wouldn't expect recruiting to suffer.
So weird to see Syracuse here:
2009-10 W. Hockey Schedule (http://cornellbigred.com/schedule.aspx?path=whockey&schedule=492)
The Mercyhurst series is in the afternoon before the men's exhibition games. I love doubleheader action.
The bio's on the 09-10 roster have been updated. Still no freshman posted but at least its a step in the right direction.
Fortino and Rougeau for '09, Jenner for '10:
http://cornellbigred.com/news/2009/7/10/WICE_0710094827.aspx
Congrats to Catherine White, Chelsea Karpenko, Lauriane Rougeau and Laura Fortino who were all invited to the Canadian U22 tryout camp!
http://hockeycanada.com/index.php/ci_id/64715/la_id/1.htm
With Johnston and Jenner that makes 6 Cornell's actively involved with Hockey Canada's women's development program. Young was also invited last year, as has Mazzotta. That is kind of an incredible number!
Cornell announced the hiring of Edith Zimmering today to replace Kim Insalaco who was married over the summer. http://cornellbigred.com/news/2009/8/3/WICE_0803095152.aspx
Also, the roster now includes Rougeau but Fortino has not yet been added.
[quote mattj711]..... to replace Kim Insalaco who was married over the summer. [/quote]
Is there an NCAA rule against married coaches? :-D
If the coach marries a top recruit, it has to be considered a non-permitted inducement.
Scout: "This girl has 63 goals and 20 assists last year. She's a ferocious checker, and wins 80% of her faceoffs."
Coach: "God, I love her."
That may be the only thing NC$$ doesn't have rules about ::wank::
Top recruit deciding between BC, Sucks, and Cornell.
http://www.thetimesherald.com/article/20090817/SPORTS/908170309/Wasylk+back+in+USA+camp
[quote ebilmes]Top recruit deciding between BC, Sucks, and Cornell.
http://www.thetimesherald.com/article/20090817/SPORTS/908170309/Wasylk+back+in+USA+camp[/quote]
I'll definitely keep my fingers crossed on this one. I would love it if she chooses Cornell!!!
Apparently, Cornell has received a commitment from a very solid Team Ontario Red player for next season.
[quote mattj711]Apparently, Cornell has received a commitment from a very solid Team Ontario Red player for next season.[/quote]
Is this someone who was here with Toronto?
According to USCHO it looks like Cornell also picked up someone from Shattuck.
Great weekend for hockey coming up...Mercyhurst for 2 against the women; men begin with Windsor and then finish with US U18ers. Ithaca native (and future Cornellian) Andy Iles is in-town with the national team. Should be a blast.
Not an Aeros player but she does play in the PWHL. But I've heard 3 Aeros players have committed to Ivy League school...just none to Cornell, at least at this point.
I'm definitely looking forward to the games this weekend. Call me crazy, but I'm feeling very good about this weekend's series.
[quote mattj711]Not an Aeros player but she does play in the PWHL. But I've heard 3 Aeros players have committed to Ivy League school...just none to Cornell, at least at this point.
I'm definitely looking forward to the games this weekend. Call me crazy, but I'm feeling very good about this weekend's series.[/quote]
Call me pessimistic, but I think the team will really miss Johnston. I predict Mercyhurst will win both.
p.s. You're crazy!
[quote imafrshmn][quote mattj711]Not an Aeros player but she does play in the PWHL. But I've heard 3 Aeros players have committed to Ivy League school...just none to Cornell, at least at this point.
I'm definitely looking forward to the games this weekend. Call me crazy, but I'm feeling very good about this weekend's series.[/quote]
Call me pessimistic, but I think the team will really miss Johnston. I predict Mercyhurst will win both.
p.s. You're crazy![/quote]
I know. ::banana::
It'll be fun just watching hockey again. Can't say I have a good feeling about the Mercyhurst series. It could be a daunting test coming out of the gate against the #1 team which has played 4 games and out-scored its opponents 16-3. My big concern is depth.
MC 3-1 after 2. MC starts the 3rd with 1:01 remaining on a PP.
Let's Go Red...
Cornell is playing pretty well.
Is Fortino playing?
Yes, quite well.
They lost 4-1 (ENG). In no way a mismatch -- if Mercyhurst is truly a great team, the Red should be solid.
Looking forward to seeing tomorrow's game.
[quote Trotsky]They lost 4-1 (ENG). In no way a mismatch -- if Mercyhurst is truly a great team, the Red should be solid.[/quote]
I completely agree. Cornell skated right with them.
4-1 Meryhurst again. Another good effort by Cornell. I do think this team is much better overall than last year's team. While goals will probably be a little harder to come by, based on what I saw, I think we'll give up fewer as well. Cornell skated right with Mercyhurst 90% of both games and even outplayed them for chunks. Unfortunately, we had a couple lapses and MC was very good at capitalizing on their opportunities.
Add Johnston and Jenner and TBA and this team should be extremely good next season.
[quote mattj711]4-1 Meryhurst again. Another good effort by Cornell. I do think this team is much better overall than last year's team. While goals will probably be a little harder to come by, based on what I saw, I think we'll give up fewer as well. Cornell skated right with Mercyhurst 90% of both games and even outplayed them for chunks. Unfortunately, we had a couple lapses and MC was very good at capitalizing on their opportunities.
Add Johnston and Jenner and TBA and this team should be extremely good next season.[/quote]
I had the feeling that this team was a year away from challenging for a league title, even with Johnston et al. Next year should be a lot of fun.
[quote Tom Lento][quote mattj711]4-1 Meryhurst again. Another good effort by Cornell. I do think this team is much better overall than last year's team. While goals will probably be a little harder to come by, based on what I saw, I think we'll give up fewer as well. Cornell skated right with Mercyhurst 90% of both games and even outplayed them for chunks. Unfortunately, we had a couple lapses and MC was very good at capitalizing on their opportunities.
Add Johnston and Jenner and TBA and this team should be extremely good next season.[/quote]
I had the feeling that this team was a year away from challenging for a league title, even with Johnston et al. Next year should be a lot of fun.[/quote]
Very impressed by Fortino. I thought she was the best player on the ice for either team. She might be the best skater for a Cornell team since Topher Scott. I still think Cornell plays too much like a collection of parts and not like a team.
[quote ithacat][quote Tom Lento][quote mattj711]4-1 Meryhurst again. Another good effort by Cornell. I do think this team is much better overall than last year's team. While goals will probably be a little harder to come by, based on what I saw, I think we'll give up fewer as well. Cornell skated right with Mercyhurst 90% of both games and even outplayed them for chunks. Unfortunately, we had a couple lapses and MC was very good at capitalizing on their opportunities.
Add Johnston and Jenner and TBA and this team should be extremely good next season.[/quote]
I had the feeling that this team was a year away from challenging for a league title, even with Johnston et al. Next year should be a lot of fun.[/quote]
Very impressed by Fortino. I thought she was the best player on the ice for either team. She might be the best skater for a Cornell team since Topher Scott. I still think Cornell plays too much like a collection of parts and not like a team.[/quote]
Cornell had very good team play from the defensive zone through our neutral zone. Passing around the perimeter of the offensive zone wasn't bad. They could have used more team play through the slot area setting up their teammates.
All in all, I'm very pleased with how the team is playing.
Speaking of Laura Fortino's impressive play. Here is a great article on her in her hometown newspaper, the Hamilton Spectator...http://www.thespec.com/Sports/article/659649
Thanks for the link. She was a lot of fun to watch on Saturday. Maybe she can convince a couple of her former teammates at Stoney Creek to head to Cornell.
Cornell with a great 3-0 win over Dartmouth this afternoon. Rougeau lead the way with a short handed goal and an assist. Laura Fortino also scored a very nice goal unassisted after keep the puck in on the blue line, skating around several dartmouth players and punching the puck past Dartmouths goalie on a wrap around. Kendice Ogilvie scored the first goal on the power play after slamming home Catherine White's rebound in a basically empty net.
Cornell pulls off the weekend sweep, beating Harvard 4-3 out shooting them 26-19. White and Jue both with 3 points. Cornell looked a little flat in the first 2 period, but came out strong and pretty much controlled the 3rd.
I thought Cornell looked pretty strong throughout the game. They scored first, Harvard needed powerplays for at least 2 of their goals and we forechecked better than the men did against Niagara. We also got outstanding goaltending and heads up play in our own end.
I have it on very good authority that this is the first weekend sweep of Harvard and Dartmouth in the history of the program making this win even more significant.
Quote from: dag14I thought Cornell looked pretty strong throughout the game. They scored first, Harvard needed powerplays for at least 2 of their goals and we forechecked better than the men did against Niagara. We also got outstanding goaltending and heads up play in our own end.
I have it on very good authority that this is the first weekend sweep of Harvard and Dartmouth in the history of the program making this win even more significant.
I just thought we had more jump in the first 3 games and in the third period, compared to the first two periods today. We were very solid all game. I also really hate Harvard so maybe I was just hoping we'd stick it to them a little earlier. ;-) At any rate, I am very pleased with how this team is coming together.
USCHO Nov. 2 poll has Cornell at #10. Neither Dartmouth or Harvard are ranked this week although both teams did receive some votes.
Any word on why the Niesluchowski twins left the team?
Quote from: ebilmesAny word on why the Niesluchowski twins left the team?
probably because they couldn't fit their names on the uniforms. ::whistle::
Now that it's on uscho.com....Hayleigh Cudmore a defended with the Oakville Ice/Team Ontario Red has apparently committed to Cornell. Appears to be another solid d pickup.
Women win at Union this afternoon 4-0. Based on "Live Stats" from Union, we did everything better than they did.
Quote from: dag14Women win at Union this afternoon 4-0. Based on "Live Stats" from Union, we did everything better than they did.
Nice...RPI beat Colgate 10-4. Should be a fun game tomorrow.
Cornell gets another W with a 3-1 win over RPI. Shots were 29-19 RPI. RPI only had 1 shot after the first and 7 after 2.
USCHO Nov. 9 poll moves Cornell to #7!
Cornell-Clarkson 0-0 after 2.
Cornell wins 2-0. ::cheer::
Congrats to the Union women who picked up there 4th point in 6 years by tying Brown, 0-0.
4 point decade...
Quote from: mattj711Cornell wins 2-0. ::cheer::
Nice! Cornell's off to an incredible start with 3 league wins against strong teams.
Quote from: Tom LentoQuote from: mattj711Cornell wins 2-0. ::cheer::
Nice! Cornell's off to an incredible start with 3 league wins against strong teams.
And without Rebecca Johnston. Imagine what they could do *with* her.
Great win. Great effort. Decent atmosphere -- thanks to the band for being there.
Hopefully the results these past few weeks will provide a spark to recruiting. It's been awfully quiet.
What's with the ice? Somebody goofed big time.
Quote from: ithacatWhat's with the ice? Somebody goofed big time.
Care to explain?
Quote from: RichHQuote from: ithacatWhat's with the ice? Somebody goofed big time.
Care to explain?
There was an ice problem (looked like a hole of some sort) in the neutral zone on the side of the ice closer to the visiting team's bench. There were two long delays to try to fix it. The second resulted in an early ice cut with 4:37 left in the period.
Quote from: ithacatGreat win. Great effort. Decent atmosphere -- thanks to the band for being there.
Hopefully the results these past few weeks will provide a spark to recruiting. It's been awfully quiet.
What's with the ice? Somebody goofed big time.
There are 2 more recruits announced than last season at this same point. Both look to be very solid D. Alyssa Gagliardi plays for SSM, a perennially strong prep school. Alyssa has 26 points through 26 games played this season to lead all SSM D and all but 3 of their forwards. Hayleigh Cudmore plays for the Oakville Ice and has played for Team Ontario Red (the top Ontario select team) the past 2 years. She currently leads Oakville in points. She has also been invited to the U-18 Team Canada Strength and Condition and Selection camps.
Cornell is graduating 3 forwards and 1 D. All are very solid players and have stepped up big this season in particular. I think Cornell needs to bring in 2-3 forwards to round out the roster to supplement the return of Johnston and delayed arrival of Jenner. Both are currently with Team Canada. There are still a number of VERY good forwards that either have not yet committed or have not been announce. If Cornell manages to pick up 1 or 2 of these, we'll be more than set. We will probably be set even if we don't pick up any new big name forwards for next season.
....I'm still keeping my fingers crossed on Poulin. :-)
Quote from: ebilmesTop recruit deciding between BC, Sucks, and Cornell.
http://www.thetimesherald.com/article/20090817/SPORTS/908170309/Wasylk+back+in+USA+camp
Unfortunately, Wasylk has indeed signed with BC. ::pain::
As I write this, Cornell leads St. Lawrence 2-1 after 2 periods. I noticed something very peculiar about our roster today--perhaps I am not alone. Comparing this year's roster with last year's, accounting for Johnston's leave of absence, it appears that 7 players have quit the team: Strong, Niesluchowski, Bredice, Holmes, Duffy, Wauer, and Moore. What could possibly explain this and why has it gone unmentioned? Does anyone have an idea what happened with these students? Might it have something to do with the replacement of assistant coach Kim Insalaco with Edith Zimmerman?
Ogilvie is still on the team, She did switch her number from 7 to 4. I'm not sure what the reason is for every player that left. I know a number of players said they were opting to focus on their studies. I'm sure some of it has to do with the upgrade in talent in particular on defense with the addition of Rougeau and Fortino (less playing time for Wauer, Duffy and Moore) and, with Mazzotta as good as she is, less or no playing time for Strong and Niesluchowski.
Both ECAC logos have been removed from the ice surface and there were no apparent problems with the ice today.
Quote from: mattj711Quote from: ithacatGreat win. Great effort. Decent atmosphere -- thanks to the band for being there.
Hopefully the results these past few weeks will provide a spark to recruiting. It's been awfully quiet.
What's with the ice? Somebody goofed big time.
There are 2 more recruits announced than last season at this same point. Both look to be very solid D. Alyssa Gagliardi plays for SSM, a perennially strong prep school. Alyssa has 26 points through 26 games played this season to lead all SSM D and all but 3 of their forwards. Hayleigh Cudmore plays for the Oakville Ice and has played for Team Ontario Red (the top Ontario select team) the past 2 years. She currently leads Oakville in points. She has also been invited to the U-18 Team Canada Strength and Condition and Selection camps.
Cornell is graduating 3 forwards and 1 D. All are very solid players and have stepped up big this season in particular. I think Cornell needs to bring in 2-3 forwards to round out the roster to supplement the return of Johnston and delayed arrival of Jenner. Both are currently with Team Canada. There are still a number of VERY good forwards that either have not yet committed or have not been announce. If Cornell manages to pick up 1 or 2 of these, we'll be more than set. We will probably be set even if we don't pick up any new big name forwards for next season.
....I'm still keeping my fingers crossed on Poulin. :-)
EDIT: Gagliardi is tied for 2nd in points on the team (only behind Amanda Kessel) at 26 points in 26 games played. 2 of the forwards that also have 26 points have played fewer games.
Quote from: mattj711Quote from: mattj711Quote from: ithacatGreat win. Great effort. Decent atmosphere -- thanks to the band for being there.
Hopefully the results these past few weeks will provide a spark to recruiting. It's been awfully quiet.
What's with the ice? Somebody goofed big time.
There are 2 more recruits announced than last season at this same point. Both look to be very solid D. Alyssa Gagliardi plays for SSM, a perennially strong prep school. Alyssa has 26 points through 26 games played this season to lead all SSM D and all but 3 of their forwards. Hayleigh Cudmore plays for the Oakville Ice and has played for Team Ontario Red (the top Ontario select team) the past 2 years. She currently leads Oakville in points. She has also been invited to the U-18 Team Canada Strength and Condition and Selection camps.
Cornell is graduating 3 forwards and 1 D. All are very solid players and have stepped up big this season in particular. I think Cornell needs to bring in 2-3 forwards to round out the roster to supplement the return of Johnston and delayed arrival of Jenner. Both are currently with Team Canada. There are still a number of VERY good forwards that either have not yet committed or have not been announce. If Cornell manages to pick up 1 or 2 of these, we'll be more than set. We will probably be set even if we don't pick up any new big name forwards for next season.
....I'm still keeping my fingers crossed on Poulin. :-)
EDIT: Gagliardi is tied for 2nd in points on the team (only behind Amanda Kessel) at 26 points in 26 games played. 2 of the forwards that also have 26 points have played fewer games.
Is Poulin considering Cornell? What about adding another goalie for depth?
Don't have a clue if Poulin is considering Cornell or if she is academically qualified to get through admissions...Just hopeful thinking on my part. I definitely would like to see a third goalie on the team for added depth at that position.
I saw an article stating that Jessica Campbell (Canada U-18 Team member for the last 2 years) is looking to go Ivy, but it didn't say which schools were in the running.
Quote from: mattj711Don't have a clue if Poulin is considering Cornell or if she is academically qualified to get through admissions...Just hopeful thinking on my part. I definitely would like to see a third goalie on the team for added depth at that position.
I saw an article stating that Jessica Campbell (Canada U-18 Team member for the last 2 years) is looking to go Ivy, but it didn't say which schools were in the running.
Was looking at Campbell's numbers at Pursuit of Excellence and they're pretty good. Check out her 15 year old teammate Meghan Dufault's numbers...http://www.pursuitofexcellence.ca/team-stats.php?team=3
Quote from: ithacatBoth ECAC logos have been removed from the ice surface and there were no apparent problems with the ice today.
IJ (http://www.theithacajournal.com/article/20091117/SPORTS03/911170365/1124/sports03/Greening-s-tempered-play-leads-to-fast-start-in-hockey):
QuoteConference logos installed underneath the ice at Lynah had been causing problems, and came to a head during the Cornell women's 2-0 victory over Clarkson on Friday night.
The material the logos were made of wasn't porous enough to allow water to seep through, making it so the ice sat on top. When players skated over the logos the ice cracked, and every time the Zamboni went over it, the machine wore away at the thicker layer of ice.
Both teams were sent to the locker room with 4:37 left in the first period for intermission because of the problem.
The logos were removed prior to the women's game on Saturday against St. Lawrence.
Cornell is leading Princeton 1-0 after 1 and out shooting them 12-1. We've had a couple of point blank misses too.
Still 1-0 after 2. Shots 21-9 Cornell.
Cornell wins 1-0.
Women led Quinnipiac 3-1 at 19:30 of the third today. They tied 3-3. :-/
Brianne Jenner was recently one of two player cut from Team Canada as they finalize their roster for the Olympics. I'm looking forward to seeing her in Cornell jersey next season.
The #6 ladies knocked off #12 Niagara 2-1 last night in the Nutmeg "Classic." They meet again today at 2. The Red are in first (http://www.ecachockey.com/women/2009-10/standings) by points, second by percentage. I hope the winning will translate into to some campus buzz and support. After Niagara they finish off the calendar year at Lynah against weak Yale and Brown squads, so they could be (8-1-1, 10-3-1) and in the national top 5 on New Year's Day.
I agree. It would be nice to see some more student support for this team. On an interesting side note, Cornell has the #1 strength of schedule rating according to the KRACH rating system.
Unfortunately, we lost 2-1 today. We're having trouble coming through in the 2nd game of a weekend series.
Quote from: mattj711Unfortunately, we lost 2-1 today. We're having trouble coming through in the 2nd game of a weekend series.
Depth may have something to do with that. That having been said, the effort in the 3rd period was impressive.
Quote from: mattj711Unfortunately, we lost 2-1 today. We're having trouble coming through in the 2nd game of a weekend series.
At least the team isn't mediocre. I didn't think a lot about women's sports when I was in school. Now I think, if the men can be national contenders in a sport, then Cornell ought to make the same effort for women to be successful in that sport. Conversely, this would not be a time for the Cornell women to start a football team.
Quote from: billhowardConversely, this would not be a time for the Cornell women to start a football team.
They might win a scrimmage against the men.
Quote from: TrotskyQuote from: billhowardConversely, this would not be a time for the Cornell women to start a football team.
They might win a scrimmage against the men.
We're probably thinking back on that same joke, paraphrasing: "The women's team walked to the locker room all smiles at halftime, and three plays later the men scored."
Well, there was that shining afternoon at Yale when the defense held at the end to preserve a 14-12 victory and we climbed to 2-0 thinking a winning season and the upper half of the Ivy League was possible.
Quote from: billhowardWell, there was that shining afternoon at Yale when the defense held at the end to preserve a 14-12 victory and we climbed to 2-0 thinking a winning season and the upper half of the Ivy League was possible.
Not gonna win many games making three first downs. The win was nice, but the sandlot offensive showing foreshadowed a long season of--as Jim Hyla put it--misery.
Well, the women pick up 3 points on the weekend, but for some major goaltending heroics by Yale, it would have been 4 points. Overall, a very good first half of the season. The team now has an overall record of 8-4-2 and an ECAC record of 7-1-2. Mazzotta has 5 shut outs so far this season.
Quote from: billhowardQuote from: TrotskyQuote from: billhowardConversely, this would not be a time for the Cornell women to start a football team.
They might win a scrimmage against the men.
We're probably thinking back on that same joke, paraphrasing: "The women's team walked to the locker room all smiles at halftime, and three plays later the men scored."
No. I wasn't joking.
http://cornellbigred.com/news/2009/12/9/WICE_1209091424.aspx
This is great news for the women and the program. Suddenly, however, that game against Syracuse (which will be entering its 4th semester of having had a program) doesn't feel as exciting. Cornell will have 15 players on its roster.
Here's an article discussing the light bench we'll have for the game against Syracuse and the series against Providence. http://www.theithacajournal.com/article/20091216/SPORTS03/912150326/1128/SPORTS/Cornell-women-hope-to-continue-to-thrive-shorthanded-in-hockey
SU's knocking on the door of the top 10 in only the second year of the program. I'll root for the underdog and the start of a Finger Lake rivalry.
Quote from: statenauroraSU's knocking on the door of the top 10 in only the second year of the program. I'll root for the underdog and the start of a Finger Lake rivalry.
I hope this will become a good rivalry game.
Given Cornell's roster numbers for this game it sure feels like they have to be the underdog -- seems crazy saying that given that the game's at Lynah, Cornell's ranked higher, and more established... blah, blah...
Bump...Syracuse at Lynah tonight at 7:00. LGR...
Playing only 13 skaters, Cornell's women had a 1-0 lead after one period, outshooting Syracuse 17-2, but eventually ran out of gas and lost in OT, 2-1. Syracuse tied it in the third on a shorthanded goal.
Awesome, should've taken the drive down.
Cornell's playing at PC this afternoon at 2PM and tomorrow at 2PM. I will watch this afternoon's game online and post updates in between periods. Hopefully, I will be able to catch tomorrow's game too.
3-1 Providence after 1. First goal was a nice back door goal after Mazzotta stopped the initial shot from the point. 2nd goal I'm sure Mazzotta would like to have back. Third goal was scored on a nice shot through traffic that picked the Corner. Cornell scored to make it 2-1 on the power play. Karpenko tipped in Jue's point shot. Shots on goal are 12-8 Providence. All in all, that was definitely not our best period of hockey particularly in our defensive end. Two of PC's goals were scored because we were poking at the puck and didn't pick up the player.
5-2 Providence after 2. Shots on goal are 19-17 Providence. K. Overguard is also not dressed this game (not sure if she was injured last game?), but her absence is really hurting with the other 3 players out of the line up in Germany. Hughes scored from Zorn and Ogilvie.
6-3 final score with final shots 27-25 Providence. Ogilvie scored our only goal of the 3rd unassisted though I missed the goal as I had to step away from my computer for a few minutes. We definitely looked exhausted at times and our defense was the most porous I've seen this season. We battled hard but with 12 skaters I certainly can under stand fatigue setting in. I will say we battled until the end.
On the recruiting front, I'm hearing some good news.
Quote from: mattj7116-3 final score with final shots 27-25 Providence. Ogilvie scored our only goal of the 3rd unassisted though I missed the goal as I had to step away from my computer for a few minutes. We definitely looked exhausted at times and our defense was the most porous I've seen this season. We battled hard but with 12 skaters I certainly can under stand fatigue setting in. I will say we battled until the end.
On the recruiting front, I'm hearing some good news.
Matt, thanks for the updates. The size of the squad was a concern at the beginning of the season and once this tournament hit...ugh. It'll be interesting to see how they handle having to play again tomorrow.
Poulin? Please...
Quote from: ithacatQuote from: mattj7116-3 final score with final shots 27-25 Providence. Ogilvie scored our only goal of the 3rd unassisted though I missed the goal as I had to step away from my computer for a few minutes. We definitely looked exhausted at times and our defense was the most porous I've seen this season. We battled hard but with 12 skaters I certainly can under stand fatigue setting in. I will say we battled until the end.
On the recruiting front, I'm hearing some good news.
Matt, thanks for the updates. The size of the squad was a concern at the beginning of the season and once this tournament hit...ugh. It'll be interesting to see how they handle having to play again tomorrow.
Poulin? Please...
Unfortunately, I don't have any word on Poulin, but word is we are obtaining one of the Canadian U-18 members that I mentioned earlier.
Quote from: mattj711Quote from: ithacatQuote from: mattj7116-3 final score with final shots 27-25 Providence. Ogilvie scored our only goal of the 3rd unassisted though I missed the goal as I had to step away from my computer for a few minutes. We definitely looked exhausted at times and our defense was the most porous I've seen this season. We battled hard but with 12 skaters I certainly can under stand fatigue setting in. I will say we battled until the end.
On the recruiting front, I'm hearing some good news.
Matt, thanks for the updates. The size of the squad was a concern at the beginning of the season and once this tournament hit...ugh. It'll be interesting to see how they handle having to play again tomorrow.
Poulin? Please...
Unfortunately, I don't have any word on Poulin, but word is we are obtaining one of the Canadian U-18 members that I mentioned earlier.
"obtaining"? -- for what, a future draft pick? ;-)
Quote from: scoop85Quote from: mattj711Quote from: ithacatQuote from: mattj7116-3 final score with final shots 27-25 Providence. Ogilvie scored our only goal of the 3rd unassisted though I missed the goal as I had to step away from my computer for a few minutes. We definitely looked exhausted at times and our defense was the most porous I've seen this season. We battled hard but with 12 skaters I certainly can under stand fatigue setting in. I will say we battled until the end.
On the recruiting front, I'm hearing some good news.
Matt, thanks for the updates. The size of the squad was a concern at the beginning of the season and once this tournament hit...ugh. It'll be interesting to see how they handle having to play again tomorrow.
Poulin? Please...
Unfortunately, I don't have any word on Poulin, but word is we are obtaining one of the Canadian U-18 members that I mentioned earlier.
"obtaining"? -- for what, a future draft pick? ;-)
Player to be named later. :p
Cornell down 1-0 after 1 to PC, but they are out shooting providence 14-9 after one. Apparently, I was wrong and Wilson played in net yesterday for Cornell. Mazzotta is in net today. PC just has audio of this game. It sounds like Cornell is playing better than they did yesterday.
3-0 Providence after 2. Cornell had a goal waived off at the beginning of the second. The announcer was surmising a player in the crease, but the following face off was still in Providence's zone. Shots are 22-20 Cornell. It sounds like Cornell was struggling with energy that period.
3-0 final. Cornell had 29 shots to PC's 27.
Big game tonight against Harvard. I'll post updates. I really hope we pull this one off.
Quote from: mattj711Big game tonight against Harvard. I'll post updates. I really hope we pull this one off.
Thanks. LGR! ::cheer::
2-1 Harvard after 1. Shots on goal 12-8 Harvard. Cornell came out really flat for the first 5 minutes of the game and spotted Harvard a two goal lead very earlier (one 21 seconds in and another at 3 and 1/2 minutes. Cornell came back to make it 2-1 on goal from Lauriane Rougeau. Fortunately, we started to play better as the period went on.
Cornell's down 4-2 after two. We scored the equalizer at the beginning of the second, but gave up two goals in the later half of the period. Overall, a much much better period for us. Karpenko had the PP goal from White.
We tie it up with 4.4 seconds left! Two minutes left in OT.
Game ends in 4-4 tie. Final Shots 31-25 Cornell. K. Overguard scored the tying goal from Fortino and Rougeau.
Big Red are about to face off against the Big Green. I'll post updates.
Cornell 3 Dartmouth 1, midway through the 3rd
3-1 final. Karpenko gets two goals and an assist, Fortino with a goal and an assist, Rougeau and white with the other assists. Cornell give up only their second PP goal of the season. They're now 65/67 on the PK.
Union won last night...
http://www.timesunion.com/AspStories/story.asp?storyID=889934&category=SPORTS
Great game by the ladies this afternoon beating Colgate 6-0. Rougeau led the way with 2 goals and 2 assists. Fortino had 2 goals and added a helper, white chipped in 3 assists.
According to this ( http://sports.espn.go.com/highschool/rise/news/story?id=4818472 ) article dated January 22, 2010, Cornell is in the running to land Kendall Coyne. Miss Coyne was the only high schooler in the running to make the U.S. Olymipic team. This would be a huge pick up.
Quote from: mattj711According to this ( http://sports.espn.go.com/highschool/rise/news/story?id=4818472 ) article dated January 22, 2010, Cornell is in the running to land Kendall Coyne. Miss Coyne was the only high schooler in the running to make the U.S. Olymipic team. This would be a huge pick up.
It would be huge...but isn't she considered a Harvard lock?
Quote from: ithacatQuote from: mattj711According to this ( http://sports.espn.go.com/highschool/rise/news/story?id=4818472 ) article dated January 22, 2010, Cornell is in the running to land Kendall Coyne. Miss Coyne was the only high schooler in the running to make the U.S. Olymipic team. This would be a huge pick up.
It would be huge...but isn't she considered a Harvard lock?
Perhaps Miss Coyne is looking for a school where the student-athletes' GPAs aren't pre-ordained. Maybe she's not a fan of Scott Brown. Maybe she doesn't like schrod.
Quote from: ithacatQuote from: mattj711According to this ( http://sports.espn.go.com/highschool/rise/news/story?id=4818472 ) article dated January 22, 2010, Cornell is in the running to land Kendall Coyne. Miss Coyne was the only high schooler in the running to make the U.S. Olymipic team. This would be a huge pick up.
It would be huge...but isn't she considered a Harvard lock?
That's what the early season rumor mill was saying, but more recent rink talk has her more open minded.
attempting not to cause a jinx, but looking at the ivy league standings, the home game vs. princeton in two weeks has suddenly become very important.
http://www.ivyleaguesports.com/documents/wihstand.asp
Quote from: mattj711On the recruiting front, I'm hearing some good news.
Matt, do you know anything about Lauren Slebodnick?
http://www.eastcoastwizards.com/Page.asp?n=29325&snid=298364950&org=EASTCOASTWIZARDS.COM
Quote from: ithacatQuote from: mattj711On the recruiting front, I'm hearing some good news.
Matt, do you know anything about Lauren Slebodnick?
http://www.eastcoastwizards.com/Page.asp?n=29325&snid=298364950&org=EASTCOASTWIZARDS.COM
I heard Cornell had another goalie lined up for next year but didn't know who until now. Don't know much about her except that she was the alternate goalie for the 2009 USA U-18 team. She should be solid pickup.
Quote from: mattj711Quote from: ithacatQuote from: mattj711On the recruiting front, I'm hearing some good news.
Matt, do you know anything about Lauren Slebodnick?
http://www.eastcoastwizards.com/Page.asp?n=29325&snid=298364950&org=EASTCOASTWIZARDS.COM
I heard Cornell had another goalie lined up for next year but didn't know who until now. Don't know much about her except that she was the alternate goalie for the 2009 USA U-18 team. She should be solid pickup.
Nice...now add Poulin and Coyne...:)
Quote from: ithacatQuote from: mattj711Quote from: ithacatQuote from: mattj711On the recruiting front, I'm hearing some good news.
Matt, do you know anything about Lauren Slebodnick?
http://www.eastcoastwizards.com/Page.asp?n=29325&snid=298364950&org=EASTCOASTWIZARDS.COM
I heard Cornell had another goalie lined up for next year but didn't know who until now. Don't know much about her except that she was the alternate goalie for the 2009 USA U-18 team. She should be solid pickup.
Nice...now add Poulin and Coyne...:)
I'm certainly keeping my fingers and toes crossed for both of them. As I mentioned earlier, I've heard Cornell has an unannounced commitment from a very strong forward. Its not one of those two, but will be a great addition if true.
Cornell and SLU are all tied at 1 after 2. Fortino scored Cornell's loan goal unassisted. The game is a bit of a snoozer so far.
2-2 in OT. Overguard scored from Karpenko with 1 min left in the 3rd to tie it up.
Game ends in 2-2 tie.
The women play a big game at Clarkson this afternoon -- 4 pm I believe. Does anyone know of any kind of media coverage? Even live stats? In the absence of any coverage, it would be great if fans with updates could post them regularly.
There will be live stats and video. Go to ecachockey.com/women/index. You will see the links for video and live stats near the top of the page in the scores section.
Cornell down 1-0 after 1 to Clarkson. Cornell played great that period and definitely controlled play through the first half of the period. Clarkson goal came after Cornell killed off a penalty with about two minutes left in the period.
Quote from: mattj711Cornell down 1-0 after 1 to Clarkson. Cornell played great that period and definitely controlled play through the first half of the period. Clarkson goal came after Cornell killed off a penalty with about two minutes left in the period.
Gotta love the WCKN broadcasters. When they took a look at the "out of town scores" monitor, there was a mistake: Cornell men were shown as having 2 games tonight, against SLU and Clarkson. But the color boy, bless the kid, read both game entries as if nothing was fishy.
2-1 final score. Clarkson scored a quick one to start the third and Cornell played flat for the 2nd and 3rd periods.
Quote from: Tom LentoQuote from: mattj711Cornell wins 2-0. ::cheer::
Nice! Cornell's off to an incredible start with 3 league wins against strong teams.
It feels right that the women's team finally has the luck, skill, coaching, Cornell commitment - whatever - to be a national contender as the men's team is. It felt bad that the Harvard women were so good relative to us. Plus the uphill battle of the Cornell women having to earn their GPA the old-fashioned way.
Cornell ties Quinnipiac 0-0 tonight despite having a 36-12 shot advantage through regulation. Quinnipiacs goalie stood on her head. Good effort tonight by the ladies.
Also congrats to Amanda Mazzotta who now is in sole posession of the single season shutout record at 7.
The women slam Princeton this afternoon 6-0 and clinch a share of the Ivy title.
Quote from: dag14The women slam Princeton this afternoon 6-0 and clinch a share of the Ivy title.
Great news. A new white banner for the rafters!
The ladies have two remaining Ivy games: At Brown and At Yale. All they need is one more point to take the Ivy title outright.
Matt, any word on Jessica Campbell?
Quote from: ithacatMatt, any word on Jessica Campbell?
She has "blazing" speed. That's all I can say at this point.
Cornell up on Brown 3-0 after 2.
4-0 final score. Third period was relatively uneventful. Solid effort by Cornell.
Outright Ivy League Champs! Go Red women!
And congrats to Amanda Mazzotta for yet another shutout.
Congratulations to the women on a great year. Keep on winning!!! :-)
It is also note worthy that Amanda Mazzotta now leads the nation in shutouts at 9 this season.
Last regular season home games next weekend. I hope folks come out and support the women. The team is a lot of fun to watch. They're fast and have some amazing skaters. They're very entertaining to watch.
Quote from: mattj711It is also note worthy that Amanda Mazzotta now leads the nation in shutouts at 9 this season.
Good to know that "Goaltender U." is co-ed. **]
Cornell/Yale 0-0 after 1 in relatively uneventful period.
1-0 Cornell. Cornell scored on their first PP of the game with about 30 seconds left in the 2nd. Rougeau scored from White and Fortino.
Cornell wins 1-0. Cornell led the final shots 47 to 19. Congrats to Cornell for going undefeated in the Ivy League this season and to Mazzotta on her 4th straight shutout and tenth on the season.
Congrats to Amanda Mazzotta for being named the ECAC GOTW again. Her 10 shutouts on the season now match Cornell's ice hockey shutout record holder, David McKee, for the school record in a season.
Quote from: mattj711Congrats to Amanda Mazzotta for being named the ECAC GOTW again. Her 10 shutouts on the season now match Cornell's ice hockey shutout record holder, David McKee, for the school record in a season.
Yeah, but she's not as good as this looks. It's really the system that makes her look good. ::laugh::
Quote from: SwampyQuote from: mattj711Congrats to Amanda Mazzotta for being named the ECAC GOTW again. Her 10 shutouts on the season now match Cornell's ice hockey shutout record holder, David McKee, for the school record in a season.
Yeah, but she's not as good as this looks. It's really the system that makes her look good. ::laugh::
Well, to be fair, McKee wasn't as good as he looked. He really needed to stay, or go to a place where he could work on fundamentals. It turns out that place wasn't the minors.
Quote from: Jim HylaQuote from: SwampyQuote from: mattj711Congrats to Amanda Mazzotta for being named the ECAC GOTW again. Her 10 shutouts on the season now match Cornell's ice hockey shutout record holder, David McKee, for the school record in a season.
Yeah, but she's not as good as this looks. It's really the system that makes her look good. ::laugh::
Well, to be fair, McKee wasn't as good as he looked. He really needed to stay, or go to a place where he could work on fundamentals. It turns out that place wasn't the minors.
Jim,
Who said anything about being fair?
Congrats to Laura Fortino, Lauriane Rougeau and Catherine White who are in the initial group of 45 players nominated for the 2010 Patty Kazmaier award.
Cornell up 1-0 on RPI after 1, thanks to a goal by Hughes assisted by K. Overguard. Cornell has the shots on goal edge 5-3. The first period was definitely a defensive emphasis by each side. Clarkson and Dartmouth are currently tied 1-1 in the first.
1-1 after 2. Cornell has the shots edge 16-10. We gave RPI a few too many scoring opertunities for my liking that period. Hopefully we come out and take charge in the third. The good news is Dartmouth is up 2-1 on Clarkson in the second.
Cornell wins 2-1, thanks to a goal by K. Overguard from White in the third!! AAAAND...Dartmouth beats Clarkson 4-1.....soooooo the ladies are in first. As long as they take care of business against Union tomorrow (which I will not take for granted starting tomorrow morning), first place is theirs to keep!!!
Finals:
Cornell 2 RPI 1
Dartmouth 4 Clarkson 1
How does the women's playoff system work?
Quote from: scoop85How does the women's playoff system work?
From here: (http://www.ecachockey.com/women/tournament/2010_Womens_Champ) Top eight qualify. Best-of-3 quarterfinals Feb. 26-28 at higher seeds. Semifinals and championship played Friday and Sunday respectively, all at highest remaining seeds. This document doesn't specify which weekend that is, but it sounds like the next weekend, so 3/5 and 3/7.
Cornell is up on Union 3-1 after 1. Shots on goal are 13-3.
4-1 Cornell after 2. Karpenko scores again from Ogilvie. Shots on goal 26-6.
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Cornell wins 6-1 and is now the 2010 ECAC champs!!
Regular season champs, yes, and quite the accomplishment. Not sure whether they get a trophy for that as the men do.
Trophy presentations took place immediately after the seniors were honored post-game. An embarrassment of riches -- first the Ivy League trophy and then the ECAC trophy. [Ivy League trophy is larger and nicer].
This is a tremendous accomplishment and these players deserve a huge turnout when they host the quarterfinals next Friday, Saturday [and Sunday if necessary]. It was announced that Colgate is the opponent. No announcement yet as to game times but I suspect the first two will be afternoon games since the men are at home next weekend.
Quote from: dag14Trophy presentations took place immediately after the seniors were honored post-game. An embarrassment of riches -- first the Ivy League trophy and then the ECAC trophy. [Ivy League trophy is larger and nicer].
This is a tremendous accomplishment and these players deserve a huge turnout when they host the quarterfinals next Friday, Saturday [and Sunday if necessary]. It was announced that Colgate is the opponent. No announcement yet as to game times but I suspect the first two will be afternoon games since the men are at home next weekend.
Tremendous indeed. I believe this is Cornell's best-ever ECAC RS finish. I think Clarkson might still be a slight favorite in the conference tournament, but if (and that's a big if) Cornell can manage to win its next 3 I think the ladies will get into the NCAAs regardless of the conference final, although the only sure thing is a title.
Three from CU on All-ECAC. (http://www.theithacajournal.com/article/20100224/SPORTS03/2240362/1128/Sports/Cornell+hockey+trio+on+ECAC+first+team) That' the IJ, this is the complete listing on ECAC site. (http://www.ecachockey.com/women/2009-10/Weekly_Awards/20102402_W_All_League_All_Rookie)
Two first team freshmen. Nice.
And a gold medal winner returns next season.
Women up 1-0.
Now 3-0
Quote from: Jim HylaNow 3-0
4-0 Cornell at the end of the second. Go Red!
Game ends 5-0. Rougeau gets 4 pts on 2 goals and 2 assists and White gets 2 goals. Mazzotta with another shutout. On to the semi-finals! ::drunk::
SLU beats CLK 2-1
RPI beats Q 1-0
Both of those go to third game tomorrow.
HVD up on P 1-0 starting second. HVD won the first game.
From the ECAC website (http://www.ecachockey.com/women/2009-10/News/20102002_ChampQuarterfinals):
QuoteThe 2010 championship shall feature a new format for the semifinals and championship games. In April 2009, the League administrators and coaches voted to amend the format for the semifinals and championship game such that the semifinals and championship game shall be conducted on the campuses of the highest remaining seeds. Previously, the highest remaining seed of the four semifinalists hosted the semifinals and championship games.
The quarterfinals winners shall advance to the championship semifinals, which shall be conducted Friday, March 5, on the campuses of the two highest remaining seeds. The highest remaining seed shall host the lowest remaining seed; the second-highest remaining seed shall host the third-highest remaining seed.
The two semifinals winners shall advance to the championship final, conducted Sunday, March 7 at the on-campus site of the higher remaining seed.
So, Cornell will host the lowest advancing seed on March 5 at Lynah. Hopefully, particularly since the men are off and hoops has clinched and is out of town, we'll see the largest crowd in women's Lynah history?
If they win, the final will be at Lynah on Sunday.
At the moment, the series stand at:
1 Cornell def. 8 Colgate, 2-0.
2 Clarkson tied with 7 SLU, 1-1; game 3 Sunday.
3 Harvard leads 6 Princeton , 1-0 and 2-0 in game 2.
4 Quinnipiac tied with 5 RPI, 1-1; game 3 Sunday.
Cornell's opponent in the SF will be one of {Quinnipiac, RPI, Princeton, SLU}
Quote from: TrotskyHopefully, particularly since the men are off and hoops has clinched and is out of town, we'll see the largest crowd in women's Lynah history?
Anyone know what the record is? The team's average attendance this season is 383. They drew 538 and 835 this weekend with free admission.
PS, It was great having the band there on Saturday.
Quote from: ithacatQuote from: TrotskyHopefully, particularly since the men are off and hoops has clinched and is out of town, we'll see the largest crowd in women's Lynah history?
Anyone know what the record is? The team's average attendance this season is 383. They drew 538 and 835 this weekend with free admission.
PS, It was great having the band there on Saturday.
If they sell out, there's a record right there. ;)
Anybody with pull at the Daily Sun should get a campaign going pronto.
Quote from: TrotskyQuote from: ithacatQuote from: TrotskyHopefully, particularly since the men are off and hoops has clinched and is out of town, we'll see the largest crowd in women's Lynah history?
Anyone know what the record is? The team's average attendance this season is 383. They drew 538 and 835 this weekend with free admission.
PS, It was great having the band there on Saturday.
If they sell out, there's a record right there. ;)
Anybody with pull at the Daily Sun should get a campaign going pronto.
Did the make an announcement during last night's men's game? I should hope so.
Clk wins, RPI-Q 1-1 3 OTs. CU plays winner of that game.
Quote from: Jordan 04Quote from: TrotskyQuote from: ithacatQuote from: TrotskyHopefully, particularly since the men are off and hoops has clinched and is out of town, we'll see the largest crowd in women's Lynah history?
Anyone know what the record is? The team's average attendance this season is 383. They drew 538 and 835 this weekend with free admission.
PS, It was great having the band there on Saturday.
If they sell out, there's a record right there. ;)
Anybody with pull at the Daily Sun should get a campaign going pronto.
Did the make an announcement during last night's men's game? I should hope so.
They made an announcement at the basketball game
RPI wins in 5OTs 2-1 in disputed goal. They play us.
I assume all the BRSP holders will get another this email about it. Attendance will be up a lot considering men's hockey is off and basketball is on the road.
Quote from: Jim HylaRPI wins in 5OTs 2-1 in disputed goal. They play us.
What was the dispute?
Quote from: ugarteQuote from: Jim HylaRPI wins in 5OTs 2-1 in disputed goal. They play us.
What was the dispute?
The announcers said no goal light went on, they thought it went off the crossbar. There was a discussion between the refs and the goal judge and they called it. My term disputed was probably too strong as the team never screamed about it, rather it took a while for everyone to agree. Quite a way to end what they said was the second longest game. At least no shoot-out.
Women 4PM Fri against RPI. If they win, Sun ? time against winner of Hvd @ Clk.
Quote from: Jim HylaWomen 4PM Fri against RPI. If they win, Sun ? time against winner of Hvd @ Clk.
http://cornellbigred.com/news/2010/2/28/WICE_0228105608.aspx has a 7pm start for Friday's game. The final on Sunday starts at 4pm at the home site of the highest remaining seed.
Quote from: ithacatQuote from: Jim HylaWomen 4PM Fri against RPI. If they win, Sun ? time against winner of Hvd @ Clk.
http://cornellbigred.com/news/2010/2/28/WICE_0228105608.aspx has a 7pm start for Friday's game. The final on Sunday starts at 4pm at the home site of the highest remaining seed.
It was 4 this AM, but you're it's 7 PM now. Much better.
Hayleigh Cudmore has been named to the 2010 Canadian U-18 team. By my count this will make 9 players that represented Canada internationally playing for Cornell next year. In addition, Slebodnick, an incoming goalie recruit, was an alternate for the USA U-18 team. This is looking to be quite a formidible roster. Poulin has yet to commit. Not sure if Cornell is in the running for her or not, but I'm certainly keeping my fingers crossed.
If we land Poulin, we will be a in the hunt for a national title next year. Without her, we should still be nationally competitive. I've come to realize that in the long run, the women's team has more potential to be a national title winner than the men's team due to a number of factors: smaller number of DI teams, smaller recruitment pool of elite talent, and the increased importance of educational quality to women over men since they can't play pro hockey.
Quote from: imafrshmnIf we land Poulin, we will be a in the hunt for a national title next year. Without her, we should still be nationally competitive. I've come to realize that in the long run, the women's team has more potential to be a national title winner than the men's team due to a number of factors: smaller number of DI teams, smaller recruitment pool of elite talent, and the increased importance of educational quality to women over men since they can't play pro hockey.
That's not strictly accurate, since there
is a professional women's hockey league hockey league in Canada (http://www.cwhl.ca/), but I think your point is still generally true.
Quote from: Josh '99Quote from: imafrshmnIf we land Poulin, we will be a in the hunt for a national title next year. Without her, we should still be nationally competitive. I've come to realize that in the long run, the women's team has more potential to be a national title winner than the men's team due to a number of factors: smaller number of DI teams, smaller recruitment pool of elite talent, and the increased importance of educational quality to women over men since they can't play pro hockey.
That's not strictly accurate, since there is a professional women's hockey league hockey league in Canada (http://www.cwhl.ca/), but I think your point is still generally true.
Maybe there is a league. But the fact that no one has ever heard of it kind of proves the point.
While the league does give high level players a place to play, it does not put food on their tables.
Quote from: KeithKMaybe there is a league. But the fact that no one has ever heard of it kind of proves the point.
The Clarkson Cup (http://www.cwhl.ca/)?
Insert syphilis joke here.
Quote from: Jim HylaQuote from: ithacatQuote from: Jim HylaWomen 4PM Fri against RPI. If they win, Sun ? time against winner of Hvd @ Clk.
http://cornellbigred.com/news/2010/2/28/WICE_0228105608.aspx has a 7pm start for Friday's game. The final on Sunday starts at 4pm at the home site of the highest remaining seed.
It was 4 this AM, but you're it's 7 PM now. Much better.
Agreed...from yesterday's Ithaca Journal:
Friday's Rensselaer-Cornell ECACH women's semifinal game at Lynah Rink has been pushed back to a 7 p.m. start. It was originally set for a 4 p.m. faceoff.
Was it pushed back to allow more people to go, or because of RPI travel, or what?
Either way, I hope they get a full house, the band, Arthur, Jason, offensive cheers,... everything. They're the top seed, they deserve it.
"Deeds Not Words!"
Quote from: TrotskyWas it pushed back to allow more people to go, or because of RPI travel, or what?
Either way, I hope they get a full house, the band, Arthur, Jason, offensive cheers,... everything. They're the top seed, they deserve it.
"Deeds Not Words!"
I'd guess a 4 PM time was put in place tentatively, way back when we might have hosted a prelim series??? Now they can change it to 7.
Cornell tied with RPI 1-1 after 1. White scored Cornell's goal from Rougeau. Shots on goal are 6-5, with Cornell having the slight edge. Not a bad period by Cornell, but we're capable of better.
Cornell now ahead 4-1 in the 2nd.
Women win, 5-4. Clarkson leads Harvard 3-2 with 18 seconds to go.
When is the game on Sunday? 4pm?
Dunno. Clarkson wins 3-2.
Box (http://www.ecachockey.com/women/2009-10/boxscores/20100305_ey32.xml).
Quote from: phillysportsfanWhen is the game on Sunday? 4pm?
Clarkson announcers just said 4PM.
Catherine White is the ECAC Player of the Year
http://cornellbigred.com/news/2010/3/6/WICE_0306104103.aspx
So why is it when I go to the ECAC site they list no games today? I know the game is today and I was hoping to read something about the match-up either there or cornellbigred.
Jim
I just emailed Steve Hagwell and asked him.
The game is listed now: http://www.ecachockey.com/women/index
Quote from: Doug DickersonJim
I just emailed Steve Hagwell and asked him.
Thanks
Cornell is currently tied for 8th in the PWR (http://www.uscho.com/rankings/pwr_w.php). How does selection work (how many auto bids, etc)?
ECAC, WCHA and Hockey East all have auto bids. BU just one the HEA championship. I think that means Cornell likely needs to win the ECAC championship to advance, but I'm not a statistics expert.
Both bands are at Lynah. Should be a nice atmosphere now that Cornell finally canned the recorded music. I think Clarkson has more fans here than they bring for a men's game. In fact, Clarkson may have more fans than Cornell. This might be Cheel South.
The RED! and KNIGHTS! during the national anthem was hella strong. The audio sucks, but I suppose I am just thankful that I have a video to watch.
LGR!
Was that a Cornell player singing the anthem?
RedCast has an announcer, who is doing his best. It gives you an idea of how difficult a job it is. In any case, it's appreciated.
Yes, Amanda Young sings the anthems at Cornell's home games.
Redcast is using WVBR's broadcast, lest you think the athletics dept. would set up the announcing.
The guy's rough, but it's obvious he did the work, learned the rosters, etc. He also doesn't have a color guy, so he has to fill all the time himself, while also checking line changes and probably keeping his own stats. I couldn't do it.
Good LGR chant.
Quote from: TrotskyCornell is currently tied for 8th in the PWR (http://www.uscho.com/rankings/pwr_w.php). How does selection work (how many auto bids, etc)?
Based on the womens PWR, which Cornell is tied for 8th but with BU, so with the BU win, they get an automatic bid making Cornell 9th at the moment. NCAA field likely Minnesota, Minnesota-Duluth, Harvard, Clarkson, Mercyhurst, New Hampshire, BU and Cornell with a Cornell win or Connecticut with a Clarkson win. Lets take care of business on the ice.
Clarkson pp. Looks like this is being filmed from South Hill -- the players are like ladylike ants.
Cathy White!!! 1-0.
Beauty of a goal! LGR
2-0 on a scrappy Fortino goal! When the White line and the Rougeau-Fortino pairing are on the ice, this team can apply a lot of pressure.
2-0 now. Halfway through the 2nd.
They do Macho Man at the women's games, too.
Karpenko! 3-0 Is it just me or has Clarkson missed a lot of golden opportunities?
Quote from: imafrshmnKarpenko! 3-0 Is it just me or has Clarkson missed a lot of golden opportunities?
Are you saying Clarkson had an opportunity with you?
Yes, they've been all over our zone and thankfully keep shooting wide or high.
Clarkson scores one after keeping the puck in the zone for a long time and getting fresh players on.
It would be okay if this period ended soon.
And it does. Clarkson really owned the final 5 minutes (including a pp) and Cornell's happy to get to the locker room up 3-1.
Quote from: TrotskyIt would be okay if this period ended soon.
Well, they survived, and Cornell even looked a little better in the last minute or so.
Clarkson looks like the better team, but Cornell's done a better job of putting the puck in the net. I'm guessing Mazotta is a huge advantage in net, but I don't know anything about Clarkson's goaltender.
Quote from: TrotskyThe guy's rough, but it's obvious he did the work, learned the rosters, etc. He also doesn't have a color guy, so he has to fill all the time himself, while also checking line changes and probably keeping his own stats. I couldn't do it.
Good LGR chant.
I don't think this guy knows very much about hockey, which makes his performance more impressive in my opinion. (Edit - he may know plenty about hockey, but I don't think he normally covers it - the language of the game doesn't come naturally to him when he's announcing).
Also, props for this one: "If Cornell pitches a shutout the rest of the way they will win the game. Sorry, that's about as insightful as John Madden, I know."
As feared, Clarkson's made it a game, scoring on the PP. Hang on girls. LGR!
8 minutes to go.
6:20, a little Schafer Hockey here -- dragging it up and down the half wall.
Clarkson back on the PP
Oh noes
Damn. White had the puck jump over her stick on the clear, 3:56 to go, 3-3.
Well, that sucked. Failed clear and Clarkson ties it up after Cornell put on a 90-second shot-blocking clinic.
o.t.
Great shift to end the period for Cornell. I have to give Clarkson the edge in OT, but I remain hopeful.
Quote from: Tom LentoGreat shift to end the period for Cornell. I have to give Clarkson the edge in OT, but I remain hopeful.
Agreed. We better get it early if we're going to get it.
The thing about Clarkson which may be a big advantage in OT is that they have a much longer bench. Each of the skaters on the Cornell side has logged about a third more ice time than Clarkson's. Obviously Cornell has been a three line team all season and is used to it, but they looked a little tired in that 3rd period. Who knows how many decent chances we'll be able to muster up in OT.
Kind of a deja vu Friday's game...
Big save Mazzota.
Fortino the star of overtime so far.
CORNELL WINS!
Wow! Champs!
Derraugh finally gets his ECAC title, 19 years later.
For those who don't know much about the program - this is the first ever ECAC title for Cornell women's hockey. It also ensures the first ever NCAA tournament appearance for the program, although the NCAA women's tournament is only about 10 years old so the wait for that one has been a little shorter.
On the other hand, Cornell won something like 3 games 4 years ago. I don't think anybody would've predicted an ECAC title this soon.
Kudos to the Redcast crew for showing all the post-game celebrations. You just can never count on them getting anything right.
Super!!!! ::cheer::::cheer::::cheer::::cheer::::cheer::::cheer::
Congrats to the team!
Women play Harvard.
at Harvard. Well, the good news is we earned 3/4 points off of them this season. We can definitely beat them again.
Clarkson also makes it.
Full bracket:
Boston Univ. @ #1 Mercyhurst
Cornell @ #4 Harvard
New Hampshire @ #2 Minnesota-Duluth
Clarkson @ #3 Minnesota
I hope that Johnston is waiting to come in with some beer and cigars to honk the horn on the Zamboni*.
*I know that Cornell doesn't have a ZamboniTM.
I dont really follow the women's team so maybe you guys can explain this, how does Cornell beat Harvard once here, tie them in OT there, win the regular season, win the conference tournament while Harvard finishes 3rd in the conference and yet Cornell has to go play Harvard @Harvard in the 1st round?????
Quote from: phillysportsfanI dont really follow the women's team so maybe you guys can explain this, how does Cornell beat Harvard once here, tie them in OT there, win the regular season, win the conference tournament while Harvard finishes 3rd in the conference and yet Cornell has to go play Harvard @Harvard in the 1st round?????
http://www.uscho.com/rankings/pwr_w.php?grid=1
Harvard did well in non-conference games, which means that their Ratings Percentage Index, which is based on all games and not only ECAC games, was better, which helped them win pairwise comparisons over Cornell as well as UConn and Wisconsin, which Cornell loses.
I believe the selection criteria are the same as in the men's game.
Seeding in the women's tournament is all about the statistics....
Quote from: phillysportsfanI dont really follow the women's team so maybe you guys can explain this, how does Cornell beat Harvard once here, tie them in OT there, win the regular season, win the conference tournament while Harvard finishes 3rd in the conference and yet Cornell has to go play Harvard @Harvard in the 1st round?????
Because Harvard is ranked higher in the pairwise comparisons...you know, that wonderful formula that everyone is so happy to have had replace the kind of human judgment that you allude to above.::help::
http://www.uscho.com/rankings/pwr_w.php
Seriously, I'm guessing Harvard's win and tie with Minnesota helped them a lot whereas our three-game losing streak to Syracuse and Providence, twice, hurt. Bottom line, their out-of-conference record was better.
Quote from: Al DeFlorioQuote from: phillysportsfanI dont really follow the women's team so maybe you guys can explain this, how does Cornell beat Harvard once here, tie them in OT there, win the regular season, win the conference tournament while Harvard finishes 3rd in the conference and yet Cornell has to go play Harvard @Harvard in the 1st round?????
Because Harvard is ranked higher in the pairwise comparisons...you know, that wonderful formula that everyone is so happy to have had replace the kind of human judgment that you allude to above.::help::
http://www.uscho.com/rankings/pwr_w.php
Seriously, I'm guessing Harvard's win and tie with Minnesota helped them a lot whereas our three-game losing streak to Syracuse and Providence, twice, hurt. Bottom line, their out-of-conference record was better.
Not just better, but much better. As mentioned they beat and tied Minny ,the third ranked team, tied UHN, a tourny team, and beat PU, UConn, BU, and Northeastern. Very good.
hey so i'm a student at CU right now and i'm going to be in boston this upcoming weekend and would love to go support Big Red. Does anyone know anything about ticket sales? Will i be able to get some through cornell athletics department?
Quote from: Jim HylaQuote from: Al DeFlorioQuote from: phillysportsfanI dont really follow the women's team so maybe you guys can explain this, how does Cornell beat Harvard once here, tie them in OT there, win the regular season, win the conference tournament while Harvard finishes 3rd in the conference and yet Cornell has to go play Harvard @Harvard in the 1st round?????
Because Harvard is ranked higher in the pairwise comparisons...you know, that wonderful formula that everyone is so happy to have had replace the kind of human judgment that you allude to above.::help::
http://www.uscho.com/rankings/pwr_w.php
Seriously, I'm guessing Harvard's win and tie with Minnesota helped them a lot whereas our three-game losing streak to Syracuse and Providence, twice, hurt. Bottom line, their out-of-conference record was better.
Not just better, but much better. As mentioned they beat and tied Minny ,the third ranked team, tied UHN, a tourny team, and beat PU, UConn, BU, and Northeastern. Very good.
Cornell, on the other hand, went 1-6-0 out of conference in the regular season. Cornell's NC slate wasn't terrible - two games against #1 Mercyhurst, 2 more against a respectable Providence squad, and 3 against Syracuse and Niagara teams that were not top contenders but weren't chopped liver either. Even so, only winning 1 of those games really hurts.
If Cornell hadn't been playing with a depleted roster against Syracuse and PC then things might have been different in the pairwise, but they don't seed based on what might have happened. There is a silver lining - home ice hasn't historically been as big an advantage for women's teams, and Harvard is a pretty good match-up for Cornell. It's definitely a winnable first round game, home or away, although Harvard is a tough team and has the edge in NCAA experience.
Quote from: phillysportsfanI dont really follow the women's team so maybe you guys can explain this, how does Cornell beat Harvard once here, tie them in OT there, win the regular season, win the conference tournament while Harvard finishes 3rd in the conference and yet Cornell has to go play Harvard @Harvard in the 1st round?????
Title IX of the something or other act of 1972 afforded women equal opportunies in sports. Here, to get hosed in seedings and playoff sites with the same regularity as the men's teams. The NCAA can point to PWR ratings to explain.
Quote from: phillysportsfanI dont really follow the women's team so maybe you guys can explain this, how does Cornell beat Harvard once here, tie them in OT there, win the regular season, win the conference tournament while Harvard finishes 3rd in the conference and yet Cornell has to go play Harvard @Harvard in the 1st round?????
Simple Math::whistle::
Harvard had a much better out of conferenece record. That boosted their RPI and TUC wins significantly. So they won the Paiwise comparison with us, Clarkson and UHN.
Quote from: billhowardQuote from: phillysportsfanI dont really follow the women's team so maybe you guys can explain this, how does Cornell beat Harvard once here, tie them in OT there, win the regular season, win the conference tournament while Harvard finishes 3rd in the conference and yet Cornell has to go play Harvard @Harvard in the 1st round?????
Title IX of the something or other act of 1972 afforded women equal opportunies in sports. Here, to get hosed in seedings and playoff sites with the same regularity as the men's teams. The NCAA can point to PWR ratings to explain.
At least they didn't get sent to Minnesota.
Quote from: billhowardTitle IX of the something or other act of 1972 afforded women equal opportunies in sports. Here, to get hosed in seedings and playoff sites with the same regularity as the men's teams.
Bitching is a fundamental human right. I think it's in the UN Charter.
Yeah, but they probably call it "petitioning for redress of grievances" or something stupid like that. Jerks.
Quote from: Jeff Hopkins '82Simple Math::whistle::
Yep...where less than 25% of the season counts for more than the remainder. ::screwy::
Quote from: ithacatQuote from: Jeff Hopkins '82Simple Math::whistle::
Yep...where less than 25% of the season counts for more than the remainder. ::screwy::
Not quite accurate, since some of our season games were they same. OOC they were 6-0-1 and we were 1-6-0 against similar competition. In conf they were 13-6-3 and we were 14-2-6. They lost in the semi and we won the finals, that's effectively 2 more. So even if you compare these games equally, we have about 4 more wins in conf and they have 5 more OOC. Thus they have an overall record 1 game better than us, 20-7-5 vs 19-8-6. Now you may want to say the ECAC record or our H2H record is more important, but they don't. They look at all games, so we lose.
Quote from: Jim HylaQuote from: ithacatQuote from: Jeff Hopkins '82Simple Math::whistle::
Yep...where less than 25% of the season counts for more than the remainder. ::screwy::
Not quite accurate, since some of our season games were they same. OOC they were 6-0-1 and we were 1-6-0 against similar competition. In conf they were 13-6-3 and we were 14-2-6. They lost in the semi and we won the finals, that's effectively 2 more. So even if you compare these games equally, we have about 4 more wins in conf and they have 5 more OOC. Thus they have an overall record 1 game better than us, 20-7-5 vs 19-8-6. Now you may want to say the ECAC record or our H2H record is more important, but they don't. They look at all games, so we lose.
Thanks for saying that more clearly and less combatively than I would have. Bottom line, Harvard has a better overall record against a comparable schedule. That's why they have a better RPI (and incidentally also a better KRACH). Most of the complaints about Harvard being seeded higher seem to involve consideration of only a subset of the games played (ECAC games and head-to-head games), and in fact the pairwise comparison does give those extra consideration in the form of the common opponents and head-to-head criteria, but that's offset by Harvard's better record vs TUC (a different subset of the games) and RPI (again, something based on all of the games).
Quote from: jtwcornell91Quote from: Jim HylaQuote from: ithacatQuote from: Jeff Hopkins '82Simple Math::whistle::
Yep...where less than 25% of the season counts for more than the remainder. ::screwy::
Not quite accurate, since some of our season games were they same. OOC they were 6-0-1 and we were 1-6-0 against similar competition. In conf they were 13-6-3 and we were 14-2-6. They lost in the semi and we won the finals, that's effectively 2 more. So even if you compare these games equally, we have about 4 more wins in conf and they have 5 more OOC. Thus they have an overall record 1 game better than us, 20-7-5 vs 19-8-6. Now you may want to say the ECAC record or our H2H record is more important, but they don't. They look at all games, so we lose.
Thanks for saying that more clearly and less combatively than I would have. Bottom line, Harvard has a better overall record against a comparable schedule. That's why they have a better RPI (and incidentally also a better KRACH). Most of the complaints about Harvard being seeded higher seem to involve consideration of only a subset of the games played (ECAC games and head-to-head games), and in fact the pairwise comparison does give those extra consideration in the form of the common opponents and head-to-head criteria, but that's offset by Harvard's better record vs TUC (a different subset of the games) and RPI (again, something based on all of the games).
Translation: why has jtw (and others) been wasting his breath all these years about the process on the Men's side, if people aren't going to understand the exact same process for the Women's tournament?
Oh, and I've been meaning to post this:
We're the ECAC Champions!?!!!
HOLY CRAP!!!! Repeat:
::banana::
Cornell Women's Hockey won the ECAC Championship!!::banana::
I mean that is insane! Not enough congratulations are going out there, IMO. Bitching about a ho-hum NCAA bid. Seriously, I know that what used to be the de-facto National Championship isn't what it used to be, but come on! 6-8 years ago, this wouldn't have been fathomable.
Tremendous job, ladies. I'm extremely proud of this. CELEBRATE! WOOO!!!
Quote from: RichHQuote from: jtwcornell91Quote from: Jim HylaQuote from: ithacatQuote from: Jeff Hopkins '82Simple Math::whistle::
Yep...where less than 25% of the season counts for more than the remainder. ::screwy::
Not quite accurate, since some of our season games were they same. OOC they were 6-0-1 and we were 1-6-0 against similar competition. In conf they were 13-6-3 and we were 14-2-6. They lost in the semi and we won the finals, that's effectively 2 more. So even if you compare these games equally, we have about 4 more wins in conf and they have 5 more OOC. Thus they have an overall record 1 game better than us, 20-7-5 vs 19-8-6. Now you may want to say the ECAC record or our H2H record is more important, but they don't. They look at all games, so we lose.
Thanks for saying that more clearly and less combatively than I would have. Bottom line, Harvard has a better overall record against a comparable schedule. That's why they have a better RPI (and incidentally also a better KRACH). Most of the complaints about Harvard being seeded higher seem to involve consideration of only a subset of the games played (ECAC games and head-to-head games), and in fact the pairwise comparison does give those extra consideration in the form of the common opponents and head-to-head criteria, but that's offset by Harvard's better record vs TUC (a different subset of the games) and RPI (again, something based on all of the games).
Translation: why has jtw (and others) been wasting his breath all these years about the process on the Men's side, if people aren't going to understand the exact same process for the Women's tournament?
Oh, and I've been meaning to post this:
We're the ECAC Champions!?!!! HOLY CRAP!!!! Repeat:
::banana::Cornell Women's Hockey won the ECAC Championship!!::banana::
I mean that is insane! Not enough congratulations are going out there, IMO. Bitching about a ho-hum NCAA bid. Seriously, I know that what used to be the de-facto National Championship isn't what it used to be, but come on! 6-8 years ago, this wouldn't have been fathomable.
Tremendous job, ladies. I'm extremely proud of this. CELE
BRATE! WOOO!!!
100% agree!
Quote from: jtwcornell91Quote from: Jim HylaQuote from: ithacatQuote from: Jeff Hopkins '82Simple Math::whistle::
Yep...where less than 25% of the season counts for more than the remainder. ::screwy::
Not quite accurate, since some of our season games were they same. OOC they were 6-0-1 and we were 1-6-0 against similar competition. In conf they were 13-6-3 and we were 14-2-6. They lost in the semi and we won the finals, that's effectively 2 more. So even if you compare these games equally, we have about 4 more wins in conf and they have 5 more OOC. Thus they have an overall record 1 game better than us, 20-7-5 vs 19-8-6. Now you may want to say the ECAC record or our H2H record is more important, but they don't. They look at all games, so we lose.
Thanks for saying that more clearly and less combatively than I would have. Bottom line, Harvard has a better overall record against a comparable schedule. That's why they have a better RPI (and incidentally also a better KRACH). Most of the complaints about Harvard being seeded higher seem to involve consideration of only a subset of the games played (ECAC games and head-to-head games), and in fact the pairwise comparison does give those extra consideration in the form of the common opponents and head-to-head criteria, but that's offset by Harvard's better record vs TUC (a different subset of the games) and RPI (again, something based on all of the games).
I never said that how they calculate it accurately models current or future performance. Or that I even like how they calculate it (in fact I don't). All I said was that the methodology is defined and it explains why harvard is seeded above us.
Article on incoming freshman Hayleigh Cudmore...
http://www.insidehalton.com/community/oakvillebeaver/article/647846
Moved it to the Hockey Forum.