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General Category => Hockey => Topic started by: nyc94 on January 22, 2003, 02:42:29 PM

Title: Post the Ivy Standings
Post by: nyc94 on January 22, 2003, 02:42:29 PM
Could we get the standings posted on this site,  particularly the Ivy standings?  The only place I know to find them is the official Ivy League site which takes an eternity to load on dial up.  Make eLynah one stop shopping.
Title: Re: Post the Ivy Standings
Post by: CowbellGuy on January 22, 2003, 02:52:34 PM
Well, CHDB doesn't keep track of any games that Cornell's not in. Option 1 is to manually update the standings. It'll never get done. Option 2 is to attempt to extract the information from ivyleaguesports.com's page. The minute I get it working, they'll be sure to change their formatting and hose it. Option 3 is to compile scores based on the complete results from collegehockeystats.com. It's the most involved on my end, but it should, hopefully, stay consistent. But Option 3 won't be getting done any time soon.

Title: Re: Post the Ivy Standings
Post by: rhovorka on January 22, 2003, 03:06:14 PM
In addition, it doesn't even seem that the standings the Ivy League website has up are correct.  I count 3 Harvard Ivy losses (Brown, Cornell, Prince-bwhahaha-ton), and their standings list HU's Ivy record as 4-2.  I don't feel like going through to verify the other records.
http://ivyleaguesports.com/sports/standings.asp?intSID=8
Title: Re: Post the Ivy Standings
Post by: Keith K on January 22, 2003, 03:16:42 PM
Jonh Whelan has the Ivy standings updated every night at his web site:
http://slack.net/hockey .  They're listed in conjunction with the ECAC stats, so they're not in the right order though.
Title: Re: Post the Ivy Standings
Post by: nyc94 on January 22, 2003, 04:20:14 PM
I just thought since it only involved six teams and 30 games over four months that someone could do it manually.  I don't mean a huge compilation of statisitics.  I just want to know the W-L-T pts GF GA of each team.  I know it's out there.  I just want it closer to "home".
Title: Re: Post the Ivy Standings
Post by: CowbellGuy on January 22, 2003, 04:33:19 PM
Nothing done manually ever gets done. I'm almost done with option 3 anyway. Damn you. ::rolleyes::

Title: Re: Post the Ivy Standings
Post by: gwm3 on January 22, 2003, 04:43:53 PM
So "won't be getting done anytime soon" means done within 3 hours? ;-)
Title: Re: Post the Ivy Standings
Post by: jy3 on January 22, 2003, 04:54:43 PM
from john whelan's site:

Standings including games of 2003 January 21
# Team ECAC Ivy
               W-L-T PF-PA-PR GB Pct                W-L-T PF-PA-PR Pct

1 Cornell 9-1-0 18-2-24 -- .900                 4-1-0 8-2-10 .800

2 Harvard 11-3-0 22-6-16 -- .786              4-3-0 8-6-6 .571

3 Yale 7-5-0 14-10-20 3 .583                     3-5-0 6-10-4 .375

4 Brown 7-5-1 15-11-18 3 .577                  5-2-0 10-4-6 .714

5 Clarkson 5-4-1 11-9-24 3½ .550

6 Dartmouth 5-5-0 10-10-24 4 .500           3-2-0 6-4-10 .600

7 Union 4-5-2 10-12-22 4½ .455

8 Vermont 4-6-0 8-12-24 5 .400

9 Colgate 3-6-1 7-13-24 5½ .350

St. Lawrence 3-6-1 7-13-24 5½ .350

11 RPI 2-6-2 6-14-24 6 .300

12 Princeton 2-10-0 4-20-20 8 .167           1-7-0 2-14-4 .125

so that is that.
so  CU, Brown, DC, Hahvahd, Yale, PU in win% order

Title: Re: Post the Ivy Standings
Post by: Greg Berge on January 22, 2003, 05:02:11 PM
I have a running count of the Ivy results at http://www.spiritone.com/~kepler/2003/2003IvyResults.html
Title: Re: Post the Ivy Standings
Post by: nyc94 on January 22, 2003, 05:22:16 PM
                    W-L-T   Pts    GF   GA
Brown           5-2-0   10     26   17
Cornell          4-1-0     8     21     9
Harvard        4-3-0     8     26    21
Dartmouth   3-2-0     6      17   17
Yale             3-5-0     6       32   34
Princeton     1-7-0     2       11   36


I may have made math errors in my haste but this is what I had in mind.  I used Greg's results.  The Ivy League web site is slow to load and slow to be updated with results.
Title: Re: Post the Ivy Standings
Post by: CowbellGuy on January 22, 2003, 05:56:57 PM
CHDB now has ECAC and Ivy Standings. Click on the "Standings" link at the top, or the Standings link which will appear on the menubar here momentarily. You can sort each by anything listed by clicking on the column name.

Title: Re: Post the Ivy Standings
Post by: jtwcornell91 on January 22, 2003, 07:37:51 PM
Cool.  I was going to make a wisecrack about breaking ties by the ECAC tiebreaking procedure, but you might take it as a challenge and waste more time. ;-)

Title: Re: Post the Ivy Standings
Post by: CowbellGuy on January 22, 2003, 07:46:16 PM
Enough time wasted. Alphabetical it is =P

Title: Re: Post the Ivy Standings
Post by: DeltaOne81 on January 22, 2003, 08:32:22 PM
Well, there also is no tie breaking. Ivy League awards co-champions when it works out that way (right?).
Title: Re: Post the Ivy Standings
Post by: Greg Berge on January 22, 2003, 09:12:52 PM
Right.
Title: Re: Post the Ivy Standings
Post by: jy3 on January 22, 2003, 10:28:19 PM
thanks, age. that rocks :-D

Title: Re: Post the Ivy Standings
Post by: jtwcornell91 on January 22, 2003, 10:51:21 PM
Right, I meant for the ECAC.

Title: Re: Post the Ivy Standings
Post by: nyc94 on January 23, 2003, 12:31:51 AM
Awesome.  You're the man.