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Title: St. Lawrence 0 @ Cornell 1 Postgame Thread
Post by: Beeeej on December 06, 2008, 09:31:07 PM
Sounds like Scrivens did a great job getting the shutout.  Looking forward to thoughts and opinions from people who were actually there.
Title: Re: St. Lawrence 0 @ Cornell 1 Postgame Thread
Post by: upperdeck on December 06, 2008, 09:49:30 PM
hey he would have had one the night before if he handnt scored on himself..
Title: Re: St. Lawrence 0 @ Cornell 1 Postgame Thread
Post by: Trotsky on December 06, 2008, 10:08:17 PM
Cornell after 10 games (http://www.tbrw.info/weeklyUpdates/cornellColorAll.html), under Schafer; Pct  >= .800 in red.


1996 4-3-3
1997 6-3-1
1998 6-3-1
1999 6-3-1
2000 4-6-0
2001 5-3-2
2002 7-2-1
[color=#FF0000][b]2003[/b] 9-1-0[/color]
2004 3-2-5
2005 6-2-2
2006 6-3-1
2007 7-3-0
2008 4-5-1
[color=#FF0000][b]2009[/b] 7-1-2[/color]
Title: Re: St. Lawrence 0 @ Cornell 1 Postgame Thread
Post by: dragonfan on December 06, 2008, 11:16:26 PM
Gallagher played a great game and so did Scrivens,but I hate feeling like there just holding on,the second and third basically was controled by St.Lawrence.The only real stretch that we controled the game came after Gallaghers spectacular near goal in the first.
Title: Re: St. Lawrence 0 @ Cornell 1 Postgame Thread
Post by: Jim Hyla on December 06, 2008, 11:33:34 PM
Ok, I was there and the game was schizophrenic. They never played better than the first period, but the third, wow, why can't they play better defense. Gallagher never looked better. Yes his first period rush was amazing, but throughout the whole game he performed. I finally see why he's been on the PP all year. He and Scrivens were no doubt the best players tonight. R. Nash showed flashes of brilliance with his passing. I just hope he can stay another year with Greening.

But we either have to score more when we are playing well, or the defense when we are ahead has to be a lot better. We used to be so good at protecting a lead. It was only a couple of lucky bounces that kept SLU off the scoreboard. We have to stop taking inopportune penalties. Other teams would have put it to us.

That said, there is definitely something special about this team. They remind me of earlier teams of the 2000's. Somehow they find a way to win.

SLU looked a lot better than their record. Better than either 'gate or Clarkson. If they can continue to improve they will be around come ECAC tourney.

Now I'm over to Sioux sports to read up.
Title: Re: St. Lawrence 0 @ Cornell 1 Postgame Thread
Post by: Trotsky on December 06, 2008, 11:38:14 PM
[quote dragonfan]Gallagher played a great game and so did Scrivens,but I hate feeling like there just holding on,the second and third basically was controled by St.Lawrence.The only real stretch that we controled the game came after Gallaghers spectacular near goal in the first.[/quote]I'd prefer more games like Dartmouth and Clarkson, where Cornell controls play for large stretches, too.  They did do that tonight particularly in the first, when there seemed to be 5 five minutes stretches where the Saints did not control the puck in their offensive zone once.  But that sort of dominance is not going to be typical.


I think this weekend showed what Cornell can do when they are businesslike against an opponent playing a terrible game, and an opponent playing at the very top of their game, while the Grand Forks weekend showed what Cornell can do, against a businesslike opponent, playing a terrible game and playing at the very top of their game.  Out of that 2x2 matrix they played .750 -- a hopeful sign with the caveat that this squad cannot take a night off or they'll lose to Wayne State.  And those guys are disbanded.
Title: Re: St. Lawrence 0 @ Cornell 1 Postgame Thread
Post by: billhoward on December 07, 2008, 12:16:02 AM
YouTube was invented for incredible scoring moves like the one by Blake Gallagher in the first period. Except it went wide. Damn.

Even for a team averaging 20% on the PP, odds are not wildly in favor of their scoring on a five-minute major. But that was a big disappointment that we didn't capitalize on that game misconduct / five minute opportunity.

You can't tell from the video webcast (even if it's improving each year) whether Scrivens was good, great, or spectacular, but it appears as if he saved Cornell in the third.

Pretty decent way to head into exams.
Title: Re: St. Lawrence 0 @ Cornell 1 Postgame Thread
Post by: Jim Hyla on December 07, 2008, 12:24:12 AM
[quote billhoward]You can't tell from the video webcast (even if it's improving each year) whether Scrivens was good, great, or spectacular, but it appears as if he saved Cornell in the third. [/quote]

Scrivens was great, I don't know how to separate from spectacular, and lucky. There were many pipes and missed nets, so maybe that means not spectacular.
Title: Re: St. Lawrence 0 @ Cornell 1 Postgame Thread
Post by: BMac on December 07, 2008, 02:44:28 AM
Short game notes from my last game as a student :(

Gallagher- fantastic all weekend long. The scoring opportunity today was sportcenter top play material. Split two guys, beat a third, spun left, beat the goalie, and barely missed a blind backhand in on the spin. Every single person in the rink groaned.

5-minute penalty for hitting M.Kennedy from behind- 100% textbook, he could have been seriously hurt. Didn't get up for 30 seconds. Very bad penalty, I'm glad he's ok.

It's 9 o'clock on a Friday night- honestly, 15 people in A were staring holes into the digital clock on the wall under the catwalk between 8:59 and 9:00. As soon as it turned, we ALL started the cheer, and the whole rink finished it, with a resounding "YOU CAN'T SCORE! YOU CAN'T SCORE!"  I don't care if it's 1-0, we did good.

Scrivens- is a Deity. Capital D. The glove save at the end was beyond McKee-like. The townies all spontaneously stood, it was that good.

This is the 2004 team in too many ways- find a way to win, strong and physical, 2-1 and 1-0 games, awesome goalie, all wins at home except for a tie against toothpaste. And oh yeah, they seem like they will always win.
Title: Re: St. Lawrence 0 @ Cornell 1 Postgame Thread
Post by: Beeeej on December 07, 2008, 09:44:20 AM
[quote BMac]It's 9 o'clock on a Friday night- honestly, 15 people in A were staring holes into the digital clock on the wall under the catwalk between 8:59 and 9:00. As soon as it turned, we ALL started the cheer, and the whole rink finished it, with a resounding "YOU CAN'T SCORE! YOU CAN'T SCORE!"  I don't care if it's 1-0, we did good.[/quote]

For the love of God, would you please explain to the other fourteen people that the "9 o'clock" cheer is "It's 9 o'clock - do you know where your goalie is?" when we're up by a few goals, and "It's Saturday night, and you can't score" is completely different and has nothing to do with the time on the clock?!
Title: Re: St. Lawrence 0 @ Cornell 1 Postgame Thread
Post by: Rita on December 07, 2008, 10:19:47 AM
[quote Beeeej][quote BMac]It's 9 o'clock on a Friday night- honestly, 15 people in A were staring holes into the digital clock on the wall under the catwalk between 8:59 and 9:00. As soon as it turned, we ALL started the cheer, and the whole rink finished it, with a resounding "YOU CAN'T SCORE! YOU CAN'T SCORE!"  I don't care if it's 1-0, we did good.[/quote]

For the love of God, would you please explain to the other fourteen people that the "9 o'clock" cheer is "It's 9 o'clock - do you know where your goalie is?" when we're up by a few goals, and "It's Saturday night, and you can't score" is completely different and has nothing to do with the time on the clock?![/quote]

I don't think the TV stations air those PSAs anymore, thus I'm not sure the kids today get it. The PSAs were very popular in the late 70's/ early 80's (but the time was 10 o'clock, IIRC). Actually, it might not be a bad idea to bring them back.
Title: Re: St. Lawrence 0 @ Cornell 1 Postgame Thread
Post by: ugarte on December 07, 2008, 10:47:41 AM
[quote Rita][quote Beeeej][quote BMac]It's 9 o'clock on a Friday night- honestly, 15 people in A were staring holes into the digital clock on the wall under the catwalk between 8:59 and 9:00. As soon as it turned, we ALL started the cheer, and the whole rink finished it, with a resounding "YOU CAN'T SCORE! YOU CAN'T SCORE!"  I don't care if it's 1-0, we did good.[/quote]

For the love of God, would you please explain to the other fourteen people that the "9 o'clock" cheer is "It's 9 o'clock - do you know where your goalie is?" when we're up by a few goals, and "It's Saturday night, and you can't score" is completely different and has nothing to do with the time on the clock?![/quote]

I don't think the TV stations air those PSAs anymore, thus I'm not sure the kids today get it. The PSAs were very popular in the late 70's/ early 80's (but the time was 10 o'clock, IIRC). Actually, it might not be a bad idea to bring them back.[/quote]
The time in the PSA's was 10 o'clock, but I think you can see why Lynah moved it to 9.
Title: Re: St. Lawrence 0 @ Cornell 1 Postgame Thread
Post by: Chris '03 on December 07, 2008, 11:33:22 AM
[quote Rita]

I don't think the TV stations air those PSAs anymore, thus I'm not sure the kids today get it. The PSAs were very popular in the late 70's/ early 80's (but the time was 10 o'clock, IIRC). Actually, it might not be a bad idea to bring them back.[/quote]

It's 10 and they still air them in Connecticut.
Title: Re: St. Lawrence 0 @ Cornell 1 Postgame Thread
Post by: Cornell11 on December 07, 2008, 11:37:19 AM
at what minute in the redcast feed did gallagher make that incredible scoring move?
Title: Re: St. Lawrence 0 @ Cornell 1 Postgame Thread
Post by: Jordan 04 on December 07, 2008, 12:16:59 PM
I'm pretty air Fox 5 in NY still does them before the 10:00 news.
Title: Re: St. Lawrence 0 @ Cornell 1 Postgame Thread
Post by: Rita on December 07, 2008, 12:38:15 PM
[quote ugarte][quote Rita][quote Beeeej][quote BMac]It's 9 o'clock on a Friday night- honestly, 15 people in A were staring holes into the digital clock on the wall under the catwalk between 8:59 and 9:00. As soon as it turned, we ALL started the cheer, and the whole rink finished it, with a resounding "YOU CAN'T SCORE! YOU CAN'T SCORE!"  I don't care if it's 1-0, we did good.[/quote]

For the love of God, would you please explain to the other fourteen people that the "9 o'clock" cheer is "It's 9 o'clock - do you know where your goalie is?" when we're up by a few goals, and "It's Saturday night, and you can't score" is completely different and has nothing to do with the time on the clock?![/quote]

I don't think the TV stations air those PSAs anymore, thus I'm not sure the kids today get it. The PSAs were very popular in the late 70's/ early 80's (but the time was 10 o'clock, IIRC). Actually, it might not be a bad idea to bring them back.[/quote]
The time in the PSA's was 10 o'clock, but I think you can see why Lynah moved it to 9.[/quote]

Back when the games started at 7:30 and a team of thugs, like say Don Calhoun and the Princeton tigers, came to Lynah, the game actually did make it past 10 o'clock.

They should air those PSAs in IN. I grew up in CT and those ads seemed to be on all the time, and my parents did indeed know where I was at 10 pm.
Title: Re: St. Lawrence 0 @ Cornell 1 Postgame Thread
Post by: Giffy on December 07, 2008, 07:20:33 PM
The Gallagher play is at about 46:30 in the Redcast video.
Title: Re: St. Lawrence 0 @ Cornell 1 Postgame Thread
Post by: BMac on December 07, 2008, 08:15:24 PM
I'm going to refer you to Jim Hyla's comment on the SLU game thread-

Quote from: Jim Hylawe get way too critical about how people cheer. Let's be happy they do it; no one can say that only the people who post here know the correct way.

We've done it this way at least since I was a freshman in 04-05. It's funny. Everyone knows it. Relax.
Title: Re: St. Lawrence 0 @ Cornell 1 Postgame Thread
Post by: Beeeej on December 07, 2008, 08:29:51 PM
[quote BMac]I'm going to refer you to Jim Hyla's comment on the SLU game thread-

Quote from: Jim Hylawe get way too critical about how people cheer. Let's be happy they do it; no one can say that only the people who post here know the correct way.

We've done it this way at least since I was a freshman in 04-05. It's funny. Everyone knows it. Relax.[/quote]

Other than "it's funny" and "everyone knows it," I completely agree.  It doesn't make the slightest bit of sense.  What does the time on the clock have to do with the joke?

Oh, and I'm quite relaxed, thanks.
Title: Re: St. Lawrence 0 @ Cornell 1 Postgame Thread
Post by: imafrshmn on December 07, 2008, 08:32:27 PM
[quote BMac]I'm going to refer you to Jim Hyla's comment on the SLU game thread-

Quote from: Jim Hylawe get way too critical about how people cheer. Let's be happy they do it; no one can say that only the people who post here know the correct way.

We've done it this way at least since I was a freshman in 04-05. It's funny. Everyone knows it. Relax.[/quote]

I agree that there's nothing wrong with the current version or bastardization, as some would have it, of the 9 o'clock cheer.  The very nature of cheers is similar to folk tales in that they evolve over time and it's so tight-assed to feel the need to police our own cheering.  If students feel like they'll get hated on by other "better" fans for trying to introduce something new to the repertoire, well, you don't end up seeing much new material.
Title: Re: St. Lawrence 0 @ Cornell 1 Postgame Thread
Post by: KeithK on December 07, 2008, 09:47:37 PM
Mixing two cheers in a way that misses the point of both isn't introducing new material.
Title: Re: St. Lawrence 0 @ Cornell 1 Postgame Thread
Post by: Beeeej on December 07, 2008, 09:51:29 PM
[quote KeithK]Mixing two cheers in a way that misses the point of both isn't introducing new material.[/quote]

Geez, Keith, relax.
Title: Re: St. Lawrence 0 @ Cornell 1 Postgame Thread
Post by: BCrespi on December 07, 2008, 10:08:42 PM
[quote Beeeej][quote BMac]It's 9 o'clock on a Friday night- honestly, 15 people in A were staring holes into the digital clock on the wall under the catwalk between 8:59 and 9:00. As soon as it turned, we ALL started the cheer, and the whole rink finished it, with a resounding "YOU CAN'T SCORE! YOU CAN'T SCORE!"  I don't care if it's 1-0, we did good.[/quote]

For the love of God, would you please explain to the other fourteen people that the "9 o'clock" cheer is "It's 9 o'clock - do you know where your goalie is?" when we're up by a few goals, and "It's Saturday night, and you can't score" is completely different and has nothing to do with the time on the clock?![/quote]

Or, in this case, and as we've used MUCH more often for the 2000s-era teams, "It's 9:00.  Do you know where your offense is?

I'm not one to get my panties in a bunch about cheers.  The only reason this bothers me, is that the two cheers,in my opinion, are two of Lynah's best when done right.  In the end though, whatever keeps (?) the rink full and loud will work for me.
Title: Re: St. Lawrence 0 @ Cornell 1 Postgame Thread
Post by: Beeeej on December 07, 2008, 10:18:32 PM
[quote BCrespi][quote Beeeej][quote BMac]It's 9 o'clock on a Friday night- honestly, 15 people in A were staring holes into the digital clock on the wall under the catwalk between 8:59 and 9:00. As soon as it turned, we ALL started the cheer, and the whole rink finished it, with a resounding "YOU CAN'T SCORE! YOU CAN'T SCORE!"  I don't care if it's 1-0, we did good.[/quote]

For the love of God, would you please explain to the other fourteen people that the "9 o'clock" cheer is "It's 9 o'clock - do you know where your goalie is?" when we're up by a few goals, and "It's Saturday night, and you can't score" is completely different and has nothing to do with the time on the clock?![/quote]

Or, in this case, and as we've used MUCH more often for the 2000s-era teams, "It's 9:00.  Do you know where your offense is?

I'm not one to get my panties in a bunch about cheers.  The only reason this bothers me, is that the two cheers,in my opinion, are two of Lynah's best when done right.  In the end though, whatever keeps (?) the rink full and loud will work for me.[/quote]

I admit, this one does bother me - but probably more so because I was there the very first time the "Do you know where your goalie is?" cheer was done, back in the very early 1990s.  I don't think anybody is intentionally disrespecting the person who started it by combining them.  But I do feel (and obviously others agree) that these two cheers are, separately, fantastic, and that combining them just doesn't make sense.

That having been said, people are gonna do what they're gonna do.
Title: Re: St. Lawrence 0 @ Cornell 1 Postgame Thread
Post by: mnagowski on December 07, 2008, 10:29:14 PM
QuoteThat having been said, people are gonna do what they're gonna do.

For instance, speeding up the Let's Go Red chant like a record going from 33 to 45 RPM.
Title: Re: St. Lawrence 0 @ Cornell 1 Postgame Thread
Post by: Josh '99 on December 08, 2008, 01:58:45 AM
[quote Rita]Back when the games started at 7:30 and a team of thugs, like say Don Calhoun and the Princeton tigers, came to Lynah, the game actually did make it past 10 o'clock.[/quote]Nitpick:  Don Cahoon.
Title: Re: St. Lawrence 0 @ Cornell 1 Postgame Thread
Post by: ugarte on December 08, 2008, 10:38:01 AM
[quote Beeeej][quote BCrespi][quote Beeeej][quote BMac]It's 9 o'clock on a Friday night- honestly, 15 people in A were staring holes into the digital clock on the wall under the catwalk between 8:59 and 9:00. As soon as it turned, we ALL started the cheer, and the whole rink finished it, with a resounding "YOU CAN'T SCORE! YOU CAN'T SCORE!"  I don't care if it's 1-0, we did good.[/quote]

For the love of God, would you please explain to the other fourteen people that the "9 o'clock" cheer is "It's 9 o'clock - do you know where your goalie is?" when we're up by a few goals, and "It's Saturday night, and you can't score" is completely different and has nothing to do with the time on the clock?![/quote]

Or, in this case, and as we've used MUCH more often for the 2000s-era teams, "It's 9:00.  Do you know where your offense is?

I'm not one to get my panties in a bunch about cheers.  The only reason this bothers me, is that the two cheers,in my opinion, are two of Lynah's best when done right.  In the end though, whatever keeps (?) the rink full and loud will work for me.[/quote]

I admit, this one does bother me - but probably more so because I was there the very first time the "Do you know where your goalie is?" cheer was done, back in the very early 1990s.  I don't think anybody is intentionally disrespecting the person who started it by combining them.  But I do feel (and obviously others agree) that these two cheers are, separately, fantastic, and that combining them just doesn't make sense.

That having been said, people are gonna do what they're gonna do.[/quote]
The next time you go to Lynah, the cheer is going to be "Itsnineoclockandyoucantscore! Itsnineoclockandyoucantscore! Itsnineoclockandyoucantscore! ..." You will swipe a trombone and start swinging wildly at anyone cheering.
Title: Re: St. Lawrence 0 @ Cornell 1 Postgame Thread
Post by: polar on December 10, 2008, 08:29:50 PM
In case anyone missed it, there was a special visitor (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1-CKcWrA7r0) with the tubas on Saturday.
Title: Re: St. Lawrence 0 @ Cornell 1 Postgame Thread
Post by: ugarte on December 10, 2008, 08:50:00 PM
[quote polar]In case anyone missed it, there was a special visitor (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1-CKcWrA7r0) with the tubas on Saturday.[/quote]
And props to him for wearing red.
Title: Re: St. Lawrence 0 @ Cornell 1 Postgame Thread
Post by: LaJollaRed on December 14, 2008, 02:35:25 AM
Sorry if someone's already posted this:

http://www.collegehockeynews.com/news/pictorial.php?p=35