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Title: Game Two: Cornell 2 North Dakota 1 FINAL
Post by: ebilmes on November 29, 2008, 08:16:51 PM
2 15:07 Cor M. Kennedy sh 3 (Seminoff 4)

3 14:37 NoDak Hextall pp 5 (Miller 7, Genoway 13)
3 16:37 Cor Greening pp 4 (Barlow 4, B. Nash 2)

SOG were 30-23 Cornell.

Cornell improves to 5-1-2, NoDak 5-8-1.

Evan Barlow named player of the game. Edit: The second Cornell goal is now being given to Greening, which seems like the right call based on the replay.

NoDak 1x8 on the PP, Cornell 1x4 with the shortie.

Great result tonight. Let's go red.
Title: Re: Cornell 0 North Dakota 0 (1st)
Post by: tretiak on November 29, 2008, 08:21:50 PM
anybody know the line-up switches? i think it's whitney in for berk. are punches and nicholls playing tonight instead of kary and roeszler?
Title: Re: Cornell 0 North Dakota 0 (1st)
Post by: ACM on November 29, 2008, 08:23:09 PM
Whitney, Punches, Nicholls in ... Berk, Collins, Kary out
Title: Re: Cornell 0 North Dakota 0 (1st)
Post by: ACM on November 29, 2008, 08:27:36 PM
Punches gets tripped, Cornell goes on PP ... I'd give you the time, but Jason apparently doesn't think that's important
Title: Re: Cornell 0 North Dakota 0 (1st)
Post by: Chris '03 on November 29, 2008, 08:29:42 PM
[quote ACM]Punches gets tripped, Cornell goes on PP ... I'd give you the time, but Jason apparently doesn't think that's important[/quote]

Came it 12:54 according to livestats.
Title: Re: Cornell 0 North Dakota 0 (1st)
Post by: ACM on November 29, 2008, 08:32:40 PM
Gallagher for tripping
Title: Re: Cornell 0 North Dakota 1 (1st)
Post by: Chris '03 on November 29, 2008, 08:34:44 PM
Duncan on the PP. 1-0.
Title: Re: Cornell 0 North Dakota 1 (1st)
Post by: ACM on November 29, 2008, 08:34:53 PM
Duncan ppg ... 16:41 ... play being reviewed
Title: Re: Cornell 0 North Dakota 1 (1st)
Post by: Jim Hyla on November 29, 2008, 08:35:47 PM
Should be goalie interference.
Title: Re: Cornell 0 North Dakota 1 (1st)
Post by: ACM on November 29, 2008, 08:35:48 PM
no goal
Title: Re: Cornell 0 North Dakota 1 (1st)
Post by: Jim Hyla on November 29, 2008, 08:36:42 PM
[quote Jim Hyla]Should be goalie interference.[/quote]and it is.
Title: Re: Cornell 0 North Dakota 1 (1st)
Post by: ACM on November 29, 2008, 08:37:41 PM
should be an announcement over the PA as to why the goal was disallowed, but none forthcoming
Title: Re: Cornell 0 North Dakota 1 (1st)
Post by: Jim Hyla on November 29, 2008, 08:39:13 PM
Another dumb penalty.
Title: Re: Cornell 0 North Dakota 1 (1st)
Post by: Trotsky on November 29, 2008, 08:40:19 PM
Taylor Davenport is not having a good weekend.
Title: Re: Cornell 0 North Dakota 1 (1st)
Post by: ryeguy on November 29, 2008, 08:41:03 PM
Davenport needs to be off the PK. What is he doing? Scrivens is shaky.
Title: Re: Cornell 0 North Dakota 0 (1st)
Post by: polar on November 29, 2008, 08:41:12 PM
so what, the goal was disallowed to give a 5x3?
Title: Re: Cornell 0 North Dakota 0 (1st)
Post by: Jim Hyla on November 29, 2008, 08:42:41 PM
[quote polar]so what, the goal was disallowed to give a 5x3?[/quote]The goal was disallowed then the dumb crosschecking by Davenport for 5-3.
Title: Re: Cornell 0 North Dakota 0 (1st)
Post by: Chris '03 on November 29, 2008, 08:42:50 PM
[quote polar]so what, the goal was disallowed to give a 5x3?[/quote]

???

Goal disallowed. PP resumes. Davenport took a dumb penalty before the original minor ended, 5x3.
Title: Re: Cornell 0 North Dakota 1 (1st)
Post by: ACM on November 29, 2008, 08:44:02 PM
goal disallowed, no reason given ... then later Davenport took a penalty to create a 5x3
Title: Re: Cornell 0 North Dakota 0 (1st)
Post by: ryeguy on November 29, 2008, 08:45:29 PM
NoDak def has good movement on the PP. Need to stop taking foolish penalties.
Title: Re: Cornell 0 North Dakota 0 (1st)
Post by: ACM on November 29, 2008, 08:47:14 PM
Has there ever been a team that needed to take more foolish penalties?
Title: Re: Cornell 0 North Dakota 0 (1st)
Post by: ryeguy on November 29, 2008, 08:49:04 PM
[quote ACM]Has there ever been a team that needed to take more foolish penalties?[/quote]
Yeah... NoDak.
Title: Re: Cornell 0 North Dakota 1 (1st)
Post by: Jim Hyla on November 29, 2008, 09:01:47 PM
[quote ACM]goal disallowed, no reason given [/quote]
As I said goalie interference.
Title: Re: Cornell 0 North Dakota 0 (2nd)
Post by: Jim Hyla on November 29, 2008, 09:09:26 PM
Well, so far this season, especially this weekend, this is the best skating CU team that I've seen in a long time. If we could stop dumb penalties we would be looking fine.
Title: Re: Cornell 0 North Dakota 0 (2nd)
Post by: Rita on November 29, 2008, 09:20:56 PM
Joe Devin negates the rest of a Cornell PP.

Elbowing. More dumb penalties.
Title: Re: Cornell 0 North Dakota 0 (2nd)
Post by: Rosey on November 29, 2008, 09:22:04 PM
Michael Kennedy SHG.
Title: Re: Cornell 0 North Dakota 0 (2nd)
Post by: Trotsky on November 29, 2008, 09:23:17 PM
Nice time for it.  Now we see the wisdom of taking dumb penalties. ;-)
Title: Re: Cornell 0 North Dakota 1 (1st)
Post by: CM cWo 44 on November 29, 2008, 09:23:37 PM
SHORTIE
Title: Re: Cornell 0 North Dakota 0 (2nd)
Post by: ryeguy on November 29, 2008, 09:39:16 PM
Heads up play from M.Kennedy to see an opening and take the shot, instead of going for the pass during the 2 on 1. Same from Seminoff to give the puck up to Kennedy instead of dumping the puck in. Good period overall.
Title: Re: Cornell 0 North Dakota 1 (1st)
Post by: andyw2100 on November 29, 2008, 09:42:29 PM
It looked like the Kenedy goal was similar to Jillson's goal last night, beating the UND goalie on the short side.

I am really impressed with how easily UND is moving the puck around on the powerplay. I don't recall seeing nearly as many clean passes on powerplays in quite a long time. We --REALLY-- need to not take any more dumb penalties, because we're playing with fire playing these guys a man down.
Title: Re: Cornell 0 North Dakota 0 (2nd)
Post by: bernie on November 29, 2008, 09:43:13 PM
greening might have been better off passing on his subsequent 2 on 1
Title: Re: Cornell 0 North Dakota 0 (2nd)
Post by: ryeguy on November 29, 2008, 09:52:22 PM
Asking for them to tie it up.
Title: Re: Cornell 0 North Dakota 0 (2nd)
Post by: Jeff Hopkins '82 on November 29, 2008, 09:56:37 PM
Hey Mr. Timekeeper...how much time is left?
Title: Re: Cornell 0 North Dakota 0 (2nd)
Post by: ebilmes on November 29, 2008, 09:59:19 PM
10:37 left
Title: Re: Game Two: Cornell 1 North Dakota 0 (3rd)
Post by: Jeff Hopkins '82 on November 29, 2008, 09:59:39 PM
Thank you!
Title: Re: Cornell 0 North Dakota 0 (2nd)
Post by: andyw2100 on November 29, 2008, 09:59:42 PM
10:22.
Title: Re: Cornell 0 North Dakota 0 (2nd)
Post by: ryeguy on November 29, 2008, 09:59:45 PM
10:22
Title: Re: Cornell 0 North Dakota 0 (2nd)
Post by: polar on November 29, 2008, 10:00:58 PM
one second too late...

tewc
Title: Re: Game Two: Cornell 1 North Dakota 0 (3rd)
Post by: ryeguy on November 29, 2008, 10:04:57 PM
clearly a dive.
Title: Re: Cornell 0 North Dakota 0 (2nd)
Post by: Rita on November 29, 2008, 10:05:53 PM
Another 5 x 3. It is getting a little too hot in here.
Title: Re: Game Two: Cornell 1 North Dakota 0 (3rd)
Post by: ebilmes on November 29, 2008, 10:06:13 PM
Can't keep committing stupid penalties. Less than 7 left in the game.

5x3 expires...

Nice save Ben
Title: Re: Game Two: Cornell 1 North Dakota 0 (3rd)
Post by: Trotsky on November 29, 2008, 10:07:14 PM
PPs are 15-7 for the weekend.
Title: Re: Cornell 0 North Dakota 0 (2nd)
Post by: Rita on November 29, 2008, 10:07:14 PM
6:47 left. about 90 sec on a UND 5 x 4.

LGR!
Title: Re: Cornell 0 North Dakota 0 (2nd)
Post by: Trotsky on November 29, 2008, 10:07:53 PM
6:13
Title: Re: Game Two: Cornell 1 North Dakota 0 (3rd)
Post by: Cornell11 on November 29, 2008, 10:08:21 PM
how many 5 on 3s have there been?
Title: Re: Game Two: Cornell 1 North Dakota 0 (3rd)
Post by: Trotsky on November 29, 2008, 10:08:57 PM
5:33
Title: Re: Game Two: Cornell 1 North Dakota 0 (3rd)
Post by: Trotsky on November 29, 2008, 10:09:36 PM
Dang.  Hextall ties it up.
Title: Re: Cornell 1 North Dakota 1 (3rd)
Post by: Rita on November 29, 2008, 10:09:38 PM
Yup. It got too hot.

Hextall scores to tie it up at 1.

LGR!
Title: Re: Game Two: Cornell 1 North Dakota 0 (3rd)
Post by: Cornell11 on November 29, 2008, 10:09:44 PM
god damn, 3 seconds left on the power play
Title: Re: Game Two: Cornell 1 North Dakota 0 (3rd)
Post by: Trotsky on November 29, 2008, 10:10:41 PM
Even-up call.  Cornell with a pp.
Title: Re: Cornell 1 North Dakota 1 (3rd)
Post by: Rita on November 29, 2008, 10:11:35 PM
Penalty on UND.

2 min PP coming up. Hopefully we will get a full 2 min and avoid another dumb penalty.

LGR!
Title: Re: Cornell 1 North Dakota 1 (3rd)
Post by: Trotsky on November 29, 2008, 10:12:45 PM
[quote Rita]Hopefully we will get a full 2 min[/quote]Hopefully, we don't.
Title: Re: Game Two: Cornell 1 North Dakota 0 (3rd)
Post by: tretiak on November 29, 2008, 10:13:29 PM
finally barlow hits twine and not post!
Title: Re: Cornell 2 North Dakota 1 (3rd)
Post by: Rita on November 29, 2008, 10:13:55 PM
Barlow!!! PPG!!

3:14 left.
Title: Re: Game Two: Cornell 1 North Dakota 0 (3rd)
Post by: ugarte on November 29, 2008, 10:15:28 PM
[quote tretiak]finally barlow hits twine and not post![/quote]
Finally - all that refreshing paid off!
Title: Re: Cornell 2 North Dakota 1 (3rd)
Post by: Rita on November 29, 2008, 10:15:45 PM
[quote Trotsky][quote Rita]Hopefully we will get a full 2 min[/quote]Hopefully, we don't.[/quote]

Ok, Barlow showed us the correct way to cut a pp short. ;-)
Title: Re: Cornell 2 North Dakota 1 (3rd)
Post by: Rita on November 29, 2008, 10:17:03 PM
1:20 left
Title: Re: Cornell 2 North Dakota 1 (3rd)
Post by: ebilmes on November 29, 2008, 10:18:37 PM
Timeout NoDak. This is going to be a tough last minute.
Title: Re: Game Two: Cornell 2 North Dakota 1 (3rd)
Post by: ebilmes on November 29, 2008, 10:19:52 PM
Cornell timeout at 37.4
Title: Re: Cornell 2 North Dakota 1 (3rd)
Post by: Rita on November 29, 2008, 10:20:16 PM
39 seconds, UND pulled the goalie. Face-off at center ice.
Title: Re: Cornell 0 North Dakota 0 (2nd)
Post by: CM cWo 44 on November 29, 2008, 10:24:00 PM
2-1 CU Final
Title: Re: Game Two: Cornell 2 North Dakota 1 (F)
Post by: Tom Tone on November 29, 2008, 10:24:10 PM
It's all over.
Title: Re: Cornell 2 North Dakota 1 (F)
Post by: Rita on November 29, 2008, 10:24:15 PM
Cornell hangs on for the 2-1 win. ::banana::

This is the Cornell team I know and love. Grind out 1 goal wins and that keeps you wringing your hands until the end. :-)
Title: Re: Game Two: Cornell 2 North Dakota 1 FINAL
Post by: Jeff Hopkins '82 on November 29, 2008, 10:25:49 PM
Our kind of game.

I'll take a split on their ice.
Title: Re: Game Two: Cornell 2 North Dakota 1 FINAL
Post by: MattShaf on November 29, 2008, 10:26:44 PM
Nice resilient win. Makes you feel a little better about the weekend.
Now, lets see the Fighting Sioux light it up for the rest of the season!
Title: Re: Game Two: Cornell 2 North Dakota 1 FINAL
Post by: andyw2100 on November 29, 2008, 10:44:48 PM
Just a quick reminder to anyone who paid the $9.95 for the month of Sioux Sports Network access: the $9.95 renews automatically every month, so you may want to cancel your membership now, while you're thinking about it, unless you plan on watching other Sioux broadcasts, in which case just ignore this.
Title: Re: Game Two: Cornell 2 North Dakota 1 FINAL
Post by: ryeguy on November 29, 2008, 10:46:06 PM
[quote andyw2100]Just a quick reminder to anyone who paid the $9.95 for the month of Sioux Sports Network access: the $9.95 renews automatically every month, so you may want to cancel your membership now, while you're thinking about it, unless you plan on watching other Sioux broadcasts, in which case just ignore this.[/quote]

Did you see the 24 hour pass?
Title: Re: Cornell 2 North Dakota 1 (F)
Post by: ugarte on November 29, 2008, 10:48:06 PM
[quote Rita]Cornell hangs on for the 2-1 win. ::banana::

This is the Cornell team I know and love. Grind out 1 goal wins and that keeps you wringing your hands until the end. :-)[/quote]
Hey, Rancor... decisive enough for you?;-)
Title: Re: Game Two: Cornell 2 North Dakota 1 FINAL
Post by: Jim Hyla on November 29, 2008, 10:52:25 PM
[quote ryeguy][quote andyw2100]Just a quick reminder to anyone who paid the $9.95 for the month of Sioux Sports Network access: the $9.95 renews automatically every month, so you may want to cancel your membership now, while you're thinking about it, unless you plan on watching other Sioux broadcasts, in which case just ignore this.[/quote]

Did you see the 24 hour pass?[/quote]

Yeah, that's what I used tonight as well, but some who didn't have NHL access last night bought the month for both games.
Title: Re: Game Two: Cornell 2 North Dakota 1 FINAL
Post by: andyw2100 on November 29, 2008, 10:54:44 PM
I actually had not seen the 24 hour pass, but as Jim pointed out, I would have gone for the month anyway, (assuming 24 hours was more than $4.97) because I watched both games via the Sioux Sports Network,
Title: Re: Olympic Ice, Not UND
Post by: Oat on November 30, 2008, 01:19:26 PM
[quote andyw2100]
I am really impressed with how easily UND is moving the puck around on the powerplay. I don't recall seeing nearly as many clean passes on powerplays in quite a long time. We --REALLY-- need to not take any more dumb penalties, because we're playing with fire playing these guys a man down.[/quote]

UND passes only look easy because they're playing on Olympic-size ice surface. So there is more room for them to move the puck around.
Title: Re: Olympic Ice, Not UND
Post by: andyw2100 on November 30, 2008, 01:39:44 PM
[quote Oat][quote andyw2100]
I am really impressed with how easily UND is moving the puck around on the powerplay. I don't recall seeing nearly as many clean passes on powerplays in quite a long time. We --REALLY-- need to not take any more dumb penalties, because we're playing with fire playing these guys a man down.[/quote]

UND passes only look easy because they're playing on Olympic-size ice surface. So there is more room for them to move the puck around.[/quote]

Nope, not true.

The games were played on a 200' X 85' surface, just like the one at Lynah.

http://www.collegehockeynews.com/almanac/arenas.php
Title: Re: Game Two: Cornell 2 North Dakota 1 FINAL
Post by: ryeguy on November 30, 2008, 01:50:55 PM
[quote andyw2100]I actually had not seen the 24 hour pass, but as Jim pointed out, I would have gone for the month anyway, (assuming 24 hours was more than $4.97) because I watched both games via the Sioux Sports Network,[/quote]
Yes, it was $5.95 I believe. You found the better deal.
Title: Re: Olympic Ice, Not UND
Post by: Jacob 03 on November 30, 2008, 06:32:06 PM
[quote andyw2100][quote Oat][quote andyw2100]
I am really impressed with how easily UND is moving the puck around on the powerplay. I don't recall seeing nearly as many clean passes on powerplays in quite a long time. We --REALLY-- need to not take any more dumb penalties, because we're playing with fire playing these guys a man down.[/quote]

UND passes only look easy because they're playing on Olympic-size ice surface. So there is more room for them to move the puck around.[/quote]

Nope, not true.

The games were played on a 200' X 85' surface, just like the one at Lynah.

http://www.collegehockeynews.com/almanac/arenas.php[/quote]The Olympic Ice Surface must be UND's version of Dryden/1970.
Title: Re: Olympic Ice, Not UND
Post by: ugarte on November 30, 2008, 07:21:26 PM
[quote Jacob 03][quote andyw2100][quote Oat][quote andyw2100]
I am really impressed with how easily UND is moving the puck around on the powerplay. I don't recall seeing nearly as many clean passes on powerplays in quite a long time. We --REALLY-- need to not take any more dumb penalties, because we're playing with fire playing these guys a man down.[/quote]

UND passes only look easy because they're playing on Olympic-size ice surface. So there is more room for them to move the puck around.[/quote]

Nope, not true.

The games were played on a 200' X 85' surface, just like the one at Lynah.

http://www.collegehockeynews.com/almanac/arenas.php[/quote]The Olympic Ice Surface must be UND's version of Dryden/1970.[/quote]
I'd say it is the Bizarro Undefeated Dryden, as eLF is the only place that knows who Cropper is and the only place that keeps talking about the Olympic sheet at the Ralph.
Title: Re: Olympic Ice, Not UND
Post by: ajec1 on November 30, 2008, 07:59:17 PM
[quote ugarte][quote Jacob 03][quote andyw2100][quote Oat][quote andyw2100]
I am really impressed with how easily UND is moving the puck around on the powerplay. I don't recall seeing nearly as many clean passes on powerplays in quite a long time. We --REALLY-- need to not take any more dumb penalties, because we're playing with fire playing these guys a man down.[/quote]

UND passes only look easy because they're playing on Olympic-size ice surface. So there is more room for them to move the puck around.[/quote]

Nope, not true.

The games were played on a 200' X 85' surface, just like the one at Lynah.

http://www.collegehockeynews.com/almanac/arenas.php[/quote]The Olympic Ice Surface must be UND's version of Dryden/1970.[/quote]
I'd say it is the Bizarro Undefeated Dryden, as eLF is the only place that knows who Cropper is and the only place that keeps talking about the Olympic sheet at the Ralph.[/quote]

While not attempting to tear the space-time continuum, the Ralph does have an Olympic-sized practice sheet...
Title: Re: Olympic Ice, Not UND
Post by: dragonfan on November 30, 2008, 11:40:08 PM
To me it looks alot bigger,it could be the camera angle.Behind the net there is alot more room,the neutral zone might be smaller.
Title: Re: Olympic Ice, Not UND
Post by: amerks127 on December 01, 2008, 12:31:30 AM
[quote dragonfan]To me it looks alot bigger,it could be the camera angle.Behind the net there is alot more room,the neutral zone might be smaller.[/quote]

I initially thought that too.

When you consider IIHF ice rink dimensions are 200x100 and North American rinks are 200x85, the only difference might be width, not length, and REA certainly isn't any wider.  However, there is no mandatory length between the goal line and the end boards in the NCAA, so it's possible there was in fact more space behind the nets, giving the appearance of larger rink size.

Quote from: NCAA Rule Book ChangesRule 1-3 and 1-5. Rink Dimensions. The committee approved:


It is preferred that the goal line be 11 feet from the end boards. Additionally, the preferred size of the offensive zone is 64 feet.

Rationale: The committee believes the NHL standard dimensions are best for NCAA play. However, the committee also realizes the variety in current ice sizes and that some institutions do not control the facility in which they play. Therefore, these are the preferred dimensions, not requirements. USA Hockey also is adopting these preferred dimensions.
Title: Re: Olympic Ice, Not UND
Post by: Oat on December 01, 2008, 12:33:03 AM
[quote andyw2100][quote Oat]

UND passes only look easy because they're playing on Olympic-size ice surface. So there is more room for them to move the puck around.[/quote]

Nope, not true.

The games were played on a 200' X 85' surface, just like the one at Lynah.

http://www.collegehockeynews.com/almanac/arenas.php[/quote]

Eh I was wrong then, my bad. I heard it here somewhere sometime ago.

But I was watching the CU-NoDak games at the same time as the NHL games (two tvs next to each other) and I really thought that Ralph ice sheet looked bigger than the NHL ice in comparison.
Title: Re: Olympic Ice, Not UND
Post by: Killer on December 01, 2008, 10:22:21 AM
[quote dragonfan]To me it looks alot bigger,it could be the camera angle.Behind the net there is alot more room,the neutral zone might be smaller.[/quote]

We thought the same thing about it being big ice, just after they'd done the National Anthem.  The view from the camera looking across ths ice made it look friggin' wide as hell.  Didn't sit well.  We immediately thought of that Minnesota game in 2005.  Then they went to a shot from above and behind the goal and you could see that it was normal size.
Title: Re: Olympic Ice, Not UND
Post by: ftyuv on December 01, 2008, 10:57:20 AM
[quote dragonfan]To me it looks alot bigger,it could be the camera angle.[/quote]
[obligatory]That's what she said![/obligatory]
Title: Re: Olympic Ice, Not UND
Post by: KeithK on December 01, 2008, 12:53:07 PM
Also the radius of the corners can vary.  Very rounded corners might make the offensive zone look smaller.  (It has a lot more effect on dump ins.)
Title: Re: Olympic Ice, Not UND
Post by: Oat on December 01, 2008, 02:39:24 PM
[quote ftyuv][quote dragonfan]To me it looks alot bigger,it could be the camera angle.[/quote]
[obligatory]That's what she said![/obligatory][/quote]

Oh man. dragonfan just got owned on ELF.
Title: Re: Olympic Ice, Not UND
Post by: dragonfan on December 01, 2008, 06:09:24 PM
HA HA!!!