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Title: Mugford update
Post by: sah67 on November 19, 2008, 12:50:37 PM
Towards the bottom of this week's Brandom Thomas column in the IJ:

http://www.theithacajournal.com/article/20081119/SPORTS/811190322&referrer=FRONTPAGECAROUSEL
Title: Re: Mugford update
Post by: redhair34 on November 19, 2008, 12:53:31 PM
QuoteMugford on the mend

Schafer said it's still too early in the week to know exactly who will and will not be available for this weekend's games against Harvard and Dartmouth, but he did say that senior center Tyler Mugford has skated some to test out "different tape jobs" on his injured leg.

"If he can handle the pain and it doesn't swell up, we'll see what happens," Schafer said. "But he's at such an early stage, I would think he wouldn't play."
Title: Re: Mugford update
Post by: imafrshmn on November 19, 2008, 01:02:03 PM
Quote"When you go on the road it's very simple ... you're not trying to do too much and you don't have the crowd yelling at you on the power play to shoot all the time," Schafer said.
Title: Re: Mugford update
Post by: Josh '99 on November 19, 2008, 02:45:02 PM
Even if Mugford doesn't play this weekend, it's encouraging to read that he's skating.
Title: Re: Mugford update
Post by: Jim Hyla on November 19, 2008, 05:21:18 PM
Quote from: Brandon ThomasSadly for the Big Red, this is nothing new. Dating back to the 2006-07 season's playoffs, Cornell is 10-5-1 (.656 winning percentage) on the road against ECAC Hockey opponents, while it's home record against league foes over that span is 8-7-2 (.529).

Shows you how stats are sadly manipulated. The 2006-7 playoffs were losses to Q. So if you start with 2 home losses you're likely to have a worse home record. The 2 road games before that were also losses, to Harvard and Dartmouth. So why didn't he start there. Then the stats would be 10-7-1 (.583) vs. 8-7-2 (.529). Doesn't look so different now. Oh well.::rolleyes::
Title: Re: Mugford update
Post by: KeithK on November 19, 2008, 05:32:46 PM
It's hard to argue that stats can be and are manipulated.  But that doesn't change the qualitative truth of his statement.  One would expect that Cornell would play better at home than on the road.  The team typically has been better at home through the years.  Last year was a noteworthy aberation even if the numbers (8-5-2, .600) don't show that we were bad at home.
Title: Re: Mugford update
Post by: ugarte on November 19, 2008, 05:58:18 PM
Maybe the student section should STFU already and let the guys play hockey.
Title: Re: Mugford update
Post by: TimV on November 19, 2008, 07:17:12 PM
[quote ugarte]Maybe the student section should STFU already and let the guys play hockey.[/quote]

You mean "It's all our fault!"  ???::wtf::
Title: Re: Mugford update
Post by: French Rage on November 19, 2008, 07:18:02 PM
[quote ugarte]Maybe the student section should STFU already and let the guys play hockey.[/quote]

It's the fish throwing against Harvard that distracts them!  Real fans don't throw fish!

::crazy::
Title: Re: Mugford update
Post by: KeithK on November 19, 2008, 07:32:17 PM
[quote ugarte]Maybe the student section should STFU already and let the guys play hockey.[/quote]Agreed.  Except when a senior defenseman who has never scored a goal has the puck in last period of his last game.  (Felli, right?)


I also fully endorse fans yelling "Pix!"
Title: Re: Mugford update
Post by: Roy 82 on November 19, 2008, 10:50:54 PM
[quote KeithK]It's hard to argue that stats can be and are manipulated.  ...[/quote]

Actually, it is quite easy to argue that. QED.:-D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=teMlv3ripSM
Title: Re: Mugford update
Post by: Jim Hyla on November 20, 2008, 01:26:52 PM
[quote Roy 82][quote KeithK]It's hard to argue that stats can be and are manipulated.  ...[/quote]

Actually, it is quite easy to argue that. QED.:-D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=teMlv3ripSM[/quote]

No it isn't.

Presumably Keith meant "It's hard not to argue that stats can be and are manipulated."
Title: Re: Mugford update
Post by: KeithK on November 20, 2008, 01:47:11 PM
[quote Jim Hyla][quote Roy 82][quote KeithK]It's hard to argue that stats can be and are manipulated.  ...[/quote]

Actually, it is quite easy to argue that. QED.:-D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=teMlv3ripSM[/quote]

No it isn't.

Presumably Keith meant "It's hard not to argue that stats can be and are manipulated."[/quote]
I'm pretty sure that everyone knows what I meant regardless of how mangled my engineering prose may have been.  Though I fully respect the smartass response.
Title: Re: Mugford update
Post by: mnagowski on November 20, 2008, 09:50:40 PM
Quotehow mangled my engineering prose may have been

I just had an awful flashback to having to proofread an engineer's essay in a freshmen writing seminar. Thanks for that.
Title: Re: Mugford update
Post by: KeithK on November 21, 2008, 12:11:29 PM
[quote mnagowski]
Quotehow mangled my engineering prose may have been

I just had an awful flashback to having to proofread an engineer's essay in a freshmen writing seminar. Thanks for that.[/quote]
Any time!
Title: Re: Mugford update
Post by: CowbellGuy on November 21, 2008, 03:53:46 PM
Well, really, stats can't be manipulated, but how you interpret them can be.
Title: Re: Mugford update
Post by: Scersk '97 on November 21, 2008, 04:59:24 PM
Well, really, an interpretation can't be manipulated, but you can manipulate others through interpretation.

You can also manipulate objects, of course.  Like bananas! ::banana::