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Title: Cornell 0 Quinnipiac 0
Post by: Trotsky on November 08, 2008, 07:08:44 PM
Scrivens v Pisellini

Scrivens' weekend: 68 saves on 68 shots in 125 minutes.
Title: Re: Cornell 0 Quinnipiac 0 (1st)
Post by: pfibiger on November 08, 2008, 07:16:45 PM
I've heard Jillson and Collins both mentioned. Who is sitting?
Title: Re: Cornell 0 Quinnipiac 0 (1st)
Post by: pfibiger on November 08, 2008, 07:21:14 PM
I guess Joe Devin and Dan Nicholls..
Title: Re: Cornell 0 Quinnipiac 0 (1st)
Post by: Al DeFlorio on November 08, 2008, 07:21:31 PM
[quote pfibiger]I've heard Jillson and Collins both mentioned. Who is sitting?[/quote]
Punches in for Nichols?
Title: Re: Cornell 0 Quinnipiac 0 (1st)
Post by: Trotsky on November 08, 2008, 07:22:13 PM
I haven't heard Greening, Nicholls or Joe Scali yet.
Title: Re: Cornell 0 Quinnipiac 0 (1st)
Post by: Trotsky on November 08, 2008, 07:23:02 PM
Scali gets back in time to defeat a Q breakaway.
Title: Re: Cornell 0 Quinnipiac 0 (1st)
Post by: Trotsky on November 08, 2008, 07:24:59 PM
Dartmouth up at RPI, 1-0.  Break up the Big Green.
Title: Re: Cornell 0 Quinnipiac 0 (1st)
Post by: pfibiger on November 08, 2008, 07:25:52 PM
[quote Trotsky]I haven't heard Greening, Nicholls or Joe Scali yet.[/quote]

I've heard both. I'm pretty sure it's Punches for Nicholls and Kennedy for Devin.
Title: Re: Cornell 0 Quinnipiac 0 (1st)
Post by: Trotsky on November 08, 2008, 07:27:00 PM
[quote pfibiger]I'm pretty sure it's Punches for Nicholls and Kennedy for Devin.[/quote]Makes sense.


Q blows their second pp with an even-up.

Anybody heard Berk yet?  I've only got 5 D (Seminoff, B. Nash, Ross, M. Devin, Krueger).
Title: Re: Cornell 0 Quinnipiac 0 (1st)
Post by: Avash on November 08, 2008, 07:29:18 PM
[quote Trotsky][quote pfibiger]I'm pretty sure it's Punches for Nicholls and Kennedy for Devin.[/quote]Makes sense.


Q blows their second pp with an even-up.

Anybody heard Berk yet?  I've only got 5 D (Seminoff, B. Nash, Ross, M. Devin, Krueger).[/quote]

Berk's playing
Title: Re: Cornell 0 Quinnipiac 0 (1st)
Post by: Trotsky on November 08, 2008, 07:30:40 PM
RPI ties up DC 1-1.
Title: Re: Cornell 0 Quinnipiac 0 (1st)
Post by: TimV on November 08, 2008, 07:32:43 PM
Video just showed Q-Pac has a cowbell guy (lower case.)
Title: Re: Cornell 0 Quinnipiac 0 (1st)
Post by: TimV on November 08, 2008, 07:35:36 PM
Announcers disagree on scoreboard shots showing q 11 to C 4.

Q power play will start 2nd period.
Title: Re: Cornell 0 Quinnipiac 0 (end 1st)
Post by: Trotsky on November 08, 2008, 07:36:01 PM
Shots 12-6 Q after 1.  Cornell has now been outshot 55-25 through 4 periods, and has entered each of 3 intermissions shorthanded.
Title: Re: Cornell 0 Quinnipiac 0 (end 1st)
Post by: TimV on November 08, 2008, 07:44:39 PM
[quote Trotsky]Shots 12-6 Q after 1.  Cornell has now been outshot 55-25 through 4 periods, and has entered each of 3 intermissions shorthanded.[/quote]

Announcers said 11-4 (skeptically) with 4 seconds on clock. I saw no shots thereafter, but somehow the between period graphic came up with three more shots to make it 12-6.  Shot differential from last night also questioned, so I suspect it's really not that bad.
Title: Re: Cornell 0 Quinnipiac 0 (1st)
Post by: Josh '99 on November 08, 2008, 07:50:19 PM
[quote Trotsky][quote pfibiger]I'm pretty sure it's Punches for Nicholls and Kennedy for Devin.[/quote]Makes sense.


Q blows their second pp with an even-up.

Anybody heard Berk yet?  I've only got 5 D (Seminoff, B. Nash, Ross, M. Devin, Krueger).[/quote]Berk just plays very little, it seems - watching yesterday's game, I couldn't figure out who the sixth defenseman was and had to look it up after the game.
Title: Re: Cornell 0 Quinnipiac 0 (2nd)
Post by: Jordan 04 on November 08, 2008, 08:05:10 PM
Penalty shot!
Title: Re: Cornell 0 Quinnipiac 0 (1st)
Post by: imafrshmn on November 08, 2008, 08:05:49 PM
Barlow has a chance to make the first penalty shot since Nieuwendyk.... but it's not to be,
Title: Re: Cornell 0 Quinnipiac 0 (2nd)
Post by: Jordan 04 on November 08, 2008, 08:05:53 PM
Aaaaaand, still waiting after 21 years...
Title: Penalty Shot!!!
Post by: TimV on November 08, 2008, 08:06:13 PM
1987 last score...
Title: Still O for 21 years..
Post by: TimV on November 08, 2008, 08:06:59 PM
Damn...
Title: Re: Cornell 0 Quinnipiac 0 (2nd)
Post by: Al DeFlorio on November 08, 2008, 08:07:22 PM
Why do we even bother?  :`-(
Title: Re: Still O for 21 years..
Post by: upperdeck on November 08, 2008, 08:08:41 PM
last nights breakaway should have warned us.. shot right into the goalies gut..
Title: Same old Story...
Post by: TimV on November 08, 2008, 08:08:54 PM
Lack of Finishers.
Title: Re: Cornell 0 Quinnipiac 0 (1st)
Post by: imafrshmn on November 08, 2008, 08:09:08 PM
The gongshow continues... another pp chance for us.
Title: Re: Cornell 0 Quinnipiac 0 (2nd)
Post by: Trotsky on November 08, 2008, 08:09:25 PM
8 straight misses (http://www.tbrw.info/weeklyUpdates/cornellPenaltyShots.html).
Title: Re: Same old Story...
Post by: upperdeck on November 08, 2008, 08:11:27 PM
I would like Lemon's back.. great season and that would have capped it..
Title: Re: Cornell 0 Quinnipiac 0 (1st)
Post by: TimV on November 08, 2008, 08:12:57 PM
Try adding on to the end of the thread please.
Title: Re: Same old Story...
Post by: Jim Hyla on November 08, 2008, 08:17:37 PM
Great shift by the first line.
Title: Re: Same old Story...
Post by: Trotsky on November 08, 2008, 08:23:45 PM
And a nice kill on the Seminoff penalty, featuring a big Scrivens save.  Scoreless through 2, again.
Title: Re: Same old Story...
Post by: Trotsky on November 08, 2008, 08:25:00 PM
Per CU radio, shots are 18-13 Q, but I don't know which set of first period shots that includes.
Title: Cornell 0 Quinnipiac 0 (3rd)
Post by: Trotsky on November 08, 2008, 08:48:50 PM
Scrivens stops another shorty breakaway from Q.  This after the Red started to sound like they were moving the puck pretty well on pp.  14:43 left in the third, 0-0.
Title: Re: Cornell 0 Quinnipiac 0 (3rd)
Post by: Trotsky on November 08, 2008, 08:53:29 PM
Union 1 Harvard 1 in the third.

Cornell about to go on pp #8.
Title: Re: Still O for 21 years..
Post by: Jordan 04 on November 08, 2008, 08:54:16 PM
Some Frenchman to the sin bin for Q. Let's Go Red!
Title: Re: Still O for 21 years..
Post by: Trotsky on November 08, 2008, 08:59:03 PM
[quote Jordan 04]Some Frenchman to the sin bin for Q.[/quote]But now he gets free.
Title: Re: Still O for 21 years..
Post by: Jordan 04 on November 08, 2008, 09:00:36 PM
[quote Trotsky][quote Jordan 04]Some Frenchman to the sin bin for Q.[/quote]But now he gets free.[/quote]

Well, he is known as a Freedomman in the States.
Title: Re: Cornell 0 Quinnipiac 0 (1st)
Post by: Al DeFlorio on November 08, 2008, 09:05:17 PM
Sounds like we're finally getting some good shots on goal.
Title: Re: Cornell 0 Quinnipiac 0 (3rd)
Post by: Jim Hyla on November 08, 2008, 09:05:18 PM
I love how they say it is loud, when all you can hear is the canned music.
Title: Re: Cornell 0 Quinnipiac 0 (3rd)
Post by: Cactus12 on November 08, 2008, 09:06:53 PM
How much time left?
Title: Re: Cornell 0 Quinnipiac 0 (3rd)
Post by: sen '08 on November 08, 2008, 09:07:40 PM
4:13
Title: Re: Cornell 0 Quinnipiac 0 (3rd)
Post by: CowbellGuy on November 08, 2008, 09:08:52 PM
Does Jason understand how hockey works? Why on earth would it be 5x5 with matching minors.
Title: Re: Cornell 0 Quinnipiac 0 (3rd)
Post by: Al DeFlorio on November 08, 2008, 09:09:59 PM
Roeszler and Greening up front?
Title: Re: Cornell 0 Quinnipiac 0 (3rd)
Post by: Flyers1037 on November 08, 2008, 09:10:17 PM
if the penalties are for the same thing at the same time, it can be offsetting penalties and the teams still skate 5 on 5.
Title: Re: Cornell 0 Quinnipiac 0 (3rd)
Post by: Dpperk29 on November 08, 2008, 09:10:20 PM
[quote CowbellGuy]Does Jason understand how hockey works? Why on earth would it be 5x5 with matching minors.[/quote]

Happens that way under many sanctioning bodies, never heard of it in NCAA though.
Title: Re: Cornell 0 Quinnipiac 0 (3rd)
Post by: Jordan 04 on November 08, 2008, 09:13:33 PM
Free hockey!
Title: Re: Cornell 0 Quinnipiac 0 (3rd)
Post by: Josh '99 on November 08, 2008, 09:14:30 PM
[quote Jordan 04]Free hockey![/quote]Free hat?
Title: Re: Cornell 0 Quinnipiac 0 (3rd)
Post by: Cactus12 on November 08, 2008, 09:18:35 PM
punch and pie
Title: Re: Cornell 0 Quinnipiac 0 (3rd)
Post by: Jordan 04 on November 08, 2008, 09:21:13 PM
Frenchman off again.  PP the rest of the way.
Title: Re: Cornell 0 Quinnipiac 0 (3rd)
Post by: Al DeFlorio on November 08, 2008, 09:22:42 PM
No time out?
Title: Re: Cornell 0 Quinnipiac 0 (in ot)
Post by: DisplacedCornellian on November 08, 2008, 09:23:27 PM
Wong is scary.
Title: Re: Cornell 0 Quinnipiac 0 (3rd)
Post by: Jordan 04 on November 08, 2008, 09:24:03 PM
0-0 tie.
Title: Re: Cornell 0 Quinnipiac 0 (in ot)
Post by: kaelistus on November 08, 2008, 09:24:51 PM
3 Points on an away weekend? I'll take it!

Would have been nice to score, but I'm totally looking forward to the old super defensive teams that I grew up with while on the hill.
Title: Re: Cornell 0 Quinnipiac 0 (3rd)
Post by: Jim Hyla on November 08, 2008, 09:25:30 PM
[quote Jordan 04]0-0 tie.[/quote]

3 point weekend. Good play tonight. We have to be happy.
Title: Re: Cornell 0 Quinnipiac 0 (in ot)
Post by: upperdeck on November 08, 2008, 09:25:44 PM
can we start a pool on whether we get a penalty shot or power play goal first?
Title: Re: Cornell 0 Quinnipiac 0 (in ot)
Post by: DisplacedCornellian on November 08, 2008, 09:26:12 PM
So...this makes Scrivens' GAA and SV% pretty easy to calculate so far this season, doesn't it?
Title: Re: Cornell 0 Quinnipiac 0 (in ot)
Post by: Robb on November 08, 2008, 09:26:59 PM
[quote DisplacedCornellian]So...this makes Scrivens' GAA and SV% pretty easy to calculate so far this season, doesn't it?[/quote]
Not to mention win %.
Title: Re: Cornell 0 Quinnipiac 0 (3rd)
Post by: Rita on November 08, 2008, 09:27:13 PM
[quote Al DeFlorio]No time out?[/quote]

Cornell used their time out with ~ 6 minutes left in the 3rd.

Nice defensive effort this weekend and I'm certainly not going to complain about taking 3 points on the road and not giving up a goal all weekend. :-)

I think we can guess what they will be working on in practice this week. 0/8 (0/10?? with the 2 penalties in OT?). Ouch.
Title: Re: Cornell 0 Quinnipiac 0 (3rd)
Post by: upperdeck on November 08, 2008, 09:29:45 PM
I thought the puck movement vs Princ was pretty good on the PP. did it get worse tonight? but hey in the era of green everything we saved a lot of ink in the paper and game programs by needing only 1 line for goal scoring for the team.
Title: Trotsky- a question
Post by: TimV on November 08, 2008, 09:43:01 PM
Have we ever started out unscored upon after the first week in the league?
Title: Re: Trotsky- a question
Post by: Trotsky on November 08, 2008, 09:52:50 PM
[quote TimV]Have we ever started out unscored upon after the first week in the league?[/quote]

No.  Best since the 12-team league: 1 GA in 2002.
Title: Re: Trotsky- a question
Post by: scoop85 on November 08, 2008, 09:53:36 PM
[quote TimV]Have we ever started out unscored upon after the first week in the league?[/quote]

Have we ever scored one goal in two games and come away with three points?
Title: Re: Trotsky- a question
Post by: Larry72 on November 08, 2008, 09:57:47 PM
Starting off the season with two shutouts appears to be a first from what I can tell in looking at the archives.  The closest Cornell has ever come was back in the 1967-68 season:

11/25/67  7-0 over Loyola-Montreal (All non-conference games counted back then!)
11/29/67  8-1 over RPI
12/02/67  4-0 over Guelph

BTW, note the date when the season actually started.  Back then...hockey couldn't start till after the last football game. Fortunately that practice ended around 1983.
Title: Re: Trotsky- a question
Post by: Trotsky on November 08, 2008, 10:03:03 PM
[quote scoop85][quote TimV]Have we ever started out unscored upon after the first week in the league?[/quote]

Have we ever scored one goal in two games and come away with three points?[/quote]

No.  However, in consecutive games in 2005 they beat SLU and Colgate 1-0.

They have only scored 1 goal over consecutive league games 8 times (6 times under Schafer).  Fun fact: in consecutive games in 1973 they lost 9-0 to BU and 10-1 to UNH.
Title: Re: Trotsky- a question
Post by: Trotsky on November 08, 2008, 10:07:43 PM
[quote Larry72]Starting off the season with two shutouts appears to be a first from what I can tell in looking at the archives.[/quote]

In 1908 Cornell shut out their opponents in all 4 games. **]

In 1940, after two games they had given up 33 goals (9 to Colgate, 24 to BC).
Title: Matching penalties
Post by: David Harding on November 08, 2008, 10:33:08 PM
Quote from: NCAA Rule book, Rule 4, Section 2-e (2006)When penalties are not in effect and not visible on the clock and one minor penalty is assessed to one player of each team at the same stoppage of play, these penalties shall be served without substitution.


When penalties are not in effect and not visible on the clock and one minor penalty is assessed to one player of each team, with an additional penalty or penalties (minor or major) assessed at the same stoppage of play, immediate substitutions on ice shall be made for an equal number of coincidental minor penalties (penalties assessed during the same stoppage of play) to each team so penalized. The penalized players substituted for shall take their places on the penalty bench and shall not leave the penalty bench until the first stoppage of play after the expiration of their respective penalties. Penalties of the players for which substitutions have been made shall not be taken into account for the purpose of the delayed penalty rule (see 4-8-a).

When penalties are in effect and visible on the clock and coincidental minor penalties are imposed against players of both teams, immediate substitutions on ice shall be made for an equal number of coincidental minor penalties to each team so penalized. The penalized players substituted for shall take their places on the penalty bench and shall not leave the penalty bench until the first stoppage of play after the expiration of their respective penalties. Penalties of the players for which substitutions have been made shall not be taken into account for the purpose of the delayed penalty rule (see 4-8-a).

Any other penalties assessed at the same stoppage of play as minor penalties covered in this rule shall be served in the manner prescribed elsewhere in these rules and shall not affect the application of this rule.
Title: Re: Cornell 0 Quinnipiac 0 (3rd)
Post by: ACM on November 09, 2008, 11:55:18 AM
Let me try to translate into English the section of the rule book that David Harding posted ...

There is one, and only one, situation in which coincidental penalties affect on-ice manpower, and that is when both of the following conditions are in effect:
 - no penalties on the clock at the time the coincidental penalties are called (i.e., both teams at full and equal strength)
 - one, and only one, minor penalty called on each team.

In all other situations, the on-ice manpower is not affected by coincidental penalties.
Title: Re: Trotsky- a question
Post by: Killer on November 09, 2008, 02:05:14 PM
[quote Trotsky][quote scoop85][quote TimV]Have we ever started out unscored upon after the first week in the league?[/quote]

Have we ever scored one goal in two games and come away with three points?[/quote]

No.  However, in consecutive games in 2005 they beat SLU and Colgate 1-0.

They have only scored 1 goal over consecutive league games 8 times (6 times under Schafer).  Fun fact: in consecutive games in 1973 they lost 9-0 to beat BU 1-0 and lost 10-1 to UNH.[/quote]

I fixed the titanic error in your post.
Title: Re: Trotsky- a question
Post by: ursusminor on November 09, 2008, 03:24:18 PM
[quote Killer][quote Trotsky][quote scoop85][quote TimV]Have we ever started out unscored upon after the first week in the league?[/quote]

Have we ever scored one goal in two games and come away with three points?[/quote]

No.  However, in consecutive games in 2005 they beat SLU and Colgate 1-0.

They have only scored 1 goal over consecutive league games 8 times (6 times under Schafer).  Fun fact: in consecutive games in 1973 they lost 9-0 to beat BU 1-0 and lost 10-1 to UNH.[/quote]

I fixed the titanic error in your post.[/quote]

Wasn't that a decloe error?
Title: Re: Trotsky- a question
Post by: Killer on November 09, 2008, 04:54:44 PM
**][quote ursusminor][quote Killer][quote Trotsky][quote scoop85][quote TimV]Have we ever started out unscored upon after the first week in the league?[/quote]

Have we ever scored one goal in two games and come away with three points?[/quote]

No.  However, in consecutive games in 2005 they beat SLU and Colgate 1-0.

They have only scored 1 goal over consecutive league games 8 times (6 times under Schafer).  Fun fact: in consecutive games in 1973 they lost 9-0 to beat BU 1-0 and lost 10-1 to UNH.[/quote]

I fixed the titanic error in your post.[/quote]

Wasn't that a decloe error?[/quote]

Absolutely, but even when I tried it in French, it didn't translate to anything that made sense, so...