http://cornellsun.com/node/31695
http://cornellbigred.com/news/2008/9/15/MICE_0915081717.aspx
Does that seem needlessly complicated, or is it just me?
No, you and the process both seem needlessly complicated.
Are line numbers transferable? Or can you designate a proxy to wait in line and buy your tickets for you even if that person does not have a line number?
They charge the bursar account for the person connected to the ID of the active line number once the tickets are picked up but you after that, you can do what you wish with them (in the past 2 seasons, my group of friends have taken IDs from friends who don't care about hockey and had 2 line numbers just incase the one connected to our IDs didn't get activated and in both seasons the other numbers were better and we just wrote them a check for the cost of the tickets) Tickets are not "transferable" in that the ticketing office will not change the tickets to be in your name if they were connected to someone else's ID.
You can designate a proxy in The Line, the only time you need the ID connected to the line number is to pick up the tickets (which can be after seat selection). They tell you that you can hold up to 4 numbers in line but they never call more than 100 numbers at a time and it takes long enough to go through them that as long as you're organized you can hold many more numbers without a problem.
It is this time of year that I remember how much I love being issued my hockey tickets (it also serves other trivial tasks such as allowing me to eat and get into buildings) on my first day on campus at clarkson.
that being said... cornell couldn't get away with letting everyone in for free.
A columnist in today's Sun (http://cornellsun.com/section/opinion/content/2008/09/23/line-short-retrospective) says the right things:
QuoteI do have one suggestion for the athletics department, though. Although I think the lottery system serves it's [sic] purpose by distributing the tickets in a relatively fair and safe fashion, there's no way to ensure that those sitting in the most sought-after sections are the students that should be sitting there: those that follow the team week in and week out, always show up to games, and don't treat it as merely another extracurricular activity. Those people that actually would camp out days in advance if given the chance.
My suggestion is pretty simple: make the season tickets general admission. If you want the best seats, get to the game early. I can't imagine more than a couple hundred people would arrive at Lynah early enough for this to be a problem (I know I wouldn't be one of them). And, this way, you ensure that Section B is filled with the most dedicated and knowledgeable fans game in and game out. Penn changed their student basketball ticket system to general admission this year — why couldn't and shouldn't Cornell do the same with hockey?
Have they said exactly when/where the drawing will occur? I can't find it anywhere...
[quote hockeychick470]Have they said exactly when/where the drawing will occur? I can't find it anywhere...[/quote]
It's right in the 2nd link at the start of this thread:
"The ranges of line numbers for each block eligible to purchase tickets will be posted on CornellBigRed.com on Monday, September 29.
A waiting list will also be established for each block of tickets. The waiting list will begin with the line number that immediately follows the last eligible line number in each block of tickets. Students on the waiting list do not have to take part in Step 2. "
I spoke to Gene this week about the drawing. He said they hadn't decided between the SA and the Sports Marketing Group to do it, but my hunch is that Sports Marketing will do it during halftime at the homecoming football game...or somewhere around then.
In other news, he also told me the printing company for the tickets is out on strike and he didn't have anyone to print tickets yet. Gonna check in tomorrow morning.
Support organized labor.
Did anyone get a number late yesterday or today? When I went on tuesday it was still in the low 600s which seemed odd to me
[quote sms257]Did anyone get a number late yesterday or today? When I went on tuesday it was still in the low 600s which seemed odd to me[/quote]
Up to 1245 as of 4:30, with a line still.
I think there's a decent chance Athletics might extend the pick-up window through tomorrow. As of right now they wouldn't come close to selling out student tickets. I wouldn't be surprised to see an email to Sportspass holders or something tonight encouraging people to pick up numbers.
The whole system goes to shit if fewer than 1200 people (subtracting the 150 seniors) want tickets.
[quote ebilmes]A columnist in today's Sun (http://cornellsun.com/section/opinion/content/2008/09/23/line-short-retrospective) says the right things:
QuoteAnd, this way, you ensure that Section B is filled with the most dedicated and knowledgeable fans game in and game out.
[/quote]
Is this desirable?
$0 for every non-men's ice hockey and non-NCAA playoff sporting event at Cornell for students
$234 for hockey tickets plus stupid line procedure, plus no general admission.
Andy Noel and Gene must've been blind if they didn't expect this one to happen. There is no way student tickets will sell out this year. The process and/or price will change next year.
So much for packing Lynah Rink, coach.
More to come...
Sold out just fine with the old line procedures and similar prices. I think it all relates to how well the team did the year before, and last year's team didn't do that well so they won't be that popular.
[quote Jacob '06]Sold out just fine with the old line procedures and similar prices. I think it all relates to how well the team did the year before, and last year's team didn't do that well so they won't be that popular.[/quote]
Or, enough years have passed since we've been competitive nationally (only the seniors remember the '06 run) that there's not as high interest.
I think amerks' point was that with the free sports passes this year to all undergrads, there's even more of a stark contrast between hockey ticket prices and those for other sports.
[quote ebilmes]stark contrast between hockey ticket prices and those for other sports.[/quote]
Men's hockey needs to stay in the black -- it's the only sport at Cornell that is!
"I think amerks' point was that with the free sports passes this year to all undergrads, there's even more of a stark contrast between hockey ticket prices and those for other sports."
ebilmes is exactly right. it's almost like we'd talked about it before.
Thanks. I was surprised that they hadn't announced a specific game they would do the drawing during like they have the past few years... especially with homecoming this weekend
[quote amerks127]"I think amerks' point was that with the free sports passes this year to all undergrads, there's even more of a stark contrast between hockey ticket prices and those for other sports."
ebilmes is exactly right. it's almost like we'd talked about it before.[/quote]
From I believe '02-'05 every sport except hockey was free with your student ID. It has only been the past couple of years that you have had to pay for other sports b/c athletics screwed up and didn't submit their paperwork to the SA to get funding. Like I said, they used to sell out the hockey tickets with other sports free easily. It has a lot more to do with the popularity of the team than the cost.
You are reiterating our argument. At no point do we disagree. In fact, I agree with you that the reason the team isn't selling out is because of the relative mediocrity we have witnessed over the last few years coupled with higher prices during an economic downturn and a confusing line process. We tried to make that case in "Lamenting the Criminalization of the Lynah Faithful." (http://cornellsun.com/node/30396) As ebilmes correctly stated, only seniors (and those of us who watched games before arriving at Cornell) remember the '06 run.
Because the team was popular, Athletics could run the line and charge $234 for season tickets (though I seem to recall older students telling me that ticket prices were not that high back in the '02-'06 era). Now that the team isn't doing as well, the fact that athletics charges for hockey, when it could easily charge for bball or lax, becomes all the more apparent. There will be up to 150 unsold student tickets this season. Therefore, the process will have to change. The purpose of the line is defeated because supply exceeds demand.
With the current success of sports teams, it is all the more egregious that student hockey fans bear the burden of funding the athletic department, in terms of students paying for games. Hockey prices should drop while the cost of other sports should increase.
Would it behoove Athletics to discount the ticket prices a little bit this year--say, to $200-- to make sure the season tickets get sold out? Or, would it be too costly in terms of reducing some of the appeal of the product? These things, I don't know. What I do know is that if we aren't packing Lynah rink this year every game, the Faithful traditions and values will suffer.
[quote amerks127]Because the team was popular, Athletics could run the line and charge $234 for season tickets (though I seem to recall older students telling me that ticket prices were not that high back in the '02-'06 era).[/quote]
There was also the issue of SA funding, which stopped a few years back. Athletics increased hockey ticket prices to offset that loss in funding.
People keep talking about this non-sellout business like it's a novel thing. Undergrad season tickets haven't sold out for the last 3 or 4 years.
[quote CowbellGuy]People keep talking about this non-sellout business like it's a novel thing. Undergrad season tickets haven't sold out for the last 3 or 4 years.[/quote]
Last 2 years. '05-'06 was definitely sold out, but it was easier to do it with a couple hundred less seats available. edit: actually, the number of seats for students hasn't been changed by the renovation.
[quote imafrshmn]Would it behoove Athletics to discount the ticket prices a little bit this year--say, to $200-- to make sure the season tickets get sold out? Or, would it be too costly in terms of reducing some of the appeal of the product? These things, I don't know. What I do know is that if we aren't packing Lynah rink this year every game, the Faithful traditions and values will suffer.[/quote]
Cornell's hockey season ticket price is high if you're trying to make ends meet as a student. It's also a rounding error in your tuition/room/board. It's less than a lot of other schools charge. I'd be that dropping the price $35 or so wouldn't necessarily flex the supply/demand curve enough to both sell out the season ticket allotment and fill the seats.
If you dropped the price ridiculously low, to $49 for the season, Lynah would sell out, and then a lot of casual fans wouldn't come because they didn't have a lot invested in those tickets.
The numbers were (secretly) picked prior to the game, and they will be released be on Monday. I was told that all three numbers were "pretty high."
[quote amerks127]
Because the team was popular, Athletics could run the line and charge $234 for season tickets (though I seem to recall older students telling me that ticket prices were not that high back in the '02-'06 era).[/quote]
Not even close to that amount in that era, I remember them being even less than half that, somewhere in the $110 range.
[quote French Rage][quote amerks127]
Because the team was popular, Athletics could run the line and charge $234 for season tickets (though I seem to recall older students telling me that ticket prices were not that high back in the '02-'06 era).[/quote]
Not even close to that amount in that era, I remember them being even less than half that, somewhere in the $110 range.[/quote]
I am pretty sure my first set of season tickets ('03-'04) was $106, including the shirt.
IIRC, my first set of season tickets cost $32.
Of course, that was back when the dollar wasn't toilet paper...
[quote oceanst41][quote French Rage][quote amerks127]
Because the team was popular, Athletics could run the line and charge $234 for season tickets (though I seem to recall older students telling me that ticket prices were not that high back in the '02-'06 era).[/quote]
Not even close to that amount in that era, I remember them being even less than half that, somewhere in the $110 range.[/quote]
I am pretty sure my first set of season tickets ('03-'04) was $106, including the shirt.[/quote]
That sounds about right to me ('07 grad). Tickets were something like $110 and even though the team didn't do that well, it was a lot of fun.
In a related note, as a student, especially a freshman not knowing all that much about Cornell Hockey when I arrived on campus, I don't think I would have gotten season tickets if they charged me $234. I definitely would have gone to games since I've always been a hockey fan but if tickets are not going to be sold out then what's the point in throwing down that much cash all at once?
undergrad ticket prices:
08-09: $234 18 games ($13/game)
07-08: $247 19 games ($13/game)
06-07: $260 20 games ($13/game)
05-06: $152 19 games ($8/game)
04-05: $144 18 games ($8/game)
03-04: $109 19 games ($5.74/game)
available seats:
08-09 undergrad 1350 grad 250
07-08 undergrad 1400 grad 200
06-07 undergrad 1400 grad 200
05-06 ?
04-05 undergrad 1422 grad 200
03-04 ?
[quote imafrshmn]undergrad ticket prices:
08-09: $234 18 games ($13/game)
07-08: $247 19 games ($13/game)
06-07: $260 20 games ($13/game)
05-06: $152 19 games ($8/game)
04-05: $144 18 games ($8/game)
03-04: $109 19 games ($5.74/game)
available seats:
08-09 undergrad 1350 grad 250
07-08 undergrad 1400 grad 200
06-07 undergrad 1400 grad 200
05-06 ?
04-05 undergrad 1422 grad 200
03-04 ?[/quote]
I'm not sure of the breakdown either, but 03-04 (list?) and 05-06 (stampede!) were definitely sold out.
[quote BCrespi][quote imafrshmn]undergrad ticket prices:
08-09: $234 18 games ($13/game)
07-08: $247 19 games ($13/game)
06-07: $260 20 games ($13/game)
05-06: $152 19 games ($8/game)
04-05: $144 18 games ($8/game)
03-04: $109 19 games ($5.74/game)
available seats:
08-09 undergrad 1350 grad 250
07-08 undergrad 1400 grad 200
06-07 undergrad 1400 grad 200
05-06 ?
04-05 undergrad 1422 grad 200
03-04 ?[/quote]
I'm not sure of the breakdown either, but 03-04 (list?) and 05-06 (stampede!) were definitely sold out.[/quote]
Considering there were 2000 people in line by the time the line officially started in 03-04, I'm gonna go out on a limb and guess they sold out. ::nut::
[quote oceanst41][quote French Rage][quote amerks127]
Because the team was popular, Athletics could run the line and charge $234 for season tickets (though I seem to recall older students telling me that ticket prices were not that high back in the '02-'06 era).[/quote]
Not even close to that amount in that era, I remember them being even less than half that, somewhere in the $110 range.[/quote]
I am pretty sure my first set of season tickets ('03-'04) was $106, including the shirt.[/quote]I remember them costing like $90-something in the late '90s, but then, I didn't get a free shirt.
[quote Josh '99][quote oceanst41][quote French Rage][quote amerks127]
Because the team was popular, Athletics could run the line and charge $234 for season tickets (though I seem to recall older students telling me that ticket prices were not that high back in the '02-'06 era).[/quote]
Not even close to that amount in that era, I remember them being even less than half that, somewhere in the $110 range.[/quote]
I am pretty sure my first set of season tickets ('03-'04) was $106, including the shirt.[/quote]I remember them costing like $90-something in the late '90s, but then, I didn't get a free shirt.[/quote]
I don't think we got free tshirts either, from what I can remember they just tacked on $10 or something like that to the total if you wanted one.
undergrad numbers: 1028-1282 followed by numbers 1-1027.
senior numbers: 320-370 followed by numbers 1-99
grad numbers: 236-287 followed by numbers 1-235
My favorite part of the announcement:
QuoteStudents whose line number is not within the above ranges do not take part in the "The Line" and are automatically added to the waiting list.
Completely ignoring that every single person is eligible to purchase tickets this year.
Also, if a senior uses his or her "senior number" to purchase tickets, how will their undergrad number become invalidated? The ticket office stopped writing people's names on line numbers after the first couple days, and I'm pretty sure they didn't keep track of who picked up which number. So couldn't they just give their extra undergrad number to someone else?
Idiotic system...
Heh. Now, the Ramin Room camp-out really is pointless. And, once facetimers get the impression that hockey isn't where it's at anymore, there's the potential for a hundred more tickets to go unsold. Athletics has itself a problem this year.
[quote imafrshmn]Heh. Now, the Ramin Room camp-out really is pointless. And, once facetimers get the impression that hockey isn't where it's at anymore, there's the potential for a hundred more tickets to go unsold. Athletics has itself a problem this year.[/quote]
The campout has become the end instead of the means.
Anyone know if there are power outlets in the Ramin room?
Yes. Bring extension cords and surge protectors.
[quote jdonofrio]Anyone know if there are power outlets in the Ramin room?[/quote]
Not many...they get taken quickly too.
How quickly? Do they open the doors at 7 and it is just a rush to get in there and get the outlets or do they let people in there earlier than that? Does a line form outside before 7?
Quote from: jdonofrioHow quickly? Do they open the doors at 7 and it is just a rush to get in there and get the outlets or do they let people in there earlier than that? Does a line form outside before 7?
I recommend getting there at least an hour early to get a location close to a wall, that way you have a place to plug in and people don't have to walk over you to get to the middle. They usually divide the room into quarters by placing aisleways in an "X" shape down the middle of the room. There are no outlets in the middle of the room, only by the wall. As of last year there was also no wireless available in the room, so don't plan on that either.
I remember setting up a projector w/ a few friends and having a screening of the presidential debates in 2004. It was also pretty good for games and movies. I don't know if they allow them anymore but if you combine a projector (available to rent from the engineering library if not others) with some speakers and you can have a damn good time not letting other people around you sleep :-).
[quote nr53]I remember setting up a projector w/ a few friends and having a screening of the presidential debates in 2004. It was also pretty good for games and movies. I don't know if they allow them anymore but if you combine a projector (available to rent from the engineering library if not others) with some speakers and you can have a damn good time not letting other people around you sleep :-).[/quote]
Since I had been one of the more publicly vocal critics of how the line went in '91, I was asked to help police the sleepout in Lynah in '92 (back when that was actually still a means, not an end). I remember many of the Faithful doing a pretty good job not letting the people around them sleep after Lights Out by playing a rousing game of "Penis." :)
What is this "Penis" you speak of? Is there an online rulebook?::crazy::
[quote TimV]What is this "Penis" you speak of? Is there an online rulebook?::crazy::[/quote]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Penis_game
Ohhhhhhh. Okay... THAT penis game.::uptosomething::
[quote Beeeej][quote TimV]What is this "Penis" you speak of? Is there an online rulebook?::crazy::[/quote]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Penis_game[/quote]
There's a "vagina" version? Damn you Title IX!!!
Am I the only one who finds it amusing that the current sequence of messages in threaded view is:
[quote French Rage][quote Beeeej][quote TimV]What is this "Penis" you speak of? Is there an online rulebook?::crazy::[/quote]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Penis_game[/quote]
There's a "vagina" version? Damn you Title IX!!![/quote]
[quote mnagowski]Yes. Bring extension cords and surge protectors.[/quote]
[quote jtwcornell91]Am I the only one who finds it amusing that the current sequence of messages in threaded view is:
[quote French Rage][quote Beeeej][quote TimV]What is this "Penis" you speak of? Is there an online rulebook?::crazy::[/quote]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Penis_game[/quote]
There's a "vagina" version? Damn you Title IX!!![/quote]
[quote mnagowski]Yes. Bring extension cords and surge protectors.[/quote][/quote]
What? You don't think the surge protectors are necessary??
[quote TimV][quote jtwcornell91]Am I the only one who finds it amusing that the current sequence of messages in threaded view is:
[quote French Rage][quote Beeeej][quote TimV]What is this "Penis" you speak of? Is there an online rulebook?::crazy::[/quote]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Penis_game[/quote]
There's a "vagina" version? Damn you Title IX!!![/quote]
[quote mnagowski]Yes. Bring extension cords and surge protectors.[/quote][/quote]
What? You don't think the surge protectors are necessary??[/quote]
Do I have to show you that educational video on "Electro-Gonorrhea: The Noisy Killer"?
[quote French Rage][quote TimV][quote jtwcornell91]Am I the only one who finds it amusing that the current sequence of messages in threaded view is:
[quote French Rage][quote Beeeej][quote TimV]What is this "Penis" you speak of? Is there an online rulebook?::crazy::[/quote]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Penis_game[/quote]
There's a "vagina" version? Damn you Title IX!!![/quote]
[quote mnagowski]Yes. Bring extension cords and surge protectors.[/quote][/quote]
What? You don't think the surge protectors are necessary??[/quote]
Do I have to show you that educational video on "Electro-Gonorrhea: The Noisy Killer"?[/quote]
Shocking. Between this and the Nickerson subsection of the Harvard "Trouble in Paradise" thread this is getting very pathologically microbiological.
I heard today from the drum major of the marching band that they have a trip this weekend so the pep-band won't be appearing in The Line :(
[quote hockeychick470]I heard today from the drum major of the marching band that they have a trip this weekend so the pep-band won't be appearing in The Line :([/quote]
Oof, that's rough. The pep band's appearance in the morning always brightened up my Line time. We can only hope that Coach Schafer and the team come by.
[quote TimV][quote jtwcornell91]Am I the only one who finds it amusing that the current sequence of messages in threaded view is:
[quote French Rage][quote Beeeej][quote TimV]What is this "Penis" you speak of? Is there an online rulebook?::crazy::[/quote]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Penis_game[/quote]
There's a "vagina" version? Damn you Title IX!!![/quote]
[quote mnagowski]Yes. Bring extension cords and surge protectors.[/quote][/quote]
What? You don't think the surge protectors are necessary??[/quote]
Look, nobody could have foreseen that the surge protectors would have worked as well as they did.
Demand for tickets in the lottery era:
06-07 undergrad 1674 grad 326
07-08 undergrad 1598 grad 307
08-09 undergrad 1282 grad 287
[quote imafrshmn]Demand for tickets in the lottery era:
06-07 undergrad 1674 grad 326
07-08 undergrad 1598 grad 307
08-09 undergrad 1282 grad 287[/quote]
My guess is that they will sell less than 1000 tickets this year. Take out the people who picked up "extra" numbers and some people who simply won't show up for the line, and they're looking at some serious empty spaces down at the F/G end.
Quote from: eblimesMy guess is that they will sell less than 1000 tickets this year. Take out the people who picked up "extra" numbers and some people who simply won't show up for the line, and they're looking at some serious empty spaces down at the F/G end.
I think you are right only if you take grad seats out of the equation. My guess is that it will still be higher than a 1000, but just barely. Strictly looking at undergrads, I would say they'll sell all 150 senior numbers and maybe 900 undergrad seats if they're lucky, plus 200-250 grad seats. You are already down 150 undergrad numbers right off the bat because of seniors, so in reality there is maximum 1132 undergrad numbers. I think it's fair to say, based on previous years, that 200 of those will deactivate.
That puts my total somewhere around 1250-1300 out of 1600 available seats. Horrendous.
[quote amerks127]
Quote from: eblimesMy guess is that they will sell less than 1000 tickets this year. Take out the people who picked up "extra" numbers and some people who simply won't show up for the line, and they're looking at some serious empty spaces down at the F/G end.
I think you are right only if you take grad seats out of the equation. My guess is that it will still be higher than a 1000, but just barely. Strictly looking at undergrads, I would say they'll sell all 150 senior numbers and maybe 900 undergrad seats if they're lucky, plus 200-250 grad seats. You are already down 150 undergrad numbers right off the bat because of seniors, so in reality there is maximum 1132 undergrad numbers. I think it's fair to say, based on previous years, that 200 of those will deactivate.
That puts my total somewhere around 1250-1300 out of 1600 available seats. Horrendous.[/quote]
Yes, I meant without grad seats. Regardless, I don't think they'll sell all the grad seats; I have some friends with extra grad numbers they can't get rid of. There are always the people who get a line number thinking they'll make money (selling the Harvard ticket for $100 and the rest for close to face). I think those facetimers will realize there's hardly any demand for tickets this year and will stay home.
The point is that this whole camping out business only makes sense when demand exceeds supply, and for whatever reason, not a lot of people want tickets this year.
Quote from: eblimesQuote from: amerks127Quote from: eblimesYes, I meant without grad seats. Regardless, I don't think they'll sell all the grad seats; I have some friends with extra grad numbers they can't get rid of. There are always the people who get a line number thinking they'll make money (selling the Harvard ticket for $100 and the rest for close to face). I think those facetimers will realize there's hardly any demand for tickets this year and will stay home.
The point is that this whole camping out business only makes sense when demand exceeds supply, and for whatever reason, not a lot of people want tickets this year.
I think you are right only if you take grad seats out of the equation. My guess is that it will still be higher than a 1000, but just barely. Strictly looking at undergrads, I would say they'll sell all 150 senior numbers and maybe 900 undergrad seats if they're lucky, plus 200-250 grad seats. You are already down 150 undergrad numbers right off the bat because of seniors, so in reality there is maximum 1132 undergrad numbers. I think it's fair to say, based on previous years, that 200 of those will deactivate.
That puts my total somewhere around 1250-1300 out of 1600 available seats. Horrendous.
My guess is that they will sell less than 1000 tickets this year. Take out the people who picked up "extra" numbers and some people who simply won't show up for the line, and they're looking at some serious empty spaces down at the F/G end.
Agreed.
Graduate students chose their seats last night, all the seats in Section B and D (136 seats) were chosen, but only about 50-60 seats in Section G, meaning the graduate student tickets did not sell out.
Also, some of the players noticed the decrease in attendance at the line when they came into the Ramin Room around 8:45 and wondered what was going on.
Strikes me as something needs to be done about this ASAP. I would suggest that interested students start working with the different stakeholders -- Cornell Hockey Association, Pep Band, Red Key Society, S.A., The Sun, and the ticket office, and develop some sort of ad hoc committee to address the problem and make recommendations for next year, if not before the ECACHL season starts this year.
P.S. Anybody know when extra tickets will go on sale? I might as well try to pick some up.
I spoke to Gene last night about the supposed lack of interest this year. His response was that there are over 200 students on the waiting list and that he has no doubts about the tickets selling out.
In other news from the campout, last night featured a lengthy "meet the Red" session, teddy bear (for the Toss) selling, and the opportunity to take some shots (from 15-20 ft out) on freshman goalie Mike Garman using a piece of their artificial ice surface.
Also the tickets are thin again this year. Have any townie season ticket holders received their tickets?
[quote JDeafv]Also the tickets are thin again this year. Have any townie season ticket holders received their tickets?[/quote]
I received mine. The indivudal tickets in the sheet are narrow, and it's a only single page print out, not the usual two. Cheaper
Can't complain too much about how the "Line" was run this year. They increased the number of line checks so every number was checked multiple times. In contrast, two years ago, our numbers were never checked before it was time to buy tickets. Gene ran things professionally and everyone got out early. We missed the pep band this year; maybe Athletics could have arranged for an a cappella group or two to perform? It was tough to be as motivated to "camp out" this year knowing that demand for season tickets was so low. Interesting comment from JDeafv about the players noticing the decreased crowd in the Ramin Room...think they'll notice the big holes in Lynah this year?
Thanks to the CHA for sponsoring the Faithful t-shirts! It's nice to not have to put up the extra few dollars after we're already spending so much.
Anyone else catch the Ithaca-Rutgers game at Lynah last night? Something like 80 SOG combined in the 4-3 win for Rutgers.
[quote ebilmes]Can't complain too much about how the "Line" was run this year. They increased the number of line checks so every number was checked multiple times. In contrast, two years ago, our numbers were never checked before it was time to buy tickets. Gene ran things professionally and everyone got out early. We missed the pep band this year; maybe Athletics could have arranged for an a cappella group or two to perform? It was tough to be as motivated to "camp out" this year knowing that demand for season tickets was so low. Interesting comment from JDeafv about the players noticing the decreased crowd in the Ramin Room...think they'll notice the big holes in Lynah this year?
Thanks to the CHA for sponsoring the Faithful t-shirts! It's nice to not have to put up the extra few dollars after we're already spending so much.[/quote]
Agreed. I was especially pleased with Athletics' humanitarian decision to start the seat selection 2 hours early.
Anyone find out the number of unsold seats?
[quote ebilmes] We missed the pep band this year; maybe Athletics could have arranged for an a cappella group or two to perform? [/quote]
Tough without the pep band, but listening to them play after the winning TD, priceless. I posted a link on the Lehigh game thread but here it is as well on the CU page. (http://cornellbigred.com/news/2008/10/4/FB_1004081431.aspx)
I've heard (well, read) lots about the song Cornell Victorious. Does anyone have a recording of it?
[quote BMac]I've heard (well, read) lots about the song Cornell Victorious. Does anyone have a recording of it?[/quote]
Yeah. I have it on a Marching Band CD ("Through the Years") as well as a Glee Club CD ("Songs Of Cornell")
There's a short clip of it linked off of this page. (http://www.gleeclub.com/experience/songs_of_cornell.php?SUBSECTION_TITLE=Recordings&SUBSECTION_LINK=%2Fexperience%2Fsounds.php)
Lyrics can be found here:
http://www.cornellbigred.com/sports/2007/7/11/CornellTraditions.aspx?tab=traditions
Or you could've heard it from a handful of band alumni singing following the Homecoming win vs. Yale. When I was in school in the 1990s, it was the victory song...only played following football wins, and it was also bad luck to utter its title until the clock read 0:00. We referred to it most of the time as "#3"...the number on our cheer sheet music. So following wins, it was a good celebration when the drum major would shout with vigor, "Get up #3!!! *CORNELL VICTORIOUS!!!!*" thus ending the ban on saying the title for the day.
Sometime this decade, I think the football team wanted to sing it instead (more like bark it) as a team-bonding experience, so they asked the band not to play it so the players could be heard from the stands. After that year or 2, the Victory Song was somehow replaced with NCFS or something.
[quote RichH](more like bark it)[/quote]
A great example of said barking can be found at 13:58 of the following video when the football team attempts to sing the New Cornell Fight Song:
http://www.ibnsports.com/cornell.aspx
My apologies to your ear drums in advance.
But yes, Cornell Victorious is a great song. I'm still partial, however, to My Old Cornell and The Big Red Team.
I think it can be heard also on the clip ofthe final play of the Lehigh Game linked on that thread.
Sun hockey line blog (http://cornellsun.com/node/32475)
Quote from: Sun BloggerThe $247 season ticket price tag for my section B row 2 (!) tickets didn't seem so bad after I realized that unless I plant a human toe in my Ivy Room Italian wedding-style soup and sue the university for $10 million, I will never be able to afford seats this good at a professional sporting event.
Wasn't really sure where to put this, but Athletics called me today to tell me that my name has come up on the season tickets waiting list and I was eligilble to buy seats in section G.
I thought G was traditionally a student Section? Student tickets didn't sell out apparently.
Yes I bought them, and don't worry I am selling them to members of my family who are Loyal Cornell fans.
[quote Dpperk29]Wasn't really sure where to put this, but Athletics called me today to tell me that my name has come up on the season tickets waiting list and I was eligilble to buy seats in section G.
I thought G was traditionally a student Section? Student tickets didn't sell out apparently.
Yes I bought them, and don't worry I am selling them to members of my family who are Loyal Cornell fans.[/quote]
Do you mean that you were on the townie ticket waiting list (as opposed to the student 'waiting list')? This must mean that Gene exhausted every name on the student list and is dipping into the Townie pool to fill Lynah.
Was this an offer just for this season, or are those seats in G going permanently to townies?
[quote ebilmes]Was this an offer just for this season, or are those seats in G going permanently to townies?[/quote]
I finally got off the townie waiting list 2 seasons ago (with the expansion) and my seats are in Section G. There's a mix of townies and grad seats in that section, and there's the magical diagonal line in G that officially separates sitting from standing.
Welcome to G, Dpperk!
Townie and since he asked what address to send the renewal form next year I would guess permenent.
[quote Dpperk29]Townie and since he asked what address to send the renewal form next year I would guess permenent.[/quote]
I had heard there was a dramatic increase in the number of people called off the townie waiting list this year due to a number of people simply not renewing tickets.
I got townie tickets in G a couple years ago, and continue to renew them. I believe this is about my third season. Not the first time they've had to dip into the townie/alumni pool.
Athletics has been advertising a lot in the Sun, even for the exhibition game this weekend against Western Ontario.
Also, they're selling blocks of 5 or 10 season tickets at a discount to student organizations.
It will be interesting to see what other techniques they turn to as they get more and more desperate to fill Lynah.