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General Category => Hockey => Topic started by: ithacat on June 05, 2008, 04:25:06 PM

Title: Dartmouth player arrested
Post by: ithacat on June 05, 2008, 04:25:06 PM
Ouch...how to make a bad decision worse:

http://kstp.com/article/stories/S466618.shtml?cat=7
Title: Re: Dartmouth player arrested
Post by: Josh '99 on June 05, 2008, 10:33:54 PM
[quote ithacat]Ouch...how to make a bad decision worse:

http://kstp.com/article/stories/S466618.shtml?cat=7[/quote]Breaking into a house and then leading the police on a chase IS a good way to compound the bad decision to go to Dartmouth.
Title: Re: Dartmouth player arrested
Post by: Trotsky on June 06, 2008, 01:13:06 AM
As the police blotter in my town often says, "alcohol was presumed involved."
Title: Re: Dartmouth player arrested
Post by: Dpperk29 on June 06, 2008, 07:18:45 AM
[quote Trotsky]As the police blotter in my town often says, "alcohol was presumed involved."[/quote]

I am not going to pretend to be a grammar expert but either you (or your town's paper) left some words out of that quote or you are from Alabama (or the north country)
Title: Re: Dartmouth player arrested
Post by: CM cWo 44 on June 06, 2008, 10:00:12 AM
ESTO-______ !
Title: Re: Dartmouth player arrested
Post by: Trotsky on June 06, 2008, 06:30:23 PM
[quote Dpperk29][quote Trotsky]As the police blotter in my town often says, "alcohol was presumed involved."[/quote]

I am not going to pretend to be a grammar expert but either you (or your town's paper) left some words out of that quote or you are from Alabama (or the north country)[/quote]I may have lived next to WV for too long, but it looks okay to me.
Title: Re: Dartmouth player arrested
Post by: KenP on June 09, 2008, 08:10:09 AM
[quote Trotsky][quote Dpperk29][quote Trotsky]As the police blotter in my town often says, "alcohol was presumed involved."[/quote]

I am not going to pretend to be a grammar expert but either you (or your town's paper) left some words out of that quote or you are from Alabama (or the north country)[/quote]I may have lived next to WV for too long, but it looks okay to me.[/quote]
Alcohol was presumed to be involved.
Alcohol was presumably involved.
Presumably, alcohol was involved.
A presumtion can be made by those reading this sentence on the involvement of alcohol in the incident hitherto discussed.
Title: Re: Dartmouth player arrested
Post by: Robb on June 09, 2008, 09:11:13 AM
[quote Trotsky][quote Dpperk29][quote Trotsky]As the police blotter in my town often says, "alcohol was presumed involved."[/quote]

I am not going to pretend to be a grammar expert but either you (or your town's paper) left some words out of that quote or you are from Alabama (or the north country)[/quote]I may have lived next to WV for too long, but it looks okay to me.[/quote]

Me, too.  To write it out, the sentence would read, "Alcohol was presumed (to have been) involved."  Trotsky simply eliminated the past perfect form of the  verb "is" from the sentence.  If that doesn't work for you, try "The Dartmouth player's shirt was presumed green."  Stylistically it's perhaps a little archaic or poetic, but (in my opinion) it's grammatically okay, I think.
Title: Re: Dartmouth player arrested
Post by: French Rage on June 09, 2008, 02:11:51 PM
God I hate the offseason.
Title: Re: Dartmouth player arrested
Post by: Jeff Hopkins '82 on June 09, 2008, 05:11:07 PM
Well the only example I can think of that fits the "presumed involved" form is "presumed innocent until proven guilty."

In every other context I can think of, people generally do not exclude the "to be."
Title: Re: Dartmouth player arrested
Post by: ugarte on June 09, 2008, 06:33:34 PM
[quote Jeff Hopkins '82]Well the only example I can think of that fits the "presumed involved" form is "presumed innocent until proven guilty."

In every other context I can think of, people generally do not exclude the "to be."[/quote]
For whatever reason, the phrase "missing and presumed dead" popped into my head. And not only mine (http://search.yahoo.com/search?p=%22missing+and+presumed+dead%22&ei=UTF-8&fr=moz2).
Title: Re: Dartmouth player arrested
Post by: RichH on June 09, 2008, 09:41:41 PM
[quote Jeff Hopkins '82]Well the only example I can think of that fits the "presumed involved" form is "presumed innocent until proven guilty."

In every other context I can think of, people generally do not exclude the "to be."[/quote]

Unless your a Pittsburgh native, and "The lawn needs mowed" sounds right to yinz.

http://www.boston.com/bostonglobe/ideas/articles/2007/11/11/lawn_needs_cut/
Title: Re: Dartmouth player arrested
Post by: ftyuv on June 10, 2008, 06:03:26 PM
We might also remember that this was in a police blotter, not an English class.  Police blotters, like newspaper headlines and tech specs, often skimp on words.

Them fail English?  That's unpossible.
Title: Re: Dartmouth player arrested
Post by: Give My Regards on June 11, 2008, 05:49:33 PM
His MOM turned him in.  He is presumed not the favorite son.
Title: Re: Dartmouth player arrested
Post by: KeithK on June 11, 2008, 06:07:25 PM
[quote Give My Regards]His MOM turned him in.  He is presumed not the favorite son.[/quote]
Or maybe Mom had the sense to realize that if he turned himself in he might get away with a couple years of probation and not time in prison.  They've got him on pretty serious charges if they choose to throw the book at him.
Title: Re: Dartmouth player arrested
Post by: pfibiger on June 12, 2008, 08:44:24 AM
In other Ivy League hockey criminal news, Brown's Harry Zolnierczyk was sentenced to three years' probation, pleading guilty to voyeurism and child pornography charges. He was kicked off the team for the remainder of last year and remained at school. it's not clear if he'll be back with the team in the fall.

http://www.canada.com/victoriatimescolonist/news/story.html?id=6b227e64-2bf4-4e5b-998f-abb6f668d8ca
Title: Re: Dartmouth player arrested
Post by: billhoward on June 13, 2008, 08:14:54 AM
"Dartmouth Player Arrested" is what used to be called a standing head. You set the type in metal and waited until it was needed again. Like "GAO Cites Pentagon Cost Overruns" or "Sunk Turkish Ferry Was Overloaded with Holiday Pilgrims." (They never go down in midweek loaded with commuters.)
Title: Hey, Adam....Your Mom called...
Post by: TimV on June 17, 2008, 02:27:30 PM
And she said...
"YOU'RE UNDER ARREST!!!"::crazy::::crazy::
Title: Re: Dartmouth player arrested
Post by: polar on June 18, 2008, 12:25:26 AM
and if he is let back on, oh how much fun the dartmouth game will be :D
Title: Re: Hey, Adam....Your Mom called...
Post by: RinkRatInExile on June 21, 2008, 10:04:01 AM
I could see using that taunt, but I couldn't see using it on him at Dartmouth. Somehow, I doubt Estoclet is long for Hanover after this.
Title: Re: Dartmouth player arrested
Post by: djk26 on June 25, 2008, 11:46:31 AM
The article said that Zolnierczyk attended Brown on a "full hockey scholarship."  I will add the obligatory complaint that Canadian news outlets do not understand Ivy League scholarships.