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Title: ECAC Consy: Colgate 2 Cornell 4 (final)
Post by: TShen on March 22, 2008, 05:05:14 PM
Thank you seniors!

COR-1 Krantz (M. Kennedy) 13:45 1st
COL-1 Carty (Werner) 16:04 1st
COR-2 Sawada PPG (M. Devin, M. Kennedy) 7:31 2nd
COR-3 Krueger PPG (Scott, M. Kennedy) 8:57 2nd
COR-4 Greening PPG (B. Nash, R. Nash) 3:19 3rd
COL-2 Burton (Camper) 18:35 3rd
Title: Re: ECAC Consy: Colgate 1 Cornell 1 (2nd)
Post by: jkahn on March 22, 2008, 05:09:53 PM
Now 3-1 Cornell.  Sawada and Krueger have 2nd period goals.
See http://blog.collegehockeynews.com/?p=160 for Avash's live blog of the game.
Title: Re: ECAC Consy: Colgate 1 Cornell 4 (3rd)
Post by: jy3 on March 22, 2008, 05:41:46 PM
i was wondering what was going on with the game. it is not on tv that I can find here in the albany area on dish
Title: Re: ECAC Consy: Colgate 1 Cornell 4 (3rd)
Post by: Rita on March 22, 2008, 05:47:47 PM
Consy not worthy of TV coverage. The game is part of the B2 video package ($25 for all 4 games this weekend) or the RedCast audio.

Colgate has free audio.

According to my DirectTV guide, the ECAC finals will be shown on channel 625 (FSNY?).
Title: Re: ECAC Consy: Colgate 1 Cornell 4 (3rd)
Post by: Chris 02 on March 22, 2008, 05:51:28 PM
Who's playing goal for Cornell?
Title: Re: ECAC Consy: Colgate 1 Cornell 4 (3rd)
Post by: TShen on March 22, 2008, 05:52:23 PM
[quote Chris 02]Who's playing goal for Cornell?[/quote]
Scrivens.
Title: Re: ECAC Consy: Colgate 1 Cornell 4 (3rd)
Post by: hockeydude on March 22, 2008, 05:53:57 PM
I have to disagree with this decision by the Cornell coaching staff.
Title: Re: ECAC Consy: Colgate 1 Cornell 4 (3rd)
Post by: Rita on March 22, 2008, 05:54:26 PM
Scrivens is still in goal (I have been listening with "half an ear").

Mark Dekanich started in goal for Colgate but was replaced about halfway through the game by senior back-up Justin Kowalkoski.
Title: Re: ECAC Consy: Colgate 1 Cornell 4 (3rd)
Post by: TShen on March 22, 2008, 05:54:36 PM
Berk, Roeszler, and Nichols are skating. I guess Barlow, Fontas, and Taylor Davenport are out.
Title: Re: ECAC Consy: Colgate 1 Cornell 4 (3rd)
Post by: TShen on March 22, 2008, 05:56:14 PM
DiLeo is in for CU now.
Title: Re: ECAC Consy: Colgate 1 Cornell 4 (3rd)
Post by: shand35 on March 22, 2008, 05:57:16 PM
DeLeo now in goal for last. 3 minutes
Title: Re: ECAC Consy: Colgate 1 Cornell 4 (3rd)
Post by: hockeydude on March 22, 2008, 05:57:27 PM
good to see him get some time.
Title: Re: ECAC Consy: Colgate 1 Cornell 4 (3rd)
Post by: Rita on March 22, 2008, 06:10:43 PM
A nice way for the team (Scott and Sawada in particular) to finish out the season. Not exactly the game that they wanted to win to end the season, but still a good win.

I am happy for the hope that the team gave us as the calendar turned to spring that maybe, just maybe, they could play their way into the NC$$. Yes, it is a bummer that they didn't but they tried.

Thanks again Seniors!
Title: Re: ECAC Consy: Colgate 2 Cornell 4 (final)
Post by: ugarte on March 22, 2008, 06:46:15 PM
And they say that every team but one finishes the season with a loss!

[quote shand35]DeLeo now in goal for last 3 minutes. [/quote]
And gives up a goal. *sigh* (At least it was on a rebound and he got a save first.)
Title: Re: ECAC Consy: Colgate 2 Cornell 4 (final)
Post by: French Rage on March 22, 2008, 06:46:55 PM
We win the New York Belt!!!!
Title: Re: ECAC Consy: Colgate 2 Cornell 4 (final)
Post by: calgARI '07 on March 22, 2008, 07:00:21 PM
May be DiLeo's swan song playing hockey at Cornell.  With Garman coming in and no one graduating, I'm guessing either DiLeo or Davenport will not be on the team next year.
Title: Re: ECAC Consy: Colgate 2 Cornell 4 (final)
Post by: DeltaOne81 on March 22, 2008, 07:19:41 PM
[quote calgARI '07]May be DiLeo's swan song playing hockey at Cornell.  With Garman coming in and no one graduating, I'm guessing either DiLeo or Davenport will not be on the team next year.[/quote]

Is there an Ivy/ECAC/NCAA limit to the number of people you can have on the team? I know there is for how many are dressed of course, but is there any reason they couldn't have 4 goalies officially on the team in practices even if they don't travel, etc.
Title: Re: ECAC Consy: Colgate 2 Cornell 4 (final)
Post by: calgARI '07 on March 22, 2008, 07:44:49 PM
[quote DeltaOne81]

Is there an Ivy/ECAC/NCAA limit to the number of people you can have on the team? I know there is for how many are dressed of course, but is there any reason they couldn't have 4 goalies officially on the team in practices even if they don't travel, etc.[/quote]

I don't know of any limit but it is extremely rare for any team at any level to carry four goaltenders.
Title: Re: ECAC Consy: Colgate 2 Cornell 4 (final)
Post by: beejj on March 22, 2008, 08:07:09 PM
[quote calgARI '07][quote DeltaOne81]

Is there an Ivy/ECAC/NCAA limit to the number of people you can have on the team? I know there is for how many are dressed of course, but is there any reason they couldn't have 4 goalies officially on the team in practices even if they don't travel, etc.[/quote]

I don't know of any limit but it is extremely rare for any team at any level to carry four goaltenders.[/quote]
Well that clears that up.  Thanks.::bugeye::
Title: Re: ECAC Consy: Colgate 2 Cornell 4 (final)
Post by: DeltaOne81 on March 22, 2008, 08:25:24 PM
[quote calgARI '07]
I don't know of any limit but it is extremely rare for any team at any level to carry four goaltenders.[/quote]

I've no doubt it is, but I wonder i that's because its extremely rare for an team to have recruited 4 goalies in 4 years. I'd wonder in those few cases where they have, whether its rare or not or them to keep them on the roster.

Other levels may be different because we know they have a total roster limit.
Title: Re: ECAC Consy: Colgate 2 Cornell 4 (final)
Post by: calgARI '07 on March 22, 2008, 08:31:41 PM
[quote DeltaOne81]

I've no doubt it is, but I wonder i that's because its extremely rare for an team to have recruited 4 goalies in 4 years. I'd wonder in those few cases where they have, whether its rare or not or them to keep them on the roster.

[/quote]

Well Davenport is a pretty special case.  Obviously he was recruited the first time but I wonder how much he was pursued to come back.  Schafer was definitely not a huge fan of the guy at one point for leaving the team mid-season (and rightfully so).  DiLeo is clearly fourth in terms of ability but it wouldn't shock me if Davenport was the odd man out.  Schafer has cut players before, most recently McLeod who he of course later asked back.
Title: Re: ECAC Consy: Colgate 2 Cornell 4 (final)
Post by: beejj on March 22, 2008, 08:35:10 PM
[quote calgARI '07][quote DeltaOne81]

I've no doubt it is, but I wonder i that's because its extremely rare for an team to have recruited 4 goalies in 4 years. I'd wonder in those few cases where they have, whether its rare or not or them to keep them on the roster.

[/quote]

Well Davenport is a pretty special case.  Obviously he was recruited the first time but I wonder how much he was pursued to come back.  Schafer was definitely not a huge fan of the guy at one point for leaving the team mid-season (and rightfully so).  DiLeo is clearly fourth in terms of ability but it wouldn't shock me if Davenport was the odd man out.  Schafer has cut players before, most recently McLeod who he of course later asked back.[/quote]
He was asked back because we lost players late to the pros and he lost weight and finally got himself in decent shape.  I tend to doubt he would have been asked back if there was anyone else to fill the roster spot at that point in the offseason.
Title: Re: ECAC Consy: Colgate 2 Cornell 4 (final)
Post by: Jacob '06 on March 22, 2008, 08:43:06 PM
I'm pretty sure SLU carried four goaltenders this year. I don't think it is unheard of.
Title: Re: ECAC Consy: Colgate 2 Cornell 4 (final)
Post by: calgARI '07 on March 22, 2008, 08:46:48 PM
[quote Jacob '06]I'm pretty sure SLU carried four goaltenders this year. I don't think it is unheard of.[/quote]

Not unheard of, just extremely rare.
Title: Re: ECAC Consy: Colgate 2 Cornell 4 (final)
Post by: ithacat on March 22, 2008, 09:08:18 PM
[quote calgARI '07][quote Jacob '06]I'm pretty sure SLU carried four goaltenders this year. I don't think it is unheard of.[/quote]

Not unheard of, just extremely rare.[/quote]

Maybe it's a growing trend: Harvard and Yale appear to be joining the 4G club next season.
Title: Re: ECAC Consy: Colgate 2 Cornell 4 (final)
Post by: calgARI '07 on March 22, 2008, 09:11:42 PM
Has Cornell ever carried four goaltenders before?
Title: Re: ECAC Consy: Colgate 2 Cornell 4 (final)
Post by: billhoward on March 22, 2008, 09:27:51 PM
Maybe a team carries four goalies if two (three?) will be seniors or you fear a non-senior might jump after next year and you're unsure of the pipeline?
Title: Re: ECAC Consy: Colgate 2 Cornell 4 (final)
Post by: mhand06 on March 23, 2008, 12:30:50 PM
we had Davenport, Dileo, Scrivens,
Title: Re: ECAC Consy: Colgate 2 Cornell 4 (final)
Post by: RichH on March 23, 2008, 03:41:28 PM
Say what you will about the usefulness of consolation games, but in years like this, I feel very consoled.  It was good for me to wash out the bad feelings and have a chance to say "goodbye" to this year's version of the Cornell team, as well as get another look at Colgate's good senior class.

And hey, we can now claim to be one of 3 teams in the nation to finish their season with a win.  Maine (didn't make playoffs), NMU (CCHA Consy), and the winner of the Big One are the others.

Edit: added Maine.
Title: Re: ECAC Consy: Colgate 2 Cornell 4 (final)
Post by: ebilmes on March 23, 2008, 04:52:14 PM
I think at one point our PP unit was Roeszler - Nicholls - Mugford - Berk - Krueger or something similar.

Great to see DiLeo play.

It was disappointing to see Cornell in the early game, but I agree with RichH that it's definitely nicer to end the season with a win than to go home after the loss to Harvard.
Title: Re: ECAC Consy: Colgate 2 Cornell 4 (final)
Post by: Chris 02 on March 23, 2008, 05:24:56 PM
[quote RichH]Say what you will about the usefulness of consolation games, but in years like this, I feel very consoled.  It was good for me to wash out the bad feelings and have a chance to say "goodbye" to this year's version of the Cornell team, as well as get another look at Colgate's good senior class.

And hey, we can now claim to be one of 3 teams in the nation to finish their season with a win.  NMU and the winner of the Big One are the others.[/quote]

Actually Maine finished its season with 3 wins.  But it didn't make the Hockey East playoffs.  Merrimack also didn't make the playoffs, but lost their last couple of games.
Title: Re: ECAC Consy: Colgate 2 Cornell 4 (final)
Post by: Al DeFlorio on March 23, 2008, 06:46:52 PM
[quote Chris 02]Actually Maine finished its season with 3 wins.  But it didn't make the Hockey East playoffs.  Merrimack also didn't make the playoffs, but lost their last couple of games.[/quote]
Nice to see that someone, somewhere didn't make the playoffs.  Seeing twelfth-place teams in the playoffs and teams with losing records invited to play for the national championship just makes me scratch my head.  Why not just send 'em all to Harvard and give 'em A+?
Title: Re: ECAC Consy: Colgate 2 Cornell 4 (final)
Post by: Trotsky on March 23, 2008, 07:13:08 PM
[quote RichH]Say what you will about the usefulness of consolation games, but in years like this, I feel very consoled.  It was good for me to wash out the bad feelings and have a chance to say "goodbye" to this year's version of the Cornell team, as well as get another look at Colgate's good senior class.[/quote]And watch Harvard lose.  And watch a really interesting and talented Princeton team get what they deserved.  I agree -- this was the only SF-losing weekend I've ever enjoyed.  It's probably because just getting back to Albany felt like a gift.

Next year -- not so much.  I think they are returning enough that they ought to challenge for the title.
Title: Re: ECAC Consy: Colgate 2 Cornell 4 (final)
Post by: ajc69 on March 23, 2008, 11:35:56 PM
Hey, I'm a senior and have become rather attached to our senior hockey boys (in a non-sorority girl way :-P). I'm hoping to find a picture of the three guys hugging just before they got off the ice to be able to frame, any ideas?
Title: Re: ECAC Consy: Colgate 2 Cornell 4 (final)
Post by: ebilmes on March 24, 2008, 12:03:08 AM
[quote ajc69]Hey, I'm a senior and have become rather attached to our senior hockey boys (in a non-sorority girl way :-P). I'm hoping to find a picture of the three guys hugging just before they got off the ice to be able to frame, any ideas?[/quote]

The guy who I assume is the official athletic department photographer was there and taking lots of pictures. He usually wears a Hawaiian shirt. I'm not  sure how to contact him, but he probably got a shot of the hug.
Title: Re: ECAC Consy: Colgate 2 Cornell 4 (final)
Post by: RichH on March 24, 2008, 02:31:24 AM
[quote Chris 02]Actually Maine finished its season with 3 wins.  But it didn't make the Hockey East playoffs.  Merrimack also didn't make the playoffs, but lost their last couple of games.[/quote]

Right you are...post edited.  I still haven't gotten used to HEA not having an odd # of teams, and only looked up last-place Merrimack's finish.  Also not used to a program like Maine not making the playoffs.
Title: Re: ECAC Consy: Colgate 2 Cornell 4 (final)
Post by: Give My Regards on March 24, 2008, 12:05:58 PM
[quote calgARI '07]Has Cornell ever carried four goaltenders before?[/quote]

I don't know if they were all technically on the roster at the same time, but in the 1986-87 season, the Big Red had four goaltenders appear in games:  Jim Edmands, Darin McInnes (who left after fall semester), Don Fawcett, and Wayne Skelton.

Looks like it happened in 1976-77 also, with Steve Napier and John Vandermark seeing most of the action but Kevin Wang and Mike Doyle appearing in a game each.

(roster information courtesy of http://www.tbrw.info/)
Title: Re: ECAC Consy: Colgate 2 Cornell 4 (final)
Post by: redice on March 24, 2008, 12:32:50 PM
[quote calgARI '07]May be DiLeo's swan song playing hockey at Cornell.  With Garman coming in and no one graduating, I'm guessing either DiLeo or Davenport will not be on the team next year.[/quote]

Unless Davenport cops an attitude (about lack of playing time), it will be DiLeo who is the odd man out.   In one way, it's most unfortunate; in another way, it's nice to see what is obviously an upgrade to the goaltending situation.
Title: Re: ECAC Consy: Colgate 2 Cornell 4 (final)
Post by: RichH on March 24, 2008, 01:11:52 PM
...or maybe Scrivens has been secretly training for the basketball team.  I've noticed he likes to leave his skates a little too much for my comfort, but this vertical is pretty impressive in full gear:

http://news.yahoo.com/nphotos/slideshow/photo//080321/483/713fdd3502984cc5971f01c3c0ef0ec7/
Title: Re: ECAC Consy: Colgate 2 Cornell 4 (final)
Post by: Give My Regards on March 24, 2008, 01:29:45 PM
[quote RichH]...or maybe Scrivens has been secretly training for the basketball team.  I've noticed he likes to leave his skates a little too much for my comfort, but this vertical is pretty impressive in full gear:

http://news.yahoo.com/nphotos/slideshow/photo//080321/483/713fdd3502984cc5971f01c3c0ef0ec7/[/quote]

Since Pelle wound up scoring Harvard's last two goals, it's a shame Scrivens couldn't have "oopsie" kicked him in the head or something mid-leap.
Title: Re: ECAC Consy: Colgate 2 Cornell 4 (final)
Post by: Beeeej on March 24, 2008, 03:21:16 PM
[quote ajc69]Hey, I'm a senior and have become rather attached to our senior hockey boys (in a non-sorority girl way :-P). I'm hoping to find a picture of the three guys hugging just before they got off the ice to be able to frame, any ideas?[/quote]

mha got a decent shot:

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=35498419&id=414202

(http://photos-d.ak.facebook.com/photos-ak-sctm/v215/81/71/414202/n414202_35498419_4206.jpg)
Title: Re: ECAC Consy: Colgate 2 Cornell 4 (final)
Post by: mha on March 24, 2008, 04:04:33 PM
I got several, and can upload more of them.
Title: Re: ECAC Consy: Colgate 2 Cornell 4 (final)
Post by: mha on March 24, 2008, 04:06:10 PM
That's Ned Dykes, and I can ask him if he got additional shots. Here's a link to that Facebook album...

http://cornell.facebook.com/album.php?aid=2176715&id=414202

...and the Flickr set...

http://www.flickr.com/photos/mhaithaca/sets/72157604223895309/

Lots of overlap, but not identical sets.
Title: Re: ECAC Consy: Colgate 2 Cornell 4 (final)
Post by: mha on March 24, 2008, 04:08:47 PM
[quote ajc69]I'm hoping to find a picture of the three guys hugging just before they got off the ice to be able to frame, any ideas?[/quote]

For framing purposes, I'd be happy to send you the full-resolution originals. Send me a private message here or on Facebook.
Title: Re: ECAC Consy: Colgate 2 Cornell 4 (final)
Post by: BMac on March 24, 2008, 09:54:49 PM
Hi mha (and others),

Does anyone happen to have photos of the home Sucks game of the poster show in Section A right before the game?

I'd LOVE to get a good shot from that.

Thanks in advance.
Title: Re: ECAC Consy: Winchester now a Sen
Post by: Rita on March 24, 2008, 11:40:53 PM
Not quite sure where to put this and it didn't seem like it was worth a new thread.

Colgate's Jesse Winchester signed a one year contract (http://senators.nhl.com/team/app/?service=page&page=NewsPage&articleid=357956) with the Ottawa Senators.

Winchester's comments on the signing are here. (http://senators.nhl.com/team/app/?service=page&page=NewsPage&articleid=357972) He had some nice things to say about his 4 year college experience.
Title: Re: ECAC Consy: Winchester now a Sen
Post by: Al DeFlorio on March 25, 2008, 07:34:24 AM
[quote Rita]Not quite sure where to put this and it didn't seem like it was worth a new thread.

Colgate's Jesse Winchester signed a one year contract (http://senators.nhl.com/team/app/?service=page&page=NewsPage&articleid=357956) with the Ottawa Senators.

Winchester's comments on the signing are here. (http://senators.nhl.com/team/app/?service=page&page=NewsPage&articleid=357972) He had some nice things to say about his 4 year college experience.[/quote]
Dartmouth's J.T. Wyman signed a few days ago, I think also after four years.
Title: Re: ECAC Consy: Winchester now a Sen
Post by: CowbellGuy on March 25, 2008, 10:56:40 AM
Wasn't it Winchester that Joe N. was scouting during the Colgate-Cornell weekend? Maybe he wasn't too impressed ;)
Title: Re: ECAC Consy: Winchester now a Sen
Post by: Jordan 04 on March 25, 2008, 05:52:49 PM
A truly remarkable accomplishment to have not missed a game in 4 years, especially considering his size and the intensity with which he played.

To state the obvious, Topher will be missed.
Title: Re: ECAC Consy: Winchester now a Sen
Post by: Trotsky on March 26, 2008, 02:01:40 PM
[quote Jordan 04]A truly remarkable accomplishment to have not missed a game in 4 years, especially considering his size and the intensity with which he played.

To state the obvious, Topher will be missed.[/quote]Big time.  I hope next year's leaders are strong -- they have a huge freshman class to indoctrinate into the Cornell Way.