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Title: Nieuwy 500 Countdown: 1!!!!!
Post by: Greg Berge on January 08, 2003, 07:36:23 PM
One more for Joe Nieuwendyk to reach 500 career RS goals in the NHL.

His upcoming games:

Friday, 1/10 at Florida
Saturday, 1/11 at Tampa
Monday, 1/13 Florida
Wednesday, 1/15 Islanders
Title: Re: Nieuwy 500 Countdown: 1!!!!!
Post by: ugarte on January 08, 2003, 08:19:02 PM
So, Greg,  when he scores #500 in overtime on 1/15, will you cheer?

Title: Re: Nieuwy 500 Countdown: 1!!!!!
Post by: Greg Berge on January 08, 2003, 10:06:38 PM
Hell yeah, we still get a point.  ;-)
Title: Re: Nieuwy 500 Countdown: 1!!!!!
Post by: Al DeFlorio on January 12, 2003, 10:54:53 PM
No 500th goal tonight, but 30 stitches for Joe after being hit by a puck on his right ear.:-/

Title: Re: Nieuwy 500 Countdown: 1!!!!!
Post by: Anne 85 on January 14, 2003, 09:34:29 AM
Ow!!  And he still played over 18 minutes last night (Monday) -- 2 assists.
Title: OUCH is right!
Post by: RichS on January 14, 2003, 07:21:17 PM
Here's more details from today's Record about the injury...

"JOE COOL: Joe Nieuwendyk had a small piece of plastic inserted inside the right ear hole of his helmet to protect his ear, which was struck by a Jamie Langenbrunner clearing attempt in Saturday's game. Nieuwendyk needed 30 stitches to close the cut. He said he was bothered by a slight headache Sunday, but felt fine Monday other than some pressure in his ear from the cut. The puck nearly severed off the bottom of his earlobe".

Of course he played....he's a hockey player!
Title: Re: Nieuwy 500 Countdown: 1!!!!!
Post by: Al DeFlorio on January 15, 2003, 10:16:49 AM
According to yesterday's Times article--which, for some reason, didn't arrive in my email until today--Joe had both a crossbar and a post in Monday night's game.:-(

Title: Re: Nieuwy 500 Countdown: 1!!!!!
Post by: Jordan 04 on January 15, 2003, 09:26:43 PM
Well...Tverdosky just scored, and the Isles radio men were saying how it may have been deflected off Nieuwy in front (if not him, then the Isles D-man, Timmander).

Looks like it'll stay as Oleg's goal.

At 4-0 Devils now, I'm left rooting for #500....
Title: Re: Nieuwy 500 Countdown: 1!!!!!
Post by: jy3 on January 15, 2003, 11:02:01 PM
i love cheering for joe and the devils, especially against the isles or the rangers  ::nut::

Title: Re: Nieuwy 500 Countdown: 1!!!!!
Post by: Greg Berge on January 16, 2003, 05:14:14 AM
Kidneystone of a game, but Nieuwy did another assist for 3 in 2 games.  Maybe he'll get to 500 assists first.  ;-)

Current numbers: 499-488-987
Title: Re: Nieuwy 500 Countdown: 1!!!!!
Post by: Greg Berge on January 16, 2003, 05:32:12 AM
By the way, here are the top 32 all-time NHL goal scorers, through last night (courtesy of the Internet Hockey Database).  * = active.

Rk Goals Name

01 894 Gretzky
02 801 Howe
03 731 Dionne
04 717 Esposito
05 708 Gartner
06 698 Brett Hull*
07 674 Lemieux*
08 671 Messier*
09 658 Yzerman
10 624 Robitaille*
11 610 Bobby Hull
12 608 Ciccarelli
13 605 Andreychuk*
14 601 Kurri
15 573 Bossy
16 560 Lafleur
17 556 Bucyk
18 548 Goulet
19 544 Richard
20 541 Mikita
21 533 Mahovolich
22 529 Francis*
23 524 Trottier
24 522 Verbeek
25 518 Hawerchuk
26 517 Shanahan*
27 512 Perreault
28 507 Beliveau
29 502 Sakic*
29 502 Mullen
31 500 McDonald
32 499 NIEUWENDYK*
Title: Re: Nieuwy 500 Countdown: 1!!!!!
Post by: Josh '99 on January 16, 2003, 08:14:34 AM
Yzerman is still active, he's just injured.

Title: Re: Nieuwy 500 Countdown: 1!!!!!
Post by: bigred apple on January 16, 2003, 08:39:59 AM
6, 9, and 10 are teammates.  Scary. (If a little less scary than last year when they were all playing.)
Title: Re: Nieuwy 500 Countdown: 1!!!!!
Post by: Josh '99 on January 16, 2003, 09:40:05 AM
bigred apple wrote:
Quote6, 9, and 10 are teammates.  Scary. (If a little less scary than last year when they were all playing.)
Also 26.

Title: Re: Nieuwy 500 Countdown: 1!!!!!
Post by: Jim Hyla on January 16, 2003, 10:32:55 PM
You have to wonder what Mario could have done, if he had staved healthy.

Title: Re: Nieuwy 500 Countdown: 1!!!!!
Post by: Greg Berge on January 16, 2003, 11:01:10 PM
I'd love to see a list of the top players alltime by goals-per-game.  That would give a pretty good indicator of players from all eras (the absolute numbers favor modern players with long seasons).  The IHDB can't handle that -- anybody know a good online hockey resource that can?
Title: Re: Nieuwy 500 Countdown: 1!!!!!
Post by: jeh25 on January 17, 2003, 07:55:46 AM
Jim Hyla '67 wrote:
QuoteYou have to wonder what Mario could have done, if he had staved healthy.


Well, for what it is worth, my friend of a friend that is an NHL official once commented spontaneously over a few beers that Mario could have easily been better than the Great One if he'd had any sort of work ethic.

As I'm in the middle of reading Home Game right now, I have to wonder if Dryden is right in saying that guys that come from working class families are hungrier and simply want it more.

Title: Re: Nieuwy 500 Countdown: 1!!!!!
Post by: RichS on January 17, 2003, 02:38:11 PM
Dryden is absolutely right!  Most of the great all time players fit that mold.

But I'm not sure what is meant by Mario lacking a work ethic....since when?
Title: Re: Nieuwy 500 Countdown: 0!!!!!
Post by: Sarli on January 17, 2003, 08:28:06 PM
GOAL!!

Nieuwy Scored at 11:18 of the 1st period, unassisted.

Title: Re: Nieuwy 500 Countdown: 1!!!!!
Post by: Larry72 on January 18, 2003, 12:04:44 AM
Looking at the list, being just the 32nd player to score 500 or more goals puts Joe in pretty rare company.  It's something very special and something to cherish.  Congratulations!!  And who knows, the legs may have enough to get him into the high 20s or better on the list.  

Larry
Title: Re: Nieuwy 500 Countdown: 0!!!!!
Post by: Alan on January 18, 2003, 01:16:29 AM
My sick twisted ECAC driven mind really likes the penalty Nieuwy got in the third for roughing Erik Cole. Did anyone see this play? I picked it up on the ESPN box score page.

Congrats on 500, Joe!
Title: Re: Nieuwy 500 Countdown: 1!!!!!
Post by: Greg Berge on January 18, 2003, 01:19:48 AM
LOL.  Personally, I rather enjoyed Joe knocking out Paul Kariya's teeth a few years ago.  Take that, Hockey East.  :-P
Title: Re: Nieuwy 500 Countdown: 1!!!!!
Post by: jy3 on January 18, 2003, 03:28:20 PM
lol
lets go devils!

pretty sweet for joe ::nut::

Title: Re: Nieuwy 500 Countdown: 1!!!!!
Post by: Al DeFlorio on January 19, 2003, 10:41:56 PM
Joe is closing in on Joe Mullen's "ECAC" record of 502 NHL goals.  [Yes, BC was in the ECAC way back then.]

Title: Re: Nieuwy 500 Countdown: 1!!!!!
Post by: Greg Berge on January 20, 2003, 12:45:28 AM
I thought Joey Mullen played for some Hell's Kitchen juniors team; had no idea he went to BC.

Other ECACers in the top 100 (from my memory, mileage may vary):

#56 431 Dave Taylor (Clarkson)
#69 408 Ray Ferraro (UConn, ECAC D-3?)
#94 363 Tony Amonte (BU, maybe before the Divorce)

And other ECACers in the top 1000, among active players:

#109 352 John LeClair (Vermont)
#120 331 Adam Oates (RPI)
#516 148 Joe Juneau (RPI)
#542 143 Ted Donato (either Harvard or BU I forget)
#632 125 Todd Marchant (Clarkson)
#780 100 Craig Conroy (Clarkson)
Title: Re: Nieuwy 500 Countdown: 1!!!!!
Post by: Josh '99 on January 20, 2003, 08:02:09 AM
Greg wrote:
Quote#94 363 Tony Amonte (BU, maybe before the Divorce)

#542 143 Ted Donato (either Harvard or BU I forget)
Amonte played at BU after the divorce; Donato played at Harvard.

Title: Re: Nieuwy 500 Countdown: 1!!!!!
Post by: Al DeFlorio on January 20, 2003, 08:54:46 AM
Greg wrote:
QuoteI thought Joey Mullen played for some Hell's Kitchen juniors team; had no idea he went to BC.
Aren't they the same?:-P    

All of the above, IIRC.

Title: Re: Nieuwy 500 Countdown: 1!!!!!
Post by: Greg Berge on January 20, 2003, 10:30:01 AM
Here's what I was thinking of -- one of my favorite hockey stats ever.

1974-75 NY Metropolitan Jr Hockey Association

Joe Mullen (NY Westsiders) 110-72-182 in 40 games!


The *most* fun hockey stat is a roller hockey stat: Rocco Miano (MPCA) led the MPRHL Mites Division in scoring in 1998-99 with 112 goals in 13 games.
Title: Re: Nieuwy 500 Countdown: 1!!!!!
Post by: Al DeFlorio on January 20, 2003, 10:45:45 AM
Interestingly, when Joe scored 51 goals in his second year in the NHL, he tied for leading goal scorer on the Flames...with Joe Mullen.

Title: Re: Nieuwy 500 Countdown: 1!!!!!
Post by: adamw on January 22, 2003, 01:00:22 AM
Ray Ferraro did not play at UConn.  That was Todd Krygier you're probably thinking of.  Ferraro is a Trail Smoke Eater.
Title: Re: Nieuwy 500 Countdown: 1!!!!!
Post by: Greg Berge on January 22, 2003, 01:40:33 AM
You're right, it was Krygier.  Except now I can't remember the NHLer who played at Northern Arizona (I was misremembering him as Krygier).
Title: Re: Nieuwy 500 Countdown: 1!!!!!
Post by: gwm3 on January 22, 2003, 01:44:23 AM
Didn't McMeekin play for Trail?  Speaking of which, anyone know where Brian is playing this year?  Hockeydb.com lists him playing several games in the ECHL, but no longer on an active roster.
Title: Re: Nieuwy 500 Countdown: 1!!!!!
Post by: adamw on January 22, 2003, 01:46:50 AM
I believe the Northern Arizona dude was Greg Adams (one of the two). I could go to hockeydb.com and look it up, but I'm too lazy...

If you click on "team histories" or something like that, there's a way to see all the alumni of any particular team.
Title: Re: Nieuwy 500 Countdown: 1!!!!!
Post by: Greg Berge on January 22, 2003, 01:50:15 AM
It was Adams, although Bob Beers spent a year there before transfering to Maine.
Title: Re: Nieuwy 500 Countdown: 1!!!!!
Post by: Erica on January 22, 2003, 11:24:37 AM
Brian did play for Trail. He is now with the Florida Everblades; he was traded in November from the Trenton Titans for cash. I think he still splits time with the Titans but I don't know for sure. All the '02 graduates were profiled in the latest edition of the Cornell Alumni Magazine.

Edit: Let it be noted that I don't think he is playing anywhere anymore. Refer to this article:
http://www.naplesnews.com/02/12/sports/d862196a.htm
Title: Re: Nieuwy 500 Countdown: 1!!!!!
Post by: gwm3 on January 22, 2003, 11:34:02 AM
Kind of a shame that a guy with that much defensive ability didn't get a better shot at the next level.
Title: Re: Nieuwy 500 Countdown: 1!!!!!
Post by: Greg Berge on January 23, 2003, 06:04:27 AM
501 was an overtime breakaway gamewinner tonight.  Watch for it -- the #6 SportsCenter play of the day.
Title: Re: Nieuwy 500 Countdown: 1!!!!!
Post by: Al DeFlorio on January 23, 2003, 08:28:12 AM
 Greg wrote:
Quote501 was an overtime breakaway gamewinner tonight.  Watch for it -- the #6 SportsCenter play of the day.
In fact that was goal 502--tying Mullen.  501 tied the game with 12.5 seconds left.  Plus two assists.  Joe's on a roll.B-]

Title: Re: Nieuwy 500 Countdown: 1!!!!!
Post by: Dianne 99 on January 23, 2003, 12:02:56 PM
Darn it, you guys beat me to posting this!  I had the pleasure of watching this game live.  Of course, I was sitting with a Sharks' fan, so I couldn't be too overtly excited with the way it ended!  It was great to finally see Nieuwy play live and get the 1st star of the game.
Title: Re: Nieuwy 500 Countdown: 1!!!!!
Post by: Alan on January 23, 2003, 02:19:38 PM
Good thing he got the 500 Gorilla off of his back.

Now, it's time to dance. Who else would like to (maybe) see the cup in Dunbar's again?
Title: Re: Nieuwy 500 Countdown: 1!!!!!
Post by: Josh '99 on January 23, 2003, 02:26:31 PM
Alan wrote:
QuoteGood thing he got the 500 Gorilla off of his back.

Now, it's time to dance. Who else would like to (maybe) see the cup in Dunbar's again?
Not if the Devils would have to win in order to make that possible.   ::yark::

Title: Re: Nieuwy 500 Countdown: 1!!!!!
Post by: melissa\'01 on January 23, 2003, 03:24:55 PM
Come on Josh! The Devils are much better than the Rangers, the Isles and all the other eastern US teams - esp better than that horrid Boston! :-D
Title: Re: Nieuwy 500 Countdown: 1!!!!!
Post by: Josh '99 on January 23, 2003, 03:52:27 PM
melissa'01 wrote:
QuoteCome on Josh! The Devils are much better than the Rangers, the Isles and all the other eastern US teams - esp better than that horrid Boston! :-D
That doesn't mean I have to WANT them to win.  :-P

Title: Re: Nieuwy 500 Countdown: 1!!!!!
Post by: Greg Berge on January 23, 2003, 04:05:17 PM
If Milbury deals for Joe then by all means let's bring the Cup back to Uniondale...