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General Category => Hockey => Topic started by: TShen on March 15, 2008, 06:47:34 PM

Title: ECAC R2 G2: Union 2 Cornell 3 (final)
Post by: TShen on March 15, 2008, 06:47:34 PM
Cornell moves onto the ECAC championship series in Albany. :-D LGR!

UNI-1 Boileau PPG (Presizniuk, Simpson) 8:16 1st
COR-1 P. Kennedy (Greening, R. Nash) 2:18 2nd
COR-2 Gallagher PPG (Greening, B. Nash) 11:30 2nd
UNI-2 Caffaro (Boileau) 3:16 3rd
COR-3 Barlow PPG (Gallagher, Greening) 8:40 3rd
Title: Re: ECAC R2 G2: Union 0 Cornell 0 (pregame)
Post by: Trotsky on March 15, 2008, 06:54:01 PM
Jason on the pre-game: whenever Cornell has had the chance for the knockout punch this year, they've usually come up short.  Another chance tonight.
Title: Re: ECAC R2 G2: Union 0 Cornell 0 (pregame)
Post by: jaybert on March 15, 2008, 06:55:06 PM
anyone else buy the b2 network video, and getting no sound??
Title: Re: ECAC R2 G2: Union 0 Cornell 0 (pregame)
Post by: TShen on March 15, 2008, 06:55:19 PM
starting line up on B2 now. . . .no audio though
Title: Re: ECAC R2 G2: Union 0 Cornell 0 (pregame)
Post by: jaybert on March 15, 2008, 06:57:05 PM
lameeeee
Title: Re: ECAC R2 G2: Union 0 Cornell 0 (1st)
Post by: jaybert on March 15, 2008, 07:00:17 PM
got sound.  yay
Title: Re: ECAC R2 G2: Union 0 Cornell 0 (1st)
Post by: TShen on March 15, 2008, 07:00:22 PM
just got audio on B2.
Title: Re: ECAC R2 G2: Union 0 Cornell 0 (1st)
Post by: jaybert on March 15, 2008, 07:01:47 PM
wow, looked like an amazing chance for cornell
Title: Re: ECAC R2 G2: Union 0 Cornell 0 (1st)
Post by: jaybert on March 15, 2008, 07:09:49 PM
also, the b2 network is only w/ the union announcers right?  i clicked on visitor and this is what it gave me
Title: Re: ECAC R2 G2: Union 0 Cornell 0 (1st)
Post by: Trotsky on March 15, 2008, 07:10:28 PM
Cornell with 5 quality SOG in the first 2 minutes.  Great start.
Title: Re: ECAC R2 G2: Union 0 Cornell 0 (1st)
Post by: jaybert on March 15, 2008, 07:11:25 PM
rofl... "was able to hungry hungry hippo the puck"
Title: Re: ECAC R2 G2: Union 0 Cornell 0 (1st)
Post by: Trotsky on March 15, 2008, 07:11:42 PM
[quote jaybert]also, the b2 network is only w/ the union announcers right?  i clicked on visitor and this is what it gave me[/quote]Correct, but they're great.
Title: Re: ECAC R2 G2: Union 0 Cornell 0 (1st)
Post by: jaybert on March 15, 2008, 07:12:52 PM
fontas is hurt during a delayed penalty against cornell.

PK coming up for cornell
Title: Re: ECAC R2 G2: Union 0 Cornell 0 (1st)
Post by: jaybert on March 15, 2008, 07:14:01 PM
union 1-0 scored on PP
Title: Re: ECAC R2 G2: Union 0 Cornell 0 (1st)
Post by: Oat on March 15, 2008, 07:14:29 PM
Barlow should have scored on that shorthanded chance...
Title: Re: ECAC R2 G2: Union 0 Cornell 0 (1st)
Post by: Rita on March 15, 2008, 07:15:37 PM
Cornell PP upcoming.

LGR!
Title: Re: ECAC R2 G2: Union 0 Cornell 0 (1st)
Post by: jaybert on March 15, 2008, 07:15:51 PM
cornell PP
Title: Re: ECAC R2 G2: Union 1 Cornell 0 (1st)
Post by: imafrshmn on March 15, 2008, 07:22:49 PM
6:30 remaining int he first, Union PP starting..
Title: Re: ECAC R2 G2: Union 1 Cornell 0 (1st)
Post by: jaybert on March 15, 2008, 07:28:43 PM
Cornell PP..LGR.
Title: Re: ECAC R2 G2: Union 1 Cornell 0 (1st)
Post by: Trotsky on March 15, 2008, 07:29:29 PM
B2 fail... fail... fail...
Title: Re: ECAC R2 G2: Union 1 Cornell 0 (1st)
Post by: ansky629 on March 15, 2008, 07:29:37 PM
anbody else's b2 just stop for "changing media"?
Title: Re: ECAC R2 G2: Union 1 Cornell 0 (1st)
Post by: jaybert on March 15, 2008, 07:30:13 PM
yea, i had to request a new link and now its back up again (kinda)

Nevermind, just froze.
Title: Re: ECAC R2 G2: Union 1 Cornell 0 (1st)
Post by: upperdeck on March 15, 2008, 07:31:37 PM
thats why we pay the big bucks.. internet tv the wave of the future.
Title: Re: ECAC R2 G2: Union 1 Cornell 0 (1st)
Post by: jaybert on March 15, 2008, 07:32:27 PM
lol..if you request a new feed it looks like it works (w/ some stuttering), but its actually a few minutes old (I requested it twice, both times gave me the same video, and then froze at the same spot)
Title: Re: ECAC R2 G2: Union 1 Cornell 0 (1st)
Post by: ansky629 on March 15, 2008, 07:34:32 PM
Now we get the awesome video and music of "your broadcast will start shortly" sweet!
Title: Re: ECAC R2 G2: Union 1 Cornell 0 (1st)
Post by: ansky629 on March 15, 2008, 07:34:53 PM
and now its back...is the pp over?
Title: Re: ECAC R2 G2: Union 1 Cornell 0 (1st)
Post by: upperdeck on March 15, 2008, 07:35:25 PM
looks the PP is letting us down this weekend.. could have put the game away last night and nothing tonight..
Title: Re: ECAC R2 G2: Union 1 Cornell 0 (1st)
Post by: nyc94 on March 15, 2008, 07:35:34 PM
QU 3 HU 2
Title: Re: ECAC R2 G2: Union 1 Cornell 0 (1st)
Post by: jaybert on March 15, 2008, 07:36:03 PM
back up for me now too
Title: Re: ECAC R2 G2: Union 1 Cornell 0 (1st int.)
Post by: sah67 on March 15, 2008, 07:44:32 PM
I do like Union's broadcast team, but "Cornell plays well with the lead...that's their style of play"?  I guess Q's style is to play without the lead? ;)
Title: Re: ECAC R2 G2: Union 1 Cornell 0 (1st int.)
Post by: Trotsky on March 15, 2008, 07:45:07 PM
Cornell had the first 5 shots.  Shots after: Cornell 2 Union 16.  Wow.
Title: Re: ECAC R2 G2: Union 1 Cornell 0 (2nd)
Post by: nyc94 on March 15, 2008, 07:51:22 PM
Clarkson and Colgate tied at 2
Title: Re: ECAC R2 G2: Union 1 Cornell 0 (1st)
Post by: Rita on March 15, 2008, 07:53:15 PM
princeton - yale also tied
Title: Re: ECAC R2 G2: Union 1 Cornell 0 (2nd)
Post by: jaybert on March 15, 2008, 07:54:25 PM
yay, kennedy!  1-1
Title: Re: ECAC R2 G2: Union 1 Cornell 0 (1st)
Post by: Rita on March 15, 2008, 07:54:30 PM
kennedy!!
Title: Re: ECAC R2 G2: Union 1 Cornell 0 (2nd)
Post by: ansky629 on March 15, 2008, 07:54:34 PM
GOAL!  P. KENNEDY!!
Title: Re: ECAC R2 G2: Union 1 Cornell 0 (1st int.)
Post by: imafrshmn on March 15, 2008, 07:56:01 PM
i love how away play-by-play announcers are so anticlimactic when we score~ "kennedy in the slot puckloosendhescores . . . "
Title: Re: ECAC R2 G2: Union 1 Cornell 0 (1st int.)
Post by: Trotsky on March 15, 2008, 07:57:33 PM
Camera pivot is off when it points towards Scrivens.  It feels like we're watching a game in a villain's lair.
Title: Re: ECAC R2 G2: Union 1 Cornell 0 (1st int.)
Post by: ansky629 on March 15, 2008, 07:58:03 PM
To be fair, Jason usually does the same thing when a team scores against us.
Title: Re: ECAC R2 G2: Union 1 Cornell 1 (2nd)
Post by: pfm10 on March 15, 2008, 07:59:15 PM
Me no understandy ... Of course I have no video
Title: Re: ECAC R2 G2: Union 1 Cornell 1 (2nd)
Post by: pfm10 on March 15, 2008, 08:02:58 PM
Have to say the Cornell contingent sounds pretty good with the "Kill Red Kill", remote control sieve, and everything else; and Union's response to the Let's Go Red chant sounds like the switchboard lady from Office Space (how may I help *you* ... one moment *please*)
Title: Re: ECAC R2 G2: Union 1 Cornell 0 (2nd)
Post by: ryeguy on March 15, 2008, 08:03:00 PM
QU now up on Harvard 5-2.
Title: Re: ECAC R2 G2: Union 1 Cornell 1 (2nd)
Post by: upperdeck on March 15, 2008, 08:04:59 PM
two great chances no goal for cornell
Title: Re: ECAC R2 G2: Union 1 Cornell 1 (2nd)
Post by: ryeguy on March 15, 2008, 08:05:48 PM
penalty sounded bogus.
Title: Re: ECAC R2 G2: Union 1 Cornell 1 (2nd)
Post by: jaybert on March 15, 2008, 08:06:09 PM
sound messed up for anyone else?
Title: Re: ECAC R2 G2: Union 1 Cornell 1 (2nd)
Post by: sah67 on March 15, 2008, 08:06:46 PM
Yup.
Title: Re: ECAC R2 G2: Union 1 Cornell 1 (2nd)
Post by: upperdeck on March 15, 2008, 08:07:14 PM
should have been a goal.  all be himself and barlow got off a poor shot.
Title: Re: ECAC R2 G2: Union 1 Cornell 1 (2nd)
Post by: jaybert on March 15, 2008, 08:07:25 PM
i emailed b2..they better not send me an email to check my system settings and audio connections.
Title: Re: ECAC R2 G2: Union 1 Cornell 1 (2nd)
Post by: upperdeck on March 15, 2008, 08:08:31 PM
some for cornell decked from behind. looks like a nocall.
Title: Re: ECAC R2 G2: Union 1 Cornell 1 (2nd)
Post by: Ben Rocky '04 on March 15, 2008, 08:09:08 PM
Union audio feed is less messed up and is time-wise synced with the webcast.
Title: Re: ECAC R2 G2: Union 1 Cornell 1 (2nd)
Post by: Trotsky on March 15, 2008, 08:09:18 PM
Quinnipiac 5 Harvard 2
Yale 4 Princeton 2
mid second
Title: Re: ECAC R2 G2: Union 1 Cornell 1 (2nd)
Post by: ryeguy on March 15, 2008, 08:09:22 PM
Yale up 4-2 on Princeton.
Title: Re: ECAC R2 G2: Union 1 Cornell 1 (2nd)
Post by: upperdeck on March 15, 2008, 08:09:31 PM
it does look like 4 on 4 though
Title: Re: ECAC R2 G2: Union 1 Cornell 1 (2nd)
Post by: Trotsky on March 15, 2008, 08:10:23 PM
[quote Ben Rocky '04]Union audio feed is less messed up and is time-wise synced with the webcast.[/quote]I tried reconnecting and now can't get video, either, so if you have video up, stay with it, maybe audio will come back.
Title: Re: ECAC R2 G2: Union 1 Cornell 1 (2nd)
Post by: Trotsky on March 15, 2008, 08:10:41 PM
GALLAGHER!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: ECAC R2 G2: Union 1 Cornell 1 (2nd)
Post by: ansky629 on March 15, 2008, 08:10:50 PM
when i emailed them before about the video, they just told me that it was working and to enjoy the game.
Title: Re: ECAC R2 G2: Union 1 Cornell 1 (2nd)
Post by: Rita on March 15, 2008, 08:10:53 PM
ppg gallagher!
Title: Re: ECAC R2 G2: Union 1 Cornell 1 (2nd)
Post by: ryeguy on March 15, 2008, 08:10:56 PM
NICE! Gallagher
Title: Re: ECAC R2 G2: Union 1 Cornell 1 (2nd)
Post by: upperdeck on March 15, 2008, 08:10:59 PM
goal CU..
Title: Re: ECAC R2 G2: Union 1 Cornell 1 (2nd)
Post by: jaybert on March 15, 2008, 08:11:00 PM
cornell PP goal.  union player lost stick
Title: Re: ECAC R2 G2: Union 1 Cornell 1 (2nd)
Post by: upperdeck on March 15, 2008, 08:11:30 PM
its like watching radio in reverse..
Title: Re: ECAC R2 G2: Union 1 Cornell 1 (2nd)
Post by: jaybert on March 15, 2008, 08:12:29 PM
screw it.  im watching b2 video and cornell redcast audio.  got it synched up pretty close
Title: Re: ECAC R2 G2: Union 1 Cornell 1 (2nd)
Post by: Trotsky on March 15, 2008, 08:13:39 PM
[quote upperdeck]its like watching radio in reverse..[/quote]The waves are converging on the transmitter?  ::crazy::
Title: Re: ECAC R2 G2: Union 1 Cornell 1 (2nd)
Post by: sah67 on March 15, 2008, 08:15:04 PM
Same here.
Title: Re: ECAC R2 G2: Union 1 Cornell 1 (2nd)
Post by: ryeguy on March 15, 2008, 08:15:55 PM
Colgate now up 3-2. mid 2nd
Title: Re: ECAC R2 G2: Union 1 Cornell 1 (2nd)
Post by: Trotsky on March 15, 2008, 08:17:18 PM
[quote jaybert]screw it.  im watching b2 video and cornell redcast audio.  got it synched up pretty close[/quote]B2 now frozen.
Title: Re: ECAC R2 G2: Union 1 Cornell 2 (2nd)
Post by: jaybert on March 15, 2008, 08:17:26 PM
well video is frozen now too.

anyone going to ask for a refund from b2?
Title: Re: ECAC R2 G2: Union 1 Cornell 1 (2nd)
Post by: Trotsky on March 15, 2008, 08:18:05 PM
[quote ryeguy]Colgate now up 3-2. mid 2nd[/quote]Clarkson immediately tied it, for the third time tonight.
Title: Re: ECAC R2 G2: Union 1 Cornell 1 (2nd)
Post by: JDeafv on March 15, 2008, 08:18:23 PM
Anybody on irc tonight?
Title: Re: ECAC R2 G2: Union 1 Cornell 2 (2nd)
Post by: jaybert on March 15, 2008, 08:18:41 PM
Customer Reconnect Page

You have reached the maximum number of allowable reconnects.
Please email Customer Service

lol
Title: Re: ECAC R2 G2: Union 1 Cornell 0 (2nd)
Post by: MRN one on March 15, 2008, 08:18:46 PM
Anyone else trying to listen to Union's radio feed?  Two sentences and rebuffer is a lousy way to enjoy hockey.
Title: Re: ECAC R2 G2: Union 1 Cornell 1 (2nd)
Post by: ryeguy on March 15, 2008, 08:19:08 PM
[quote Trotsky][quote ryeguy]Colgate now up 3-2. mid 2nd[/quote]Clarkson immediately tied it, for the third time tonight.[/quote]

Harvard gains one. Now 5-3 Quinny.
Title: Re: ECAC R2 G2: Union 1 Cornell 2 (2nd)
Post by: Oat on March 15, 2008, 08:19:15 PM
STUPID SCAM. THE VIDEO DOESN'T EVEN WORK HALF THE GAME
Title: Re: ECAC R2 G2: B2 sucks
Post by: Ben Rocky '04 on March 15, 2008, 08:20:27 PM
I'm back up, but w/ no audio. Fucking B2
Title: Re: ECAC R2 G2: Union 1 Cornell 0 (2nd)
Post by: imafrshmn on March 15, 2008, 08:20:59 PM
[quote MRN one]Anyone else trying to listen to Union's radio feed?  Two sentences and rebuffer is a lousy way to enjoy hockey.[/quote]
http://www.teamline.cc/free_listen?teamcode=1160&eventcode=25&status=PFU the teamline feed has been flawless tonight, forget the radio station
Title: Re: ECAC R2 G2: Union 1 Cornell 0 (2nd)
Post by: pfm10 on March 15, 2008, 08:21:02 PM
Yeah, I'm getting the same thing.
Title: Re: ECAC R2 G2: Union 1 Cornell 2 (2nd)
Post by: jaybert on March 15, 2008, 08:23:07 PM
do the b2 people even read the emails before they respond?  I swear they have like 3 scripted emails and just send one of them at random.
Title: Re: ECAC R2 G2: B2 sucks
Post by: imafrshmn on March 15, 2008, 08:23:25 PM
End of the 2nd, good work from Scrivens to preserve the lead.
Title: Re: ECAC R2 G2: B2 sucks
Post by: Greenberg '97 on March 15, 2008, 08:23:46 PM
If I wanted something that would be unreliable, cut in and out, and sometimes fail all together, I would listen to the Union audio for free.

Oh wait, that's what I am doing.  And after the game, I will spend my $8 on beer.
Title: B2 sucks
Post by: Oat on March 15, 2008, 08:24:03 PM
The biggest internet scam. I am not even going to call them. I'm gonna call American Express. B2 should be put on delinquent merchant list.
Title: Re: ECAC R2 G2: B2 sucks
Post by: ryeguy on March 15, 2008, 08:24:36 PM
[quote Ben Rocky '04]I'm back up, but w/ no audio. Fucking B2[/quote]
Yeah, b2 sucks. I watched the Clarkson-Cornell game with it from the  Florida tourney and it kept having what looked like a camera welcome screen come up. Junk.
Title: Re: ECAC R2 G2: Union 1 Cornell 2 (2nd)
Post by: ansky629 on March 15, 2008, 08:25:28 PM
I did...they aren't responding, to that part just telling me that they're working on it.  Sound is back up now, but we've already missed about half the game with no video or audio...I'm definitely gonna ask for a refund again if anything goes wrong in the 3rd.
Title: Re: ECAC R2 G2: Union 1 Cornell 2 (2nd)
Post by: ryeguy on March 15, 2008, 08:28:50 PM
[quote jaybert]do the b2 people even read the emails before they respond?  I swear they have like 3 scripted emails and just send one of them at random.[/quote]

They such a reliable network that they don't need customer service. ::rolleyes::
Title: Re: ECAC R2 G2: B2 sucks
Post by: Trotsky on March 15, 2008, 08:29:27 PM
[quote ryeguy][quote Ben Rocky '04]I'm back up, but w/ no audio. Fucking B2[/quote]
Yeah, b2 sucks. I watched the Clarkson-Cornell game with it from the  Florida tourney and it kept having what looked like a camera welcome screen come up. Junk.[/quote]We established last year that it is a garbage service -- I have no idea how they survive, other than the exclusivity granted by leagues.  That will change as professional outfits push them out over the next few years.  I think they're a smash and grab business.
Title: Re: ECAC R2 G2: Union 1 Cornell 2 (2nd)
Post by: pfm10 on March 15, 2008, 08:29:33 PM
[quote ansky629]I did...they aren't responding, to that part just telling me that they're working on it.  Sound is back up now, but we've already missed about half the game with no video or audio...I'm definitely gonna ask for a refund again if anything goes wrong in the 3rd.[/quote]

For what's it worth (and I'm pretty sure that's nothing), even the Union free-cast announcers apologized for some technical difficulties that people on the b2 have been having. They say that it should be back up and running now.
Title: Re: ECAC R2 G2: Union 1 Cornell 2 (2nd int.)
Post by: scoop85 on March 15, 2008, 08:29:36 PM
So much for my recent raves about Army ... I see that they lost 4-2 to an under .500 Mercyhurst in the Atlantic Hockey semifinals.
Title: Re: ECAC R2 G2: Union 1 Cornell 2 (2nd int.)
Post by: Cop at Lynah on March 15, 2008, 08:31:31 PM
Other QF scores 3/15

Clarkson 3 Colagte 3 end 2nd
Quinnipiac 6 Harvard 3 end 2nd
Cornell 2 Union 1 end of 2nd
Yale 4 Princeton 2 end of 2nd
Title: Video down again at 8:32
Post by: sah67 on March 15, 2008, 08:34:04 PM
Video down again.  I emailed B2 not too politely asking for a refund.  No auto-replies yet, so maybe there's hope.
Title: Re: ECAC R2 G2: Union 1 Cornell 2 (2nd int.)
Post by: jaybert on March 15, 2008, 08:37:52 PM
i asked for a refund too.  i'll just file a chargeback if they say no.
Title: Re: ECAC R2 G2: Union 1 Cornell 2 (2nd int.)
Post by: Trotsky on March 15, 2008, 08:39:01 PM
[quote jaybert]i asked for a refund too.  i'll just file a chargeback if they say no.[/quote]If possible, please post how to do this.  If *every* person who bought this webcast files for a refund, maybe they'll get the message.
Title: Re: ECAC R2 G2: Union 1 Cornell 2 (2nd int.)
Post by: imafrshmn on March 15, 2008, 08:39:27 PM
Most important period of the year about to start.  Let's put the foot down.
Title: Re: ECAC R2 G2: Union 1 Cornell 2 (2nd int.)
Post by: Trotsky on March 15, 2008, 08:39:52 PM
[quote scoop85]So much for my recent raves about Army ... I see that they lost 4-2 to an under .500 Mercyhurst in the Atlantic Hockey semifinals.[/quote]Which means under .500 Mercyhurst is a win from an autobid.
Title: Re: ECAC R2 G2: Union 1 Cornell 2 (2nd int.)
Post by: Rita on March 15, 2008, 08:41:12 PM
I'm glad I didn't lay out the money for the B2 video. Redcast audio is working just fine tonight :).

LGR!
Title: Re: ECAC R2 G2: Union 1 Cornell 2 (2nd int.)
Post by: sah67 on March 15, 2008, 08:41:16 PM
[quote Trotsky][quote jaybert]i asked for a refund too.  i'll just file a chargeback if they say no.[/quote]If possible, please post how to do this.  If *every* person who bought this webcast files for a refund, maybe they'll get the message.[/quote]

I emailed the following 2 addresses:

wtvcserv@b2-networks.com - general customer support
support@b2-networks.com - supposedly "billing" and "Credit card" inquiries
Title: Re: ECAC R2 G2: Union 1 Cornell 2 (2nd int.)
Post by: pfm10 on March 15, 2008, 08:41:48 PM
Quote from: Trotsky
Quote from: scoop85So much for my recent raves about Army ... I see that they lost 4-2 to an under .500 Mercyhurst in the Atlantic Hockey semifinals.

Which means under .500 Mercyhurst is a win from an autobid.

Which means they could suddenly become a TUC, right?
Title: Re: ECAC R2 G2: Union 1 Cornell 2 (2nd int.)
Post by: jaybert on March 15, 2008, 08:41:59 PM
[quote Trotsky][quote jaybert]i asked for a refund too.  i'll just file a chargeback if they say no.[/quote]If possible, please post how to do this.  If *every* person who bought this webcast files for a refund, maybe they'll get the message.[/quote]

i emailed the first one as well.  Will respond back to what they say whenever they respond.
Title: Re: ECAC R2 G2: Union 1 Cornell 2 (2nd int.)
Post by: Rita on March 15, 2008, 08:45:42 PM
Here we go again.

Union just tied up the game :(.
Title: Re: ECAC R2 G2: Union 1 Cornell 2 (2nd int.)
Post by: imafrshmn on March 15, 2008, 08:46:17 PM
"Caffaro RIIIFLES it past Scrivens!!  SCOOOOOOORRREEE!!!"
Title: Re: ECAC R2 G2: Union 1 Cornell 2 (3rd)
Post by: scoop85 on March 15, 2008, 08:46:44 PM
It's time to pick up our play and show some gumption.
Title: Re: ECAC R2 G2: Union 1 Cornell 2 (2nd int.)
Post by: Trotsky on March 15, 2008, 08:50:29 PM
[quote sah67][quote Trotsky][quote jaybert]i asked for a refund too.  i'll just file a chargeback if they say no.[/quote]If possible, please post how to do this.  If *every* person who bought this webcast files for a refund, maybe they'll get the message.[/quote]

I emailed the following 2 addresses:

wtvcserv@b2-networks.com - general customer support
support@b2-networks.com - supposedly "billing" and "Credit card" inquiries[/quote]

My email:

QuoteI am emailing to demand a refund for the Cornell-Union mens ECAC hockey playoff game of 3/15/08.  The webcast audio and video have repeatedly failed throughout this webcast, as they have through other B2 webcasts throughout this and other years.


This quality of service plagued Cornell viewers all last year prior to the Cornell AD dropping B2 at our request.  Many of us are now petitioning the ECAC and NCAA to remove B2 from the list of providers for any future league products.

B2's products, customer support, and pricing model are seriously inferior when compared with even the barely tolerable of web-based products.  We look forward to the day your management either elects to provide quality service or files for bankruptcy.
Title: Re: ECAC R2 G2: Union 1 Cornell 2 (2nd int.)
Post by: Trotsky on March 15, 2008, 08:51:14 PM
[quote pfm10]
Quote from: Trotsky
Quote from: scoop85So much for my recent raves about Army ... I see that they lost 4-2 to an under .500 Mercyhurst in the Atlantic Hockey semifinals.

Which means under .500 Mercyhurst is a win from an autobid.

Which means they could suddenly become a TUC, right?[/quote]IIRC, no.  You can't be a TUC if your RPI is under .500 even if you are in the tourney.  I think.
Title: Re: ECAC R2 G2: Union 1 Cornell 2 (3rd)
Post by: scoop85 on March 15, 2008, 08:51:28 PM
shorthanded; such an important kill.
Title: Re: ECAC R2 G2: Union 2 Cornell 2 (3rd)
Post by: adamw on March 15, 2008, 08:52:09 PM
Teams don't automatically become TUCs anymore for the purposes of calculating the Pairwise

http://www.collegehockeynews.com/info/?d=pwcrpi
Title: Re: ECAC R2 G2: Union 2 Cornell 2 (3rd)
Post by: scoop85 on March 15, 2008, 08:52:33 PM
Great kill leads to Union penalty with :46 left on the Cornell penalty.
Title: Re: ECAC R2 G2: Union 1 Cornell 2 (2nd int.)
Post by: ansky629 on March 15, 2008, 08:52:58 PM
A lot more civil than mine...::flipd::
Title: Re: ECAC R2 G2: Union 1 Cornell 2 (3rd)
Post by: Rita on March 15, 2008, 08:53:02 PM
Union just picked up a penalty to negate their PP. 4-4 hockey for a bit.
Title: Re: ECAC R2 G2: Union 2 Cornell 2 (3rd)
Post by: adamw on March 15, 2008, 08:53:04 PM
You don't become a TUC even if your RPI is ABOVE .500 and you win a tournament.  Not automatically.  So if your RPI is .5008 and you win a conference tournament, you still don't automatically become one.  It's just the Top 25 of RPI.
Title: Re: ECAC R2 G2: Union 1 Cornell 2 (2nd int.)
Post by: pfibiger on March 15, 2008, 08:53:35 PM
[quote Trotsky]
My email:

QuoteI am emailing to demand a refund for the Cornell-Union mens ECAC hockey playoff game of 3/15/08.  The webcast audio and video have repeatedly failed throughout this webcast, as they have through other B2 webcasts throughout this and other years.


This quality of service plagued Cornell viewers all last year prior to the Cornell AD dropping B2 at our request.  Many of us are now petitioning the ECAC and NCAA to remove B2 from the list of providers for any future league products.

B2's products, customer support, and pricing model are seriously inferior when compared with even the barely tolerable of web-based products.  We look forward to the day your management either elects to provide quality service or files for bankruptcy.

Trotsky,

While I agree with you about B2's terrible performance during the playoffs, wasn't the provider we hated so much over the last couple years CSTV? I don't think B2 had anything to do with it.
Title: Re: ECAC R2 G2: Union 2 Cornell 2 (3rd)
Post by: pfm10 on March 15, 2008, 08:55:10 PM
[quote adamw]You don't become a TUC even if your RPI is ABOVE .500 and you win a tournament.  Not automatically.  So if your RPI is .5008 and you win a conference tournament, you still don't automatically become one.  It's just the Top 25 of RPI.[/quote]

Got it, thanks.
Title: Re: ECAC R2 G2: Union 2 Cornell 2 (3rd)
Post by: imafrshmn on March 15, 2008, 08:55:23 PM
Too many men against Union, Cornell 5x3 for ~:33
Title: Re: ECAC R2 G2: Union 2 Cornell 2 (3rd)
Post by: ansky629 on March 15, 2008, 08:55:33 PM
5 on 3 chance here...gotta cash it in.
Title: Re: ECAC R2 G2: Union 2 Cornell 2 (3rd)
Post by: scoop85 on March 15, 2008, 08:55:51 PM
Wow, too many men penalty on Onion with :33 left on the Cornell power play (I don't think I've seen that happen before).  Schafer calls a time out.
Title: Re: ECAC R2 G2: Union 2 Cornell 2 (3rd)
Post by: pfm10 on March 15, 2008, 08:56:10 PM
You can't count. Cornell goes 5x3 on a too many men penalty
Title: Re: ECAC R2 G2: Union 1 Cornell 2 (2nd int.)
Post by: Trotsky on March 15, 2008, 08:56:57 PM
Natch, B2 now up again.
Title: Re: ECAC R2 G2: Union 2 Cornell 2 (3rd)
Post by: upperdeck on March 15, 2008, 08:57:34 PM
how about a couple shots on goal to start..
Title: Re: ECAC R2 G2: Union 2 Cornell 2 (3rd)
Post by: scoop85 on March 15, 2008, 08:58:16 PM
Greening's due.
Title: Re: ECAC R2 G2: Union 1 Cornell 2 (2nd int.)
Post by: DeltaOne81 on March 15, 2008, 08:59:44 PM
[quote pfibiger]
Trotsky,

While I agree with you about B2's terrible performance during the playoffs, wasn't the provider we hated so much over the last couple years CSTV? I don't think B2 had anything to do with it.[/quote]

Yup, it was CSTV's AllAccess, no connection to B2 - although I believe B2 has carried the Everblades tourney before.
Title: Re: ECAC R2 G2: Union 2 Cornell 2 (3rd)
Post by: ryeguy on March 15, 2008, 08:59:52 PM
YES! still a 5 on 4.
Title: Re: ECAC R2 G2: Union 2 Cornell 2 (3rd)
Post by: imafrshmn on March 15, 2008, 08:59:54 PM
Barlow!!!!
Title: Re: ECAC R2 G2: Union 2 Cornell 2 (3rd)
Post by: ansky629 on March 15, 2008, 09:00:01 PM
GOAL!!!  BARLOW!!!
Title: Re: ECAC R2 G2: Union 2 Cornell 3 (3rd)
Post by: pfm10 on March 15, 2008, 09:00:02 PM
BARLOW
Title: Re: ECAC R2 G2: Union 2 Cornell 2 (3rd)
Post by: scoop85 on March 15, 2008, 09:00:08 PM
Like I said, Barlow's due ;-)!
Title: Re: ECAC R2 G2: Union 2 Cornell 2 (3rd)
Post by: jy3 on March 15, 2008, 09:00:54 PM
LGR!
Title: Re: ECAC R2 G2: Union 1 Cornell 2 (2nd int.)
Post by: Rita on March 15, 2008, 09:01:53 PM
[quote pfibiger][quote Trotsky]
My email:

QuoteI am emailing to demand a refund for the Cornell-Union mens ECAC hockey playoff game of 3/15/08.  The webcast audio and video have repeatedly failed throughout this webcast, as they have through other B2 webcasts throughout this and other years.


This quality of service plagued Cornell viewers all last year prior to the Cornell AD dropping B2 at our request.  Many of us are now petitioning the ECAC and NCAA to remove B2 from the list of providers for any future league products.

B2's products, customer support, and pricing model are seriously inferior when compared with even the barely tolerable of web-based products.  We look forward to the day your management either elects to provide quality service or files for bankruptcy.

Trotsky,

While I agree with you about B2's terrible performance during the playoffs, wasn't the provider we hated so much over the last couple years CSTV? I don't think B2 had anything to do with it.[/quote]

Yes, for the last two years, Cornell used CSTV which is a separate entity from B2.

 Clarkson and St. Lawrence are using B2 as their internet service provider this year and I watched both North Country games without any issues.

As we all know, issues at the rink (i.e. people stepping on the cords) etc. do affect whether we get video feed or not.

This is the first year that the ECAC has gone to a single service provider for the opening and QF rounds. It might be worth writing a letter detailing your frustrations with B2 to the ECAC. I wrote one explaining my disappointment with plan and how much it was going to cost etc. If more people shared their experiences in a constructive manner, then perhaps next year they might come up with a better plan.
Title: Re: ECAC R2 G2: Union 2 Cornell 3 (3rd)
Post by: grizzdan24 on March 15, 2008, 09:02:44 PM
How much time, please??
Title: Re: ECAC R2 G2: Union 2 Cornell 3 (3rd)
Post by: pfm10 on March 15, 2008, 09:03:19 PM
9:15 to go
Title: Re: ECAC R2 G2: Union 1 Cornell 2 (2nd int.)
Post by: Rita on March 15, 2008, 09:03:38 PM
8:45 left in the 3rd.
Title: Re: ECAC R2 G2: Union 1 Cornell 2 (2nd int.)
Post by: Trotsky on March 15, 2008, 09:04:35 PM
[quote Rita]Yes, for the last two years, Cornell used CSTV which is a separate entity from B2. [/quote]"Forget it, he's rolling."  ::doh::
Title: Re: ECAC R2 G2: Union 1 Cornell 2 (2nd int.)
Post by: Rita on March 15, 2008, 09:06:42 PM
6:17 left in the 3rd
Title: Re: ECAC R2 G2: Union 2 Cornell 3 (3rd)
Post by: grizzdan24 on March 15, 2008, 09:07:35 PM
Thanks.  LGR!!
Title: Re: ECAC R2 G2: Union 1 Cornell 2 (2nd int.)
Post by: imafrshmn on March 15, 2008, 09:07:45 PM
Cowbell time
Title: Re: ECAC R2 G2: Union 1 Cornell 2 (2nd int.)
Post by: pfm10 on March 15, 2008, 09:07:57 PM
"Union fans finally starting to get loud with 6 minutes to go ..."

And that passes
Title: Re: ECAC R2 G2: Union 1 Cornell 2 (2nd int.)
Post by: upperdeck on March 15, 2008, 09:08:11 PM
this really feels like watching a game on a home camcorder from the 80's
Title: Re: ECAC R2 G2: Union 2 Cornell 3 (3rd)
Post by: imafrshmn on March 15, 2008, 09:09:41 PM
4:20 to go
Title: Re: ECAC R2 G2: Union 1 Cornell 2 (2nd int.)
Post by: Rita on March 15, 2008, 09:10:21 PM
3:47 left. Face-off outside the Union zone.
Title: Re: ECAC R2 G2: Union 2 Cornell 3 (3rd)
Post by: imafrshmn on March 15, 2008, 09:12:09 PM
3:24 to go, Cornell (of course) called for the penalty

Kill, Red, Kill!
Title: Re: ECAC R2 G2: Union 1 Cornell 2 (2nd int.)
Post by: pfm10 on March 15, 2008, 09:12:14 PM
3:24 to go, and we get called for a penalty - obstruction
Title: Re: ECAC R2 G2: Union 2 Cornell 3 (3rd)
Post by: upperdeck on March 15, 2008, 09:12:24 PM
swallow the whistle and then call that type of penalty?
Title: Re: ECAC R2 G2: Union 2 Cornell 3 (3rd)
Post by: ryeguy on March 15, 2008, 09:12:24 PM
seems like we always do this. kennedy into the box.
Title: Re: ECAC R2 G2: Union 1 Cornell 2 (2nd int.)
Post by: Rita on March 15, 2008, 09:12:33 PM
Union going on the PP. M. Kennedy going to the box.

3:24 left in the 3rd.

Kill Red Kill!
Title: Re: ECAC R2 G2: Union 2 Cornell 3 (3rd)
Post by: mnagowski on March 15, 2008, 09:12:58 PM
Kill Red Kill.

I wonder whether or not Union will pull the goalie before the end of the penalty.
Title: Re: ECAC R2 G2: Union 1 Cornell 2 (2nd int.)
Post by: Rita on March 15, 2008, 09:14:00 PM
2:30 left in the 3rd.
Title: Re: ECAC R2 G2: Union 1 Cornell 2 (2nd int.)
Post by: Rita on March 15, 2008, 09:14:44 PM
2:12 left in the 3rd, Time out Union.
Title: Re: ECAC R2 G2: Union 2 Cornell 3 (3rd)
Post by: pfm10 on March 15, 2008, 09:14:56 PM
TO Union :49 left in the PK
Title: Re: ECAC R2 G2: Union 2 Cornell 3 (3rd)
Post by: imafrshmn on March 15, 2008, 09:15:39 PM
Surprising that Milan doesn't go to the bench

edit: Milan on the bench
Title: Re: ECAC R2 G2: Union 1 Cornell 2 (2nd int.)
Post by: Rita on March 15, 2008, 09:16:07 PM
Empty net.

Kill Red Kill!
Title: Re: ECAC R2 G2: Union 2 Cornell 3 (3rd)
Post by: pfm10 on March 15, 2008, 09:16:11 PM
And now he does
Title: Re: ECAC R2 G2: Union 2 Cornell 3 (3rd)
Post by: mnagowski on March 15, 2008, 09:16:35 PM
Come on Red.
Title: Re: ECAC R2 G2: Union 1 Cornell 2 (2nd int.)
Post by: nyc94 on March 15, 2008, 09:16:48 PM
Yale 4 Princeton 3 Final
Title: Re: ECAC R2 G2: Union 1 Cornell 2 (2nd int.)
Post by: Rita on March 15, 2008, 09:17:13 PM
Mugford clears the zone
Title: Re: ECAC R2 G2: Union 1 Cornell 2 (2nd int.)
Post by: imafrshmn on March 15, 2008, 09:17:50 PM
PP expires
Title: Re: ECAC R2 G2: Union 2 Cornell 3 (3rd)
Post by: ansky629 on March 15, 2008, 09:18:07 PM
anybody have b2 cut out for a minute again?
Title: Re: ECAC R2 G2: Union 1 Cornell 2 (2nd int.)
Post by: imafrshmn on March 15, 2008, 09:18:09 PM
1:00 to go
Title: Re: ECAC R2 G2: Union 2 Cornell 3 (3rd)
Post by: pfm10 on March 15, 2008, 09:18:16 PM
1:06 left face-off in the Red end. Empty net Union
Title: Re: ECAC R2 G2: Union 1 Cornell 2 (2nd int.)
Post by: Rita on March 15, 2008, 09:18:20 PM
1:07 left, Penalty over.

Face-off in the Cornell defensive zone.
Title: Re: ECAC R2 G2: Union 2 Cornell 3 (3rd)
Post by: imafrshmn on March 15, 2008, 09:19:04 PM
Cornell ices the puck again :38 to go
Title: Re: ECAC R2 G2: Union 1 Cornell 2 (2nd int.)
Post by: Rita on March 15, 2008, 09:19:19 PM
Another icing call. 38 seconds left.

Topher just missed and ENG.
Title: Re: ECAC R2 G2: Union 2 Cornell 3 (3rd)
Post by: imafrshmn on March 15, 2008, 09:20:10 PM
scrivens holds on to a longshot, faceoff coming :21 to go
Title: Re: ECAC R2 G2: Union 1 Cornell 2 (2nd int.)
Post by: Rita on March 15, 2008, 09:20:10 PM
Another defensive zone face off.

Scrivens with a save.
Title: Re: ECAC R2 G2: Union 2 Cornell 3 (3rd)
Post by: nyc94 on March 15, 2008, 09:21:04 PM
Gate 4 Clarkson 3 Final
Title: Re: ECAC R2 G2: Union 1 Cornell 2 (2nd int.)
Post by: imafrshmn on March 15, 2008, 09:21:05 PM
:7 to go, penalty on Union... LGR!!! **]
Title: Re: ECAC R2 G2: Union 1 Cornell 2 (2nd int.)
Post by: Rita on March 15, 2008, 09:21:14 PM
6.8 seconds left.

Coyle gets a penalty. That should bring the face-off to neutral ice.

Just tie up the puck.
Title: Re: ECAC R2 G2: Union 2 Cornell 3 (3rd)
Post by: jy3 on March 15, 2008, 09:21:35 PM
nice!
on to next week!
Title: Re: ECAC R2 G2: Union 2 Cornell 3 (3rd)
Post by: Al DeFlorio on March 15, 2008, 09:21:37 PM
Nice.  Very nice.
Title: Re: ECAC R2 G2: Union 2 Cornell 3 (3rd)
Post by: imafrshmn on March 15, 2008, 09:23:56 PM
Back to Albany baby!!  

Encore cowbell cheer on the handshakes... Let's Go Red!!
Title: Re: ECAC R2 G2: Union 2 Cornell 3 (3rd)
Post by: Al DeFlorio on March 15, 2008, 09:24:01 PM
Other series all go to Sunday!
Title: Re: ECAC R2 G2: Union 2 Cornell 3 (3rd)
Post by: sah67 on March 15, 2008, 09:24:49 PM
I could only think back to the 2nd QF game against Q last year, being down 3-2 with the time slowly ticking down to the end of our season.  It sure was great being on the other side of that equation tonight ;)
Title: Re: ECAC R2 G2: Union 2 Cornell 3 (3rd)
Post by: Rita on March 15, 2008, 09:25:11 PM
Wow!!

Great weekend. Very agonizing last 6 minutes or so!!

Keep the good vibes going!

LGR!!!
Title: Re: ECAC R2 G2: Union 2 Cornell 3 (final)
Post by: mnagowski on March 15, 2008, 09:26:00 PM
At the risk of raining on our own parade, I'll quip that we still haven't beaten anybody better than us in the ECAC.
Title: Re: ECAC R2 G2: Union 2 Cornell 3 (final)
Post by: mnagowski on March 15, 2008, 09:27:31 PM
Scrivens won the game for us tonight.
Title: Re: ECAC R2 G2: Union 2 Cornell 3 (final)
Post by: Al DeFlorio on March 15, 2008, 09:28:21 PM
[quote metaezra]At the risk of raining on our own parade, I'll quip that we still haven't beaten anybody better than us in the ECAC.[/quote]
Some small chance in Albany we won't have to play "anybody better than us in the ECAC."  And, yes, I did say "small."
Title: Re: ECAC R2 G2: Union 2 Cornell 3 (3rd)
Post by: upperdeck on March 15, 2008, 09:28:28 PM
harv scores 15 and gets a split..

who do we want to win these games?

colg wins and we play harv if seed holds?

we could actually be the top seed if things fall right..
Title: Re: ECAC R2 G2: Union 2 Cornell 3 (3rd)
Post by: Greenberg '97 on March 15, 2008, 09:29:03 PM
Looks like we're the only ones who can sit around and watch the NCAA hoops selection show tomorrow, too.  Three-game series across the board.
Title: Re: ECAC R2 G2: Union 2 Cornell 3 (final)
Post by: DeltaOne81 on March 15, 2008, 09:29:53 PM
[quote metaezra]At the risk of raining on our own parade, I'll quip that we still haven't beaten anybody better than us in the ECAC.[/quote]

We just did... twice in a row. Ok, I know its 'just Union', but they were one of the 4 we couldn't beat.
Title: Re: ECAC R2 G2: Union 2 Cornell 3 (final)
Post by: mnagowski on March 15, 2008, 09:35:02 PM
[quote DeltaOne81][quote metaezra]At the risk of raining on our own parade, I'll quip that we still haven't beaten anybody better than us in the ECAC.[/quote]

We just did... twice in a row. Ok, I know its 'just Union', but they were one of the 4 we couldn't beat.[/quote]

It's kind of a technicality, but Union and Cornell were tied in the league with 25 points each. Union won the head-to-head tiebreaker, thus securing the first round bye.
Title: Re: ECAC R2 G2: Union 2 Cornell 3 (final)
Post by: DeltaOne81 on March 15, 2008, 09:38:11 PM
[quote metaezra][quote DeltaOne81]
We just did... twice in a row. Ok, I know its 'just Union', but they were one of the 4 we couldn't beat.[/quote]

It's kind of a technicality, but Union and Cornell were tied in the league with 25 points each. Union won the head-to-head tiebreaker, thus securing the first round bye.[/quote]

True we 'tied', but since they beat us twice, its hard to argue they weren't one of the teams above us - and, based on the results this season 'better than us'.

Anyway, technicalities or not, its nice to see us able to get 2 wins on a road against a bye-team that we couldn't be in the regular season.
Title: Re: ECAC R2 G2: Union 2 Cornell 3 (final)
Post by: Greenberg '97 on March 15, 2008, 09:38:59 PM
[quote metaezra][quote DeltaOne81][quote metaezra]At the risk of raining on our own parade, I'll quip that we still haven't beaten anybody better than us in the ECAC.[/quote]

We just did... twice in a row. Ok, I know its 'just Union', but they were one of the 4 we couldn't beat.[/quote]

It's kind of a technicality, but Union and Cornell were tied in the league with 25 points each. Union won the head-to-head tiebreaker, thus securing the first round bye.[/quote]

Which means that Delta was right when he said that we couldn't beat them.  If we had beaten them, we would have the tiebreaker.
Title: Re: ECAC R2 G2: Union 2 Cornell 3 (final)
Post by: scoop85 on March 15, 2008, 09:39:59 PM
No doubt about it, the difference this year over last has been the improved special teams.  If we keep that going next week, we have a shot (that, plus no one in the league is especially overwhelming).
Title: Re: ECAC R2 G2: Union 2 Cornell 3 (final)
Post by: mnagowski on March 15, 2008, 09:41:56 PM
[quote DeltaOne81]Anyway, technicalities or not, its nice to see us able to get 2 wins on a road against a bye-team that we couldn't be in the regular season.[/quote]

Agreed. And I suspect that the experience of having to deal with a first-round series, combined with wins on the road in the quarterfinals, should bring a lot of character to this young team in future years.
Title: Re: ECAC R2 G2: Union 2 Cornell 3 (final)
Post by: mhand06 on March 15, 2008, 09:50:51 PM
YAY WE ARE GOING TO ALBANY!!!!
Title: Re: ECAC R2 G2: Union 2 Cornell 3 (final)
Post by: Trotsky on March 15, 2008, 09:52:06 PM
[quote metaezra][quote DeltaOne81]Anyway, technicalities or not, its nice to see us able to get 2 wins on a road against a bye-team that we couldn't be in the regular season.[/quote]

Agreed. And I suspect that the experience of having to deal with a first-round series, combined with wins on the road in the quarterfinals, should bring a lot of character to this young team in future years.[/quote]And this year.  When Cornell takes the ice Friday, it will be their 6th ECAC playoff game of the season -- their team record (which they will immediately break Saturday).  The long post-season is a 25% bonus in games played over the RS.
Title: Re: ECAC R2 G2: Union 2 Cornell 3 (final)
Post by: scoop85 on March 15, 2008, 09:57:47 PM
[quote Trotsky][quote metaezra][quote DeltaOne81]Anyway, technicalities or not, its nice to see us able to get 2 wins on a road against a bye-team that we couldn't be in the regular season.[/quote]

Agreed. And I suspect that the experience of having to deal with a first-round series, combined with wins on the road in the quarterfinals, should bring a lot of character to this young team in future years.[/quote]And this year.  When Cornell takes the ice Friday, it will be their 6th ECAC playoff game of the season -- their team record (which they will immediately break Saturday).  The long post-season is a 25% bonus in games played over the RS.[/quote]

And that's without having to go the distance in the Union series **]
Title: Re: ECAC R2 G2: Union 2 Cornell 3 (final)
Post by: Chris '03 on March 15, 2008, 09:58:31 PM
[quote DeltaOne81][quote metaezra]At the risk of raining on our own parade, I'll quip that we still haven't beaten anybody better than us in the ECAC.[/quote]

We just did... twice in a row. Ok, I know its 'just Union', but they were one of the 4 we couldn't beat.[/quote]

And depending on what happens tomorrow, we may not have to see any of the other three until next year. ::popcorn::
Title: Re: ECAC R2 G2: Union 2 Cornell 3 (final)
Post by: Trotsky on March 15, 2008, 10:04:25 PM
[quote Chris '03]And depending on what happens tomorrow, we may not have to see any of the other three until next year. ::popcorn::[/quote]That's only happening if O. Henry is writing this year's ECAC script. ::looking::
Title: Re: ECAC R2 G2: Union 2 Cornell 3 (final)
Post by: Al DeFlorio on March 15, 2008, 10:32:17 PM
[quote Trotsky][quote Chris '03]And depending on what happens tomorrow, we may not have to see any of the other three until next year. ::popcorn::[/quote]That's only happening if O. Henry is writing this year's ECAC script. ::looking::[/quote]
Or the brothers Grimm.
Title: Re: ECAC R2 G2: Union 2 Cornell 3 (final)
Post by: andyw2100 on March 15, 2008, 11:20:49 PM
Fantastic win tonight. Glad we made the trip, and of course we'll be heading back here (well, near here) next weekend.

I was just reading this game thread, and I wanted to comment for those of you planning on doing credit card chargebacks because of the poor B2 product and lack of customer service. While you will get your money back, it almost certainly will not come from B2. Most credit card companies will not bother to start the dispute process for an amount under $10. (For some credit card companies this amount may be even higher--possibly $15 or $20) Instead they will just give it to you, from their own pocket, so to speak. So while you will get the money back, B2 will also get to keep it. So the full affect you are looking for...B2 feeling the loss...won't be achieved.
Title: Re: ECAC R2 G2: Union 2 Cornell 3 (final)
Post by: jaybert on March 15, 2008, 11:24:32 PM
[quote andyw2100]Fantastic win tonight. Glad we made the trip, and of course we'll be heading back here (well, near here) next weekend.

I was just reading this game thread, and I wanted to comment for those of you planning on doing credit card chargebacks because of the poor B2 product and lack of customer service. While you will get your money back, it almost certainly will not come from B2. Most credit card companies will not bother to start the dispute process for an amount under $10. (For some credit card companies this amount may be even higher--possibly $15 or $20) Instead they will just give it to you, from their own pocket, so to speak. So while you will get the money back, B2 will also get to keep it. So the full affect you are looking for...B2 feeling the loss...won't be achieved.[/quote]

chargeback obviously isnt the #1 option.  #1 option is for b2 to refund the money, otherwise i will issue a chargeback.  Fact of the matter is that I got to watch about half of the 1st and 2nd period, and none of the 3rd (I got an error message saying I had reconnected too many times, and to contact customer service, which I did and they never responded).  In the end, I want the money to be refunded by $8, but I'll take Citibank giving me the $8 back, as a write-off or not.
Title: Re: ECAC R2 G2: Union 2 Cornell 3 (final)
Post by: andyw2100 on March 15, 2008, 11:44:51 PM
[quote jaybert]
chargeback obviously isnt the #1 option. [/quote]

I was actually responding more to Trotsky's post, in which he said something like, "If everyone did this, maybe B2 would get the message." I was pointing out that while you guys would (and should) get the money back, B2 would probably never know.

And Trotsky, to file a chargeback you just call your credit card company to start the process. But as I wrote earlier, in this case when you call to start the chargeback they will just give you your money back, instead of starting the chargeback procedure.

For a more significant amount of money, they would take your info, and then, depending on the credit card company, possibly ask you to write up your side of the story. Generally they will credit you the amount while the chargeback is pending. Then, when it is resolved, you keep the credit if it is resolved in your favor. If you lose the chargeback, they just reinstate the initial charge.
Title: Re: ECAC R2 G2: Union 2 Cornell 3 (final)
Post by: jaybert on March 15, 2008, 11:52:01 PM
i thought he was actually referring to how to request a refund, but I could be wrong.

[quote andyw2100][quote jaybert
chargeback obviously isnt the #1 option. [/quote]

I was actually responding more to Trotsky's post, in which he said something like, "If everyone did this, maybe B2 would get the message." I was pointing out that while you guys would (and should) get the money back, B2 would probably never know.

And Trotsky, to file a chargeback you just call your credit card company to start the process. But as I wrote earlier, in this case when you call to start the chargeback they will just give you your money back, instead of starting the chargeback procedure.

For a more significant amount of money, they would take your info, and then, depending on the credit card company, possibly ask you to write up your side of the story. Generally they will credit you the amount while the chargeback is pending. Then, when it is resolved, you keep the credit if it is resolved in your favor. If you lose the chargeback, they just reinstate the initial charge.[/quote]
Title: Re: ECAC R2 G2: Union 1 Cornell 0 (1st int.)
Post by: RichH on March 16, 2008, 04:44:09 AM
[quote imafrshmn]i love how away play-by-play announcers are so anticlimactic when we score~ "kennedy in the slot puckloosendhescores . . . "[/quote]

This is one of the many reasons why I liked Grady Whittenberg.  He made an exciting play sound exciting...no matter which team it benefited.
Title: Re: ECAC R2 G2: Union 2 Cornell 3 (final)
Post by: Jordan 04 on March 18, 2008, 11:41:33 AM
Anybody that emailed B2 hear back yet on that refund?

Wondering how long I should wait for a response before going ahead with the chargeback.
Title: Re: ECAC R2 G2: Union 2 Cornell 3 (final)
Post by: sah67 on March 18, 2008, 12:13:20 PM
[quote Jordan 04]Anybody that emailed B2 hear back yet on that refund?

Wondering how long I should wait for a response before going ahead with the chargeback.[/quote]

No response for me yet.  I'll probably call VISA by Friday.
Title: Re: ECAC R2 G2: Union 2 Cornell 3 (final)
Post by: jaybert on March 18, 2008, 11:24:43 PM
same, have not heard back eiher.  i sent another email today.  will file the chargeback thursday or friday.
Title: Re: ECAC R2 G2: Union 2 Cornell 3 (final)
Post by: jaybert on March 25, 2008, 05:37:16 PM
finally got a response back after sending another email today.  said they were sorry and my refund was being processed.