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Title: 3/7/08: Dartmouth 2 Cornell 3 (Final)
Post by: TShen on March 07, 2008, 06:54:12 PM
Cornell takes the first game in series. :-D

COR-1 Greening (R. Nash, P. Kennedy) 1:02 2nd
DAR-1 Owsiak PPG (Gaudet, Grecu) 3:11 2nd
DAR-2 Stejskal (unassisted) 13:00 2nd
COR-2 Sawada (B. Nash) 13:25 2nd
COR-3 Sawada PPG (M. Devin, M. Kennedy) 13:46 3rd
Title: Re: 3/7/08: Dartmouth 0 Cornell 0 (1st)
Post by: Al DeFlorio on March 07, 2008, 07:05:22 PM
The game is on but, of course, RedCast is not.  Women's basketball, however, works just fine.
Title: Re: 3/7/08: Dartmouth 0 Cornell 0 (1st)
Post by: Al DeFlorio on March 07, 2008, 07:08:07 PM
Finally up at 7:08
Title: Re: 3/7/08: Dartmouth 0 Cornell 0 (1st)
Post by: upperdeck on March 07, 2008, 07:12:40 PM
is it me or are we playing twice as much to watch a much worse picture?
Title: Re: 3/7/08: Dartmouth 0 Cornell 0 (1st)
Post by: Trotsky on March 07, 2008, 07:37:33 PM
It isn't just you.
Title: Re: 3/7/08: Dartmouth 0 Cornell 0 (2nd)
Post by: Jordan 04 on March 07, 2008, 07:53:12 PM
Greening!
Title: Re: 3/7/08: Dartmouth 0 Cornell 1 (2nd)
Post by: Killer on March 07, 2008, 07:53:26 PM
Greening!

Assists to Riley Nash and Patrick Kennedy
Title: Re: 3/7/08: Dartmouth 0 Cornell 0 (2nd)
Post by: gtsully on March 07, 2008, 07:54:51 PM
Greening?

Edit: got it - sweet.  Don't have the RedCast, or whatever it is, so thanks for the updates.
Title: Re: 3/7/08: Dartmouth 0 Cornell 0 (2nd)
Post by: Al DeFlorio on March 07, 2008, 07:58:21 PM
And Dartmouth ties it on a power play.
Title: Re: 3/7/08: Dartmouth 0 Cornell 1 (2nd)
Post by: jy3 on March 07, 2008, 08:02:45 PM
LGR!
Title: Re: 3/7/08: Dartmouth 0 Cornell 1 (2nd)
Post by: Trotsky on March 07, 2008, 08:07:56 PM
Very sloppy this period.
Title: Re: 3/7/08: Dartmouth 0 Cornell 0 (2nd)
Post by: Jordan 04 on March 07, 2008, 08:09:28 PM
[quote gtsully]Greening?

Edit: got it - sweet.  Don't have the RedCast, or whatever it is, so thanks for the updates.[/quote]

There's free audio from Dartmouth.

Google for WFRD and you'll find their station's website and live feed link.
Title: Re: 3/7/08: Dartmouth 2 Cornell 2 (2nd)
Post by: Killer on March 07, 2008, 08:18:47 PM
Sawada gets the equalizer.

LGR!
Title: Re: 3/7/08: Dartmouth 2 Cornell 2 (2nd)
Post by: Roy 82 on March 07, 2008, 08:21:19 PM
[quote Killer]Sawada gets the equalizer.

LGR![/quote]

25 seconds after Dartmouth takes the lead, that is.
Title: Re: 3/7/08: Dartmouth 2 Cornell 2 (2nd)
Post by: Al DeFlorio on March 07, 2008, 08:27:48 PM
Dartmouth power play sounded like a shooting gallery.
Title: Re: 3/7/08: Dartmouth 2 Cornell 2 (2nd)
Post by: Al DeFlorio on March 07, 2008, 08:28:40 PM
Cornell 28-22 over Penn, after trailing early as usual
Title: Re: 3/7/08: Dartmouth 2 Cornell 2 (2nd)
Post by: Killer on March 07, 2008, 08:31:03 PM
5 seconds of 3-on-3, then they get a few seconds of 4-on-3, now we're back on the PP.

Come on Red!
Title: Re: 3/7/08: Dartmouth 0 Cornell 0 (2nd)
Post by: jeff '84 on March 07, 2008, 08:36:23 PM
Red will start 3rd with a PP....
Title: Re: 3/7/08: Dartmouth 2 Cornell 2 (2nd)
Post by: Killer on March 07, 2008, 08:37:12 PM
Looks like we're starting the 3rd with a PP, thanks to Stejskal.  Hope they come out firing.
Title: Re: 3/7/08: Dartmouth 0 Cornell 0 (2nd)
Post by: pfm10 on March 07, 2008, 08:37:53 PM
[quote Jordan 04]There's free audio from Dartmouth.

Google for WFRD and you'll find their station's website and live feed link.[/quote]

Thanks for the tip
Title: Re: 3/7/08: Dartmouth 2 Cornell 2 (3rd)
Post by: jeff '84 on March 07, 2008, 09:06:53 PM
halfway through third....
Title: Re: 3/7/08: Dartmouth 2 Cornell 2 (3rd)
Post by: Trotsky on March 07, 2008, 09:07:55 PM
Choppy.  We need a good break.
Title: Re: 3/7/08: Dartmouth 2 Cornell 2 (3rd)
Post by: Trotsky on March 07, 2008, 09:14:40 PM
Gaudet: like father, like son.
Title: Re: 3/7/08: Dartmouth 2 Cornell 3 (3rd)
Post by: pfm10 on March 07, 2008, 09:15:13 PM
Devin PPG

Edit: Fix that, Sawada from Mike Devin and Topher Scott
Title: Re: 3/7/08: Dartmouth 2 Cornell 3 (3rd)
Post by: Killer on March 07, 2008, 09:15:16 PM
Yes!  PPG for Mike Devin!

Hmmm...did the Dartmouth announcer get the call right?  He said Devin, but LiveStats says Sawada
Title: Re: 3/7/08: Dartmouth 2 Cornell 2 (3rd)
Post by: Al DeFlorio on March 07, 2008, 09:16:21 PM
Penn 56-54 with 15:47 to go
Title: Re: 3/7/08: Dartmouth 2 Cornell 3 (3rd)
Post by: pfm10 on March 07, 2008, 09:16:32 PM
And another Cornell Powerplay is on
Title: Re: 3/7/08: Dartmouth 2 Cornell 2 (3rd)
Post by: Jordan 04 on March 07, 2008, 09:18:36 PM
Anybody else having a problem with the Dartmouth feed stopping after 15-20 seconds every time it is loaded?
Title: Re: 3/7/08: Dartmouth 2 Cornell 3 (3rd)
Post by: Larry72 on March 07, 2008, 09:21:26 PM
Yep!
Title: Re: 3/7/08: Dartmouth 2 Cornell 3 (3rd)
Post by: pfm10 on March 07, 2008, 09:21:27 PM
Sounds like the Brown/QU game is one to watch. Brown started the scoring, but then went down 5-1. With five seconds left in regulation, they tie it at 6.

Also sounded like Arthur Mintz gave the goal to Sawada with assists to Devin and Scott.
Title: Re: OOT
Post by: Killer on March 07, 2008, 09:22:07 PM
SLU wins 5-2.  RPI and Yale 2-2 going to OT.  And Brown refuses to die: came back from 5-1 deficit to tie at 6-6 and go to OT.
Title: Re: 3/7/08: Dartmouth 2 Cornell 3 (3rd)
Post by: pfm10 on March 07, 2008, 09:26:00 PM
0:59 left and Cornell goes to the powerplay
Title: Re: 3/7/08: Dartmouth 2 Cornell 3 (3rd)
Post by: jeff '84 on March 07, 2008, 09:26:21 PM
:59 left, PP Red.
Title: Re: 3/7/08: Dartmouth 2 Cornell 3 (3rd)
Post by: Trotsky on March 07, 2008, 09:26:24 PM
Wow, bonehead move by Dartmouth there.
Title: Re: 3/7/08: Dartmouth 2 Cornell 3 (3rd)
Post by: Killer on March 07, 2008, 09:27:33 PM
[quote pfm10]0:59 left and Cornell goes to the powerplay[/quote]

Thank you, Mr. Stajskel.
Title: Re: 3/7/08: Dartmouth 2 Cornell 3 (3rd)
Post by: Ben Rocky '04 on March 07, 2008, 09:29:41 PM
final?
Title: Re: 3/7/08: Dartmouth 2 Cornell 3 (3rd)
Post by: jy3 on March 07, 2008, 09:30:02 PM
LGR!
Title: Re: 3/7/08: Dartmouth 2 Cornell 3 (final)
Post by: pfm10 on March 07, 2008, 09:30:10 PM
[quote Ben Rocky '04]final?[/quote]

yes
Title: Re: 3/7/08: Dartmouth 2 Cornell 2 (3rd)
Post by: Al DeFlorio on March 07, 2008, 09:30:21 PM
Sounded like a strong third period--nice, for a change.
Title: Re: 3/7/08: Dartmouth 2 Cornell 3 (3rd)
Post by: jeff '84 on March 07, 2008, 09:31:06 PM
[quote Ben Rocky '04]final?[/quote]

Over!
Title: Re: 3/7/08: Dartmouth 2 Cornell 3 (3rd)
Post by: Jacob '06 on March 07, 2008, 09:31:39 PM
BBall down 69-64 with 10 mins left
Title: Re: 3/7/08: Dartmouth 2 Cornell 3 (Final)
Post by: Trotsky on March 07, 2008, 09:40:25 PM
Great third period -- dominance.  14-5 SOG and it seemed like 24-5.

Clutch performance by the Scott-Sawada-Mike Kennedy line, but the line of the night was Scali-Fontas-Mugford.  All three of them played out of their minds.
Title: Re: 3/7/08: Dartmouth 2 Cornell 3 (3rd)
Post by: Jacob '06 on March 07, 2008, 09:53:44 PM
[quote Jacob '06]BBall down 69-64 with 10 mins left[/quote]

They went on a tear and are now up 82-73 with 2:34 left.
Title: Re: 3/7/08: Dartmouth 2 Cornell 3 (Final)
Post by: redhair34 on March 07, 2008, 10:15:33 PM
[quote Trotsky]Mugford...  All three of them played out of their minds.[/quote]

He catches a lot of heat from folks here (not from me--he's probably my favorite player) some deserved, some not... but he's been an absolute force in the playoffs ever since he came to Cornell.
Title: Re: 3/7/08: Dartmouth 2 Cornell 3 (Final)
Post by: calgARI '07 on March 07, 2008, 10:27:13 PM
Someone better get this team a memo that the playoffs started tonight.  Generally brutal intensity throughout the game and more like an exhibition against a Canadian school than a playoff game at Lynah.

They did play a lot better in the third period and it was good to see Schafer was getting the Nash-Greening line out a lot more than he was last Saturday indicating they were going to try and win the game.  

Officiating was absolutely brutal in favor of Cornell.  Dartmouth got robbed over and over again throughout the game and Gaudet was certainly justified for freaking out.  Still can't get over that Brendan Nash continuous hook and slash on the Dartmouth breakaway in the second period that went uncalled.  Should have been a penalty shot.  

The powerplay needs to keep it simple and just get pucks to the net.  Too much holding on to the puck; not enough hard passes and not enough quick plays to get the PKers out of position.  The one time they move the puck and get it to the net they score.
Title: Re: 3/7/08: Dartmouth 2 Cornell 3 (Final)
Post by: Trotsky on March 07, 2008, 11:07:46 PM
The memo called.  It said, "we won."

RPI and Yale now into period 6 of their game.
Title: Re: 3/7/08: Dartmouth 2 Cornell 3 (Final)
Post by: marty on March 07, 2008, 11:09:52 PM
Yale wins in 3OT.
Title: Re: 3/7/08: Dartmouth 2 Cornell 3 (Final)
Post by: calgARI '07 on March 07, 2008, 11:12:57 PM
[quote Trotsky]The memo called.  It said, "we won."

[/quote]

OK well they sure lacked intensity for a playoff game against a vastly inferior opponent.  These guys are dreaming if they think they are going to just flick the 'on switch' for intensity next weekend.  It was tied going into the third period tonight and they scored on a gift powerplay in the third period.  They played well in the third period and probably deserved to win but just because they won doesn't mean they were as sharp as they could be.
Title: Re: 3/7/08: Dartmouth 2 Cornell 3 (Final)
Post by: Jim Hyla on March 07, 2008, 11:18:03 PM
Wow, Dekanich got pulled twice in Colgate's loss.
Title: Re: 3/7/08: Dartmouth 2 Cornell 3 (Final)
Post by: Oat on March 08, 2008, 12:09:46 AM
Poor Dekanich.
Title: Re: 3/7/08: Dartmouth 2 Cornell 3 (Final)
Post by: DisplacedCornellian on March 08, 2008, 08:30:50 AM
[quote calgARI '07][quote Trotsky]The memo called.  It said, "we won."

[/quote]

OK well they sure lacked intensity for a playoff game against a vastly inferior opponent.  These guys are dreaming if they think they are going to just flick the 'on switch' for intensity next weekend.  It was tied going into the third period tonight and they scored on a gift powerplay in the third period.  They played well in the third period and probably deserved to win but just because they won doesn't mean they were as sharp as they could be.[/quote]

Jesus, you're a ball of negativity.  What do you get out of watching Cornell hockey?  It certainly doesn't seem like you take any pleasure in it.  Sure, I can see being upset or critical once in a while, but it seems that ALL YOU DO is criticize and complain.  We all know this isn't the 02-03 or 04-05 team.  Try to take some joy in the moments when they do succeed, instead of constantly bitching and moaning.
Title: Re: 3/7/08: Dartmouth 2 Cornell 3 (Final)
Post by: daredevilcu on March 08, 2008, 09:41:02 AM
[quote calgARI '07]Officiating was absolutely brutal in favor of Cornell.  Dartmouth got robbed over and over again throughout the game and Gaudet was certainly justified for freaking out.  Still can't get over that Brendan Nash continuous hook and slash on the Dartmouth breakaway in the second period that went uncalled.  Should have been a penalty shot.[/quote]

I am glad to see someone say this before I got a chance to.  The most obviously terrible calls were the no-call on the penalty shot and the trip that led to the GWG.  That trip was entirely Greening's fault.  The Dartmouth player was knocked down while grinding in the corner, Greening turned, skated through his legs, and fell.  Garbage.
Title: Re: 3/7/08: Dartmouth 2 Cornell 3 (Final)
Post by: calgARI '07 on March 08, 2008, 12:30:05 PM
[quote DisplacedCornellian]

Jesus, you're a ball of negativity.  What do you get out of watching Cornell hockey?  It certainly doesn't seem like you take any pleasure in it.  Sure, I can see being upset or critical once in a while, but it seems that ALL YOU DO is criticize and complain.  We all know this isn't the 02-03 or 04-05 team.  Try to take some joy in the moments when they do succeed, instead of constantly bitching and moaning.[/quote]

I love comments like this.  No interest at all in commenting on any of the points.  I have no problem if you disagree with the points I made about the game but calling me negative and questioning what I get out of the team is totally pointless.  I thought we're discussing the game here, not my feelings.  I don't just go to games with pompoms.
Title: Re: 3/7/08: Dartmouth 2 Cornell 3 (Final)
Post by: HockeyMan on March 08, 2008, 12:40:37 PM
[quote DisplacedCornellian][quote calgARI '07][quote Trotsky]The memo called.  It said, "we won."

[/quote]

OK well they sure lacked intensity for a playoff game against a vastly inferior opponent.  These guys are dreaming if they think they are going to just flick the 'on switch' for intensity next weekend.  It was tied going into the third period tonight and they scored on a gift powerplay in the third period.  They played well in the third period and probably deserved to win but just because they won doesn't mean they were as sharp as they could be.[/quote]

Jesus, you're a ball of negativity.  What do you get out of watching Cornell hockey?  It certainly doesn't seem like you take any pleasure in it.  Sure, I can see being upset or critical once in a while, but it seems that ALL YOU DO is criticize and complain.  We all know this isn't the 02-03 or 04-05 team.  Try to take some joy in the moments when they do succeed, instead of constantly bitching and moaning.[/quote]

This is ridiculous.  Reading Ari's posts last week and last night reminds me why we miss his (regular) presence on ELF this year.  The postgame threads have been sadly lacking in serious analysis all season long (who played well and who didn't, which lines worked, etc), as mostly we get treated to clever one-liners and trips down memory lane.  So they eke out a win at home against a weak Dartmouth team and we're supposed to abandon all critical analysis?  

Ari's point last week is right on: Schafer, defensively-minded to the core, is not using his skill players effectively.  It showed in spades against Harvard, as the fourth line logged huge minutes against a Crimson team that exhibited strikingly little firepower. The same was true last night. Do Winchester and Burton get more even-strength minutes in big games than some of their teammates?  Do Ovechkin and Backstrom?  Of course they do.   But not Nash and Greening.
Title: Re: 3/7/08: Dartmouth 2 Cornell 3 (Final)
Post by: ebilmes on March 08, 2008, 02:41:15 PM
Attendance last night is listed as 4022. This number doesn't account for all the gaps in the student sections, nor for some good-sized gaps on the townie side (I thought those tickets were in high demand?). And, of course, half of Section 0 was empty.

As Ari said, it definitely was not a playoff atmosphere, between the team's lackluster play and fan indifference.

It was a dull, ugly game, but a win is a win. I think we'll take it tonight.
Title: Re: 3/7/08: Dartmouth 2 Cornell 3 (Final)
Post by: upperdeck on March 08, 2008, 03:04:58 PM
I know alot of people bought tickets but didnt get to the game because of the weather.. it was brutal outside of town.
Title: Re: 3/7/08: Dartmouth 2 Cornell 3 (Final)
Post by: evilnaturedrobot on March 08, 2008, 03:50:24 PM
the weather has certainly been worse on other weekends this winter than last night, the attendance confused me too.

Last night was one of the lightest attendances of the season, confused the hell out of me.


And regardless of how justified he may have been (and I agree that the Nash slash then hook on the breakaway was one of the worst non-calls that i've ever seen),gaudet has to show more restraint.  You can't abuse a ref for 2 minutes straight in front of 4000 people (listed, I'd put the actuall attendance in the 3500 range) and expect to not get a bench minor.  Many refs would have given it too him sooner.  He was out of line.

However, his temper tantrum was completely hilarious to watch and I very much hope he throws another one tonight =).

,
Title: Re: 3/7/08: Dartmouth 2 Cornell 3 (Final)
Post by: Jim Hyla on March 08, 2008, 04:04:13 PM
[quote upperdeck]I know alot of people bought tickets but didnt get to the game because of the weather.. it was brutal outside of town.[/quote]

Well, I don't know about brutal. We drove down from Syracuse, snow on 81 and rain the closer we got to Ithaca. I've certainly had a lot worse weather. I think this happens most years; many people don't plan the playoffs and don't buy their tickets with their season tickets. Then they have other plans or just don't care enough, especially in a "down year".
Title: Re: 3/7/08: Dartmouth 2 Cornell 3 (Final)
Post by: redice on March 08, 2008, 04:10:43 PM
[quote evilnaturedrobot]
the weather has certainly been worse on other weekends this winter than last night, the attendance confused me too.

Last night was one of the lightest attendances of the season, confused the hell out of me.[/quote]

I agree.   We drove our usual 30 miles to get to the game.  Last night was nothing exceptionally bad.   After all, this is early-March in upstate NY.   What do people expect?   Skipping the game was not an option that was even considered in my household!!


[quote evilnaturedrobot]
However, his temper tantrum was completely hilarious to watch and I very much hope he throws another one tonight =). [/quote]

When I witness these magic moments, I always recall the tantrum that Toot Cahoon threw during one of his visits to Lynah with Princeton.   It was followed by "Toot Needs A Hug" chant.   That was priceless.  And, I wish that type of humor would find its way back into the Lynah Faithful arsenal.   Gaudet clearly needed a hug!!  =)    That's good clean fun to which the most grumpiest of ushers could not object.
Title: Re: 3/7/08: Dartmouth 2 Cornell 3 (Final)
Post by: evilnaturedrobot on March 08, 2008, 04:17:31 PM
well, those of us in section A did respond with an "anger management" chant, but I agree that "toot needs a hug" is far funnier (in retrospect I think "deep breaths" might have been a good choice.)"  I actually had a conversation with a housemate after last night's game about possible Gaudet taunts for tonight.  I think the faithful need to get to the root of his anger problem by engaging in some public psychoanalysis.  Perhaps Mr. Gaudet was not hugged enough as a child?  I think these issues should be explored tonight at Lynah Skating Rink.
Title: Re: 3/7/08: Dartmouth 2 Cornell 3 (Final)
Post by: Scersk '97 on March 08, 2008, 04:27:10 PM
[quote HockeyMan]The postgame threads have been sadly lacking in serious analysis all season long (who played well and who didn't, which lines worked, etc), as mostly we get treated to clever one-liners and trips down memory lane.[/quote]

I suppose I'm one of the offenders in the "trips down memory lane" department, but it's difficult not to respond in that way when calgAri is brutally brutal towards the team.  I mean, his brutal analyses of their brutal play can be pretty brutal to read; they are particularly brutal on historical perspective.  Were there some sort of ray of (brutal?) hope in his brutality, the reactions of many on eLF would be far less brutal.
Title: Re: 3/7/08: Dartmouth 2 Cornell 3 (Final)
Post by: Al DeFlorio on March 08, 2008, 04:39:39 PM
[quote Scersk '97]I suppose I'm one of the offenders in the "trips down memory lane" department, but it's difficult not to respond in that way when calgAri is brutally brutal towards the team.  I mean, his brutal analyses of their brutal play can be pretty brutal to read; they are particularly brutal on historical perspective.  Were there some sort of ray of (brutal?) hope in his brutality, the reactions of many on eLF would be far less brutal.[/quote]
For me it's simply a matter of tone:  bitter, angry, almost vindictive, rather than analytical.  It reads like Ari thinks the team and its coach owe him something.