8 hours until Puckdrop. Let's hear it.
Last weekend was a bit painful....Everything I've read predicts a 4 point weekend to revenge the wound. Thoughts? Questions? Comments? Concerns? Snide Remarks?
As a personal diatribe, I'm going to say right here and now that I think all feces-related shouts, poop jokes, crap references, fecal-matter-memorabilia, scat-skates, bowel-ballads, and colon conquering cheers should be left at home...
We're a lot smarter than that, and (I can't believe I'm writing this) it doesn't make Cornell look good at all when we show exhasperated glee to discover what color our dumps are. Please, please, please, let's find something else to yell.
Poop.
What color is poop?
If its brown flush it down!
Around the bowl and down the hole!
Quote from: LaJollaRedAs a personal diatribe, I'm going to say right here and now that I think all feces-related shouts, poop jokes, crap references, fecal-matter-memorabilia, scat-skates, bowel-ballads, and colon conquering cheers should be left at home...
It looks like you're fighting a losing battle here.
With Princeton and Quinnipiac both playing in non-league games, and Union facing off against Clarkson tonight, this certainly seems like an opportune weekend to pick up 4 points and jump into 2nd in the conference in points.
I certainly expect and hope for another 4 point weekend as well against these teams. Yale played us well last time around, and Cornell was able to put in its best game of the year in a performance- an all around complete effort where aspects of the game were working correctly, and Scrivens losing the shutout in the final seconds to make the score 2-1 was not at all representative of the play.
Brown, on the other hand, came out skating harder, faster and more physical than we did. Luckilly they wore themselves out after the first period and we could then figure out how to match their intensity last meeting. While I certainly expect a win in both games, in this year's ECAC neither team is to be taken lightly- Brown can play a tough physical game and Yale, definitely the more skilled team, does have the speed and finishing prowess to beat us.
[quote LaJollaRed]8 hours until Puckdrop. Let's hear it.
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Puck? I thought it was soccer.
Quarter of, video's up.
Are these new uniforms for Brown? I seem to remember a big B centered on the jersey in previous years, instead of Brown spelled out in script.
Barlow back with Nash and Greening. P. Kennedy with Gallagher and J. Devin.
Sibbald in net for Brown. What happened to Rosen...injured?
If Sibbald's GAA (3.22) and save % (.921) are correct, he's seeing 41 shots per game.
Rosen's having a not-so-hot year.
Time for Bill Howard to have an orgasm....they showed a replay!
Riley hits post on a nice individual effort, and then gets nailed from behind...no call.
Great offensive pressure by us so far. Brown is terrible in their own zone...hopefully we can light them up a few times.
I don't think we are going to have many issues with the breakout tonight if they let us skate right through them like that all night long. Cornell is dominating this game so far.
[quote Jacob '06]Time for Bill Howard to have an orgasm....they showed a replay![/quote]
haha yeah and the replay is better quality than the live stream..hmm??
And the all-too-frequent penalty taken in the offensive zone.::pissed::
Brown pp coming up. Good a time as any for us to score the first shortie of the season (!).
Cornell pp coming up
Sawada! PPG
Finally Sawada gets a goal.
Good offensive pressure during the power plya
And a Henrik Lundqvist moment from Scrivens. Please don't play the puck!
M. Kennedy!
Mike Kennedy, roof shot
I hear a "We want Rosen" chant.
[quote sah67]I hear a "We want Rosen" chant.[/quote]
And I heard a NASCAR reference out of Jason.
Brown being pretty chippy...standard fare from them.
R Nash baited, takes penalty for slashing
Lots of cheap shots after the whistle
Typically brown hackery...
"Have Mugford on while he's still in the game..."::yark::
Great first period. When you're playing a clearly inferior team, get ahead early so they lose interest. So far so good.
Mugford's pretty well-spoken ::looking::
Penalties
19:46 Cornel: R Nash
20:00 Cornel: Mugford
20:00 Brown: Timberlake
20:00 Brown: Hurley
14 shots, 100% PK, 100% PP...not a bad first period ;)
We even get replays of "hits!" Fantastic!
Cornell looks slow, Seminoff, B Nash in box
Brown 5x3 coming up. M. Kennedy almost netted our first SHG of the season going in on a breakway off the face-off.
Puck gets by Scrivens but the whistle blew first.
Looked like it was a goal,
Cornell lucked out.
Murphy electing to ignore most of Brown's dirty play
Bad defense. Nash, Greening, Seminoff too focused on scoring a goal.
Krantz = pylon on that goal
[quote Al DeFlorio]Krantz = pylon[/quote]
FYP
Refs have been really lax on calling penalties on bad hits/elbows/roughings stuff like that the past 2 weeks.
[quote Jacob '06]Refs have been really lax on calling penalties on bad hits/elbows/roughings stuff like that the past 2 weeks.[/quote]
There's also been a lot of scoreboard reffing.
We've lost intensity and this one could easily slip away. Two terrible plays on D.
[quote Al DeFlorio]We've lost intensity and this one could easily slip away. Two terrible plays on D.[/quote]
Agreed. Exactly the sort of thing the team was talking about avoiding all this week in the paper.
Cornell lacked intensity in the second period. They weren't hustling back on defense during Brown rushes.
R Nash is a great player, but he needs to do his part on defense. He was in the slot on the Brown scoring rush and didn't react when the puck showed up.
After watching the replays on the Brown goal, it is clear that the Brown skater took out Scrivens in the crease allowing the follower to knock it into an open net.
Had the refs the benefit of a replay, would that goal stand? Can you take out the goalie like that? It seems like this happens all the time and never gets called.
Video replays during intermissions = good, audio replays = bad. Left food cooking on the stove to run to the computer when I hear "SAWADA GOAL!!" only to find Jason reliving the past.
The 5x3 kill was in the second, and that was great.
how is that a hand pass?
[quote lynah80]
R Nash is a great player, but he needs to do his part on defense. He was in the slot on the Brown scoring rush and didn't react when the puck showed up.[/quote]
He's been a total disappointment lately (since the beginning of 08). He hasn't been working hard enough away from the puck in all three zones.
[quote redhair34][quote lynah80]
R Nash is a great player, but he needs to do his part on defense. He was in the slot on the Brown scoring rush and didn't react when the puck showed up.[/quote]
He's been a total disappointment lately (since the beginning of 08). He hasn't been working hard enough away from the puck in all three zones.[/quote]
His sniping display against SLU and impressive D and physical play against both North Country teams = total dissapointment?
Jason sounds annoyed that Scali took a dive to draw a penalty...hell, we'll take it ;)
Gallagher PPG! 2/3 on the pp tonight! A real soft one too.
Blake Gallagher scores a soft goal.
Horrible giveaway by Seminoff (!!) in our zone nearly leads to another Brown goal.
[quote sah67][quote redhair34][quote lynah80]
R Nash is a great player, but he needs to do his part on defense. He was in the slot on the Brown scoring rush and didn't react when the puck showed up.[/quote]
He's been a total disappointment lately (since the beginning of 08). He hasn't been working hard enough away from the puck in all three zones.[/quote]
His sniping display against SLU and impressive D and physical play against both North Country teams = total dissapointment?[/quote]
I wouldn't call his D against the north country impressive. He was especially horrible on the breakout, trying to do everything himself and just turning the puck over.
Greening walks out from behind the net and nearly stuffs one past Sibbald before losing control of the puck.
How much time left?
[quote Jeff Hopkins '82]How much time left?[/quote]
About 6 mins
Yikes, Yale 5-0 at Colgate so far.
Union just went up 2-1 on SLU with 13 mins left. What is up with them this year?
Joe Devin scores on a breakaway!
Joe Devin on the breakaway
[quote Jacob '06]Union just went up 2-1 on SLU with 13 mins left. What is up with them this year?[/quote]
Uh...they're playing well?
[quote Jacob '06]Union just went up 2-1 on SLU with 13 mins left. What is up with them this year?[/quote]
I don't know but at this point Lehman has to be the front runner for COTY.
[quote RichH][quote Jacob '06]Union just went up 2-1 on SLU with 13 mins left. What is up with them this year?[/quote]
Uh...they're playing well?[/quote]
Did they get a new president that doesn't think an above .500 season is succesful or something? This is Union we're talking about.
A little sloppy, but still a good win for the Big Red.
[quote redhair34][quote Jacob '06]Union just went up 2-1 on SLU with 13 mins left. What is up with them this year?[/quote]
I don't know but at this point Lehman has to be the front runner for COTY.[/quote]
He and Guy Gadowsky are certainly in the running.
Dirty, dirty play by Brown tonight...especially gooning it up right at the end there trying to start a fight with less than a second left.
Tough one tomorrow night. Can't take a period off like tonight.
[quote Roy 82]After watching the replays on the Brown goal, it is clear that the Brown skater took out Scrivens in the crease allowing the follower to knock it into an open net.
Had the refs the benefit of a replay, would that goal stand? Can you take out the goalie like that? It seems like this happens all the time and never gets called.[/quote]
That's a great question. I am afraid that I don't know the answer but I am sure that someone here will.::innocent::
I didn't see the play in question, so I'm not exactly sure what the issue is, but here are a few possibly relevant snippets from the rule book.
There was a minor change for 2005-2006
Quote from: NCAA ice hockey rule bookNew wording: 6-18-c (7) Attacking player may be in goal crease as long as they do not interfere with goalkeeper defending goal
POINT OF EMPHASIS
Goalkeeper Interference
The committee voted to alter the rule regarding the crease. However, this should not be construed as a lessening on the protections allowed the goalkeeper. Any time an opposing player prevents the goalkeeper from preventing a goal, interference must be called.
6-6 CHARGING. a. A player shall not skate more than two steps or jump into or charge an opponent. Charging is the action of a player, who as a result of distance traveled, checks an opponent violently in any manner from the front or side.
Note: A fair body check is one in which a player checks an opponent who is in possession of the puck, by using the hip or body from the front or diagonally from the front or straight from the side.
PENALTY—Minor or major at discretion of the referee.
b. A player shall not charge or otherwise foul a goalkeeper while the goalkeeper is within the crease or privileged area (see 6-19-b-2-g).
PENALTY—Minor or major at discretion of the referee.
6-18-c A goal shall not be allowed in any of the following cases:
...
(7) If any member of the attacking team (other than the player in possession of the puck) was in or skating through the goal crease when the goal was scored from outside the crease, unless:
i. The goalkeeper was outside the crease when the goal was scored; or
ii. An attacking player was in the crease but, in the opinion of the official, did not prevent the goalkeeper from defending the goal.
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6-19-b (2) Within the privileged area bounded in the rear by the goalkeeper's end of the rink, in front by an imaginary line connecting the special spots and on the sides by imaginary lines from the special spots to the end boards, the goalkeeper has certain privileges (see rink diagram). When outside of this area, the goalkeeper does not have these privileges and must play the puck in the same manner as that prescribed for other players, and is subject to the same penalties as other players (see 4-7-c).
(g) The goalkeeper shall not be body checked in the privileged area or within the crease (see 6-6-b).
SECTION 6-22. A player shall not make physical contact with an opponent, including the goalkeeper (see 6-6-b), anywhere on the ice after the whistle has blown if, in the opinion of a referee, the player had sufficient time after the whistle to avoid such contact.
Waving of arms in front of a goalkeeper by an opponent is interference.
29-2 c. A player of the attacking team may stand on the goal crease line or in the goal crease, or skate through the goal crease while the attacking team has possession of the puck, unless, in the opinion of the official, the player is preventing the goalkeeper from defending the goal. A player of the attacking team may stand or stay in the crease when the puck is in the crease or when the player has possession of the puck.
SECTION 50. A player shall not deliberately spray the goalkeeper.
SECTION 59. The use of video replay is permissible in any game using either of the following procedures:
a. NCAA Championship Procedures.
(1) Areplay must be conclusive for an instant-replay official to overturn an on-ice official's call. One of the following criteria must be met for replay to be used:
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(i) To determine if an attacking player was illegally in the goal crease and prevented the goalkeeper from defending the goal when the puck entered the goal cage;
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Thanks David. What I saw on the replay was that the Brown player took out Scrivens preventing him from defending the goal. A Cornell player was pursuing him but did not appear to cause him to hit the goalie.
As I said, this situation seems to happen quite often and a penalty or denied goal rarely called.
I've seen standing in the way of a goalie or tapping him a bit, but if you look closely it just looked to me like Scrivens was hip checked and that's a bit much.