In response to the questions on the lyrics of the soccer style chant we're trying to adopt in section A:
Cornell x5
When you come
to play at Lynah
Then we'll give your goalies hell!
You can listen to the tune.
This would be fantastic if the entire student section could get on the same page! What tune are the lyrics set to?
It reminds me of a cheer from the old days:
http://www.metaezra.com/archive/2007/05/the_cornell_battle_cry.shtml
The chant is copied from a soccer chant I heard at a Real Madrid home game over winter break. Unfortunately, try as I might I can't find a video or audio clip of it happening. The words are mine, LaJollaRed's, and our friend Steve's. We still think it's too positive, but we're no good at lyric writing.
It's the sort of chant that comes very easily once you hear it once, though, and doesn't need the band to start. We don't have any songs to use during play, and I thought this would help out. From experience, I guarantee that it sounds ridiculously intimidating if a large crowd is belting it out very loudly, particularly a mostly-male crowd.
Our other new cheer attempt yesterday was met with more success. Whenever a Nash scores, we're merely ramping up the baseball-style "charge!" song, singing the word Nash at the right frequency and pitch. Instead of charge at the end, we let out a big "scores!"
It's not great, but if the crowd got into it, I think it could really work out.
The soccer chant style song is EXACTLY what we need at games. We'll try to make it happen on Sunday against Clarkson, and hopefully some people will have read this and know what it's all about. As for the chant itself, it's catchy and simple enough to get going. I wouldn't mind having several songs like this in the arsenal--hopefully this might spur on some creativity (!!!) in the fans. The nice thing about it is that it's not only loud and intimidating and a change of pace from "LGR" all the time, but that it can last for a while and get carried around the rink from A.
What is the speed of the 5 Cornells? Would I be right in assuming that the last three come faster than the first two (so that it matches the tempo of the rest)?
Can you make a recording of these? Over in section F we are never going to hear you.
Well, if you can get enough people on board for tomorrow afternoon, it might be picked up by ESPNU and we can throw it on YouTube. Maybe print out some lyric sheets and distribute them during the intermissions?
I always enjoyed the chants that take place at Lynah East. Typically we'll start off with a 'Grade Inflation' chant, to which the Cantabrigians respond with 'SUNY-Ithaca', and we'll retort with 'Blue Blood' or 'Silver Spoon'. It gets pretty entertaining.
Here's a quick little ditty for you try:
Welcome to Lyn-ah,
Now we're gonna kill-yah.
[quote dietlbomb]Can you make a recording of these? Over in section F we are never going to hear you.[/quote]
Or in section M, for that matter. (Yeah, it'll just be me singing, I'm sure.)
I propose saying "hell" 3x in the same time interval and shouting it.
we give your goalies hell! hell! hell!
[quote imafrshmn]The soccer chant style song is EXACTLY what we need at games. We'll try to make it happen on Sunday against Clarkson, and hopefully some people will have read this and know what it's all about. As for the chant itself, it's catchy and simple enough to get going. I wouldn't mind having several songs like this in the arsenal--hopefully this might spur on some creativity (!!!) in the fans. The nice thing about it is that it's not only loud and intimidating and a change of pace from "LGR" all the time, but that it can last for a while and get carried around the rink from A.[/quote]
I think BMac is thinking of the soccer fan anthem, "Ole, Ole, Ole." Click this link to hear it: http://fanchants.com/football-songs/sheffield_utd-chants/ole-ole-ole/.
Besides singing "Ole" five times, the rest of the song will vary. "We are the champions; we are the champions" is one common verse. There are others. Google "Ole, Ole, Ole lyrics" to see more.
[quote French Rage]What is the speed of the 5 Cornells? Would I be right in assuming that the last three come faster than the first two (so that it matches the tempo of the rest)?[/quote]
This would scan correctly for the tune I'm thinking of, that I hear at lots of European sporting events, which sounds to me a lot like "Clementine":
Dah-dah
Dah-dah
Dah-dah, dah-dah, dah-dah
Da da dah-dah [oh my darlin]
Da da dah-dah [oh my darlin]
Da da dah-dah dah-dah-dah [oh my darlin Clementine]
Is that the one?
Okay, now who wants to revive my idea of making Big Red Hockey fanscarves?
YES! It is my darling clementine! Perfect!
I hadn't read all the responses before the game, or we would have tried it. Ok, this is happening now. This is excellent!
still have no idea what you're talking about, and no one's going to know what's going on in Section F. The faster we can get a sound clip of this sung, the better
Madrid are the scum of the earth, therefore I refuse to chant anything you got from them. Nothing personal. B-]
Were you able to try this out at the rink?
Can you record something (doesn't matter where, just in your dorm room is fine) and post a link to an mp3?
You can listen to the tune here (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gkZAe8RlgGk)
Interesting. This could potentially work well if one could get all of sections A and B to sing the song at the start of the game. (Of course, that's predicated on the students actually getting to the game on time.)
Start of the 2nd?
Soccer chant? Ew.
Sorry I still hate soccer.
I've been to a few US soccer games where we chant this, followed by U-S-A all while jumping. I'm not sure why the jumping happens, but it's a lot of fun. After about three of these, the section switches to the deliberate clap cheer. A lot of baseball stadiums play a drum beat that matches the clap. I'm not sure how to describe the clap other than saying it's 9 total (long long quick quick quick, pause, quick quick quick quick) and then a yell of U-S with arms in the air. The whole thing would both look and sound pretty damn good if you could get everyone to do it. (I'm guessing a "Go Red" at the end would work)
Your loss ;-)
[quote KeithK]Soccer chant? Ew.
Sorry I still hate soccer.[/quote]
That's okay. I'm a soccer fan and I hate baseball, so there is balance in the force... ::starwars::
[quote Josh99] Madrid are the scum of the earth, therefore I refuse to chant anything you got from them.[/quote]
[quote KeithK]Soccer chant? Ew.
Sorry I still hate soccer.[/quote]
Self-righteous fan morality cracks me up.
Well, that's fine, but if this catches on in Lynah, grass isn't going to sprout through the ice, Colin Greening isn't going to head the puck, and Riley Nash isn't going to develop a bicycle kick. If the end result is more noise, more crowd fun, and a better home-ice advantage, then I'm all for it, no matter what the derivation. Getting the student section singing, yelling, stomping, jumping, and clapping trumps out just standing there silently, which happens a lot more than it should.
*shakes cane*
My first (and so far only) non-collegiate soccer game was a US game prior to the last World Cup and participated in this song/cheer. It was fun.
Note that this, like many other "soccer chants", is also popular at hockey--sorry, ice hockey--games in Europe.
[quote RichH]
[quote KeithK]Soccer chant? Ew.
Sorry I still hate soccer.[/quote]
Self-righteous fan morality cracks me up.[/quote]
Morality? Hardly. Just pure unadulterated opinion. It's not like I said soccer was evil or anything. It is, of course, but I didn't say that. :-P
[quote RichH][quote Josh99] Madrid are the scum of the earth, therefore I refuse to chant anything you got from them.[/quote]
[quote KeithK]Soccer chant? Ew.
Sorry I still hate soccer.[/quote]
Self-righteous fan morality cracks me up.
Well, that's fine, but if this catches on in Lynah, grass isn't going to sprout through the ice, Colin Greening isn't going to head the puck, and Riley Nash isn't going to develop a bicycle kick. If the end result is more noise, more crowd fun, and a better home-ice advantage, then I'm all for it, no matter what the derivation. Getting the student section singing, yelling, stomping, jumping, and clapping trumps out just standing there silently, which happens a lot more than it should.
*shakes cane*
My first (and so far only) non-collegiate soccer game was a US game prior to the last World Cup and participated in this song/cheer. It was fun.[/quote]
As long as Sawada doesn't start falling over when he's breathed on to draw a hooking call, I'm on board.
[quote KeithK]Soccer chant? Ew.
Sorry I still hate soccer.[/quote]
Keith, I knew you'd say that as soon as this thread started. But I'm with Rich -- whatever gets us loud is worth it, no matter where the chant originated. (Couldn't have said it any better myself, man!) That's why I hope these guys get something started. So many of the old chants have died out (see the Cheers section -- do we ever do goalie/sieve or its variations anymore? I think not). Time to either bring them back or start some new stuff.
Besides, I don't see any reason whatsoever to hate soccer, anyway. It's just like hockey -- so low-scoring that each goal is that much more important. I mean, that's the reason why I don't watch the NBA. BO-ring.
[quote A-ron]I've been to a few US soccer games where we chant this, followed by U-S-A all while jumping. I'm not sure why the jumping happens, but it's a lot of fun. After about three of these, the section switches to the deliberate clap cheer. A lot of baseball stadiums play a drum beat that matches the clap. I'm not sure how to describe the clap other than saying it's 9 total (long long quick quick quick, pause, quick quick quick quick) and then a yell of U-S with arms in the air. The whole thing would both look and sound pretty damn good if you could get everyone to do it. (I'm guessing a "Go Red" at the end would work)[/quote]
clap, clap, clap-clap-clap, clap-clap-clap-clap, GO RED!
[quote HeafDog][quote KeithK]Soccer chant? Ew.
Sorry I still hate soccer.[/quote]
Keith, I knew you'd say that as soon as this thread started.[/quote]
I tried not to. After all, I did make five whole days without a comment. But after a while and too many new posts I couldn't resist chiming in. I'm trolling on this thread. I admit it.
[quote HeafDog]Besides, I don't see any reason whatsoever to hate soccer, anyway. It's just like hockey -- so low-scoring that each goal is that much more important. I mean, that's the reason why I don't watch the NBA. BO-ring.[/quote]
Yeah, you probably knew it was coming, but, there's no comparison. Hockey has scoring chances every 30 seconds. That's hardly true for soccer. Soccer is more like baseball, you can watch a game while doing something else and still keep on top of the action.
It doesn't matter as much what the score is, but how often you see a chance. No comparison.
Can someone post an audio clip of the proposed chant being sung?
See above -- I added youtube to the subject heading
I shouldn't be letting myself get sucked into this. I actually think there are a lot of similarities between soccer and hockey, maybe not in scoring chances, but certainly in strategy. It's quite similar to indoor soccer, especially when you can play off the wall. I appreciated hockey immediately (fairly recently) because of my knowledge of and love for soccer. You can't "watch" soccer like baseball and hope to appreciate the game.
[quote kfish]I shouldn't be letting myself get sucked into this. I actually think there are a lot of similarities between soccer and hockey, maybe not in scoring chances, but certainly in strategy. It's quite similar to indoor soccer, especially when you can play off the wall. I appreciated hockey immediately (fairly recently) because of my knowledge of and love for soccer. You can't "watch" soccer like baseball and hope to appreciate the game.[/quote]
If you bring in indoor soccer you make a whole new case. I agree with you about similar strategy, there's a lot of transition in both. However, outdoor soccer does it at a turtle's pace, while hockey is like the hare. That's why I said you can do something else at the same time. Looking up occasionally can keep you in it. Indoor soccer is much faster and closer to hockey.
In fact, a lot of the indoor soccer arenas I've played in are old, converted hockey rinks. Usually 5 field players and a goalie, "icing" rules apply if the ball is in the air the whole time over midfield(goalie only) to prevent just playing catch from keeper to keeper. They say there's no checking allowed in indoor soccer, but anyone who's played in those hockey-style fields knows that's just not true.
Outdoor soccer moves at a slow pace if you're watching it on TV. Watch it in person, especially high school and college (I think) where you're allowed more than three substitutions for the entire game, and it becomes much faster paced. Players don't have to worry as much about conserving energy for 90 minutes and they sprint almost the whole time.
[quote RichH]Riley Nash isn't going to develop a bicycle kick.[/quote]
No, but wouldn't it be so cool if he did?!
[quote BMac]In response to the questions on the lyrics of the soccer style chant we're trying to adopt in section A:
Cornell x5
When you come
to play at Lynah
Then we'll give your goalies hell!
You can listen to the tune.[/quote]
BMac.... I've tried doing the chant myself and I think for both the sake of making it easier to go from the end back to the beginning and for a better sound, the first Cornell should be replaced by Ohhhhh. I also think yelling Hell 3x would be neat, but we'll see what works.
Ohhhh Corneellll
Cornell Cornell Cornellll
When you coooommmme
To play at Lynahhhhh
Then we give your goalies Hellll (Hell! Hell!)
[quote imafrshmn][quote BMac]In response to the questions on the lyrics of the soccer style chant we're trying to adopt in section A:
Cornell x5
When you come
to play at Lynah
Then we'll give your goalies hell!
You can listen to the tune.[/quote]
BMac.... I've tried doing the chant myself and I think for both the sake of making it easier to go from the end back to the beginning and for a better sound, the first Cornell should be replaced by Ohhhhh. I also think yelling Hell 3x would be neat, but we'll see what works.
Ohhhh Corneellll
Cornell Cornell Cornellll
When you coooommmme
To play at Lynahhhhh
Then we give your goalies Hellll (Hell! Hell!)[/quote]
Haven't you figured out by now that when a cheer needs to be punctuated with 2 syllables, there's a 95% chance that it will eventually become "you suck!" (for 3 syllables, insert the word "just") despite your best efforts? A few notable exceptions involve "Go Red!"
:-)
another YouTube link to the chant, I think this one makes it a bit clearer:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N7VZY3XMDG0&NR=1
What if you use the old "We will We will Rock you " with PUCK YOU instead of ROCK YOU tee hee haha LMAO
[quote RichH][quote imafrshmn][quote BMac]In response to the questions on the lyrics of the soccer style chant we're trying to adopt in section A:
Cornell x5
When you come
to play at Lynah
Then we'll give your goalies hell!
You can listen to the tune.[/quote]
BMac.... I've tried doing the chant myself and I think for both the sake of making it easier to go from the end back to the beginning and for a better sound, the first Cornell should be replaced by Ohhhhh. I also think yelling Hell 3x would be neat, but we'll see what works.
Ohhhh Corneellll
Cornell Cornell Cornellll
When you coooommmme
To play at Lynahhhhh
Then we give your goalies Hellll (Hell! Hell!)[/quote]
Haven't you figured out by now that when a cheer needs to be punctuated with 2 syllables, there's a 95% chance that it will eventually become "you suck!" (for 3 syllables, insert the word "just") despite your best efforts? A few notable exceptions involve "Go Red!"
:-)[/quote]
You're right about the real risk of having the end bastardized into a "you suck".
Maybe we should just do "Go Red!" from the start.
All 30 USA soccer fans showed up for the video...
Oh relax, it was just a bit of hyperbole. :-P
[quote Jim Hyla]Soccer is more like baseball, you can watch a game while doing something else and still keep on top of the action.[/quote]The difference is that when there's nothing happening in baseball, there's really NOTHING HAPPENING. Inning breaks, pitching changes, even the 30-second lull between hitters, the game isn't going on. While there are some parts of soccer games that are less exciting than others, save for injury stoppages and halftime the game is going on even during slow points. The ball is in play, players are running, etc.
Don't get me wrong, I love baseball's slow pace. I love being able to get up and get a drink or use the bathroom or flip to another game and genuinely not miss anything except commercials or Tim McCarver's blathering. But soccer isn't the same in this respect.
[quote daredevilcu]Watch it in person, especially high school and college (I think) where you're allowed more than three substitutions for the entire game, and it becomes much faster paced. Players don't have to worry as much about conserving energy for 90 minutes and they sprint almost the whole time.[/quote]
I don't think its a hard argument to make that the biggest failing in soccer is that stupid rule.
[quote DeltaOne81][quote daredevilcu]Watch it in person, especially high school and college (I think) where you're allowed more than three substitutions for the entire game, and it becomes much faster paced. Players don't have to worry as much about conserving energy for 90 minutes and they sprint almost the whole time.[/quote]
I don't think its a hard argument to make that the biggest failing in soccer is that stupid rule.[/quote]
Many a European will argue that what we play isn't the same sport b/c we don't observe that rule.
[quote Jacob '06][quote DeltaOne81][quote daredevilcu]Watch it in person, especially high school and college (I think) where you're allowed more than three substitutions for the entire game, and it becomes much faster paced. Players don't have to worry as much about conserving energy for 90 minutes and they sprint almost the whole time.[/quote]
I don't think its a hard argument to make that the biggest failing in soccer is that stupid rule.[/quote]
Many a European will argue that what we play isn't the same sport b/c we don't observe that rule.[/quote]True. Not to mention, we all follow a team that plays a brand of hockey predicated in part on wearing the opposition down - being fresh at the end while our opponents aren't is a matter of strategy. Why is that any worse of a concept in soccer?
[quote Josh '99]Why is that any worse of a concept in soccer?[/quote]
Cause the extreme level to which it is brought makes the game suck. Not saying its not a sport or anything stupid, just saying it sucks :)
So did the cheer go down tonight against Brown? Inquiring minds would like to know.
[quote metaezra]So did the cheer go down tonight against Brown? Inquiring minds would like to know.[/quote]
We tried to make it work (from sec. A) in the first period after each of the goals.... it didn't catch on at all. It makes me wonder how many undergrads use Elynah these days. We should get some quartercards out with the lyrics so that people know what's going on.
[quote imafrshmn][quote metaezra]So did the cheer go down tonight against Brown? Inquiring minds would like to know.[/quote]
We tried to make it work (from sec. A) in the first period after each of the goals.... it didn't catch on at all. It makes me wonder how many undergrads use Elynah these days. We should get some quartercards out with the lyrics so that people know what's going on.[/quote]
Or just get a block of friends to do it really loudly. At every game. It won't be instant, but things like that catch on with lots of repetition. That's how the "We're gonna beat the hell outta you..." started when the band played Gary Glitter. It was just a group of guys who did it every game. I had a friend who ran up to the balcony at Lake Placid just to get a better listen to what the hell they were saying before it ever caught on. Similar effect with the "William Tell" crowd gallop/finish.
[quote RichH][quote imafrshmn][quote metaezra]So did the cheer go down tonight against Brown? Inquiring minds would like to know.[/quote]
We tried to make it work (from sec. A) in the first period after each of the goals.... it didn't catch on at all. It makes me wonder how many undergrads use Elynah these days. We should get some quartercards out with the lyrics so that people know what's going on.[/quote]
Or just get a block of friends to do it really loudly. At every game. It won't be instant, but things like that catch on with lots of repetition. That's how the "We're gonna beat the hell outta you..." started when the band played Gary Glitter. It was just a group of guys who did it every game. I had a friend who ran up to the balcony at Lake Placid just to get a better listen to what the hell they were saying before it ever caught on. Similar effect with the "William Tell" crowd gallop/finish.[/quote].
Yeah, you're right. I guess tomorrow night we should just be very articulate and clean and do it slow the first couple times so that it does catch on.... once about 25 people have it down, it can probably spread pretty rapidly.
Exactly. Just think of a good soccer match as similar to the 3 OT loss to Wisconsin -- what goes on in between the scoring can be just as exciting and impressive as the goal(s).
[quote kfish]Exactly. Just think of a good soccer match as similar to the 3 OT loss to Wisconsin -- what goes on in between the scoring can be just as exciting and impressive as the goal(s).[/quote]
Sure, games that are low scoring can be exciting, however I still contend that soccer's problem is the lack of scoring chances. The casual watcher can easily look away, even get up for a beer and the game is still in the middle of the field. There might have been two turnovers, but neither got to a scoring chance. Yes, you can watch it intently for all the intricacies and remain interested, but the casual observer will still wonder when something is going to happen. In hockey the problem for the casual observer is not thinking nothing is happening, but not understanding the flow.
If one of the people in your group has a loud enough voice, then perhaps just before you try the cheer you simply yell out something like "hey section a, we're trying something new, follow our lead." At least then a few people around you will know it's not a one time chant and will be ready to join in.
[quote Jim Hyla][quote kfish]Exactly. Just think of a good soccer match as similar to the 3 OT loss to Wisconsin -- what goes on in between the scoring can be just as exciting and impressive as the goal(s).[/quote]
Sure, games that are low scoring can be exciting, however I still contend that soccer's problem is the lack of scoring chances. The casual watcher can easily look away, even get up for a beer and the game is still in the middle of the field. There might have been two turnovers, but neither got to a scoring chance. Yes, you can watch it intently for all the intricacies and remain interested, but the casual observer will still wonder when something is going to happen. In hockey the problem for the casual observer is not thinking nothing is happening, but not understanding the flow.[/quote]
Jim,
I mostly agree with you here, but the argument about lack of understanding of the flow is exactly what you're describing as unimportant in a soccer game. Mainly playing Devil's Advocate.
It may work a little better if we are playing against a goalie with a 2 syllable last name using his name at the beginning. So:
Ohhhh Sib-bald
Sib-bald Sib-bald Sib-bald
When you come to play at Lynah
Then we'll give your goalie hell (Go Red!)
[quote imafrshmn]It makes me wonder how many undergrads use Elynah these days.[/quote]
I think it's mostly alums, at least judging from the IP addresses. You kids on East Hill seem to be able to find better uses of your time.
Quarter cards aren't a bad idea. See if you can't print out 100 or so and distribute them to A and B during the game.
Thanks to everyone for the support, particularly those of you who found youtube clips (perfect!) and imafrshmn for his suggestion.
We're just going to keep trying. I'm not going to print out quartercards or anything, but if enough people in section A get with the program (OR THE BAND!!!!) then we'd have it down pretty fast. In fact, I'll post this right now as a new topic to get the band's attention.
Grimey, you're still on the forums?
I was in B last night and it was the first time I could clearly hear the chant and the words. Several people were looking at each other asking what the chant was. If you keep it up, I think it will catch on soon.
I think they actually screwed up the pace and melody of it, frankly. BMac--listen to the way the soccer fans do it in the video.
[quote imafrshmn][quote metaezra]So did the cheer go down tonight against Brown? Inquiring minds would like to know.[/quote]
We tried to make it work (from sec. A) in the first period after each of the goals.... it didn't catch on at all. It makes me wonder how many undergrads use Elynah these days. We should get some quartercards out with the lyrics so that people know what's going on.[/quote]
I think it might make a nice PP song. Keep up the effort.
It would be fun to play BU that way, because they use the "ole!" cheer for a pk song. Clash of the soccer chants