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General Category => Hockey => Topic started by: Craine on February 09, 2002, 10:02:19 PM

Title: Polls
Post by: Craine on February 09, 2002, 10:02:19 PM
With our 4 point weekend, and Maine losing twice, is it realistic to think we'll jump up another notch in both the USCHO and USA Today polls???

They had a bit of a lead on us (especially on the USCHO poll), but I can't see that holding up after this weekend...

Even better, IF Colorado College loses tonight (giving them 1 point this weekend against unrated Wisconsin), could we dare hope to move as high as #6.

I know we didn't beat anybody really good this weekend, but hey, 4 points is 4 points...
Title: Re: Polls
Post by: Al DeFlorio on February 09, 2002, 11:12:54 PM
As of 11:11pm, up to #8 in PWR.

Title: Re: Polls
Post by: Greg Berge on February 10, 2002, 12:13:51 AM
We'll see.  As Grady pointed out, last week Maine took 3 of 4 points from #2 UNH and moved *down*.  Polls are inherently unpredictable.

Cornell now has the #3 winning percentage in the nation.
Title: The only pole that matters....
Post by: jeh25 on February 10, 2002, 12:16:16 AM
is the one you hang your national champion banner from.

:-D

Title: Re: The only pole that matters....
Post by: Jim Hyla on February 10, 2002, 12:19:56 AM
Agree, who cares what our poll position is? We need to win at LP, get our TENTH and hopefully a good NCAA seed and be able to watch them in Worcester.

Title: Re: The only pole that matters....
Post by: jason on February 10, 2002, 01:09:35 AM
Although I agree that the polls are not particularly important, I wouldn't say they are meaningless. They are a form of recognition for the team's efforts --maybe the only one that gets widespread circulation during the regular season-- and for the much maligned ECAC I think it's good for the league to have a team residing in one of the top spots, lest its reputation suffer further. And I don't know how much it helps, but I can't imagine that it hurts recruiting to have your team show up in the national polls for 12, 13 or whatever the streak is now weeks in a row.

That said, I'd gladly forego showing up in the polls for a 10th ECAC championship. :-)
Title: Re: Polls
Post by: Greg Berge on February 10, 2002, 08:27:03 AM
> And I don't know how much it helps, but I can't imagine that it hurts recruiting to have your team show up in the national polls for 12, 13 or whatever the streak is now weeks in a row.

Monday will be the 14th straight week on USA Today -- every poll this season -- and the 13th straight on USCHO -- they finished #16 in the first poll.

And I agree that polls are a recruiting tool.  The major recruiting period is during, not after, the season, so it helps to be up there in the national polls when the coaches visit the recruits.  The higher, the better.

How the teams around us did this weekend (USCHO order):

1 Denver: WT Minnesota-Duluth
2 St. Cloud: WW Michigan Tech
3 UNH: Providence (today)
4 Michigan State: WL Notre Dame
5 Minnesota: WW at North Dakota
6 Colorado College: TW Wisconsin
7 Maine: L at BC, L at Merrimack
8 Cornell: W Princeton, W Yale
9 BU: W UMAss-Amherst, vs Northeastern (Monday)
10 Northern Michigan: LL at Western Michigan
11 Michigan: WW UNO
12 Lowell: T at Providence, T UMass-Amherst

Leading me to suspect:

1 Denver
2 St. Cloud
3 UNH
4 Minnesota
5 Michigan State
6 Colorado College

After that, who knows?  If BU wins the Beanpot, I wouldn't be surprised to see Maine and BU swap spots:

7 BU
8 Cornell
9 Maine

If BC (sic -- Northeastern) wins the Beanpot, or if the Beanpot isn't counted in the poll, then maybe Cornell will move up a slot, but they could just as easily bump Michigan way up for sweeping UNO.
Title: Polls and the Beanpot
Post by: Al DeFlorio on February 10, 2002, 09:27:26 AM
I suspect the polls will be taken before the Beanpot final is completed, so it probably will not affect this week's poll.

And it will take some miracle for BC to win the Beanpot, since they were beaten in the first round last Monday and BU is facing my wife's Northeastern Huskies for the championship. ::nut::

Title: Re: Polls
Post by: jtwcornell91 on February 10, 2002, 09:50:30 AM
Well, I can guarantee that BC will not win the Beanpot this year, since the final is BU vs Northeastern.  ;-)

Note, FWIW, Cornell is #16 in KRACH and #14 in KPWR.  (The #14 and #15 teams in KRACH have losing records.)

Incidentally, Bemidji State has played a tougher schedule (as measured by both KRACH and RPI) than anyone in the ECAC.

Title: Re: Polls
Post by: jy3 on February 10, 2002, 10:38:59 AM
in case u guys want to...u can cast ur own votes at the uscho site. i just made the thread. vote for ur own top 12 ;-)
 ::help::

Title: Re: Polls
Post by: Greg Berge on February 10, 2002, 05:59:00 PM
> Well, I can guarantee that BC will not win the Beanpot this year, since the final is BU vs Northeastern.

I know.  I was tired.  ;-)
Title: Re: Polls
Post by: Beeeej on February 11, 2002, 04:23:37 PM
Is it just me, or are the polls being released later and later as the season goes on, just to frustrate the hell out of us? ::help::

Beeeej
Title: Re: Polls
Post by: AdamGanderson on February 11, 2002, 04:26:11 PM
Not "Us" Beej, just you.  Actually the're all out to get you.  Look out the window.  You think that black helicopter is just a coincidence?  

And that shirt doesn't look good on you.

"Quis custodet ipsos custodes?"   [spelling aproximate]

Title: Re: Polls
Post by: ugarte on February 11, 2002, 05:09:53 PM
::rolleyes:: If you were
Quotespelling aproximate
you would have written "approximate", but, appropriately enough, you were close. ;-)

And I have no idea why you are writing about custard.
Title: Re: Polls
Post by: Greg Berge on February 11, 2002, 07:26:33 PM
7th, with one first place vote, in each poll:

http://www.spiritone.com/~kepler/2002/2002_polls.html
Title: Re: Polls
Post by: jeh25 on February 11, 2002, 08:07:54 PM
larv-net is watching

Title: 2/18 Polls
Post by: AdamGanderson on February 18, 2002, 04:50:43 PM
This is about the time of day Beej usually gripes that the polls come out later and later each week just to annoy him....


"Just because you're not paranoid doesn't mean they're not out to get you..."
Title: Re: Polls
Post by: Adam 04 on February 18, 2002, 04:56:50 PM
Title: Re: Polls
Post by: AdamGanderson on February 18, 2002, 05:22:53 PM
Well said.  : )

Title: Re: Polls
Post by: Adam 04 on February 18, 2002, 06:53:05 PM
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