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Title: Cornell 2 vs. Princeton 3 (Final)
Post by: sah67 on November 02, 2007, 06:40:41 PM
Pri 1 - Jubinville (Wilson, Macintyre - 13:31, 1st period)

Cor 1 - Scott (Unassisted - 7:05, 2nd period)
Pri 2 - Jubinville (Wilson, Macintyre - PPG, 12:37, 2nd period)

Cor 2 - Barlow (Greening, Nash - 11:32, 3rd period)
Pri 3 - Macintyre (Jubinville - 16:18, 3rd period)
Title: Re: Cornell vs. Princeton pre-game
Post by: MB on November 02, 2007, 06:41:48 PM
Good to know it's not just happening to me.
Title: Re: Cornell vs. Princeton pre-game
Post by: nr53 on November 02, 2007, 06:44:10 PM
video just started working for me, kinda choppy though
Title: Re: Cornell vs. Princeton pre-game
Post by: sah67 on November 02, 2007, 06:45:11 PM
[quote MB]Good to know it's not just happening to me.[/quote]

That's better.  Audio and video working fine now at 6:45PM.
Title: Re: Cornell vs. Princeton pre-game
Post by: MB on November 02, 2007, 06:46:11 PM
Yeah, same.  It's coming through in 5-10 second bits.
Title: Re: Cornell vs. Princeton pre-game
Post by: MB on November 02, 2007, 06:48:13 PM
Oh hey, you're in the cube next to me.
Title: Re: Cornell vs. Princeton pre-game
Post by: Beeeej on November 02, 2007, 06:48:24 PM
Audio dropped out about a minute ago, but video still coming in fine.
Title: Re: Cornell vs. Princeton pre-game
Post by: sah67 on November 02, 2007, 06:48:28 PM
Ugh...yup.  Terrible delay.
Title: Re: Cornell vs. Princeton pre-game - video okay, audio sucks
Post by: billhoward on November 02, 2007, 06:50:02 PM
Nice that Cornell's fees are non-renewing.

Site came up quickly on Media Player 10. Video fine. Audio comes and goes ... but then you notice audio glitches more than video glitches (eg momentary freezes).

Even if the quality still leaves much to be desired, at least the tenor is: Thanks for signing up, friend. Here are some things to know. Here are some things that might go wrong. Here's how you may be able to fix them.
Title: Re: Cornell vs. Princeton pre-game - video okay, audio sucks
Post by: Beeeej on November 02, 2007, 06:52:16 PM
And tech support got back to me within minutes about the original video problems - now let's see if they can fix the audio.  I'm really only getting a total of about 2 seconds of audio every minute.
Title: Re: Cornell vs. Princeton pre-game
Post by: Al DeFlorio on November 02, 2007, 06:53:43 PM
Audio quality sucks...in addition to the choppiness.
Title: Re: Cornell vs. Princeton pre-game - lights on?
Post by: billhoward on November 02, 2007, 06:54:33 PM
6:54 pm - the image is pretty dark. Are all the lights on? With a cheap camcorder or digital camera (costly ones too) they see a lot of white ice and figure it's neutral gray on average, darkening the overall image.
Title: Re: Cornell vs. Princeton pre-game - video okay, audio sucks
Post by: Cornell95 on November 02, 2007, 06:55:08 PM
also nice to not be locked into Windows
the FAQ only speaks to Windows/Mac... but the feed came right up on my Ubuntu Linux box using the default Totem plugin (which probably isnt the best but is working for now)
Title: Re: Cornell vs. Princeton pre-game
Post by: calgARI '07 on November 02, 2007, 06:56:43 PM
Just spent 35 bucks on this redcast thing and it sucks as many of you are indicating.
Title: Re: Cornell vs. Princeton pre-game
Post by: Jacob '06 on November 02, 2007, 06:57:11 PM
Hello Jacob,

 

Sorry for the inconvenience. But it seems to be streaming problems at
Cornell end.

 

ICS Tech Support

Thats the response I got after e-mailing about the problems.
Title: Re: Cornell vs. Princeton pre-game
Post by: DisplacedCornellian on November 02, 2007, 06:57:44 PM
choppiness + weird sound = not fun
Title: Re: Cornell vs. Princeton pre-game - Big Red kazoo band
Post by: billhoward on November 02, 2007, 06:58:30 PM
Something that sounds vaguely like "Davey" is playing ... played by helium-sucking Martians using kazoos. Sheesh, the audio is execrable.
Title: Re: Cornell vs. Princeton pre-game - Big Red kazoo band
Post by: Beeeej on November 02, 2007, 06:58:44 PM
At least you have audio.
Title: Re: Cornell vs. Princeton pre-game - Big Red kazoo band
Post by: Jacob '06 on November 02, 2007, 06:59:08 PM
Someone else do a complaint about the sound, they tend to respond pretty quickly so hopefully it'll get fixed.
Title: Re: Cornell vs. Princeton pre-game
Post by: Al DeFlorio on November 02, 2007, 06:59:15 PM
[quote DisplacedCornellian]choppiness + weird sound = not fun[/quote]
But par for the course, sadly.
Title: Re: Cornell vs. Princeton pre-game - Big Red kazoo band
Post by: Beeeej on November 02, 2007, 07:00:32 PM
I did.  They responded the same way; I replied, asking if someone at the Cornell end had been notified of the problem and if anybody is working on it.
Title: Re: Cornell vs. Princeton pre-game - national anthem
Post by: billhoward on November 02, 2007, 07:01:22 PM
I hear the national anthem. Not sure which one.
Title: Re: Cornell vs. Princeton pre-game
Post by: lhayes on November 02, 2007, 07:01:23 PM
Let's hope the choppy feed is inversely proportional to the Big Red effort on ice tonight.  :-}
Title: Re: Cornell vs. Princeton pre-game
Post by: DisplacedCornellian on November 02, 2007, 07:01:39 PM
are others having trouble with the video, too?  I know the sound is crappy, but my video works in 2 second bursts.
Title: Re: Cornell vs. Princeton pre-game - national anthem
Post by: Jacob '06 on November 02, 2007, 07:01:58 PM
And I've lost everything. Stuck on buffering.
Title: Re: Cornell vs. Princeton pre-game
Post by: billhoward on November 02, 2007, 07:02:15 PM
[quote lhayes]Let's hope the choppy feed is inversely proportional to the Big Red effort on ice tonight.  :-}[/quote]

You're saying: 9-0, Big Red?
Title: Re: Cornell vs. Princeton pre-game
Post by: Jacob '06 on November 02, 2007, 07:02:48 PM
Ooooh, it just came back and its been running for at least 30 seconds without a break!
Title: Re: Cornell vs. Princeton pre-game - live scoreboard
Post by: billhoward on November 02, 2007, 07:03:57 PM
Totally ohymgawd - there's a scoreboard overlay on the live video feed. What's next - high-def?
Title: Re: Cornell vs. Princeton pre-game - live scoreboard
Post by: Beeeej on November 02, 2007, 07:05:00 PM
Sound now on, though not great - video running smoothly.
Title: Re: Cornell vs. Princeton pre-game - live scoreboard
Post by: Rosey on November 02, 2007, 07:05:38 PM
FWIW, I got very poor performance (5-10 seconds, followed by pause, followed by 5-10 seconds, etc.) with VLC under Linux.  In Windows Media Player 11, the video and audio are both fine.  YMMV.

Kyle
Title: Re: Cornell vs. Princeton pre-game - live scoreboard
Post by: Rosey on November 02, 2007, 07:06:39 PM
Video quality *much* better and clearer than either I2sports or CSTV.  And yes, the overlay is a nice touch.

Kyle
Title: Re: Cornell vs. Princeton pre-game - live scoreboard
Post by: Beeeej on November 02, 2007, 07:07:12 PM
It doesn't have a PP countdown timer, though.
Title: Re: Cornell vs. Princeton pre-game
Post by: Avash on November 02, 2007, 07:08:49 PM
Joe Devin out of the lineup tonight; Tyler Roeszler in
Title: Re: Cornell vs. Princeton pre-game
Post by: Beeeej on November 02, 2007, 07:09:37 PM
Nobody starting the game thread...?
Title: Re: Cornell vs. Princeton pre-game - live scoreboard
Post by: sah67 on November 02, 2007, 07:09:40 PM
[quote Beeeej]It doesn't have a PP countdown timer, though.[/quote]

No game time either.
Title: Re: Cornell vs. Princeton pre-game - live scoreboard
Post by: Rosey on November 02, 2007, 07:10:06 PM
[quote Beeeej]It doesn't have a PP countdown timer, though.[/quote]
No it doesn't, your majesty. ::demented::

Kyle
Title: Re: Cornell vs. Princeton pre-game
Post by: Rosey on November 02, 2007, 07:10:47 PM
Video is getting really choppy now.

Kyle
Title: Re: Cornell vs. Princeton pre-game
Post by: sah67 on November 02, 2007, 07:11:37 PM
Powerplay already looking better than RIT.  They're actually completing passes...imagine that!
Title: Re: Cornell vs. Princeton pre-game
Post by: Jacob '06 on November 02, 2007, 07:12:10 PM
Anyone else getting 1 frame every 10 seconds?
Title: Re: Cornell vs. Princeton pre-game
Post by: sah67 on November 02, 2007, 07:13:30 PM
Princeton scores...Jubinville.
Title: Re: Cornell vs. Princeton pre-game
Post by: Rosey on November 02, 2007, 07:13:50 PM
Video is intermittently good and bad.

Pton sucks.

Kyle
Title: Re: Cornell vs. Princeton pre-game
Post by: billhoward on November 02, 2007, 07:14:25 PM
[quote Jacob '06]Anyone else getting 1 frame every 10 seconds?[/quote]

Duke lacrosse team?
Title: Re: Cornell 0 vs. Princeton 1 (1st period)
Post by: calgARI '07 on November 02, 2007, 07:14:30 PM
Pretty high quality defensive zone coverage there.
Title: Re: Cornell 0 vs. Princeton 1 (1st period)
Post by: Beeeej on November 02, 2007, 07:14:42 PM
They claim to be working on the audio quality (tinniness, etc.).
Title: Re: Cornell 0 vs. Princeton 1 (1st period)
Post by: Jacob '06 on November 02, 2007, 07:16:19 PM
They look 1 step off on all their checks.
Title: Re: Cornell 0 vs. Princeton 1 (1st period)
Post by: sah67 on November 02, 2007, 07:16:59 PM
"Et's o ed!" - gotta keep up on these new cheers
Title: Re: Cornell vs. Princeton pre-game - live scoreboard
Post by: Beeeej on November 02, 2007, 07:17:16 PM
[quote krose][quote Beeeej]It doesn't have a PP countdown timer, though.[/quote]
No it doesn't, your majesty. ::demented::

Kyle[/quote]

Work on that, will you, please?

And peel me some grapes.
Title: Re: Cornell 0 vs. Princeton 1 (1st period)
Post by: sah67 on November 02, 2007, 07:20:04 PM
Krueger looks to be skating well, good puck handling.
Title: Need wider camera angle
Post by: billhoward on November 02, 2007, 07:20:37 PM
Some stuff happens just off range of the camera. Cornell camera guy would benefit from a widescreen camera. 16:9 is standard. 32:9 may be what we need.
Title: Re: Cornell 0 vs. Princeton 1 (1st period)
Post by: sah67 on November 02, 2007, 07:21:38 PM
And just when it was fine for 10 minutes, the video starts to cut out again.  I guess the "technician" went on break?
Title: Re: Cornell 0 vs. Princeton 1 (1st period)
Post by: Jacob '06 on November 02, 2007, 07:22:35 PM
[quote sah67]And just when it was fine for 10 minutes, the video starts to cut out again.  I guess the "technician" went on break?[/quote]
Try stopping and restarting your video, fixed it for me earlier and i'm going fine now.
Title: Re: Cornell 0 vs. Princeton 1 (1st period)
Post by: Jacob '06 on November 02, 2007, 07:23:20 PM
How did Scali not score that?
Title: Re: Cornell 0 vs. Princeton 1 (1st period)
Post by: calgARI '07 on November 02, 2007, 07:23:48 PM
Wow, they look terrible.
Title: Re: Cornell vs. Princeton pre-game
Post by: Rosey on November 02, 2007, 07:23:54 PM
Video's been pretty good for me.  I've had maybe 2 minutes of bad video over the 24 I've been watching.  They're already doing better than CSTV at that rate.

Kyle
Title: Re: Cornell 0 vs. Princeton 1 (1st period)
Post by: sah67 on November 02, 2007, 07:27:25 PM
Seminoff comes very close short-handed...good effort
Title: Re: Cornell 0 vs. Princeton 1 (1st period)
Post by: sah67 on November 02, 2007, 07:29:35 PM
Another scramble in front of the net with no result.
Title: Re: Cornell 0 vs. Princeton 1 (1st period)
Post by: Jacob '06 on November 02, 2007, 07:29:37 PM
Real nice shift by Sawada there.
Title: 4 great chances, no goals
Post by: billhoward on November 02, 2007, 07:30:22 PM
Four nice opportunities in front of the Princeton net first 18 minutes and ... nada.
Title: Re: Cornell 0 vs. Princeton 1 (1st period)
Post by: DisplacedCornellian on November 02, 2007, 07:35:07 PM
Some good hustle out there, but it just doesn't look like they're on the same page yet.
Title: Re: Cornell 0 vs. Princeton 1 (1st period)
Post by: calgARI '07 on November 02, 2007, 07:35:27 PM
Got better towards the end but this team is going to struggle badly to score goals.
Title: Game thread take-over?
Post by: sah67 on November 02, 2007, 07:41:19 PM
Someone want to take over updating the game thread?  I've gotta run to meeting I already delayed so I could watch the first period...smart idea that was.
Title: Re: Game thread take-over?
Post by: Beeeej on November 02, 2007, 07:43:05 PM
I guess since I have the power to edit your posts, I will.
Title: Re: Cornell 0 vs. Princeton 1 (1st period)
Post by: Rosey on November 02, 2007, 07:44:20 PM
When did the skating bear reappear?  Woohoo!
Title: Re: Game thread take-over?
Post by: sah67 on November 02, 2007, 07:44:44 PM
Thanks...I assumed you were too busy being fed grapes ;)
Title: Re: Cornell 0 vs. Princeton 1 (1st period)
Post by: Beeeej on November 02, 2007, 07:45:15 PM
[quote krose]When did the skating bear reappear?  Woohoo![/quote]

By edict of his highness.

And you doubted me!  :-D
Title: Re: Cornell 0 vs. Princeton 1 (1st intermission)
Post by: Jacob '06 on November 02, 2007, 07:45:50 PM
Did the skating bear just poison Princeton's water bottles?
Title: Re: Cornell 0 vs. Princeton 1 (1st period)
Post by: Lauren '06 on November 02, 2007, 07:51:18 PM
You're all doing better than I am on the video front, mine won't even come up.
Title: Re: Cornell 0 vs. Princeton 1 (1st period)
Post by: Rosey on November 02, 2007, 07:51:57 PM
[quote Beeeej][quote krose]When did the skating bear reappear?  Woohoo![/quote]

By edict of his highness.[/quote]

Highness is for a prince.  You want either "your grace" or "your majesty". ::rolleyes::

Kyle
Title: Re: Cornell 0 vs. Princeton 1 (2nd Period)
Post by: Jacob '06 on November 02, 2007, 07:52:41 PM
We gotta stop taking penalties. Did he say that North Dakota is coming to Lynah at the end of that intermission?
Title: Re: Cornell 0 vs. Princeton 1 (1st period)
Post by: Rosey on November 02, 2007, 07:53:26 PM
[quote Section A Banshee]mine won't even come up.[/quote]
I wouldn't put that in your dating profile.

Kyle
Title: Re: Cornell 0 vs. Princeton 1 (1st period)
Post by: Beeeej on November 02, 2007, 07:55:06 PM
Someone at Redcast not paying attention; PP slug still up after penalty expired.
Title: Re: Cornell 0 vs. Princeton 1 (2nd Period)
Post by: calgARI '07 on November 02, 2007, 07:57:29 PM
They look good to start the period.
Title: Re: Cornell 0 vs. Princeton 1 (2nd Period)
Post by: DisplacedCornellian on November 02, 2007, 07:59:01 PM
nices moves by topher
Title: Re: Cornell 0 vs. Princeton 1 (1st period)
Post by: Rosey on November 02, 2007, 07:59:47 PM
Those are the kinds of goals you *need* to get, but not the kinds of goals you *want* to get.  You want goals that you can set up and predict.  This goal is fortunate, but does not positively or negatively affect my impression of the team.

Kyle
Title: Cornell 1 vs. Princeton 1 (good news, bad news)
Post by: billhoward on November 02, 2007, 08:00:14 PM
Awesome takeaway by Topher to tie the score. Bad news: The Cornell Goal graphic with the bear mascot every time we score.

Replay, please, Cornell.
Title: Re: Cornell 0 vs. Princeton 1 (1st period)
Post by: billhoward on November 02, 2007, 08:03:40 PM
[quote krose]Those are the kinds of goals you *need* to get, but not the kinds of goals you *want* to get.  You want goals that you can set up and predict.  This goal is fortunate, but does not positively or negatively affect my impression of the team.

Kyle[/quote]

Don't hog the J. Pass it along. Glaucoma treatment, right?
Title: Re: Cornell 0 vs. Princeton 1 (1st period)
Post by: Rosey on November 02, 2007, 08:08:59 PM
[quote billhoward][quote krose]Those are the kinds of goals you *need* to get, but not the kinds of goals you *want* to get.  You want goals that you can set up and predict.  This goal is fortunate, but does not positively or negatively affect my impression of the team.

Kyle[/quote]

Don't hog the J. Pass it along. Glaucoma treatment, right?[/quote]
My point, Mr. Howard, is that you don't want to pass up those opportunities... but they don't come along often, so you can't depend on them.  You need to work to score consistently; you're not always going to have gifts thrown at you.

Kyle
Title: Re: Cornell 0 vs. Princeton 1 (1st period)
Post by: billhoward on November 02, 2007, 08:14:31 PM
Second pass post was clear. You're right.
Title: Re: Cornell 1 vs. Princeton 2 (2nd Period)
Post by: DisplacedCornellian on November 02, 2007, 08:20:57 PM
Davenport doesn't look terribly comfortable handling the puck...
Title: Internet feed problem explained
Post by: billhoward on November 02, 2007, 08:22:02 PM
Audio, video much better in the second period. Could it be this is an analog feed? If it were, that would explain everything. Maybe the vacuum tubes take 40 minutes to warm up. Maybe there was moisture in the repeater/amplifiers.

Crappy as the feed was, it's still pretty magical to be sitting hundreds of miles away and still able to stay in touch. God bless this Internet thing.
Title: Re: Cornell 0 vs. Princeton 1 (1st period)
Post by: Lauren '06 on November 02, 2007, 08:36:15 PM
Got it the video working through some step-skipping wizardry.  Man, player interviews make me uncomfortable.

[quote billhoward]Crappy as the feed was, it's still pretty magical to be sitting hundreds of miles away and still able to stay in touch. God bless this Internet thing.[/quote]
And you can drink while the team is losing instead of having to wait for the final score!

[quote krose][quote Section A Banshee]mine won't even come up.[/quote]
I wouldn't put that in your dating profile.[/quote]
Seeing as how I'm a female, the opposite result wouldn't be appropriate either.
Title: Re: Cornell 0 vs. Princeton 1 (1st period)
Post by: Rosey on November 02, 2007, 08:38:15 PM
[quote Section A Banshee]
[quote krose][quote Section A Banshee]mine won't even come up.[/quote]
I wouldn't put that in your dating profile.[/quote]
Seeing as how I'm a female, the opposite result wouldn't be appropriate either.[/quote]
Wow.  All this time I thought you were a dude.  I'm sorry. :-)

Kyle
Title: Re: Cornell 0 vs. Princeton 1 (1st period)
Post by: Rosey on November 02, 2007, 08:53:26 PM
Cornell ties it!
Title: Re: Cornell 1 vs. Princeton 2 (3rd Period)
Post by: Jacob '06 on November 02, 2007, 08:53:49 PM
Now stop taking penalties!
Title: Re: Cornell 1 vs. Princeton 2 (3rd Period)
Post by: Lauren '06 on November 02, 2007, 08:55:39 PM
[quote Jacob '06]Now stop taking penalties![/quote]
Agree, but I have to say, that last penalty kill was pretty refreshing.
Title: Re: Cornell 1 vs. Princeton 2 (3rd Period)
Post by: scoop85 on November 02, 2007, 08:55:58 PM
Outstanding play by Nash to set up the goal.  Maybe this is the jump start we needed.
Title: Re: Cornell 0 vs. Princeton 1 (1st period)
Post by: Al DeFlorio on November 02, 2007, 08:56:34 PM
Nice shift by Nash.  He actually held onto the puck while allowing time for something to develop.  Radical concept.
Title: Re: Cornell 1 vs. Princeton 2 (3rd Period)
Post by: calgARI '07 on November 02, 2007, 08:56:59 PM
Scali has absolutely gotta cash in on those.  Two blown chances tonight for him.
Title: Re: Cornell 2 vs. Princeton 2 (3rd Period)
Post by: DisplacedCornellian on November 02, 2007, 09:00:03 PM
bleh
Title: Re: Cornell 2 vs. Princeton 2 (3rd Period)
Post by: calgARI '07 on November 02, 2007, 09:00:14 PM
Extremely soft goal.  Scali and Davenport the goats tonight.
Title: Re: Cornell 2 vs. Princeton 2 (3rd Period)
Post by: scoop85 on November 02, 2007, 09:00:38 PM
Brutal goal off of a bad center ice giveaway ... looks a little too reminiscent of 06-07.
Title: Re: Cornell 2 vs. Princeton 3 (3rd Period)
Post by: calgARI '07 on November 02, 2007, 09:08:32 PM
Gonna be a very very long year for this team.
Title: Re: Cornell 2 vs. Princeton 3 (3rd Period)
Post by: scoop85 on November 02, 2007, 09:12:01 PM
[quote calgARI '07]Gonna be a very very long year for this team.[/quote]

Disappointing loss, of course.  But it's too early to be this pessimistic.  

It's been a long time since I recall our fan base beeing so down in the dumps.
Title: Re: Cornell 2 vs. Princeton 3 (3rd Period)
Post by: Beeeej on November 02, 2007, 09:20:33 PM
[quote scoop85][quote calgARI '07]Gonna be a very very long year for this team.[/quote]

Disappointing loss, of course.  But it's too early to be this pessimistic.[/quote]

Even someone as knowledgeable as Ari can get spoiled, and I agree it's a bit early to dismiss the season.  But it was Princeton, and we were at home.

On the other hand, the last time we opened the season with two losses (2000-01), they were to Sacred Heart and Union, neither one any better than Princeton is now - and we still managed to get to the ECAC finals that year.  I saw a fair number of good things going on tonight, flashes of potential.  The next few games will be very telling, but I liked their effort.
Title: Re: Cornell 2 vs. Princeton 3 (3rd Period)
Post by: calgARI '07 on November 02, 2007, 09:28:30 PM
[quote Beeeej]The next few games will be very telling, but I liked their effort.[/quote]

I too liked their effort.  The team just doesn't have the talent IMO.  I like that this group seems to be more blue collar and hard working compared to last year but there is no depth and very little top end talent.  It'll be an easier team to cheer for than last season but I think there will be less for which to cheer.
Title: Re: Cornell 2 vs. Princeton 3 (3rd Period)
Post by: scoop85 on November 02, 2007, 09:29:57 PM
[quote Beeeej][quote scoop85][quote calgARI '07]Gonna be a very very long year for this team.[/quote]

Disappointing loss, of course.  But it's too early to be this pessimistic.[/quote]

Even someone as knowledgeable as Ari can get spoiled, and I agree it's a bit early to dismiss the season.  But it was Princeton, and we were at home.

On the other hand, the last time we opened the season with two losses (2000-01), they were to Sacred Heart and Union, neither one any better than Princeton is now - and we still managed to get to the ECAC finals that year.  I saw a fair number of good things going on tonight, flashes of potential.  The next few games will be very telling, but I liked their effort.[/quote]

That's really my point.  If we were truly outplayed I would have real concern, but it's apparent we have some talent on this team.  If Scali puts in the puck in the third period (I don't know how he didn't score on the play), we're probably talking about a gritty comeback win.

Talk to me after ten games; then we can have a real sense of what we're looking at.  Sure we'd love to be 2-0, but lets see what type of resilliency this team has.
Title: Re: Cornell 0 vs. Princeton 1 (1st period)
Post by: Townie on November 02, 2007, 09:33:29 PM
[quote Al DeFlorio]Nice shift by Nash.  He actually held onto the puck while allowing time for something to develop.  Radical concept.[/quote]

He definitely showed some poise and hockey sense tonight.
Title: Re: Cornell 2 vs. Princeton 3 (Final)
Post by: imafrshmn on November 02, 2007, 09:35:23 PM
Disappointing loss.  The fluke 3rd goal really hurt, and Davenport didn't look very comfortable tonight.  Refs didn't call holding, and there was plenty of it.  We didn't get enough skaters in the slot during the best opportunities.  Our PP was so-so.  I'd like to see better puck movement.  Riley Nash has shown good creativity on offense and will be fun to watch.  Ray Sawada needs to take the puck to the net more.  Tomorrow night, it will be crucial for us to get on the board early.  LGR
Title: Re: Cornell 2 vs. Princeton 3 (Final)
Post by: Townie on November 02, 2007, 09:44:44 PM
[quote imafrshmn]Disappointing loss.  The fluke 3rd goal really hurt, and Davenport didn't look very comfortable tonight.[/quote]

I'm not sure I'd call that a fluke.  It was a low short-side shot from about the top of the right face-off circle with a defensman covering.  I don't think Troy was screened, and he had time to see the play develop.  I think he wasn't positioned correctly.  Otherwise, I thought his positioning was good tonight, and he made some nice saves as a result.
Title: Re: Cornell 0 vs. Princeton 1 (1st period)
Post by: calgARI '07 on November 02, 2007, 09:45:41 PM
[quote Townie][quote Al DeFlorio]Nice shift by Nash.  He actually held onto the puck while allowing time for something to develop.  Radical concept.[/quote]

He definitely showed some poise and hockey sense tonight.[/quote]

I also thought Nash was good tonight - definitely Cornell's best offensive player tonight.  Thinks the game at another level.  He'll start to get some points when the guys on the ice with him figure out what he's doing.
Title: Re: Cornell 2 vs. Princeton 3 (3rd Period)
Post by: calgARI '07 on November 02, 2007, 09:50:32 PM
[quote scoop85]

That's really my point.  If we were truly outplayed I would have real concern, but it's apparent we have some talent on this team.  If Scali puts in the puck in the third period (I don't know how he didn't score on the play), we're probably talking about a gritty comeback win.

Talk to me after ten games; then we can have a real sense of what we're looking at.  Sure we'd love to be 2-0, but lets see what type of resilliency this team has.[/quote]

The game was pretty even with Cornell getting the edge in chances.  The issue is that they don't have the talent or they would have generated more chances and converted on more of the ones they had.  Guys like Milo and Romano would have really changed things around for this team but instead, there are guys in scoring roles who are not suited for it.  There is an average amount of talent on this team relative to the ECAC.  I think they will show resiliency, but that doesn't make up for the fact that talent really isn't there at any position.
Title: Re: Cornell 2 vs. Princeton 3 (3rd Period)
Post by: Scersk '97 on November 02, 2007, 11:20:08 PM
[quote calgARI '07]
The issue is that they don't have the talent or they would have generated more chances and converted on more of the ones they had.  Guys like Milo and Romano would have really changed things around for this team but instead, there are guys in scoring roles who are not suited for it.  There is an average amount of talent on this team relative to the ECAC.  I think they will show resiliency, but that doesn't make up for the fact that talent really isn't there at any position.[/quote]

Bah.  This team has oodles more talent at forward and defense than the championship teams of '96 and '97.  Welcome to what it's like when a Cornell team doesn't have dominant goaltending.  It happened last year, it happened in '99 and '00, and it happened from '93 to '95.

Hopefully Scrivens steps it up this year and becomes an Elliott figure, since he didn't really show much until his sophomore season either, even though he clearly had the natural capabilities.  We need that:  Davenport, to my eyes, continues to be unimpressive.  Next year Garman comes in, and he's gotten good reviews, and I see Davenport playing a Skazyk role...

If Scrivens steps it up, this team is going to be a lot like '01, and we all know what happened in '02 and '03.  I anticipate big things in the next two years.
Title: Re: Cornell 2 vs. Princeton 3 (3rd Period)
Post by: Beeeej on November 02, 2007, 11:32:25 PM
[quote Scersk '97]If Scrivens steps it up, this team is going to be a lot like '01...[/quote]

...yup, that's the last Cornell team that opened with two Ls against perennially weak teams.
Title: Re: Cornell 2 vs. Princeton 3 (3rd Period)
Post by: Scersk '97 on November 03, 2007, 12:28:01 AM
[quote Beeeej][quote Scersk '97]If Scrivens steps it up, this team is going to be a lot like '01...[/quote]

...yup, that's the last Cornell team that opened with two Ls against perennially weak teams.[/quote]

Exactly.  There are other patterns at work.  '01 was a young team:  5 workman-like seniors, some better juniors, very promising sophomores, and one spectacular freshman.  With all that, they couldn't seem to figure out how to score goals, but they did, eventually, figure out how to keep pucks out of the net.  They put together a nice run, somehow squeaked out a fourth seed, and almost won themselves a championship.  St. Lawrence was one year removed from their Frozen Four (tm) run and was just too much.

I think this year's freshmen are more impressive than Vesce's class, that the sophomores are a bit less impressive (with Nash) than the class of '03 (what a class!), that the juniors are better than the class of '02, and that the seniors are better than the class of '01.  I think this year's team will either be a replay of '01 or '02, but it all comes down to goaltending and the power play.  Some members of this team also need to start playing with the fire we used to see from, say, the Abbotts, Cooney, and Hornby.

In the end, I'm expecting Clarkson to be too much this year, but any Clarkson fan would tell you never to bet against us in the tournament.