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Title: Preseason USCHO poll - Cornell 18th
Post by: BillCharlton on October 01, 2007, 08:18:31 PM
October 1, 2007

 Team (First Place Votes) Record Points Last Poll
1 North Dakota (13) 24-14-5 545 6
2 Boston College ( 3) 29-12-1 519 4
3 Michigan State (11) 26-13-3 513 10
4 Miami ( 1) 24-14-4 471 13
5 Minnesota ( 1) 31-10-3 470 2
6 New Hampshire  26-11-2 454 5
7 Clarkson  25- 9-5 396 3
8 Notre Dame  32- 7-3 358 1
9 Boston University  20-10-9 332 9
10 Michigan  26-14-1 296 8
11 Colorado College  18-17-4 277 20
12 Maine  23-15-2 234 14
13 Denver  21-15-4 232 15
14 Quinnipiac  21-14-5 196 16
15 Wisconsin  19-18-4 181 17
16 St. Lawrence  23-14-2 159 11
17 St. Cloud State  22-11-7 90 NR
18 Cornell  14-13-4 85 NR
19 Ohio State  15-17-5 51 NR
20 Vermont  18-16-5 46 NR
Others Receiving Votes: Massachusetts 45, Michigan Tech 38, RIT 18, Dartmouth 17, Nebraska-Omaha 16, Bemidji State 13, Harvard 11, Niagara 7, Air Force 6, Providence 5, Western Michigan 5, Rensselaer 2, Colgate 1, Robert Morris 1
Title: Preseason USA Today poll
Post by: ebilmes on October 01, 2007, 09:02:27 PM
We didn't receive any votes in the USA Today poll.

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/college/hockey/usatmen.htm

Clarkson also 7th
BU also 9th
Quinnipiac at 15
Four ECACH teams also received votes.
Title: Re: Preseason USCHO poll - Cornell 18th
Post by: Doug '08 on October 01, 2007, 09:27:52 PM
18 seems about right
Title: Re: Preseason USCHO poll - Cornell 18th
Post by: bernie on October 01, 2007, 11:12:57 PM
i'll take the over (better)
Title: Re: Preseason USCHO poll - Cornell 18th
Post by: Dafatone on October 02, 2007, 03:27:21 PM
Not that the usatoday poll is a big deal, or that any poll is, but we're behind RIT?  Ouch.
Title: Re: Preseason USCHO poll - Cornell 18th
Post by: French Rage on October 02, 2007, 04:39:12 PM
[quote Dafatone]Not that the usatoday poll is a big deal, or that any poll is, but we're behind RIT?  Ouch.[/quote]

Pollers feel guilty if they don't have a token AHA vote.
Title: Re: Preseason USCHO poll - Cornell 18th
Post by: ebilmes on October 09, 2007, 01:26:10 AM
Following the Cornell tradition of moving up after not playing, we get 10 votes this week and check in at 17.

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/college/hockey/usatmen.htm
Title: Re: Preseason USCHO poll - Cornell 18th
Post by: Jacob '06 on October 15, 2007, 05:12:32 PM
[quote ebilmes]Following the Cornell tradition of moving up after not playing, we get 10 votes this week and check in at 17.

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/college/hockey/usatmen.htm[/quote]

Changing it up a bit and moving down in the USCHO poll:


1 North Dakota (46) 1-0-0 977 1
2 Miami ( 3) 2-0-0 893 4
3 Minnesota 2-0-0 879 5
4 Boston College 1-1-0 757 2
5 Denver 2-0-0 676 13
6 Michigan 1-1-0 653 10
7 Clarkson 2-1-0 647 7
8 New Hampshire 0-0-0 643 6
9 Michigan State 0-1-0 628 3
10 Colorado College 0-0-0 504 11
11 Notre Dame 1-1-0 480 8
12 Ohio State 2-0-0 411 19
13 Wisconsin 1-1-0 361 15
14 Quinnipiac 0-0-0 290 14
15 St. Lawrence 2-1-0 283 16
16 St. Cloud State 1-0-1 229 17
17 Maine 0-2-0 223 12
18 Boston University 0-1-1 216 9
19 Cornell 0-0-0 136 18
20 Massachusetts 1-1-0 109 NR
Others Receiving Votes: Robert Morris 64, Colgate 53, Michigan Tech 26, Bemidji State 24, Nebraska-Omaha 24, Vermont 17, Dartmouth 16, Union 16, Minnesota-Duluth 11, RIT 11, Alaska-Anchorage 9, Western Michigan 8, Air Force 6, Rensselaer 6, Harvard 3, Northern Michigan 1
Title: Re: Preseason USCHO poll - Cornell 18th
Post by: dietlbomb on October 15, 2007, 05:27:48 PM
But what about our position in the KRACH?
Title: Re: Preseason USCHO poll - Cornell 18th
Post by: ebilmes on October 15, 2007, 05:44:11 PM
Also moved down this week in USA Today: http://www.usatoday.com/sports/college/hockey/usatmen.htm

Others receiving votes:   University of Maine, 21; St. Cloud State University, 16; Boston University, 14; Colgate University, 14; (T-20) Cornell University, 7; Robert Morris University, 7; U.S. Air Force Academy, 2; University of Minnesota Duluth, 1.

Voters didn't like Riley Nash's performance in the Red-White game.
Title: Re: Preseason USCHO poll - Cornell 18th
Post by: KeithK on October 15, 2007, 05:52:07 PM
[quote dietlbomb]But what about our position in the KRACH?[/quote]
Aw, shuddap before I Krach you upside the head. :-P
Title: Re: Preseason USCHO poll - Cornell 18th
Post by: jtwcornell91 on October 16, 2007, 04:27:23 AM
[quote dietlbomb]But what about our position in the KRACH?[/quote]

Ask a stupid question...

(http://elf.elynah.com/file.php?1,file=276)
Title: Re: Preseason USCHO poll - Cornell 18th
Post by: Jim Hyla on October 16, 2007, 07:27:23 AM
[quote jtwcornell91][quote dietlbomb]But what about our position in the KRACH?[/quote]

Ask a stupid question...
[/quote]

Thanks, I needed that.::smashfreak::
Title: Re: Preseason USCHO poll - Cornell 18th
Post by: Trotsky on October 16, 2007, 01:01:01 PM
My head asplode.
Title: Re: Preseason USCHO poll - Cornell 18th
Post by: ursusminor on October 16, 2007, 02:02:10 PM
[quote Trotsky]My head asplode.[/quote]

As did the right edge of this page.
Title: Re: Preseason USCHO poll - Cornell 18th
Post by: dietlbomb on October 16, 2007, 05:52:43 PM
[quote jtwcornell91][quote dietlbomb]But what about our position in the KRACH?[/quote]

Ask a stupid question...

[/quote]

:-P
Title: Re: Preseason USCHO poll - Cornell 18th
Post by: jtwcornell91 on October 24, 2007, 08:39:30 AM
(http://elf.elynah.com/file.php?1,file=278)
Title: Re: Preseason USCHO poll - Cornell 18th
Post by: DeltaOne81 on October 24, 2007, 09:33:03 AM
Woohoo! Top right corner!

;)
Title: Re: Preseason USCHO poll - Cornell 18th
Post by: Beeeej on October 24, 2007, 09:36:29 AM
CHN picks us 4th in their ECAC Preview:

http://www.collegehockeynews.com/news/2007/10/24_ecacpreview.php
Title: Re: Preseason USCHO poll - Cornell 18th
Post by: Trotsky on October 24, 2007, 09:48:52 AM
Back up to 18th this week: http://www.uscho.com/rankings/
Title: Re: Preseason USCHO poll - Cornell 18th
Post by: Beeeej on October 24, 2007, 10:18:13 AM
At least we sort of scored a lot of goals in the interim, this time.
Title: Re: Preseason USCHO poll - Cornell 18th
Post by: Josh '99 on October 24, 2007, 10:45:37 AM
Posts like this make me wonder why CowbellGuy won't move the menu bar back to the left.
Title: Re: Preseason USCHO poll - Cornell 18th
Post by: Avash on October 29, 2007, 03:40:12 PM
[quote Dafatone]Not that the usatoday poll is a big deal, or that any poll is, but we're behind RIT?  Ouch.[/quote]

Hmm...
Title: Re: Preseason USCHO poll - Cornell 18th
Post by: jtwcornell91 on November 01, 2007, 05:44:26 AM
It looks a little less silly now, with only Harvard not having played yet.  (Although having lost our only game gives us an awful RRWP!)

(http://elf.elynah.com/file.php?1,file=281)

In general, the end of October tends to be an interesting time for proto-KRACH, since the groups have not yet collapsed into one, but there are enough connections that they're no longer trivial.
Title: Re: Preseason USCHO poll - Cornell 18th
Post by: ursusminor on November 01, 2007, 01:02:08 PM
JTW,

One argument against having more schools playing D-I hockey is that it would make your abbrevations even harder to figure out without a list. ::help:: ;-)
Title: Re: Preseason USCHO poll - Cornell 18th
Post by: RichH on November 01, 2007, 01:08:54 PM
[quote jtwcornell91]It looks a little less silly now, with only Harvard not having played yet.[/quote]

You know, for the amount of pissing and moaning Harvard does regarding having to play a weekend of games before Mondays at the Beanpot, they sure do start playing actual games pretty late.  One would think that they could get a few games squeezed in before some schools hit 10 games played instead of making a big production of it in the Spring.
Title: Re: Preseason USCHO poll - Cornell 18th
Post by: Josh '99 on November 01, 2007, 01:23:00 PM
[quote RichH][quote jtwcornell91]It looks a little less silly now, with only Harvard not having played yet.[/quote]

You know, for the amount of pissing and moaning Harvard does regarding having to play a weekend of games before Mondays at the Beanpot, they sure do start playing actual games pretty late.  One would think that they could get a few games squeezed in before some schools hit 10 games played instead of making a big production of it in the Spring.[/quote]That's a bit of a misnomer - they don't play "a weekend of games" before Beanpot Mondays, almost always only one game.
Title: Re: Preseason USCHO poll - Cornell 18th
Post by: RichH on November 01, 2007, 02:21:41 PM
[quote Josh '99]That's a bit of a misnomer - they don't play "a weekend of games" before Beanpot Mondays, almost always only one game.[/quote]

Well, that's my point.  This arrangement is the result the league has come up with to placate H after all the moaning they did when they did play 2 games prior to the Beanpot Mondays.  They now play one game the weekend prior to each Beanpot game and have moved the opposite traveling partner to a weird weekday game.  This year's example: Harvard plays at Yale on Wed. 11/28 and at RPI on Tues. 12/4 to accomodate the singlet pre-Beanpot weekend.

How fair is it to ask Yale and RPI to basically lose a weekend game and the revenue associated with a weekend date vs. a weekday date?  I don't know why Harvard isn't playing their traveling partner (Dartmouth) once on both Beanpot weekends, if it's a requirement to have two single-game weekends.  As it stands now, they could've easily had the Brown-Yale roadtrip in late October, move the 12/1 and 1/26 games with Dartmouth to the vacated beanpot weekends, which leaves either week free for Union-RPI and a free weekend to take on a NC opponent.

Obviously, there are other dominoes that fall in terms of NC scheduling with all the affected teams, but if you set the ECAC schedule first and then coaches call each other filling in slots, I'm sure you could easily accomodate this league schedule that actually makes sense and maximizes revenues and attendance.
Title: Re: Preseason USCHO poll - Cornell 18th
Post by: jtwcornell91 on November 03, 2007, 05:36:38 AM
Okay, now it's just depressing:
(http://elf.elynah.com/file.php?1,file=282)