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Event Info: Saturday, November 24, 8:00pm @ MSG
Ticket Prices: $15-$49

On Sale from Madison Square Garden Box Office (http://www.thegarden.com/boxoffice.jsp) starting at 9am on Monday, 4/2!

QuoteCornell vs. Boston

This game gives us a great chance to beat BC, BU, Northeastern, and Sucks at once!!! Tremendous pairwise effects

Does "GS" mean they're only starting Group Sales on Monday?

So, do you think that Cornell will have a block of tickets that they'll sell at the ticket office, or do you think everyone will just have to purchase them through MSG?  Does anyone know how this will work?

[quote ebilmes]

QuoteCornell vs. Boston

This game gives us a great chance to beat BC, BU, Northeastern, and Sucks at once!!! Tremendous pairwise effects[/quote]Nope, the Bruins. They aren't even a TUC.

[quote ugarte][quote ebilmes]

QuoteCornell vs. Boston

This game gives us a great chance to beat BC, BU, Northeastern, and Sucks at once!!! Tremendous pairwise effects[/quote]Nope, the Bruins. They aren't even a TUC.[/quote]On the bright side, a win over the Bruins is pretty likely.

The link on the MSG page doesn't seem to be working. Also, the Ticketmaster phone system doesn't recognize this as an event and I wasn't able to talk to anyone yet. :-/ Anyone else have any luck?

[quote klo25]The link on the MSG page doesn't seem to be working. Also, the Ticketmaster phone system doesn't recognize this as an event and I wasn't able to talk to anyone yet. :-/ Anyone else have any luck?[/quote]

Better hurry up! I'm sure all 18,200 hockey seats at MSG will be sold out in a matter of hours!

MSG Box office confirmed that BU called last Friday and cancelled the onsale for today. I was very pissed and left a message with marketing at MSG because they hadn't yet deleted the April 2 onsale from thegarden.com. Here's an MSG box office number to call to get further info: 212-465-6044. See some of you in St. Louis!

Craig

From today's Sun ... Cornell's offical announcement is expected next week ...

http://www.cornelldailysun.com/node/22557

http://sports.yahoo.com/ncaah/news?slug=uwire-cornelltoplaybuatmsg&prov=uwire&type=lgns

was it just me, or was there a lot of talk about the ECACHL before there was an ECACHL...

[quote Giffy]was it just me, or was there a lot of talk about the ECACHL before there was an ECACHL...[/quote]

We've always been the ECACHL.  We've always been at war with Hockey East.

We were the ECAC, not the ECACHL.  and we are currently moving to be ECAC Hockey.

[quote Giffy]We were the ECAC, not the ECACHL.  and we are currently moving to be ECAC Hockey.[/quote]::doh::

[quote jtwcornell91][quote Giffy]was it just me, or was there a lot of talk about the ECACHL before there was an ECACHL...[/quote]

We've always been the ECACHL.  We've always been at war with Hockey East.[/quote]We have always been allied with... er... the WCHA.

[quote Trotsky][quote jtwcornell91][quote Giffy]was it just me, or was there a lot of talk about the ECACHL before there was an ECACHL...[/quote]

We've always been the ECACHL.  We've always been at war with Hockey East.[/quote]We have always been allied with... er... the WCHA.[/quote]
Now there's a lie you'll never get any Cornell fan to believe.

Has anyone gotten tickets yet? I just tried the link to the MSG Box Office, but the event's not showing up anywhere.

http://cornellbigred.cstv.com/sports/m-hockey/spec-rel/042907aab.html

Too bad it's only a 3-game series.

Just got an email from Athletics...

QuoteA special package for students is available.  For $45 you will receive a Big Red Sports Pass, a ticket to the game at Madison Square Garden, and a free Red Zone t-shirt.  Students may bursar this package either in person at the Cornell Athletic Ticket Office or by calling 607-255-4247.  Sales start Monday, April 30 at 10 a.m.  The ticket office is open Monday through Friday, from 10 a.m.-5 p.m.  This package will be offered until May 31.

This is actually a pretty good deal considering the fact that they charged $40 for the Sports Pass this year. It's worth it if you're going to the game and think you'll also be seeing $30 worth of sporting events next year. (I won't say how I feel about Cornell charging students admission to the events covered by the Sports Pass...)

Quote from: eblimesSales start Monday, April 30 at 10 a.m.

Sales on Ticketmaster (http://www.ticketmaster.com/event/1D003E6AF0508B66?artistid=839744&majorcatid=10004&minorcatid=9) start Monday, April 30 at 9 a.m.

[quote grizzdan24]

Quote from: eblimesSales start Monday, April 30 at 10 a.m.

Sales on Ticketmaster (http://www.ticketmaster.com/event/1D003E6AF0508B66?artistid=839744&majorcatid=10004&minorcatid=9) start Monday, April 30 at 9 a.m.[/quote]

The press release made it seem like tickets in the Cornell section could be ordered through Athletics or Ticketmaster, but I'm not entirely sure about Ticketmaster putting people in the Cornell section...I think I'm just going to go through Athletics.

Does anyone know if the CU athletic ticket office is limiting how many tickets one person can buy?

[quote ithacat]Too bad it's only a 3-game series.[/quote]Eh, 3 is fine.  I'd like to see more games against schools we haven't played before (or haven't played in a long time).

A number of classes are planning seating blocs, so that's another option. Most classes try to have one NYC event each year and since the annual Cornell class council meeting has relocated to Philadelphia for a couple years, this may be it.

I have heard nothing from the Class of 2006. I'm pretty upset right now.

[quote Oat]I have heard nothing from the Class of 2006. I'm pretty upset right now.[/quote]

Why? I don't think any class has made a formal announcement about blocks of tickets. And I really doubt anyone will have trouble "sitting with the cornell section."

I really don't see what all the fuss is about. It's not like MSG holds 2k people and will sell out today.

Of course the important question is who's organizing the alumni band for the game? They better not be seated in the rafters like in albany. :-P

[quote Chris '03][quote Oat]I have heard nothing from the Class of 2006. I'm pretty upset right now.[/quote]

I really don't see what all the fuss is about. It's not like MSG holds 2k people and will sell out today.[/quote]

My thoughts exactly. This is MSG, people. 18K+ capacity. You'll be able to get good tickets walkup on November 24th, no doubt.

Yes, Cornell and BU draw well, but 4 Cornell's wouldn't sell out Times Union Center in March for a championship. Nevermind two teams selling out MSG for a regular season game on a holiday weekend when many people will put family first and hockey a distant second (yes, believe it or not :-P ).

What's the big deal? I'll order in the fall.

[quote Chris '03]Of course the important question is who's organizing the alumni band for the game? They better not be seated in the rafters like in albany. :-P[/quote]
Unofficially, the word I got from the pepband manager is that he's looking forward to doing the game at MSG, so an alumni-organized band won't be necessary (alumni supplements, probably).

[quote DeltaOne81]Nevermind two teams selling out MSG for a regular season game on a holiday weekend when many people will put family first and hockey a distant second (yes, believe it or not :-P ).[/quote]

Family first on Thursday, yes. But this is Saturday.

Maybe students have become more family focused in the wake of 9/11 or something. But on the chance today's students feel as their parents did when they were students, and the parents' parents  ... much as you love seeing mom and dad and day three of turkey leftovers, sometimes, some students, might just want to get the hell out of the house for a little personal peace. The Garden looms large, then.

Sometimes we confuse a close-knit family with the washer and dryer at home being free.

[quote Josh '99][quote ithacat]Too bad it's only a 3-game series.[/quote]Eh, 3 is fine.  I'd like to see more games against schools we haven't played before (or haven't played in a long time).[/quote]

3 is better than one or none. B-]

[quote billhoward][quote DeltaOne81]Nevermind two teams selling out MSG for a regular season game on a holiday weekend when many people will put family first and hockey a distant second (yes, believe it or not :-P ).[/quote]

Family first on Thursday, yes. But this is Saturday.

Maybe students have become more family focused in the wake of 9/11 or something. But on the chance today's students feel as their parents did when they were students, and the parents' parents  ... much as you love seeing mom and dad and day three of turkey leftovers, sometimes, some students, might just want to get the hell out of the house for a little personal peace. The Garden looms large, then.[/quote]

Yes, but that only applies to those who go live within a couple hours drive of NYC (plenty, but far from all), go home for the holidays, and are big hockey fans. That last part alone knocks it down to at most a few thousand, and then the first two cut that down much more.

Add in alumni, etc and I have very little doubt they'll be a nice crowd, but, 'OMG, the tickets have been on sale for nearly 3 hours and I have yet to get my information' is still ridiculously overblown. It'll probably be the emptiest MSG hockey even in several years.

For instance, its nearly 12 hours later (!!!!!) and TicketMaster is offering me row 4, near the ice, at the blue line. Or row 5 at center ice in the 100s. So chill.


P.S. Does Cornell have any fees to order them (a few bucks shipping, as usual?) Cause TicketMaster again feels they deserve a 30% markup for being so 'convenient'.

[quote billhoward]
Sometimes we confuse a close-knit family with the washer and dryer at home being free.[/quote]

you have no idea how true that is... the cooking is nice, but the washer and dryer (and the mother who will do it just because you are home) are the reason students go home...

[quote Dpperk29][quote billhoward]
Sometimes we confuse a close-knit family with the washer and dryer at home being free.[/quote]

you have no idea how true that is... the cooking is nice, but the washer and dryer (and the mother who will do it just because you are home) are the reason students go home...[/quote]
Washers and dryers are free at home?  Not in my NYC apartment they weren't...

[quote KeithK][quote Dpperk29][quote billhoward]
Sometimes we confuse a close-knit family with the washer and dryer at home being free.[/quote]

you have no idea how true that is... the cooking is nice, but the washer and dryer (and the mother who will do it just because you are home) are the reason students go home...[/quote]
Washers and dryers are free at home?  Not in my NYC apartment they weren't...[/quote]

nothing is free in NYC... those who live their after they are out of college/out of mom and dad's house accept this fact

[quote Dpperk29][quote KeithK][quote Dpperk29][quote billhoward]
Sometimes we confuse a close-knit family with the washer and dryer at home being free.[/quote]

you have no idea how true that is... the cooking is nice, but the washer and dryer (and the mother who will do it just because you are home) are the reason students go home...[/quote]
Washers and dryers are free at home?  Not in my NYC apartment they weren't...[/quote]

nothing is free in NYC... those who live their after they are out of college/out of mom and dad's house accept this fact[/quote]
I know that.  And I meant when I was growing up in NYC.  I remember several times explaining to friends that it didn't make any sense for me to bring my laundry home because it was cheaper at school.  Just one of the things that set me apart as an NYC kid.

I still miss the looks I got when I told people that I didn't have a drivers license.  Fun stuff!

what ticket locations are you all getting?  I will probably need 8, ticketmaster is giving me section 40, which is side of the net.  Called Cornell and they only have ~5 seats between their 2 lower level sections.

also, what is this $9.95 service charge per ticket?  is the service fee still present if you purchase it directly from a ticketmaster location/madison square garden

[quote jaybert]
also, what is this $9.95 service charge per ticket?  is the service fee still present if you purchase it directly from a ticketmaster location/madison square garden[/quote]  

It doesn't look like you can get tickets through MSG itself, just ticketmaster. Are you kidding about that charge?  Thats fucking ridiculous.

Just got mine from the box office at the Garden. There is no extra charge at all...face value (49, 29, 24). You have to ask them about the cornell sections since the guy at the window didn't know and had to ask some other people. Got 4 seats in sec 116.

[quote nycranger]Just got mine from the box office at the Garden. There is no extra charge at all...face value (49, 29, 24). You have to ask them about the cornell sections since the guy at the window didn't know and had to ask some other people. Got 4 seats in sec 116.[/quote]

whoops..wish i had known that..could of asked one of my friends in NY to pick them up w/o the stupid extra chrage.  oh well, if you spread it out between everyone, its only $10/each.   whats another $10 when Im going to spend $400 to fly there right? :P

oh well, happy with my seat.  i ended up opening 2 different windows to ticketmaster, and the first try got 2 sets of 4, 1 behind the other.

Important Info:

The Cornell section is pretty much one-half the rink. The ticket office at Bartels gets a few sections at a time- the guy told me 500 tickets at a time. So, while the section of the rink they've sold out so far kind of sucks (I'm in 119), they will probably be getting better section as time goes by.

If it's an option for you, I'd recommend going to Bartels and figuring out what they've sold and what's going on, then deciding whether to Ticketmaster or just buy right there. I'm sure calling them will do just as well.

Poking around the Ticketmaster site, I was amused to find that when asking me to choose a section, they offered two choices "CORNELL FAN SECTION" and "Best available".

[quote David Harding]Poking around the Ticketmaster site, I was amused to find that when asking me to choose a section, they offered two choices "CORNELL FAN SECTION" and "Best available".[/quote]

Another example of the Lax Swami's subtle bias reaching into other areas of sports?

Trying to recall the last time Cornell played at Madison Square Garden - circa 1976?

[quote billhoward]Trying to recall the last time Cornell played at Madison Square Garden - circa 1976?[/quote]

[quote CU release]
Both the Big Red and the Terriers will be making their first appearance in the current incarnation of the "World's Most Famous Arena," and the game will be the first collegiate hockey game held at Madison Square Garden since 2003.[/quote]
http://cornellbigred.cstv.com/sports/m-hockey/spec-rel/042907aab.html

The "current incarnation" dates to what, ~1964?

[quote Chris '03][quote billhoward]Trying to recall the last time Cornell played at Madison Square Garden - circa 1976?[/quote]

[quote CU release]
Both the Big Red and the Terriers will be making their first appearance in the current incarnation of the "World's Most Famous Arena," and the game will be the first collegiate hockey game held at Madison Square Garden since 2003.[/quote]
http://cornellbigred.cstv.com/sports/m-hockey/spec-rel/042907aab.html

The "current incarnation" dates to what, ~1964?[/quote]

1968 seems like:

QuoteOn February 11, 1968 the fourth Madison Square Garden, Madison Square Garden IV, opened after the financially troubled Pennsylvania Railroad tore down Pennsylvania Station (although the tracks remained underneath).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Madison_Square_Garden#1968-present

[quote billhoward]Trying to recall the last time Cornell played at Madison Square Garden - circa 1976?[/quote]

[quote CU release]
Both the Big Red and the Terriers will be making their first appearance in the current incarnation of the "World's Most Famous Arena," and the game will be the first collegiate hockey game held at Madison Square Garden since 2003.[/quote]
We first played in the current MSG in Dec. '69.  Last played there in Jan. '76 IIRC.

[quote billhoward]Trying to recall the last time Cornell played at Madison Square Garden - circa 1976?[/quote]

[edit add]It was the 1975-76 season at the ECAC Holiday Festival. At the time Cornell was playing two holiday tournaments, the Syracuse Hockey Invitational Tournament, which ran from the late 1960s through 1976-77, then died (or at least Cornell went away), and then the ECAC Holiday Festival. Press guide says at the MSG festival Cornell lost 4-2 to Clarkson then beat Penn (yes, Penn once played hockey) 8-2.

[quote billhoward][quote billhoward]the Syracuse Hockey Invitational Tournament, which ran from the late 1960s through 1976-77, then died (or at least Cornell went away), [/quote]

Cornell played in the SIT in the 2001 season. I believe that was the last SIT. [Nope, it went on for another year: http://www.augenblick.org/chha/i_syr.html]

I stand corrected. I really thought the S.H.I.T. was a goner long before. The Florida Classic makes more sense at least as a publicity tool. Lots of Mark One Bancorp of Schenectady type holiday classics, not many in Florida.

As anyone have tickets near center ice. I was just at the ticket office and Gene claims these have all been sold. I find it somewhat hard to believe. I also called ticketmaster and they only show the ends available. Also ticketmaster online showing only the ends in lower bowl and 100 level. Just wondering if I waited too long or if the ticket people are jerking us around

[quote slh10]As anyone have tickets near center ice. I was just at the ticket office and Gene claims these have all been sold. I find it somewhat hard to believe. I also called ticketmaster and they only show the ends available. Also ticketmaster online showing only the ends in lower bowl and 100 level. Just wondering if I waited too long or if the ticket people are jerking us around[/quote]

They're definitely jerking you around.  Well, TicketBa$tard is, anyway, and they're probably jerking Gene around.  I had a friend who was so frustrated with Ticketmaster that he took a summer job with them just to see how the system worked.  The would intentionally hold good tickets while telling people that events were sold out and then "magically" release the tickets later on, etc - the point was to keep the audience guessing, just so that people would always think that they might have a chance, so they always keep calling.  Absolutely sucks - absolutely unfair (using 3rd grade playground morality), and there's absolutely nothing we can do about it.  

For you, Ticketmaster:

::flipd::

My thoughts exactly, I will keep checking from time to time. I will be in NYC in July so I may stop by the Garden and check then also. Gene is such a moron when it comes to dealing with him. He always gives some song and dance about not having any info and how the tickets are all gone and a bunch of other BS.

I went to Bartels yesterday and bought the last 3 tickets in the "best" student section (331). Supposedly they wont have any available other than 321 to about 327 for students, and everything else is behind the goal line for every other level. I don't think it will be too difficult to move around from section to section once the game starts, as ushers wont be as strict as they are during Rangers games, but I could be wrong.

The story from the MSG box office is the same. I went last week and was told that the Cornell seats in the 100 level were gone. It was not, however, a problem to get seats in the 200 level a row or two behind the Cornell section.

[quote mgl11]The story from the MSG box office is the same. I went last week and was told that the Cornell seats in the 100 level were gone. It was not, however, a problem to get seats in the 200 level a row or two behind the Cornell section.[/quote]

blah..bought 8 tickets earlier in section 60, seats 1-4 in 2 rows...but now I find out more friends want to goto the game!  Whats the best way to see if I can get a few seats around my other seats?  Do you all know if ticketmaster will be willing to look at individual seats for me?  Or should I get someone to go to the MSG boxoffice in person to do so?

[quote slh10]As anyone have tickets near center ice. I was just at the ticket office and Gene claims these have all been sold. I find it somewhat hard to believe. I also called ticketmaster and they only show the ends available. Also ticketmaster online showing only the ends in lower bowl and 100 level. Just wondering if I waited too long or if the ticket people are jerking us around[/quote]At least five of us (me, wife, daughter, sister, niece) are making the commitment to be there and have started looking at seat availability through Ticketmaster.  If I ask for the Cornell section, they offer me section 323 (behind the goal).  If I ask for best available over all, they offer me 101 (exactly in the corner).  If I specify level 2, they offer 204 (even with the special spots).  At level 3 they offer 335 (on the center line).  (There was also a single seat at the loge level and none at the mezzanine level.)  I've never been to MSG, so I don't have any sense of the scale or what the sight lines are like, except from the photos they offer http://www.thegarden.com/seating.html.  The photos are pretty useful, but can anyone comment?  I'm leaning toward section 204.  How far around the corner do they wrap the protective netting?

when the tickets went on sale originally, i know there were center ice seats available if you were an amex gold member (you enter the customer service # when checking out as your code).  I got the # from a friend and saw the center ice seats, but I opted to go with some seats towards the inside of the blue line, since we were able to purchase 2 sets of 4 in 2 rows next to each other in the same section.  (Just had 2 windows open...and they happened to give me 2 adjacent rows)

[quote David Harding][quote slh10]As anyone have tickets near center ice. I was just at the ticket office and Gene claims these have all been sold. I find it somewhat hard to believe. I also called ticketmaster and they only show the ends available. Also ticketmaster online showing only the ends in lower bowl and 100 level. Just wondering if I waited too long or if the ticket people are jerking us around[/quote]At least five of us (me, wife, daughter, sister, niece) are making the commitment to be there and have started looking at seat availability through Ticketmaster.  If I ask for the Cornell section, they offer me section 323 (behind the goal).  If I ask for best available over all, they offer me 101 (exactly in the corner).  If I specify level 2, they offer 204 (even with the special spots).  At level 3 they offer 335 (on the center line).  (There was also a single seat at the loge level and none at the mezzanine level.)  I've never been to MSG, so I don't have any sense of the scale or what the sight lines are like, except from the photos they offer http://www.thegarden.com/seating.html.  The photos are pretty useful, but can anyone comment?  I'm leaning toward section 204.  How far around the corner do they wrap the protective netting?[/quote]

In case anyone did not receive the message, this showed up in my mailbox yesterday afternoon:

Did anyone get tickets in the 200/lower level??

I got a decent block in the 100 level.

I got 5 in the 200 level...those were the "best available" at the time.  I have a feeling I jumped the gun and should have waited to see if they release more 100 level as the date gets closer.

According to Jack Parker nearly 12,000 tickets have been sold for the game: http://cornellbigred.com/News/mhockey/2007/10/2/mih_rhhmcc.asp?path=mhockey

Also, BU will wear white and be the home team.

[quote Chris '03]Also, BU will wear white and be the home team.[/quote]I disapprove.

the number sold according to MSG ealier this week was much less.  Whatever, a sell out or close to it would be great.

I hope to get my tix tom'w night at MSG.  With a discount...supposedly.

[quote Josh '99][quote Chris '03]Also, BU will wear white and be the home team.[/quote]I disapprove.[/quote]

Cue the discussion about the psychological advantage of red uniforms...

[quote ebilmes][quote Josh '99][quote Chris '03]Also, BU will wear white and be the home team.[/quote]I disapprove.[/quote]

Cue the discussion about the psychological advantage of red uniforms...[/quote]I don't care about that, New York is our state, we should be the home team (and have the last line change).

[quote Josh '99][quote ebilmes][quote Josh '99][quote Chris '03]Also, BU will wear white and be the home team.[/quote]I disapprove.[/quote]

Cue the discussion about the psychological advantage of red uniforms...[/quote]I don't care about that, New York is our state, we should be the home team (and have the last line change).[/quote]

Maybe they are still bitter over the series from the '02-03 series we schooled them in and demanded being the home team in return. :)

For those who are still shut out of MSG, http://www.stubhub.com/ seems to have a smattering of tickets available from private sellers, some at not completely outrageous prices.

Shut out? That game sold out?

Not as far as I know, but posts in this thread and the word elsewhere have made it sound to me like all the usual places to find tickets aren't bearing much fruit.  If I've misinterpreted I apologize for alarming anyone.  I'm sure tickets are still available - it's a big arena - but I don't know from whom anybody can currently try to get them, at least decent ones (I gather some in the 400 level are still out there).

They are available at ticketmaster

http://www.ticketmaster.com/event/1D003E6AF0508B66?artistid=1127143&majorcatid=10004&minorcatid=9 (http://www.ticketmaster.com/event/1D003E6AF0508B66?artistid=1127143&majorcatid=10004&minorcatid=9)


I just searched - 2 best available seats gives you upper deck: 400 level.

[quote abmarks]They are available at ticketmaster

http://www.ticketmaster.com/event/1D003E6AF0508B66?artistid=1127143&majorcatid=10004&minorcatid=9 (http://www.ticketmaster.com/event/1D003E6AF0508B66?artistid=1127143&majorcatid=10004&minorcatid=9)


I just searched - 2 best available seats gives you upper deck: 400 level.[/quote]For what it's worth, 400 level seats at MSG are pretty crappy.  I'd look elsewhere to see if I could do better before I took those.

[quote Josh '99][quote abmarks]They are available at ticketmaster

http://www.ticketmaster.com/event/1D003E6AF0508B66?artistid=1127143&majorcatid=10004&minorcatid=9 (http://www.ticketmaster.com/event/1D003E6AF0508B66?artistid=1127143&majorcatid=10004&minorcatid=9)


I just searched - 2 best available seats gives you upper deck: 400 level.[/quote]For what it's worth, 400 level seats at MSG are pretty crappy.  I'd look elsewhere to see if I could do better before I took those.[/quote]
Good enough for me. And I don't think that there are better to be had from standard channels. I got 6 from the Cornell Club (NYC) yesterday. No ticketmaster surcharge if you get from the Cornell Club.

Well, I reserved 6. Apparently the school (or someone) is sending another block to the Cornell Club and I'll pick them up when they arrive.

Honestly, I'm both shocked and elated that tickets have sold so well.  While I share the skepticism of many regarding ticket availability (I wouldn't be at all shocked to see a number of good seats go on sale two weeks before tpuck drops) it's pretty clear that MSG will very full, if not sold out, come the 24th.  Two college teams with relatively low national profiles coming close to filling a 20,000 seat arena is impressive.  There should be a ton of energy in the building, I know I can't wait.

Just heard a commercial for the game while listening to the Rangers on the radio...

FYI, the Cornell ticket office still has availability (and no stupid, huge TM charges, only $3 or so shipping). They have apparently regularly been requesting more from MSG when they run out. All that's left with them is 400s but are, of course, in the Cornell section.

I'm really surprised at how these have sold, but with needing to figure out family plans, had no idea how many I would've needed until recently.

Just an FYI, according to the Hockey East website... this game is supposed to be on CSTV at 8PM (LIVE)

For everyone who is outside traveling distance, tied up in Thanksgiving weekend plans or too poor to buy tickets, at least you will be able to see the game.  Lets Go Red!

Anybody know which end we shoot twice at?

[quote Jordan 04]Anybody know which end we shoot twice at?[/quote]When the Rangers play, the visiting team shoots twice at the end that's in front of sections 36, 96, 132, 232 and 347.  I believe that's the Seventh Avenue end, if that helps any.

[quote Josh '99][quote Jordan 04]Anybody know which end we shoot twice at?[/quote]When the Rangers play, the visiting team shoots twice at the end that's in front of sections 36, 96, 132, 232 and 347.  I believe that's the Seventh Avenue end, if that helps any.[/quote]

Thanks.

Had a friend pick up tix for me at the Garden.  We ended up with the first two rows of 420, 4 and 4 in front and back of each other. What's the first row of the 400's like at the Garden? Is it actually the first row of the section, or is it a Shea kind of deal where there are the boxes in the front part of the section, and behind the aisle starts Row A?

Never expected so many tickets to be sold, but happy to be in the building and looking forward to it!

[quote Jordan 04]What's the first row of the 400's like at the Garden? Is it actually the first row of the section, or is it a Shea kind of deal where there are the boxes in the front part of the section, and behind the aisle starts Row A?[/quote]I'm pretty sure row A is actually the front of the section, but not 100% certain.

I am the Great Procrastinator but it looks reasonably sure that I will be going to this game. I hope to take my nephews and convert them to the religion that is Cornell Hockey.

Although I am thrilled that the game will be packed, my dream that I could just stroll up at the last minute and by good seats in the Cornell section is gone.

Yet, I keep seeing references in the above posts to "opening up new sections" or "such and such a club or Cornell Athletics getting a new block of seats.

Can I reasonably expect a block of decent seats to become available if I just wait? Or do I need to start fishing around resale sites if I want some decent seats? As pointed out above, StubHub does have some seats, but the prices are not reasonable.

I just need for someone to tell me what to do....or I will just continue to wait and hope until it is too late.

I trust the Wisdom of this Crowd.
Thanks.

[quote Roy 82]I am the Great Procrastinator but it looks reasonably sure that I will be going to this game. I hope to take my nephews and convert them to the religion that is Cornell Hockey.

Although I am thrilled that the game will be packed, my dream that I could just stroll up at the last minute and by good seats in the Cornell section is gone.

Yet, I keep seeing references in the above posts to "opening up new sections" or "such and such a club or Cornell Athletics getting a new block of seats.

Can I reasonably expect a block of decent seats to become available if I just wait? Or do I need to start fishing around resale sites if I want some decent seats? As pointed out above, StubHub does have some seats, but the prices are not reasonable.

I just need for someone to tell me what to do....or I will just continue to wait and hope until it is too late.

I trust the Wisdom of this Crowd.
Thanks.[/quote]

In the words of the immortal Clint Eastwood, "Do ya feel lucky, punk?" If you don't want to gamble, buy what's available now either at the Garden or on Ticketmaster. The Cornell athletics office may also have some, and it's worth the call. When I called them over the summer, I could get better tickets from the other sources. I think only nosebleed section tickets are available now.

Alternatively, you can wait. I seriously doubt the Garden is holding back good tickets at this point. You can try walking up. Maybe the Garden will still have some tickets, or maybe people will be selling them in front. If it were me, I wouldn't choose this option, especially with kids. Nonetheless, we report, you decide.

Swampy

New batch of tickets available now, in section 115.

Through where ?

Ticketmaster

Thanks ! CUlater89

Geez, why do they do that?  Just to frustrate the hell out of the consumer who purchased tickets 2 weeks ago?

[quote Jordan 04]Geez, why do they do that?  Just to frustrate the hell out of the consumer who purchased tickets 2 weeks ago?[/quote]

Nope. They do it so the next time you hear that an event is sold out, you'll remember this and visit their website anyway, and even if there AREN'T any tickets for your event, maybe you'll buy something else instead.

Jerks.

[quote Swampy]

In the words of the immortal Clint Eastwood, "Do ya feel lucky, punk?" If you don't want to gamble, buy what's available now either at the Garden or on Ticketmaster. The Cornell athletics office may also have some, and it's worth the call. When I called them over the summer, I could get better tickets from the other sources. I think only nosebleed section tickets are available now.

Alternatively, you can wait. I seriously doubt the Garden is holding back good tickets at this point. You can try walking up. Maybe the Garden will still have some tickets, or maybe people will be selling them in front. If it were me, I wouldn't choose this option, especially with kids. Nonetheless, we report, you decide.

Swampy[/quote]

Well I wasn't feeling lucky but I did manage to get 5 in 214. I will take that at this point. I can only hope that it is behind the goal CU shoots on for 2 periods.

These tix and the 115s we heard about becoming available are behind the goal and I suspect that they weren't selling these sections until they filled in the sides a bit more. Just speculation.

Anyway, thanks for your inputs.

Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr!

I just went onto Ticketmaster and only see 2 tix up in 427...uggh.  Anyone have any suggestions for how I can sit any closer?  HEEEEELLLLPPPP!!!! :-)

[quote bigggreddd77]I just went onto Ticketmaster and only see 2 tix up in 427...uggh.  Anyone have any suggestions for how I can sit any closer?  HEEEEELLLLPPPP!!!! :-)[/quote]
Ignore everyone here next year and order early?

Kyle

[quote bigggreddd77]I just went onto Ticketmaster and only see 2 tix up in 427...uggh.  Anyone have any suggestions for how I can sit any closer?  HEEEEELLLLPPPP!!!! :-)[/quote]

Perfect time travel?  Wish for a healthy scalping scene at the arena?

[quote bigggreddd77]I just went onto Ticketmaster and only see 2 tix up in 427...uggh.  Anyone have any suggestions for how I can sit any closer?  HEEEEELLLLPPPP!!!! :-)[/quote]

Oh, this is easy. Check out StubHub (http://www.stubhub.com/boston-university-terriers-mens-hockey-tickets/?event_id=402348) and fork over up to $238 per ticket.::cry::

Yeah...been there...not gonna do it...and $238 is about the middle of the road price.  I was thinking of getting the whole lower level VIP box for $2,223 but decided against it. :-P

Yeah, that's an unfortunate aspect of having the game at a venue like the Garden. People who make their livings reselling tickets put up prices that would be "appropriate" for the Rangers games rather than college hockey. They don't know/care about the event and will just take the loss when no one buys and let the tickets go to waste.

[quote Cactus12]Yeah, that's an unfortunate aspect of having the game at a venue like the Garden. People who make their livings reselling tickets put up prices that would be "appropriate" for the Rangers games rather than college hockey. They don't know/care about the event and will just take the loss when no one buys and let the tickets go to waste.[/quote]

[quote nyc94][quote Cactus12]Yeah, that's an unfortunate aspect of having the game at a venue like the Garden. People who make their livings reselling tickets put up prices that would be "appropriate" for the Rangers games rather than college hockey. They don't know/care about the event and will just take the loss when no one buys and let the tickets go to waste.[/quote]

[/quote]
Clearly it's inefficient here because of lack of correct information about college hockey market.

[quote KeithK][quote nyc94][quote Cactus12]Yeah, that's an unfortunate aspect of having the game at a venue like the Garden. People who make their livings reselling tickets put up prices that would be "appropriate" for the Rangers games rather than college hockey. They don't know/care about the event and will just take the loss when no one buys and let the tickets go to waste.[/quote]

[/quote]
Clearly it's inefficient here because of lack of correct information about college hockey market.[/quote]

But... but... I thought the freemarket solved all problems ever! ;)

Seriously though, this discussion makes me wonder how much of this 'near sellout' is actually scalpers. What's the chance we get there and there are under 10,000 people actually in the building (still impressive or a college hockey game, but meaning half of the tickets that the actual fans couldn't get were bought up by people looking for a profit). Okay, it probably won''t be that much, but it'll be interesting to see.

[quote KeithK][quote nyc94][quote Cactus12]Yeah, that's an unfortunate aspect of having the game at a venue like the Garden. People who make their livings reselling tickets put up prices that would be "appropriate" for the Rangers games rather than college hockey. They don't know/care about the event and will just take the loss when no one buys and let the tickets go to waste.[/quote]

[/quote]
Clearly it's inefficient here because of lack of correct information about college hockey market.[/quote]
No, it's inefficient because (a) as the Cambridge Capital debate demonstrated, "efficiency" only has meaning in markets devoid of non-monetary capital (no MSG) and (b) what we have here is speculation and rational risk-taking in which the transaction costs of learning about the college hockey market outweigh the benefits.

[quote Swampy][quote KeithK][quote nyc94][quote Cactus12]Yeah, that's an unfortunate aspect of having the game at a venue like the Garden. People who make their livings reselling tickets put up prices that would be "appropriate" for the Rangers games rather than college hockey. They don't know/care about the event and will just take the loss when no one buys and let the tickets go to waste.[/quote]

[/quote]
Clearly it's inefficient here because of lack of correct information about college hockey market.[/quote]
No, it's inefficient because (a) as the Cambridge Capital debate demonstrated, "efficiency" only has meaning in markets devoid of non-monetary capital (no MSG) and (b) what we have here is speculation and rational risk-taking in which the transaction costs of learning about the college hockey market outweigh the benefits.[/quote]
No, it's efficient. QED.

Now, back on topic... I just went to Ticketmaster and they don't have any seats available, even a single seat.  I can't imagine the game is sold out, although I have heard that they've opened up the blue seats.

Although red is one of my least favorite colors, I was planning on going down to MSG to support college hockey ... or head up to Potsdam for the SCSU weekend.  I guess ticketmaster is making the choice for me.

[quote DeltaOne81][quote Chris '03][quote Oat]I have heard nothing from the Class of 2006. I'm pretty upset right now.[/quote]

I really don't see what all the fuss is about. It's not like MSG holds 2k people and will sell out today.[/quote]

My thoughts exactly. This is MSG, people. 18K+ capacity. You'll be able to get good tickets walkup on November 24th, no doubt.
[/quote]

Sadly, I agreed with you... and now I have no tickets. ::doh:: I'm still a little dubious about how many tickets have been sold, though. We'll see.

[quote Chris '03][quote DeltaOne81][quote Chris '03][quote Oat]I have heard nothing from the Class of 2006. I'm pretty upset right now.[/quote]

I really don't see what all the fuss is about. It's not like MSG holds 2k people and will sell out today.[/quote]

My thoughts exactly. This is MSG, people. 18K+ capacity. You'll be able to get good tickets walkup on November 24th, no doubt.
[/quote]

Sadly, I agreed with you... and now I have no tickets. ::doh:: I'm still a little dubious about how many tickets have been sold, though. We'll see.[/quote]

Heh. I'm still shocked, although seeing how it was turning out I did buy tickets via Cornell a few weeks ago. You may try calling the ticket office, they didn't seem to have problems getting more tickets a couple weeks back.

I was never planning on doing walkup, I just thought it would be a viable option. If this place really is 'sold out', then half of it is scalpers and the event will be empty. Its either that or a ton of tickets are being held back. It'll be interested to see.

[quote DeltaOne81]

Heh. I'm still shocked, although seeing how it was turning out I did buy tickets via Cornell a few weeks ago. You may try calling the ticket office, they didn't seem to have problems getting more tickets a couple weeks back.

I was never planning on doing walkup, I just thought it would be a viable option. If this place really is 'sold out', then half of it is scalpers and the event will be empty. Its either that or a ton of tickets are being held back. It'll be interested to see.[/quote]

I was hesitant to pull the trigger last week on 400 levels thinking there'd be plenty to go around. CU Ticket Office now has a wait list and is hoping MSG releases more seats this week. Time will tell. I'm thinking more seats show up somewhere besides stubhub though. Maybe I'll swing by agganis friday and see what they've got...

My guess is that the walkup will still be kind of cheap - especially if you aren't committed to warm-ups or even the anthem.

By the way, is this being treated like a road game w/r/t throwing newspapers? I'd say yes. (Not that I have the kind of arm that can get a paper ball to the ice from the 400s.)

I just picked up my Dartmouth tickets from the athletics office and in passing they mentioned that they have some "VIP" tickets for the game for $40ish.  I already have my tickets, so I didn't get any other info.  If you need tickets still, you might call though.

[quote ugarte]By the way, is this being treated like a road game w/r/t throwing newspapers? I'd say yes. (Not that I have the kind of arm that can get a paper ball to the ice from the 400s.)[/quote]

I don't think there's any question about it; everywhere but Lynah, whether it's technically a "home" game for Cornell or not, you do not throw the newspapers on the ice.

There have been some tickets popping up on Facebook recently, FYI.

[quote Beeeej][quote ugarte]By the way, is this being treated like a road game w/r/t throwing newspapers? I'd say yes. (Not that I have the kind of arm that can get a paper ball to the ice from the 400s.)[/quote]

I don't think there's any question about it; everywhere but Lynah, whether it's technically a "home" game for Cornell or not, you do not throw the newspapers on the ice.[/quote]

Yes, the standard procedure away from Lynah is to throw the crumpled up papers at each other/the band.

[quote jtwcornell91][quote Beeeej][quote ugarte]By the way, is this being treated like a road game w/r/t throwing newspapers? I'd say yes. (Not that I have the kind of arm that can get a paper ball to the ice from the 400s.)[/quote]

I don't think there's any question about it; everywhere but Lynah, whether it's technically a "home" game for Cornell or not, you do not throw the newspapers on the ice.[/quote]

Yes, the standard procedure away from Lynah is to throw the crumpled up papers at each other/the band.[/quote]

I've found that every newspaper thrown at my father and successfully batted down by him results in his strength increasing by plus 2 hit points.

Score!  Gotta love craigslist!  Section 116, Row C.

Can someone confirm for me that 116 is a Cornell fan section and that Cornell will be attacking that goal twice during the game?  Anyone?

this is kind of off topic, but what is the best and cheapest way to get from Ithaca to MSG without driving myself?

I just found out today that I have 2 tickets to the game, but neither me or the person that I am going with can drive.

thanks

[quote redheadfanatic]this is kind of off topic, but what is the best and cheapest way to get from Ithaca to MSG without driving myself?

I just found out today that I have 2 tickets to the game, but neither me or the person that I am going with can drive.

thanks[/quote]

Shortline bus to the Port Authority.

Then just walk the 8 blocks or take the subway one stop to MSG.

[quote Jordan 04][quote redheadfanatic]this is kind of off topic, but what is the best and cheapest way to get from Ithaca to MSG without driving myself?

I just found out today that I have 2 tickets to the game, but neither me or the person that I am going with can drive.

thanks[/quote]

Shortline bus to the Port Authority.

Then just walk the 8 blocks or take the subway one stop to MSG.[/quote]I haven't lived in Ithaca for like 7 years now, but I can still hear in my head the radio commercial saying "The shortest distance between two points isn't a straight line, it's a Short Line!"

[quote Josh '99]I haven't lived in Ithaca for like 7 years now, but I can still hear in my head the radio commercial saying "The shortest distance between two points isn't a straight line, it's a Short Line!"[/quote]
For me it's "What a difference in this generation" (or something like that) from the local TV spot.

[quote Josh '99]
I haven't lived in Ithaca for like 7 years now, but I can still hear in my head the radio commercial saying "The shortest distance between two points isn't a straight line, it's a Short Line!"[/quote]

< shutter >

Shortline is (was?) awful. I took it to/from home freshman year. And its the primary reason I had my car up there every year thereafter.

That said, its your best way. And the NYC routes are typically direct, I think, which is a lot less hassle (but don't take my word for it).

Its still what I'd do, if I were you.

P.S. Ithaca really needs a train station.

[quote redheadfanatic]this is kind of off topic, but what is the best and cheapest way to get from Ithaca to MSG without driving myself?[/quote]

Have someone drive you.

In all seriousness, doesn't Cornell still have a rideshare board at Willard Straight? A posting there for the BU game will probably turn up someone who wants to split the gas/tolls.

[quote DeltaOne81]
< shutter >

Shortline is (was?) awful. I took it to/from home freshman year. And its the primary reason I had my car up there every year thereafter.[/quote]

If quality/skeeziness is your concern, and you can afford a little more, there's another option these days:

http://www.c2cbus.com/

"Luxury" bus and 4.5 hours to the Cornell Club of NYC.  Pricey?  Sure, but it's cheaper/faster than amtrak or flying.  

I know redheadfanatic said "cheapest way" so this is more in response to Fred.  Another option is to split a rental car.  I just did a quick search on Travelocity, and I see rentals from Avis starting at $39 a day.  A pick-up Saturday morning and drop off Sunday afternoon totals $97.  Split that 2-3 ways (also accounting for gas and tolls) and you're in the $50-80 range per person.

I would list them thusly in order of expense:

1. Carpool/rideshare
2. Split a car rental
3. Shortline
4. Campus2Campus bus
5. Train from Syracuse
6. Fly

Edit: fixed who was quoted and added rental info.

[quote RichH][quote DeltaOne81]
< shutter >

Shortline is (was?) awful. I took it to/from home freshman year. And its the primary reason I had my car up there every year thereafter.[/quote]

If quality/skeeziness is your concern, and you can afford a little more, there's another option these days:

...

I know redheadfanatic said "cheapest way" so this is more in response to Josh.  I would list them thusly in order of expense:

1. Carpool/rideshare
2. Shortline
3. Campus2Campus bus
4. Train from Syracuse
5. Fly[/quote]

Actually, I think it was a response to me, but I screwed up the earlier quote formatting.

My issue with Shortline wasn't skeeziness, but it was:
1) drivers were assholes, um, "Harvard students". They'd make you wait 2 minutes to answer any questions you had, if they'd answer at all
and
2) I had a lot of questions because the routes listed online that looked like one continuous bus actually often required 2 or 3 changes (this wasn't true (at the time) for NYC lines, but was true for me trying to get towards Ct)

I hope its better.

[quote RichH][quote DeltaOne81]
< shutter >

Shortline is (was?) awful. I took it to/from home freshman year. And its the primary reason I had my car up there every year thereafter.[/quote]

If quality/skeeziness is your concern, and you can afford a little more, there's another option these days:

http://www.c2cbus.com/

"Luxury" bus and 4.5 hours to the Cornell Club of NYC.  Pricey?  Sure, but it's cheaper/faster than amtrak or flying.  [/quote]Whoa, that's an expensive bus ride.  I guess they've gotta pay for that Keurig coffee brewer (http://c2cbus.cbs.cornell.edu/c2c/galley.jpg) somehow, though.

[quote RichH]
I know redheadfanatic said "cheapest way" so this is more in response to Fred.  Another option is to split a rental car.  I just did a quick search on Travelocity, and I see rentals from Avis starting at $39 a day.  A pick-up Saturday morning and drop off Sunday afternoon totals $97.  Split that 2-3 ways (also accounting for gas and tolls) and you're in the $50-80 range per person.

I would list them thusly in order of expense:

1. Carpool/rideshare
2. Split a car rental
3. Shortline
4. Campus2Campus bus
5. Train from Syracuse
6. Fly
[/quote]


I'm going to guess that the person looking for a ride is under the age of 25. In that case, they would probably also be charged an extra fee for being young (those crazy kids with their loud music and fast cars... oh wait that includes me...). If it's anything like the fee I had to pay this summer, it'll probably run ~$20 a day extra. Also, if they're going to be driving in NYC for the first time, insurance might not be a bad idea. So all in all I would say that car rentals are a bit more expensive per person and might drop down that list a bit.

[quote DeltaOne81][quote Josh '99]
I haven't lived in Ithaca for like 7 years now, but I can still hear in my head the radio commercial saying "The shortest distance between two points isn't a straight line, it's a Short Line!"[/quote]

< shutter >

Shortline is (was?) awful. I took it to/from home freshman year. And its the primary reason I had my car up there every year thereafter.

That said, its your best way. And the NYC routes are typically direct, I think, which is a lot less hassle (but don't take my word for it).

Its still what I'd do, if I were you.

P.S. Ithaca really needs a train station.[/quote]

Don't know where home was for you, but for NYC-ITH, it was a breeze. During holiday time buses almost always ran direct, without stopping in Binghamton or Monticello for drop offs.  In 4 years and probably ~20-25 trips I never once had to switch buses for a trip to or from the Pot Authority.  Like all buses, you have the occasional sketchy clientele, but short of knowing somebody with a car, it is IMO by far the best combination of easy/convenient/cheap for getting to and from the city.

(Splitting a rental may is a good option as well, but those under 25 often have to deal with ridiculous fees. You also then have to park in the city, which for some could be reason enough to take the bus.)

[quote Jordan 04]
Don't know where home was for you, but for NYC-ITH, it was a breeze...[/quote]

Home was Ct. I went to Newburgh, NY where my parents would meet me. I typically had to change in Monticello and Middletown (and sometimes Binghamton).

Which doesn't make much sense because the online schedules show Ithaca --> NYC (via Binghamton) and Binghamton --> Newburgh as two routes, but, in reality, Binghamton was the only place I didn't always have to change. It was weird :)

And for all that I got a 5-6 hour bus ride and then another 1.5 hours in my parent's car, for a trip that should only take a bit over 4 hours if driven myself.

I live in Newburgh.  If you got that far, you should've just taken the train out of Salisbury Mills to the PATH right to downstairs at MSG.  No parking problems. **]

I'm still looking around for tickets.  I guess I might have to go up to Clarkson/SCSU or the RPI holiday tourney.

[quote dto]I live in Newburgh.  If you got that far, you should've just taken the train out of Salisbury Mills to the PATH right to downstairs at MSG.  No parking problems. **]

I'm still looking around for tickets.  I guess I might have to go up to Clarkson/SCSU or the RPI holiday tourney.[/quote]Nitpick:  The PATH doesn't go to MSG.

[quote Josh '99][quote dto]I live in Newburgh.  If you got that far, you should've just taken the train out of Salisbury Mills to the PATH right to downstairs at MSG.  No parking problems. **]

I'm still looking around for tickets.  I guess I might have to go up to Clarkson/SCSU or the RPI holiday tourney.[/quote]Nitpick:  The PATH doesn't go to MSG.[/quote]
That is really nitpicking. http://maps.google.com/maps?f=d&hl=en&geocode=&time=&date=&ttype=&saddr=33d+st.+and+6th+ave.+nyc&daddr=33d+street+and+7th+ave.+nyc&sll=40.748925,-73.98958&sspn=0.003503,0.007296&ie=UTF8&ll=40.749752,-73.989739&spn=0.001752,0.003648&z=18&om=1

[quote ugarte][quote Josh '99][quote dto]I live in Newburgh.  If you got that far, you should've just taken the train out of Salisbury Mills to the PATH right to downstairs at MSG.  No parking problems. **]

I'm still looking around for tickets.  I guess I might have to go up to Clarkson/SCSU or the RPI holiday tourney.[/quote]Nitpick:  The PATH doesn't go to MSG.[/quote]
That is really nitpicking. http://maps.google.com/maps?f=d&hl=en&geocode=&time=&date=&ttype=&saddr=33d+st.+and+6th+ave.+nyc&daddr=33d+street+and+7th+ave.+nyc&sll=40.748925,-73.98958&sspn=0.003503,0.007296&ie=UTF8&ll=40.749752,-73.989739&spn=0.001752,0.003648&z=18&om=1[/quote]
But it's a whole, long block in the big, scary city!  Or more since you enter the Garden at 32nd St.

Quote from: Josh '99Whoa, that's an expensive bus ride. I guess they've gotta pay for that Keurig coffee brewer somehow, though.

I actually just got off the darn thing a few hours ago.  Compared to other buses it is really nice.  Nice, comfortable seats (that recline way back and have pop-up footrests).  Very clean.  Free snacks, sodas, coffee.  Internet (direct hook up and WiFi) the whole way, with power outlets for each seat.  XM radio available for each seat.  A mini-conference table, etc. etc.  I have to say, for a bus ride, it was excellent.  No extra stops...just Cornell to Cornell (well, 3 Ithaca locations and 2 NYC possibilities).  

I've ridden Shortline, and it was okay, but this was much nicer.

CK

Something is very wrong with this event.  No tickets left through official channels, yet none available secondhand (except for a few choice Stubhub listings).  I'd imagine there is a massive block still left to be released on day of or sooner.  New York craigslist shows about 15 people looking, maybe one selling.  

What is a fan to do even the scalpers don't have any?

Quote from: WinnabagoWhat is a fan to do even the scalpers don't have any?

Sounds like the scalpers and fans had the exact same thought: "There is no way this game will come close to selling out."

yeah, I've spoken to some people familiar with ticket resale- they said scalpers wouldn't have bought up these tickets, seems like it will be a packed house after all

Cornell is now saying the game is actually, genuinely sold out, all 18,200 seats.

http://cornellbigred.com/News/mhockey/2007/11/20/mih_rhh_sellout.asp?path=mhockey

So it just remains to be seen whether the arena will be full, or the sidewalk in front of it full of annoyed scalpers.  I'm hoping for the former.

[quote Beeeej]I'm hoping for the former.[/quote]
I'm kinda hoping for the latter: a sidewalk full of annoyed scalpers would be amusing schadenfraude for the $70 @Harvard tickets I bought 3 years ago. ::barf::

Kyle

I'm curious if companies that have corporate season tickets for the Knicks and Rangers got to keep their seats for this event. If that is the case, I wonder how many of those will actually fill up.

from what i've heard, they do.  not 100% certain, but i'm pretty sure they do keep their boxes.

[quote krose][quote Beeeej]I'm hoping for the former.[/quote]
I'm kinda hoping for the latter: a sidewalk full of annoyed scalpers would be amusing schadenfraude for the $70 @Harvard tickets I bought 3 years ago. ::barf::

Kyle[/quote]

Annoyed scalpers would be the way to go, so long as there are at least 10K+ for the actual game. That way its actually a very good showing, with a bunch of annoyed scalpers (and cheap tickets for various last minute fans) to boot.

I can't imagine there's going to be thousands of scalped tickets going to waste on the street.

Scalpers usually aren't dumb. They know which events will make them money and which ones won't, and must know that street demand for college hockey is not going to bring in the big dollars.

I would be surprised, and disappointed, to see thousands of empty seats.

According to the jumbotron during last night's BU-Harvard game, there are still tickets for Saturday's game available through the BU athletic office.  

Whether or not the jumbotron lies, I don't know. :-P

From today's Ithaca Journal:

Jack Parker:  "We will officially be the home team, but we will not be the home team as far as the fans are concerned."


I hope he's correct!    This has all the earmarks of being one of the most exciting Cornell Hockey games that I've attended since Ned & the boys took over the old Boston Gahden.   I can't wait!!

"The Cornell Club-New York has a limited number of tickets in a MSG luxury suite.

Tickets are $75 each and include the cost of the ticket only.  Please contact Kerry Strassel for availability at 212.692.1381 or k.strassel@cornellclubnyc.com."

damn, sounds like a pretty good deal.  I paid $60/ticket from ticketmaster for my section 60 tickets...oh well

[quote redice]From today's Ithaca Journal:

Jack Parker:  "We will officially be the home team, but we will not be the home team as far as the fans are concerned."


I hope he's correct!    This has all the earmarks of being one of the most exciting Cornell Hockey games that I've attended since Ned & the boys took over the old Boston Gahden.   I can't wait!![/quote]

About 6 months ago, people on this forum postulated that the then upcoming lacrosse game in Baltimore could be the largest crowd a Cornell athletics team has played for in recent history.  (See this thread. (http://elf.elynah.com/read.php?7,116107))  This is going to be up there for indoor sports.  HSBC arena holds 18,690, so given a sellout for both, the 2003 Frozen Four would win.  The important thing about this game, however, is the percentage of the crowd that will be CU fans.  Only a small slice of the Buffalo crowd were actual Cornell fans (as opposed to interested upstate-NY supporters).  No, it won't be Wisconsin-in-2006 or Minnesota-in-2002, but I am getting chills about what I hope will be the loudest "Let's Go Red" chant in my experience.  It'll definitely be the most Red and White I've seen.  Wait...they wear Scarlet, not Red.  Scarlet is off-Red.

I think I remember a 4-team college hockey tournament in the late-90s that had to be moved from MSG to the Hartford Civic Center due to lack of interest.  A little research later:

http://www.uscho.com/news/college-hockey/id,689/PushingTheTournamentEnvelope

[Q]The doubleheader, the first of what Fanter promises to be a number of cooperative ventures with Hockey East, was originally slated for Madison Square Garden. However, slow ticket sales there prompted a move to Hartford.


"New York City is just not a college sports town," Fanter said. "Something could work there, but not this."

Sales in Hartford weren't great either, and a 5 p.m. start time on a Monday night before Christmas between Maine and Colgate had much fewer than 3,000 people there. RPI and New Hampshire played the late game. [/Q]

What vision for the old ECAC administration:  "I know!  Christmas Eve!"  This BU-Cornell event just makes a lot more sense.

[quote RichH]

Sales in Hartford weren't great either, and a 5 p.m. start time on a Monday night before Christmas between Maine and Colgate had much fewer than 3,000 people there. RPI and New Hampshire played the late game. [/Q]

What vision for the old ECAC administration:  "I know!  Christmas Eve!"  This BU-Cornell event just makes a lot more sense.[/quote]

To be fair the Monday night before Christmas in 1998 was the 21st. Wodon's column just ran on Christmas Eve.

[quote Chris '03]To be fair the Monday night before Christmas in 1998 was the 21st. Wodon's column just ran on Christmas Eve.[/quote]

Ah, my mistake.

[quote RichH]No, it won't be Wisconsin-in-2006 or Minnesota-in-2002, but I am getting chills about what I hope will be the loudest "Let's Go Red" chant in my experience.  [/quote]

Couldn't agree more, though I'll say I'm more excited for the "RED" in the anthem than anything else.

[quote RichH][Q]"New York City is just not a college sports town," Fanter said. "Something could work there, but not this."[/Q][/quote]New York does just fine with the Big East basketball tournament.  The problem isn't that New York can't ever get behind college sports, the problem is that there's no local rooting interest in college hockey.  Saturday's game gets around that by picking schools with HUGE alumni bases and scheduling it on a weekend when lots of students will be home and alumni will be able to make travel plans.  

I guess my point is, saying "New York City is just not a college sports town" was Fanter making the easy excuse for a poor scheduling decision.

The jumbotron does lie, just went to the BU ticket office, nothing left for public or students.  Does anyone know if MSG would release any day-of-game?  I was thinking of stopping by when they open on saturday.

[quote Josh '99][quote RichH][Q]"New York City is just not a college sports town," Fanter said. "Something could work there, but not this."[/Q][/quote]New York does just fine with the Big East basketball tournament.  The problem isn't that New York can't ever get behind college sports, the problem is that there's no local rooting interest in college hockey.  Saturday's game gets around that by picking schools with HUGE alumni bases and scheduling it on a weekend when lots of students will be home and alumni will be able to make travel plans.[/quote]
New York is kind of a shitty college sports town. There is no Division I-A college football to speak of. When St. John's isn't good, MSG only sells out because Big East teams like Syracuse and Connecticut travel well and fill MSG. I don't think that all of the games at Alumni Hall - a great place to watch a game - always sell out these days.

Have you been to The Big East tournament? It doesn't prove that NYC is a college sports town; it proves that Storrs, Syracuse, Pittsburgh and Washington DC are good college sports towns. I used to go to the ECAC Holiday Festival every year over Christmas. St. John's played almost every year, as did some of the best teams in the country.  I never had to buy my tickets in advance.

[quote ugarte]New York is kind of a shitty college sports town. There is no Division I-A college football to speak of.[/quote]

Well, it did sort of embrace Rutgers during their run last season...I seem to remember them turning the Empire State Building's lights to match Rutgers's colors at some point.

But I agree with your first statement.  Even LA, which is probably the US city that cares about sports the least, gets up for big college events with USC and UCLA.  NYU (Go Violets!?) and Columbia don't really cut it on the national sports radar.  But you know what?  I'm perfectly *fine* with NYC not being a big college sports town...in fact, I prefer it.  It's a great pro sports town.  No need for NY tabloid hype to get people not associated with the school to care superfically about and corrupt monetarily a school based on athletics.  NYU, Columbia, Yeshiva, Fordham, etc. are all great a being what they're supposed to be: educational institutions.  Not jock factories who exploit the system for bucks and publicity.  I wouldn't want it any other way.  [/soapbox]

Here's a theory just bouncing around my head: Americans tend to gravitate towards schools with their state name as a source of local/regional pride.  New York State (SUNY) really doesn't have that one BIG sports name.  In fact, the SUNY label is rather poisonous...which is why Albany, Buffalo, and Binghamton have all done name changes to drop the SUNY, and why the "SUNY Ithaca" chant is supposed to be derisive.

Going around the map, here's a list of states where the " University" "University of " or " State University" doesn't have (what I consider) a major football/basketball/hockey team (I'll parenthetically put the team that I think most average folks in the state lean towards):

New York (Syracuse U.)
Rhode Island (Providence College)
New Jersey (Rutgers...I know it's a state school but nobody calls it "New Jersey State")
South Dakota (?)
Montana (?)
Wyoming (?)
Idaho (Boise State)

good god, is it Saturday yet??

[quote BCrespi][quote RichH]No, it won't be Wisconsin-in-2006 or Minnesota-in-2002, but I am getting chills about what I hope will be the loudest "Let's Go Red" chant in my experience.  [/quote]

Couldn't agree more, though I'll say I'm more excited for the "RED" in the anthem than anything else.[/quote]

Well, don't get too disappointed if it's not overwhelming cheering. Remember, 90% of the "fans" probably haven't been to a game in years, maybe some never. Some of them may be old enough to get annoyed with a loud Red during the National Anthem, if so, so be it. But I don't expect it will even be as loud as a good Lynah night. A couple of thousand screamers can get lost amongst 15,000 sitters.

Hopefully I'm wrong.

[quote Jim Hyla][quote BCrespi][quote RichH]No, it won't be Wisconsin-in-2006 or Minnesota-in-2002, but I am getting chills about what I hope will be the loudest "Let's Go Red" chant in my experience.  [/quote]

Couldn't agree more, though I'll say I'm more excited for the "RED" in the anthem than anything else.[/quote]

Well, don't get too disappointed if it's not overwhelming cheering. Remember, 90% of the "fans" probably haven't been to a game in years, maybe some never. Some of them may be old enough to get annoyed with a loud Red during the National Anthem, if so, so be it. But I don't expect it will even be as loud as a good Lynah night. A couple of thousand screamers can get lost amongst 15,000 sitters.

Hopefully I'm wrong.[/quote]

Yep, that thought crossed my mind also.  Well, hopefully, the geriatric "facetimers" can find enough energy to rattle their jewelry or dig out that fur coat that got splattered with red paint from PETA protesters a few years back.  ;-)

[quote RichH][quote ugarte]New York is kind of a shitty college sports town. There is no Division I-A college football to speak of.[/quote]

Well, it did sort of embrace Rutgers during their run last season...[/quote]
Sort of ... but not really. That was bandwagon behavior. "During their run" means a lot more in that sentence than "Rutgers." The same thing happens every time Manhattan puts together a decent basketball team, but the truth is the city doesn't care about Manhattan basketball any more than country cares about women's curling if we can't make a plausible claim to be a medal contender.

QuoteGoing around the map, here's a list of states where the " University" "University of " or " State University" doesn't have (what I consider) a major football/basketball/hockey team (I'll parenthetically put the team that I think most average folks in the state lean towards):

New York (Syracuse U.)
Rhode Island (Providence College)
New Jersey (Rutgers...I know it's a state school but nobody calls it "New Jersey State")
South Dakota (?)
Montana (?)
Wyoming (?)
Idaho (Boise State)

Wyoming has a legit D-I basketball program (certainly as successful as anything Alaska does in hockey), Idaho has real in-state support (though Boise State has certainly been a lot better of late) and I think you are underrating Rhode Island's in-state support.

Rutgers is such a strange bird. Rutgers used to be private but, so New Jersey didn't have to create a legitimate state university system from scratch, the state bought it. I'll never understand why they didn't change the name (unless it was a condition of sale).

[quote ugarte]Rutgers is such a strange bird. Rutgers used to be private but, so New Jersey didn't have to create a legitimate state university system from scratch, the state bought it.[/quote]Very similar to what happened with Lowell Tech a decade ago, when Massachusetts bought it and reduced it to UML.

Edit: two decades.  God, I am older than dirt.  ::cry::

[quote Trotsky][quote ugarte]Rutgers is such a strange bird. Rutgers used to be private but, so New Jersey didn't have to create a legitimate state university system from scratch, the state bought it.[/quote]Very similar to what happened with Lowell Tech a decade ago, when Massachusetts bought it and reduced it to UML.

Edit: two decades.  God, I am older than dirt.  ::cry::[/quote]

It's okay... as long as you are not covered with dirt. ;-)

Happy Thanksgiving everyone!

[quote Trotsky]Edit: two decades.  God, I am older than dirt.  ::cry::[/quote]

So, what does that make Al and me. No, don't answer that.

Happy Thanksgiving from my household as well.

[quote Jim Hyla][quote Trotsky]Edit: two decades.  God, I am older than dirt.  ::cry::[/quote]

So, what does that make Al and me.
[/quote]
Methu...?  Never mind.

[quote Beeeej]"The Cornell Club-New York has a limited number of tickets in a MSG luxury suite.

Tickets are $75 each and include the cost of the ticket only.  Please contact Kerry Strassel for availability at 212.692.1381 or k.strassel@cornellclubnyc.com."[/quote]

So what does that mean, cash bar? ::drunk::

Not that it matters now with the supposed sell-out, but has anyone else noticed that the game is two days away, and yet MSG's homepage has absolutely no mention of the game or any related advertisements?  It's not even on the "featured schedule" of upcoming events.  Clearly the 1/18 Rascal Flatts concert is a much bigger deal.  Even clicking on the "Sporting events" sub-menu brings up absolutely no references at all to the game.

But really, regardless of how well the event has sold, it just seems like there's a whole lot of "we don't really give a crap" coming from the MSG higher-ups.


http://www.thegarden.com/

[quote Beeeej]Cornell is now saying the game is actually, genuinely sold out, all 18,200 seats.

http://cornellbigred.com/News/mhockey/2007/11/20/mih_rhh_sellout.asp?path=mhockey

So it just remains to be seen whether the arena will be full, or the sidewalk in front of it full of annoyed scalpers.  I'm hoping for the former.[/quote]

Capacity at MSG for hoops is 18,200.  For hockey, it's 17,500.

I've been told that additional tickets will be available the day of the game.  Not sure if that will be the case but I'm hoping so.

[quote Rich S][quote Beeeej]Cornell is now saying the game is actually, genuinely sold out, all 18,200 seats.

http://cornellbigred.com/News/mhockey/2007/11/20/mih_rhh_sellout.asp?path=mhockey

So it just remains to be seen whether the arena will be full, or the sidewalk in front of it full of annoyed scalpers.  I'm hoping for the former.[/quote]

Capacity at MSG for hoops is 18,200.  For hockey, it's 17,500.

I've been told that additional tickets will be available the day of the game.  Not sure if that will be the case but I'm hoping so.[/quote]

Don't use bold unless you know what you're talking about.

QuoteSeating Capacity

For basketball events in the Arena, the seating capacity is 19,763 and for hockey events in the Arena, the seating capacity is 18,200. For all other events, seating capacity changes depending on the set-up of the event. For events in the Theater, the seating capacity is 5,600.

http://www.thegarden.com/faq/index.html

[quote Chris '03][quote Rich S][quote Beeeej]Cornell is now saying the game is actually, genuinely sold out, all 18,200 seats.

http://cornellbigred.com/News/mhockey/2007/11/20/mih_rhh_sellout.asp?path=mhockey

So it just remains to be seen whether the arena will be full, or the sidewalk in front of it full of annoyed scalpers.  I'm hoping for the former.[/quote]

Capacity at MSG for hoops is 18,200.  For hockey, it's 17,500.

I've been told that additional tickets will be available the day of the game.  Not sure if that will be the case but I'm hoping so.[/quote]

Don't use bold unless you know what you're talking about.

QuoteSeating Capacity

For basketball events in the Arena, the seating capacity is 19,763 and for hockey events in the Arena, the seating capacity is 18,200. For all other events, seating capacity changes depending on the set-up of the event. For events in the Theater, the seating capacity is 5,600.

http://www.thegarden.com/faq/index.html[/quote]

Plus, it's not like I was guessing or speaking from memory - I got the number from the article to which I linked.  Granted, it was Cornell's article, not MSG's...  I'd have been perfectly happy to have accidentally been wrong.  But it sounds like I wasn't.

The lack of promotion on the web is odd, especially since it doesn't cost MSG anything to put it on their website, but I've definitely heard it advertised on the radio during a Rangers game once or twice.

[quote Josh '99]The lack of promotion on the web is odd, especially since it doesn't cost MSG anything to put it on their website, but I've definitely heard it advertised on the radio during a Rangers game once or twice.[/quote]

There have been television commercials as well.

That's not it, really.

The game, including the marketing, etc is a production ofthe two schools, not of MSG so they are not responsible for marketing efforts.  They're basically just selling tickets.

That said, there was a link on the Rangers website for several weeks to Ticketmaster plus many in-game ads on their radio broadcasts for the game.

Who paid for the radio spots, I don't know but in any case, I think it's inaccurate to say that MSG doesn't care.  It's in their best interests to see the game sell out if for no other reason than concession sales.

Plus a full house would bode well for a potential future Frozen Four bid.

For a while it was an almost guaranteed ad during every commercial break on Rangers hockey radio (heard at least 10 times during games on a few separate occasions)

Nice piece in today's Journal giving insight into genesis of the scheduling of the game:

http://theithacajournal.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20071123/SPORTS/711230357/1006

I did not realize there was a college game played at MSG in 2003 as mentioned in the Ithaca Journal story.  I had thought the last college game there was in '76 or '77.

Who were the participants?

From here (http://wapedia.mobi/en/Madison_Square_Garden):

March 1, 2003 - Quinnipiac University defeats the University of
Connecticut 4-3 in the first college hockey game played at Madison
Square Garden since 1977

[quote Trotsky]From here (http://wapedia.mobi/en/Madison_Square_Garden):

March 1, 2003 - Quinnipiac University defeats the University of
Connecticut 4-3 in the first college hockey game played at Madison
Square Garden since 1977[/quote]

 I did not realize there was a college game played at MSG in 1977. Who were the participants? Just kidding. :-)

[quote Trotsky]From here (http://wapedia.mobi/en/Madison_Square_Garden):

March 1, 2003 - Quinnipiac University defeats the University of
Connecticut 4-3 in the first college hockey game played at Madison
Square Garden since 1977[/quote]

http://www.uscho.com/box/?date=20030301&vis=uconn&home=qu&gender=m
MAAC Game
Saturday, March 1, 2003 at Madison Square Garden (Att: 2115)

The game recap: http://www.uscho.com/recaps/20022003/m/03/01/uconn-qu.php

[Q]Saturday marked the first Division I hockey game at Madison Square Garden since 1977, when Boston University beat St. Lawrence in a holiday tournament.

The game came off as such a success that there are already talks in place of another Quinnipiac-UConn game in New York City, and possibly a yearly game at MSG.[/Q]

Thanks, I had forgotten about that.

anyone understand how the lower level seats work?  On the seating chart at www.thegarden.com, the odd # section (59 for example) is in front of the even # section (60).  Is that because they cant fit both side by side?  Or is because 59 really is in front of 60?  

LGR!  Flight to NY from Dallas leaves in ~13 hrs...

ANyone know a good reasonable place to park near MSG? has anyone used the prepaid parking they sell on ticketmaster ($30?)

Just found this....

http://www.iconparking.com/Promotions_Specials.asp

See bottom link for coupon (gotta hand in that ticket though....)

Thanks for posting the coupon.