I am doing a Film Production class for my senior elective now, and we have to do a documentary. I am doing mine on Cornell Men's Hockey.
Ive decided to split it up in Chapters-
for an example:
Rule Number One: Cornell Hockey Rules (scenes of hockey)
Rule Number Two: Section O sucks (pan on section o fans)
What are you top ten "rules" for Cornell Hockey? Any help would be great (my documentary has to be at least 15 min)
-Chloe
Rule: Do Not Boo Your Own Players
Rule: Do Not Leave Early; Support The Red Until The End, No Matter The Score.
Rule: Classic jersey design...well...rules
First rule: Do not write rules about Cornell hockey.
Second rule: Do not write rules about Cornell hockey.
But seriously, I always thought it was better that our "rules" are unwritten, even somewhat undocumented. However, to continue jtw's more general angle at listing "rules":
Do one's best to perpetuate the Lynah Faithful's reputation as loud, supportive, sometimes obnoxious, but always knowledgeable hockey fans. This includes refraining from certain cheers when inappropriate (e.g. goalie-sieve-funnel, you can't score, etc.)
Most importantly, remember: If the rink/arena ever gets quiet, the terrorists win.
[quote BCrespi]First rule: Do not write rules about Cornell hockey.
Second rule: Do not write rules about Cornell hockey.
But seriously, I always thought it was better that our "rules" are unwritten, even somewhat undocumented. However, to continue jtw's more general angle at listing "rules":
Do one's best to perpetuate the Lynah Faithful's reputation as loud, supportive, sometimes obnoxious, but always knowledgeable hockey fans. This includes refraining from certain cheers when inappropriate (e.g. goalie-sieve-funnel, you can't score, etc.)
Most importantly, remember: If the rink/arena ever gets quiet, the terrorists win.[/quote]
I agree with Brian about the "written rules". I think it is the experience. I remember seeing my first couple of Cornell games from the "townie side" and being quite impressed (and equally confused) about what was going on in the student sections. This was in 1992 and 1993, so there wasn't much going on "on the ice" to be cheering about.
So maybe instead of rules, asking people (students, professors who follow the hockey team, players, alums now living in far off places) to share their memories of being part of the Lynah Faithful might be more interesting. You should get a wide variety of responses from the "Harvard game (insert date)", to favorite road trip, or even "Weder".
Just my 2 cents as the sun rises in paradise.
Aloha! and Let's Go Red!
All I can say is that my life has been ruined because as a kid I sat across from B and they swore a lot.
well, I already have lots of interviews, none needed in that department. I just thought "rules" would be a comical sense to spilt and make the documentary more interesting.
Thank you for all of your imput! I will take it inconsideration :-)
[quote calgARI '07]All I can say is that my life has been ruined because as a kid I sat across from B and they swore a lot.[/quote]
Actually, considering it's a documentary, Chloe07, and if you're set on slicing and dicing it from the perspective of rules, it might not be a bad idea to look at the swearing issue (that is, for example, one rule is, "no swearing in Lynah, or you'll get tossed or your season tickets can get revoked"). You can collect a list of all the things we used to yell out at people (I can help with that), and you can contrast that with things like the fact that "asshole" has evolved into something that is merely quickly muttered under people's breaths before "you goon". You could even interview some of the administration clowns, or the ushers, or Coach, and get their take on why The Man had to lower the boom.
(And yes, I saw that you said you already had enough interview footage.)
haha yes I do. I was more thinking of not actual rules. I was thinking of funny rules for that "wannabe hockey fan"
I know alot of people in my school believe they are "true" fans of cornell hockey, when they don't even know half the chants. That is why I added, "Rule Number Two: KNOW THE CHANTS BEFORE A GAME"
then I zoom on people who are off key, or saying the wrong word.
I also added, "Wear Red" And zoomed in on ALOT of students wearing A&E shirts, other logos ect... Wheres the red?!
[quote Chloe07]haha yes I do. I was more thinking of not actual rules. I was thinking of funny rules for that "wannabe hockey fan"
I know alot of people in my school believe they are "true" fans of cornell hockey, when they don't even know half the chants. That is why I added, "Rule Number Two: KNOW THE CHANTS BEFORE A GAME"
then I zoom on people who are off key, or saying the wrong word.
I also added, "Wear Red" And zoomed in on ALOT of students wearing A&E shirts, other logos ect... Wheres the red?![/quote]
Well, if you're going along that theme, the "Get to the games before they start" is a good one. Lots of chances to film people coming late.
[quote BCrespi]This includes refraining from certain cheers when inappropriate (e.g. goalie-sieve-funnel[/quote]
I've never really understood the logic behind this.
[quote Chloe07]haha yes I do. I was more thinking of not actual rules. I was thinking of funny rules for that "wannabe hockey fan"
I know alot of people in my school believe they are "true" fans of cornell hockey, when they don't even know half the chants. That is why I added, "Rule Number Two: KNOW THE CHANTS BEFORE A GAME"
then I zoom on people who are off key, or saying the wrong word.
I also added, "Wear Red" And zoomed in on ALOT of students wearing A&E shirts, other logos ect... Wheres the red?![/quote]
Ah. Well, if that's your angle, then my biggest beef with "kids today": If you can't show up early for games, at least be on freaking time.
[quote Chloe07]I also added, "Wear Red" And zoomed in on ALOT of students wearing A&E shirts, other logos ect... Wheres the red?![/quote]
I'll take a loud, knowledgeable fan decked out in all black over a quiet, uninterested fan wearing red Cornell garb. It (wearing Red) is nice, but I don't understand why so many see it as a requirement.
Once you make the film, tell us you're not going to repurpose the content and make one of the those little 3-by-3-inch inspirational books, "Every [Bleeping] Thing I Know About Life, I Learned at Lynah"? The Ivy League is good for a offbeat book every decade or so: Preppie Handbook circa 1980, pick-one circa 1990, Devil Wore Prada circa 2000. I don't think it's time again yet.
oh no, the film class I am in, actually uses a studio to do the editing. It will be aired on Time Warner Public Access Channel (Channel 13) for the people who still have cable :-P
I hope to meet your expectations. Thanks for the help, keep it coming, and I'll check in soon :-D
[quote redhair34][quote Chloe07]I also added, "Wear Red" And zoomed in on ALOT of students wearing A&E shirts, other logos ect... Wheres the red?![/quote]
I'll take a loud, knowledgeable fan decked out in all black over a quiet, uninterested fan wearing red Cornell garb. It (wearing Red) is nice, but I don't understand why so many see it as a requirement.[/quote]
but if your going to go through the effort to be loud and supportive then why not wear red too?
[quote evilnaturedrobot][quote redhair34][quote Chloe07]I also added, "Wear Red" And zoomed in on ALOT of students wearing A&E shirts, other logos ect... Wheres the red?![/quote]
I'll take a loud, knowledgeable fan decked out in all black over a quiet, uninterested fan wearing red Cornell garb. It (wearing Red) is nice, but I don't understand why so many see it as a requirement.[/quote]
but if your going to go through the effort to be loud and supportive then why not wear red too?[/quote]
Because your game-worn jersey is white? Because you've superstitiously determined that you wearing red to a game is bad luck?
[quote jtwcornell91][quote evilnaturedrobot][quote redhair34][quote Chloe07]I also added, "Wear Red" And zoomed in on ALOT of students wearing A&E shirts, other logos ect... Wheres the red?![/quote]
I'll take a loud, knowledgeable fan decked out in all black over a quiet, uninterested fan wearing red Cornell garb. It (wearing Red) is nice, but I don't understand why so many see it as a requirement.[/quote]
but if your going to go through the effort to be loud and supportive then why not wear red too?[/quote]
Because your game-worn jersey is white? Because you've superstitiously determined that you wearing red to a game is bad luck?[/quote]
Jerseys are an accepted excuse.
I find the superstition argument hard to accept, i think it takes alot of arrogance to assume that the luck of the team is dependant on whether or not you (1 of 4200 fans, none of which are participating in the game itself) wear red.
I'm not as much of a nazi about this as some, but I feel that having a majority of fans wearing red adds to the atmosphere and enviroment of lynah. As someone who cares about the atmosphere (as I would assume most induviduals reading and posting on this board are), why not go through the very small amount of effort that it takes to wear a red shirt?
[quote evilnaturedrobot][quote jtwcornell91][quote evilnaturedrobot][quote redhair34][quote Chloe07]I also added, "Wear Red" And zoomed in on ALOT of students wearing A&E shirts, other logos ect... Wheres the red?![/quote]
I'll take a loud, knowledgeable fan decked out in all black over a quiet, uninterested fan wearing red Cornell garb. It (wearing Red) is nice, but I don't understand why so many see it as a requirement.[/quote]
but if your going to go through the effort to be loud and supportive then why not wear red too?[/quote]
Because your game-worn jersey is white? Because you've superstitiously determined that you wearing red to a game is bad luck?[/quote]
Jerseys are an accepted excuse.
I find the superstition argument hard to accept, i think it takes alot of arrogance to assume that the luck of the team is dependant on whether or not you (1 of 4200 fans, none of which are participating in the game itself) wear red.
I'm not as much of a nazi about this as some, but I feel that having a majority of fans wearing red adds to the atmosphere and enviroment of lynah. As someone who cares about the atmosphere (as I would assume most induviduals reading and posting on this board are), why not go through the very small amount of effort that it takes to wear a red shirt?[/quote]
i think it takes a lot of arrogance to assume that the atmosphere and environment of lynah is dependent on whether or not you (1 of 4200 fans) wear red.
[quote evilnaturedrobot][quote jtwcornell91][quote evilnaturedrobot]
but if your going to go through the effort to be loud and supportive then why not wear red too?[/quote]
Because your game-worn jersey is white? Because you've superstitiously determined that you wearing red to a game is bad luck?[/quote]
Jerseys are an accepted excuse.
I find the superstition argument hard to accept, i think it takes alot of arrogance to assume that the luck of the team is dependant on whether or not you (1 of 4200 fans, none of which are participating in the game itself) wear red.
I'm not as much of a nazi about this as some, but I feel that having a majority of fans wearing red adds to the atmosphere and enviroment of lynah. As someone who cares about the atmosphere (as I would assume most induviduals reading and posting on this board are), why not go through the very small amount of effort that it takes to wear a red shirt?[/quote]Have you ever met a sports fan? Or someone who plays sports? We have superstititions for everything. What to wear, what to do before the game, where to park, etc. Does it make any sense? Of course not. That's not the point. It's certainly not "arrogance" though.
I indulge in lots of superstitions as a sports fan. For instance, I allow myself to think that where I watch televised Cornell hockey games has an affect on the outcome (and I sort of kick myself for watching the Minny and Wisconsin games in a place where I have coincidentally never seen a win). I think the point is that I allow my emotional state to be strongly affected by something that I have absolutely no control over - the success or failure of a bunch of kids wearing red with knives strapped to their feet (I'm sure I'm misquoting there). So I pretend that I have some control via superstition.
You might be interested in reading the following NYT article: http://www.nytimes.com/2007/01/23/health/psychology/23magic.html?_r=1&hp&ex=11695&oref=slogin
Back on the original topic, I never wore red when I was attending games regularly because I didn't own any red clothing. I don't the color on me and the only time I wear red is when I have a Cornell jersey on. I personally don't think a monochromatic crowd adds much to the atmosphere. Just my opinion.
[quote KeithK]Have you ever met a sports fan? Or someone who plays sports? We have superstititions for everything. What to wear, what to do before the game, where to park, etc. Does it make any sense? Of course not. That's not the point. It's certainly not "arrogance" though.[/quote]
I took ice skating for PE my senior year. I would always avoid skating through the crease as much as possible, for some reason it just felt like bad luck. Yes, I know I'm crazy and I'm comfortable with that. But it *was* Spring 03, so... you're welcome :-P
Great article, btw.
[quote Jacob 03][quote evilnaturedrobot][quote jtwcornell91][quote evilnaturedrobot][quote redhair34][quote Chloe07]I also added, "Wear Red" And zoomed in on ALOT of students wearing A&E shirts, other logos ect... Wheres the red?![/quote]
I'll take a loud, knowledgeable fan decked out in all black over a quiet, uninterested fan wearing red Cornell garb. It (wearing Red) is nice, but I don't understand why so many see it as a requirement.[/quote]
but if your going to go through the effort to be loud and supportive then why not wear red too?[/quote]
Because your game-worn jersey is white? Because you've superstitiously determined that you wearing red to a game is bad luck?[/quote]
Jerseys are an accepted excuse.
I find the superstition argument hard to accept, i think it takes alot of arrogance to assume that the luck of the team is dependant on whether or not you (1 of 4200 fans, none of which are participating in the game itself) wear red.
I'm not as much of a nazi about this as some, but I feel that having a majority of fans wearing red adds to the atmosphere and enviroment of lynah. As someone who cares about the atmosphere (as I would assume most induviduals reading and posting on this board are), why not go through the very small amount of effort that it takes to wear a red shirt?[/quote]
i think it takes a lot of arrogance to assume that the atmosphere and environment of lynah is dependent on whether or not you (1 of 4200 fans) wear red.[/quote]
Did I say that? Of course it isn't going to make much of a differance if you induvidually decide not to wear red. It also won't make much of a differance if you induvidually decide not to cheer. But when multiple induviduals start making these decisions it hurts the whole.
[quote DeltaOne81]I took ice skating for PE my senior year. I would always avoid skating through the crease as much as possible, for some reason it just felt like bad luck. Yes, I know I'm crazy and I'm comfortable with that. But it *was* Spring 03, so... you're welcome :-P[/quote]
Did you start skating through the crease in April? ::yark::
[quote Will][quote DeltaOne81]I took ice skating for PE my senior year. I would always avoid skating through the crease as much as possible, for some reason it just felt like bad luck. Yes, I know I'm crazy and I'm comfortable with that. But it *was* Spring 03, so... you're welcome :-P[/quote]
Did you start skating through the crease in April? ::yark::[/quote]
Heh. No I'm pretty sure the class was over by then. I suppose you can blame Dave for not extended the class so I could continue not skating through the crease... but Dave's too cool to be blamed for anything
I can understand superstitions when it comes to those actually playing the game, I know I induldged in a few when I played sports. This is because to play at your best you have to be as comfortable as possible, if you need to follow a superstition to do this then fine.
BUt do you really need to be 100% comfortable to shout lets go red?
[quote evilnaturedrobot]I can understand superstitions when it comes to those actually playing the game, I know I induldged in a few when I played sports. This is because to play at your best you have to be as comfortable as possible, if you need to follow a superstition to do this then fine.
BUt do you really need to be 100% comfortable to shout lets go red?[/quote]I think I explained my reason for superstition as a fan (or at least the conclusion I've come to after thinking about it). It provides some imagined control over the outcome, which helps to justify the emotional investment. It's not about comfort.
[quote DeltaOne81]Great article, btw.[/quote]For the record, hat tip to cbuckser for the article link.
Superstitions and rituals are fun. We watch sports because it's fun.
of course, it's really a minor issue.
[quote Chloe07]well, I already have lots of interviews, none needed in that department. I just thought "rules" would be a comical sense to spilt and make the documentary more interesting.
Thank you for all of your imput! I will take it inconsideration :-)[/quote]
So, will the documentary be in English?
"My only feeling about superstition is that it's unlucky to be behind at the end of the game." -Duffy Daugherty
[quote ACM]"My only feeling about superstition is that it's unlucky to be behind at the end of the game." -Duffy Daugherty[/quote]
Unless you're the 1972 Soviet men's basketball team.
[quote French Rage][quote ACM]"My only feeling about superstition is that it's unlucky to be behind at the end of the game." -Duffy Daugherty[/quote]
Unless you're the 1972 Soviet men's basketball team.[/quote]
Or the Dartmouth football team.
If you're short on rules, several more can be derived from the page of cheers and when to use them http://www.elynah.com/?cheers
[quote DeltaOne81]I took ice skating for PE my senior year. I would always avoid skating through the crease as much as possible, for some reason it just felt like bad luck. Yes, I know I'm crazy and I'm comfortable with that. But it *was* Spring 03, so... you're welcome :-P[/quote]Yeah, I followed a few superstitions that year too. A couple of them involved driving to the games - I hope I didn't jinx us by getting in a car accident the week before the Frozen Four! ::demented::