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Title: Cornell-Brown
Post by: Greg Berge on November 23, 2002, 07:12:30 PM
Well, this might be a short thread, since no audio feeds are working.  All I can contribute is the LiveStats link:

http://cornellbigred.ocsn.com/livestats/m-hockey/index.html

If they update with goals I'll post them, otherwise, we're all up you know where.
Title: Re: Cornell-Brown
Post by: Al DeFlorio on November 23, 2002, 07:16:43 PM
At least some of us haven't paid for the pleasure.;-)

Title: Re: Cornell-Brown
Post by: Al DeFlorio on November 23, 2002, 07:18:24 PM
Each team 0-1 on the PP.

Title: Re: Cornell-Brown
Post by: gwm3 on November 23, 2002, 07:25:15 PM
Make that 0-2 for the good guys.
Title: Re: Cornell-Brown
Post by: gwm3 on November 23, 2002, 07:28:35 PM
... and 0-3 ... it's like watching paint dry.
Title: Re: Cornell-Brown
Post by: Greg Berge on November 23, 2002, 07:29:52 PM
Watching this gives you an interesting view of Doug Murray.  He has tried 8 shots so far, I think half have been blocked, 3 have been wide, and one was on net and saved.  I can see that slapper firing.  ;-)
Title: Re: Cornell-Brown
Post by: Al DeFlorio on November 23, 2002, 07:31:12 PM
Brown getting a lot of shots on their second PP.

Title: Re: Cornell-Brown
Post by: Greg Berge on November 23, 2002, 07:32:33 PM
Bruno now 0x2 on pp.  Cornell leads in shots 7-4.  5 pp's early -- sounds chippy.
Title: Re: Cornell-Brown
Post by: gwm3 on November 23, 2002, 07:32:48 PM
Does anyone else find it amusing that the stats page is titled "Live Hockey Action"?
Title: Re: Cornell-Brown
Post by: Al DeFlorio on November 23, 2002, 07:35:07 PM
All I can say is I'm glad I'm not the guy/gal inputting the data.  Bet this costs more than free radio broadcasts.:-P

Title: Re: Cornell-Brown
Post by: gwm3 on November 23, 2002, 07:36:32 PM
Well that's the end of the first.  It appears that we will be starting the second on the PP.
Title: Re: Cornell-Brown
Post by: Greg Berge on November 23, 2002, 07:37:27 PM
End of period, 0-0.  Shots: 7-4 Cornell.  PP: Brown 0x2, Cornell 0x4.

And after *reading* a period, may I simply and elegantly say thank you so much for the added value of this service, Andy Noel and Cornell athletics.
Title: Re: Cornell-Brown
Post by: Al DeFlorio on November 23, 2002, 07:37:47 PM
Heart-rendering excitement, eh?

Title: Re: Cornell-Brown
Post by: Greg Berge on November 23, 2002, 07:41:50 PM
"Rendering"?  Isn't that how they make Big Macs?   ::yark::
Title: Re: Cornell-Brown
Post by: Al DeFlorio on November 23, 2002, 07:45:03 PM
Nah, that's what they do to the rest of the animal.

(And I meant to put that in quotes.)

Title: Re: Cornell-Brown
Post by: Al DeFlorio on November 23, 2002, 07:47:48 PM
Haven't had a shot-on-goal in six or seven minutes.

Title: Re: Cornell-Brown
Post by: cmoberg on November 23, 2002, 07:55:05 PM
Baby Scores on the PP 1-0 Cornell
Title: Re: Cornell-Brown
Post by: bigred apple on November 23, 2002, 07:59:41 PM
thanks for the update
Title: Re: Cornell-Brown
Post by: Greg Berge on November 23, 2002, 08:05:33 PM
Full scoring on that goal:

1:31 Cor pp Bâby 2 (Mark McRae, Murray)

Cornell kills off another penalty.  So far Cornell is 1x4 and Brown ox3 on pp.  Game sounds pretty even.
Title: Re: Cornell-Brown
Post by: cmoberg on November 23, 2002, 08:12:27 PM
McRae scores  2-0 Cornell
Title: Re: Cornell-Brown
Post by: Cop at Lynah on November 23, 2002, 08:12:36 PM
mcRae scores 2-0 Cornell - Mark McRae from Vesce
Title: Re: Cornell-Brown
Post by: Greg Berge on November 23, 2002, 08:12:49 PM
12:54 Cor   Mark McRae 3 (Vesce)
Title: Re: Cornell-Brown
Post by: Al DeFlorio on November 23, 2002, 08:13:00 PM
Shots now 9-9 after early 7-1 Cornell advantage.  But shots don't count.b

Title: Re: Cornell-Brown
Post by: Cop at Lynah on November 23, 2002, 08:13:59 PM
Anybody catch what the injuries to Bell and Cook are?
Title: Re: Cornell-Brown
Post by: Al DeFlorio on November 23, 2002, 08:15:35 PM
McRae now +5 on the weekend plus an assist on the lone PPG.

Title: Re: Cornell-Brown
Post by: cmoberg on November 23, 2002, 08:16:13 PM
McRae Scores again 3-0
Title: Re: Cornell-Brown
Post by: Cop at Lynah on November 23, 2002, 08:16:24 PM
Mark McRae scores - 3-0
Title: Re: Cornell-Brown
Post by: Greg Berge on November 23, 2002, 08:19:42 PM
14:?? Cor pp   Mark McRae 4 (Vesce)
Title: Re: Cornell-Brown
Post by: Greg Berge on November 23, 2002, 08:21:27 PM
Isn't McRae +7?  +4 yesterday and 2-1-3 today?
Title: Re: Cornell-Brown
Post by: Al DeFlorio on November 23, 2002, 08:21:49 PM
Danis must have a new girlfriend. ::nut::

Title: Re: Cornell-Brown
Post by: Greg Berge on November 23, 2002, 08:22:40 PM
Oh, that's right, you don't get a plus for the pp.  Never mind.
Title: Re: Cornell-Brown
Post by: cmoberg on November 23, 2002, 08:23:37 PM
Ryan Vesce scores with 2 seconds left.  4-0
Title: Re: Cornell-Brown
Post by: Greg Berge on November 23, 2002, 08:25:42 PM
19:57 Cor    Vesce 3 (Knoepfli, Murray)
Title: Re: Cornell-Brown
Post by: Al DeFlorio on November 23, 2002, 08:29:22 PM
Power play goals for and short-handed goals against don't count in the +/-.  Don't know about short-handed goals for.

Title: Re: Cornell-Brown
Post by: Al DeFlorio on November 23, 2002, 08:30:52 PM
Whatever the stats--still a terrific weekend for Mark.  Living up to the recruiting hype.

Title: Re: Cornell-Brown
Post by: Greg Berge on November 23, 2002, 08:31:49 PM
I know shg against count.  Are you sure shg for don't?  I thought they did.
Title: Re: Cornell-Brown
Post by: Al DeFlorio on November 23, 2002, 08:34:58 PM
Livestats shows Jon Gleed taking faceoffs.  What the hey?

Title: Re: Cornell-Brown
Post by: Al DeFlorio on November 23, 2002, 08:36:45 PM
Livestats shows Brown with a total of -10 for +/-, so the two PP goals must not count against.

Title: Re: Cornell-Brown
Post by: Greg Berge on November 23, 2002, 08:38:40 PM
pp goals never count for +/-.
Title: Re: Cornell-Brown
Post by: Greg Berge on November 23, 2002, 08:40:00 PM
Mark is definitely shining this weekend.  Atlanta must be happy about that.
Title: Re: Cornell-Brown
Post by: Greg Berge on November 23, 2002, 08:46:43 PM
Balance:

Cornell goals per league weekend:

Yal/Prn: 9
Ver/Drt: 10
Hvd/Brn: 9 so far

Under 13 mins to go now, still 4-0 good guys.
Title: Re: Cornell-Brown
Post by: Al DeFlorio on November 23, 2002, 08:52:24 PM
Sheesh--six saves for LeNeveu on a Brown PP.

Title: Re: Cornell-Brown
Post by: Greg Berge on November 23, 2002, 08:53:25 PM
12:08 to go.
Title: Re: Cornell-Brown
Post by: Greg Berge on November 23, 2002, 08:56:39 PM
10:14
Title: Re: Cornell-Brown
Post by: Greg Berge on November 23, 2002, 09:00:41 PM
Brown goes on pp.  Big test for D to try to hold the fort for Lenny.
Title: Re: Cornell-Brown
Post by: Greg Berge on November 23, 2002, 09:02:59 PM
Cornell kills it off, 6 mins to go.
Title: Re: Cornell-Brown
Post by: Greg Berge on November 23, 2002, 09:04:18 PM
5:35.  Coincidental minors coming up.  Hornby is inspiring Bruno to be... feisty.
Title: Re: Cornell-Brown
Post by: Al DeFlorio on November 23, 2002, 09:08:14 PM
Three-point game for Vesce, too.

Title: Re: Cornell-Brown
Post by: Greg Berge on November 23, 2002, 09:18:33 PM
5-0 on goal by Varteressian.  27 seconds to go.  Idiocy galore by Brown leads to a 2 man pp.
Title: Re: Cornell-Brown
Post by: Al DeFlorio on November 23, 2002, 09:20:59 PM
The frustration of a double-shutout weekend, I suppose.  Down-to-earth after a flashy beginning.  Disappointed in Grillo, though.

Title: Re: Cornell-Brown
Post by: Greg Berge on November 23, 2002, 09:21:13 PM
Lenny gets his shut out.  Cornell now 6-1 overall, 5-1 ECAC, 4-1 Ivy.

Woohoo!
Title: Re: Cornell-Brown
Post by: Al DeFlorio on November 23, 2002, 09:22:58 PM
1.14 GAA for Lenny.  (Well, maybe a tad higher 'cuz he missed a minute.)

Title: Re: Cornell-Brown
Post by: Adam \'04 on November 23, 2002, 10:04:09 PM
And count one semi-ENG to his name. When all the crap was going down at the end of the game Danis skated out of his net and Dave shot the puck from his crease, and scored...well kind of. It was really funny. ::laugh:: Danis didn't leave his net after that. Also Brown did not shake hands at the end of the game. I kind of felt bad for him.
Title: Re: Cornell-Brown
Post by: littleredfan on November 23, 2002, 10:07:38 PM
hey someone give me an update!! whats this imbroglio @ the end of the game?
Title: Re: Cornell-Brown
Post by: Ben Doyle 03 on November 23, 2002, 10:10:23 PM
not shaking hands at the end of the game was definitely better for both sides. the last thing we need going into next weekends B.U. series are some stupid fighting majors. . .and there would have been a fight,  that's a certainty!

:-)) :-)) anyways. . .great weekednd for the guys! :-)) :-))


:-PHarvard(sUcKs) & Brown swallows:-P

Title: Re: Cornell-Brown
Post by: littleredfan on November 23, 2002, 10:13:47 PM
any out of town scores??
Title: Re: Cornell-Brown
Post by: Ben Doyle 03 on November 23, 2002, 10:18:46 PM
Bemidji State   4
Clarkson          5

Yale    5
UVM    4

Harvard    7
Colgate    1

Dartmouth    3
Princeton      2    

Those were the scores I heard from Adam during the post-game on the way home in the car.

Title: Re: Cornell-Brown
Post by: pfibiger on November 23, 2002, 10:20:33 PM
3-2 was the Dartmouth-Princeton final.

also,

RPI 5 - Mercyhurst 3
Title: Re: Cornell-Brown
Post by: profudge on November 23, 2002, 11:01:01 PM
The end was very ugly  3 pairs of misconducts in last 5 minutes plus other minors;   started with a large brown player on a nasty high stick to Matt M. and Matt went after him after the whistle big time....  2 min minor for roughing to matt and a misconduct  and a 5 min major and a misconduct to Brown player both to the locker room...  this set up a 3 on 3 since it was already 4 v 4   and then Cornell man up for last 2 min 50 secs or so....  I felt we were lucky the Ref didn't throw game misconducts in there!    things were close to out of control.    

Then after the last whistle a Brown player instigated a fracas w ?? and 2 players were roughing it up well after the final whistle -  they only got 2 min minors according to the announcer --  I thought that kind of thing was an automatic Game DQ ???    anyhow it then looked like the Ref directed Brown to leave the ice - - Brown captain seemed to be arguing with him but he lost   (not sure my interpretation is correct just how it looked....)

Anyhow great effort by the Big Red -- bring on BU!!!

Title: Re: Cornell-Brown
Post by: kingpin248 on November 23, 2002, 11:06:34 PM
Esdale's cross-check at 60:00 was later changed to a major.  No DQ though.

Also, collegehockeystats.com lists the first goal as Vesce's, which is consistent with what Bâby said in the postgame interview.
Title: Re: Cornell-Brown
Post by: profudge on November 23, 2002, 11:09:09 PM
Charlie Cook was watching the game in civies using a pair of crutches  - - from nasty hit in third period against Harvard.  

Bell was not dressed and I heard he has a strained abominal muscle.... hopefully back in a week or so...

just the talk at the game....   FYI

Title: Re: Cornell-Brown
Post by: The Turkeybone on November 24, 2002, 02:04:31 AM
There was also that period of time where Brown was skating with only four players?

Was this just a mistake on their part, or what?
Title: Re: Cornell-Brown
Post by: DeltaOne81 on November 24, 2002, 11:49:28 AM
[Q]I thought that kind of thing was an automatic Game DQ ???[/Q]
Two comments. First, nothing I saw I thought should've been an automatic game DQ. There were some punches, but nothing the refs didn't break up quickly. It was all very close to a fighting major/game DQ, but nothing that *clearly* crossed the line. I was just standing there saying "come on, guys, dont get suspended for BU."

Second, did anyone else leave the game with the impression that the ref knew what our next game was, and that it's important to the conference, and tried to give the fairest penalties he could short of DQ's. Maye he got a whisper from the conference or just knew himself. I obviously have no way of knowing if that's true, but it's just the feeling I got. Because despite the fact that some of that stuff could go either way, usually I think people would have gotten the boot.
Title: Re: Cornell-Brown
Post by: Greg Berge on November 24, 2002, 12:21:44 PM
Only if our refs were as conscious as CCHA refs.

One reason I don't think so (although I was only listening to the game) is: if the refs were operating with any sort of cognizance about "what's good for the conference," they would have called the whole third period so close to the shirt they would have been inside the players' pads.  From the 10 minute mark onwards in a 4 goal game anything borderline of the rough/spear/board variety would have been up on the board.
Title: Re: Cornell-Brown
Post by: Ben Doyle 03 on November 24, 2002, 12:31:53 PM
It seemed as though he knew he had "lost" the game but by the time he actually realized this it was not coming back under control. I agree with Fred in regards to him knowing that next weekend is a HUGE weekend for the ECAC. . .throwing out players for borderline fighting calls would not be beneficial to the league. Support for this can be seen by the fact that he instructed the Brown team to leave the ice after the game, not allowing them to shake hands (the Brown captain was NOT happy with that decision).

Title: Re: Cornell-Brown
Post by: atb9 on November 24, 2002, 03:34:20 PM
Baby was in constant contact with the ref throughout the 3rd period.  I'm sure he let the ref know not to let the game get out of control for a number of reasons.

Title: Re: Cornell-Brown
Post by: Ben Doyle 03 on November 25, 2002, 10:02:55 PM
I almost forgot to mention this. . .did anyone else see that nice older fella catch the puck that flew into section C on Saturday night??? Oh wait, that was Beeeej. . .:-P

:-))Not a bad catch for an old guy!!!:-))

Title: Re: Cornell-Brown
Post by: Beeeej on November 25, 2002, 10:39:00 PM
Whippersnapper.   ::nut::

Been waitin' more than fifteen years to make a catch like that.

Beeeej

Title: Re: Cornell-Brown
Post by: JohnnyB on November 25, 2002, 11:35:35 PM
Dude, it is so much easier to just ask the players for a brand new game puck.  At least that is the approach I took for my Cornell game puck.  Much simpler than the UNH puck I have.  Caught that one between my nose and teeth and some little punk tried to run off with it.....

-John
Title: Re: Cornell-Brown
Post by: gwm3 on November 26, 2002, 12:22:23 AM
Had I not ducked and covered like a little girl, I would currently be in possession of a puck from the February 2000 Harvard at Cornell game.  :-/
Title: Re: Cornell-Brown
Post by: The Turkeybone on November 26, 2002, 12:30:53 AM
I got hit by an SLU game puck the last time the band traveled there. I think they said it was hit out by one of the McCrae's.. I just remember looking down for a piece of music, then my head was ringing -- and bleeding.. no stitches luckily :).

then my buddy who went to the women's game also got "hit" by a puck that sort of rolled up against his leg. :-P
Title: Re: Cornell-Brown
Post by: jtwcornell91 on November 26, 2002, 02:20:17 AM
When I was involved in Swiss baseball, it was a standard observation that you could tell the Americans from the Europeans by whether, when a foul ball was hit out of play, they tried to catch it or take cover.

Title: Re: Cornell-Brown
Post by: jeh25 on November 26, 2002, 08:14:08 AM
John T. Whelan '91 wrote:
QuoteWhen I was involved in Swiss baseball, it was a standard observation that you could tell the Americans from the Europeans by whether, when a foul ball was hit out of play, they tried to catch it or take cover.


So what you are trying to say is that you ducked like a little girl? :-P

Zee, not zed dammit!

Title: Re: Cornell-Brown
Post by: JohnnyB on November 26, 2002, 09:44:04 AM
I also have a Harvard game puck, but that was through a much more bizarre incident.  I was at the rink getting a jersey autographed by the whole team when Pelletier came over and tossed me a puck, a Harvard game puck.  I'm assuming he just wanted it off the ice...

-John
Title: Re: Cornell-Brown
Post by: Beeeej on November 26, 2002, 06:19:30 PM
Dude, the point is not to own a game puck.  I could have done that anytime.  The point is to own a game puck that I caught on the fly, hit from the ice during live play in a game.

And now I do.

Beeeej

Title: Re: Cornell-Brown
Post by: Ben Doyle 03 on November 26, 2002, 06:22:17 PM
Exactly. . .I have one that I caught from last years BU series at Walter Brown.:-P

Title: Re: Cornell-Brown
Post by: jtwcornell91 on November 26, 2002, 08:54:15 PM
John E Hayes '98 '00 wrote:
QuoteZee, not zed dammit!
I knew I should have written down that Canadian spelling I caught you in during the chat...

And at Swiss baseball games I was definitely an American; got to be different, you know. :-P

Title: Re: Cornell-Brown
Post by: DeltaOne81 on November 26, 2002, 11:01:22 PM
John (EH, not TW :-) ),

It was "Harbour"... I don't remember the context though :-D