It's just beginning GO RED!!!
Are you listening on the Brown feed? If so, is your feed choppy?
And we're underway!
Yes my feed is choppy
LGR!!!
power play CU
Brom penalty
apparently carefoot on the point again
Brown clears it, 1:10 left on PP
Brown scoring chance. Puck back in Brown end, stopage.
penalty killed
Cornell penalty
penalty against CU.
Even strength.
Brom gets a breakaway, but miss the net.
Now a Brown PP.
1:18 left on Brown PP
hee hee "Mike Schafer is barking at the linesmen"
I forgot how annoying these Brown guys are. Every Brown shot sounds like a goal.
brown 1 Cornell 0
Brown scores... Poli?
brown goal after bad clear
cornell on PP
Brown penalty
Cornell PP for 5 mins
Cornell gets a 5 min PP.
5 minute major and sounds like a game misconduct or DQ for a Brown player.
wtf... we are giving so many breakaways
Nash to the penalty box, moving us to 4x4 with 51 sec of Brown PP to follow
::faint:: Cornell penalty
Nash Penalty for hooking
sounds like the same team i saw last week, just without the offense..
Cornell 0 Brown 1 grrr...
Cornell penalty. 4 x 4 for a minute, then a Brown PP.
LGR
::smashfreak::
these guys have been taking fair and balanced lessons from Bill O'Reilly
To reflect the score. Folks like to just glance into the forum and check the score, and they can't if you don't change the thread title.
Mugford penalty
'nother Cornell penalty...let's hope our PK is in top form...
Another Cornell Penalty
Yes i agree...
Another Cornell Penalty.
2 minutes for being stupid?
Pleasse change yoru subject get the score right.
Are you drunk?
no why? I just really tired.
Even strength
Cornell PP
Red power play. 3:15
Edit your opening post to change the subject line. When you're viewing it, go to 'edit this post' at the bottom, in the red bar.
even strength
Big save by Brown goalie on McCutcheon shot. (according to the WHCU guys)
Brom save
Penalty on Topher
'Nother CU penalty (interference, Scott)
4th of the period (with just 40 or so seconds to go in first period, leaving us, hopefully, starting the second with significant penalty to kill.
Wow these guys are the most bitter biased announcers ever.
Another Cornell penalty
End of 1st period
End of 1.
Schafer better yell the right things.
good we are only down 1.. bad as it likely gets worse if they continue playing this poorly.. wonder what the locker room will sound like..
Has anyone else felt that we've played bad in the first period of every game so far, or at least early in the game.
[quote scannon]Has anyone else felt that we've played bad in the first period of every game so far, or at least early in the game.[/quote]
Yep.
And we're underway!
near brom goal by davenport mistake
BAck to even strength.
save by Brom
Cornell PP
Cornell gets a 5 on 2 rush, but no go.
Brown goes in the box again.
Cornell PP
Is there gametracker or livestats for this game?
GOALLL!!!!!!!
CU scores...announcer not sure who (kennedy krantz or mugford)
1-1
Cornell GOAL
There we go!
Good Cornell crowd there.
well thats good timing on got all-access workigng about 2 secs before the goal..
Cornell penalty
Greening in the box.
Anybody having trouble with the Brown feed?
Too many men on the ice against CU...we've had a few of those this year, must be the confusion of youth (or we can't count).
So, 4x4 for 40 seconds, then Brown PP.
ANOTHER PENALTY!
Romano penalty so 4x3 then 5x3 (cornell pk) coming up.
[quote Jeff Hopkins '82]Anybody having trouble with the Brown feed?[/quote]
Yes, i've lost it.
Now 4 on 3.
Nice save by davenport
4-3 Brown PP
Btw, including the exhibition against York, that's Cornell's third 'too many men' bench minor penalty this year.
CORNELL PP
So now Brown penalty...I'm confused now by the whole penalty situation... and can't offhand deconvolute what is coming up (not clear on how many seconds of each situation coming).
Signal keeps breaking up, but sounds like another Brown penalty.
[quote Jeff Hopkins '82]Anybody having trouble with the Brown feed?[/quote]
Yeah, it went down (WMP) had no connection. I restarted the link (and re-listened to the ads) and it is cutting in and out and is choppy.
Oh well, at least it is free and one can't complain too much about free stuff.
Just out of curiousity, does anyone know who scored our first goal?
4 on 4 for 15 secs. Then a Cornell PP for 29 secs.
Brown penalty
Cornell back on the PP. Brown announcers complaining about the penalties.
Justifiably so, IMO.
cool the whole first perid didnt exist according to all -access.
McCutcheon!!!!!!
Cornell Score! 2-1
Big Mac!!!!
2-1 red.
Well, the announcer at Brown said Barlow from Greening, but the radio guys (WHCU) said that didn't make any sense and Greening had just gotten a penalty so they though the announcers garbled it. According to WHCU guys Kennedy was last to touch the puck.
And another Cornell PP.
Big stop by Troy!!!
The Brown announcer is making it seem like Davenport is standing on his head...I don't actually have an idea what's happening.
In the 2nd:
Quinnipiac 6 at Union 0
St. Lawrence 0 at Dartmouth 0
Clarkson 3 at Harvard 2
Princeton 1 at RPI 3
Cornell 2 at Brown 1
Colgate 1 at Yale 0
Gallagher hurt...knee
5 minute major against Brown's Molley (sp?)
Barlow penalty
so 4x4
Brown penalty, BTW, was 5 min for "Intent to Injure"
Gallagher recovered enough to reenter game?
Well, just after face off, Mugford penalty
So, 4x3 (Brown with 4)
so much for 2 majors..
Both our penalties killed.
Brown 5 min major still in effect.
Second period ends...CU up 2-1
yep yep
oh if we just had the power play from a few yrs ago. maybe we need to recruit 2-3 kids who only can play power play... with 10-15 chances a game we never play even strength anyway..
End of 2. Still 2-1 Cornell.
The Cornell crowd sounds good. Kudos to the people who made the trip.
Underway again....
LGR!:-)
how long will it take these "smart" ivy kids to learn to not take penalties.. and most of them dont even involve the puck..
CRAP!
Tied game
Tied at 2
GOAL!!!
Cornell 3
Brown 2
score...heck yea
Cornell goal
Now 3-2 Red.
Barlow - GOAL
in other news...yale now up 2-1 on 'gate with ~15:00 to go in the 3rd
Brown penalty and te announcer ranting.
Cornell PP
cornell pp
So, why can't we have a power play, without nearly immediately going into the box ourselves?
Sigh, we're officially 1-10 on PP so far, and decided that 4x4 was better than 5x4 apparently.
Oh, nevermind, "too many men" against Brown... so 4x3 (CU) 16 sec, then 49 sec of 4x4, then 5x4 CU for 55 sec or so.
Sawada out of the box and Krantz goes right in.
Careful don't hit him...It might be a penalty.
Priceless.
WHCU announcers saying that the penalties, despite the great number of them are "not completely unreasonable". Meaning, as far as I understood them, that at least there was contact on the penalties (not necessarily a lot of contact, but contact).
On an aside, I can't remember many games with 5 minute majors not related to fighting. Certainly, I can't remember very many with 2 majors not fighting related.
Cornell on PP # 12.
at this point how can either team complain.. more than enough time to stop making the mistake of contact away from the puck..
And a Cornell Penalty
And another one on Brown
Matching minors (Nash-hooking, Rue-diving).
So, still 5x4 CU
How much time is left?
8:00 left
6 and a half minutes left
5:30 left
The Brown announcer is having a nervous break down. It's fun to listen to him rant.
Another Brown PP. The Brown announcer even said it was a lousy call.
WHOA thats 90 penalty minutes called so far
who are the reffs?
2:43 left
Riley appears to be the one calling all the penalties.
final score from new haven....yale 2 - colgate 1. they are really proving themselves worthy, albeit very early in the season.
2:30 left
who are the reff?
1:09 left. Brown on the PP.
yeehaw...game over we win
Cornell wins
Can't say it was a good night for us though.
3-2 final. lucky we didn't lose by the hand of the reffs
Winning on the road equals a good night.
Any update on the Yale/'gate game??
Yale won, 2-1.
yale-2
Gate-1
who were the reffs?
[quote mhand06]who were the reffs?[/quote]
Hansen, Scott was the ref.
http://www.collegehockeystats.net/0607/boxes/mclgyal1.n03
So far...
Cornell defeats Brown 3-2
Yale defeats Colgate 2-1
Clarkson beats sucks 5-2
Q defeats union 8-2
SLUts beat dartmouth 2-1 OT
RPI eeks by princeton 4-3 OT
Admittedly, I only started listening from the middle of the second period...and the feed was off almost as much as it was on, but I loved it. Yes, he was a homer, but he was passionate, and he was really creative in ripping the ref. I especially liked the post-game summary slamming the ref for ruining the game, and telling the ECAC to listen to the game and never let the guy work another game again.
[quote Chris '03][quote mhand06]who were the reffs?[/quote]
Hansen, Scott was the ref.
http://www.collegehockeystats.net/0607/boxes/mclgyal1.n03[/quote]
hahaha
is anyone suprised by this?
Did anyone pik up scorers and/or assists?
I stopped understanding the feed somewhere around the 2nd period.
[quote evilnaturedrobot][quote Chris '03][quote mhand06]who were the reffs?[/quote]
Hansen, Scott was the ref.
http://www.collegehockeystats.net/0607/boxes/mclgyal1.n03[/quote]
hahaha
is anyone suprised by this?[/quote]
Surprised that Mr, Salt Lake City Olympics did the Yale/gate game? No... but I hadn't given it any thought.
[quote scannon]Did anyone pik up scorers and/or assists?
I stopped understanding the feed somewhere around the 2nd period.[/quote]
Box here (http://www.collegehockeystats.net/0607/boxes/mbrncor1.n03).
Evan Barlow (1) (Doug Krantz)
Raymond Sawada (1) (Mark McCutcheon)
Evan Barlow (2) (Doug Krantz, Tony Romano)
i believe it was Barlow, McCutcheon, Barlow with the goals
Apparently the Bruno penalty at the end was 5&10 for butt-ending. 99 PIMs all tolled. http://www.collegehockeystats.net/0607/boxes/mbrncor1.n03
Two weird things:
1. the Bitz double minor was for holding and checking from behind?
2. Check out the second linesman's name.
I feel bad for Brown's Todd Johnson, who spent 12 minutes in the penalty box and didn't commit a penalty in the game (he served two of the three Brown majors and the Brown too many men on the ice).
Just got home from the game... I dont know how it came across on the radio, but the officiating was simply horrendous. Words cannot describe its suckitude sufficiently. After a fairly quiet 1st period (just the single major that was important) I was going to say that I was suprised how penalty free the game was shaping up and then the 2nd and 3rd were almost a non-stop penalty fest. The double minor was particularly silly and Cornell losing half of the major to a 4-3 man down with two almost simultaneous minors was equally as bad.
those coaches were probably fighting each other to have first shot at the officiating crew, Cornell was lucky to come away with the win. these are the wons though that come March might be the difference in getting a decent seed and a bye and being on the bubble and on the road for the playoffs, I will take it.
Brown really impressed me on their PP, very crisp passing... either our PK was equally good or they just cant shoot. Our goalie came up big at several times in the waning minutes (in no small part due to some weak calls putting Brown on the PP)
Although disappointed in the quality of play and chemistry, it is early in the season and they didnt play much 5v5... I think the coaching staff will have things in good shape by the Florida tournament and this team could do some damage in the ECAC tournament barring injury... Harvard's slow start must be encouraging, although the Q's ability to put up 8 goals should raise soem eyebrows
[quote nshapiro]Admittedly, I only started listening from the middle of the second period...and the feed was off almost as much as it was on, but I loved it. Yes, he was a homer, but he was passionate, and he was really creative in ripping the ref. I especially liked the post-game summary slamming the ref for ruining the game, and telling the ECAC to listen to the game and never let the guy work another game again.[/quote]
Yeah...but those Brown radio guys say that exact thing every game I've ever had to listen to them. I'm not exaggerating...every game I've heard them do, they call for a tape of the game to be sent to the league office so the refs can get the firing they deserve. Another favorite is challenging the officials to take off the zebra jersey to show off the Cornell jersey and pom-poms they're obviously wearing underneath. I've grown to accept that they don't know a flying flip about hockey, and think that screaming bloody murder every time a Brown player is touched is part of the attraction. I'm sure it's entertaining when listening to a game you don't care about. Anyway...laughable homers.
I had a fun time at the game...the CU crowd probably sounded good for several reasons: 1) we were huge. 2) they moved the visitors section and GA to the side with the press box. I'm sure we were right beneath the broadcast mic.
All-in-all, an abnormal Meehan experience: no little kids came over to bug us, both bands were on the same side of the ice, and the "Cornell-Brown annual Melee at Meehan sponsored by Roger Grillo" never happened. No fisticuffs or cheap shots (other than the butt-ending at the final buzzer) to speak of. Probably the cleanest game I've seen at Brown.
It's late, so I'll get to my thoughts on the game play and officiating tomorrow. Feels good to be back in hockey mode!
Schafer is now 18-2-3 lifetime (http://www.tbrw.info/weeklyUpdates/schaferOppsECAC.html) in RS games against Brown.
[quote RichH]
Yeah...but those Brown radio guys say that exact thing every game I've ever had to listen to them. I'm not exaggerating...every game I've heard them do, they call for a tape of the game to be sent to the league office so the refs can get the firing they deserve.[/quote]
You're absolutely right there. The first couple times I heard them call a game it was kind of amusing. Now their shtick is just boring. I'm surprised even home fans can stand to listen to that game after game. At least this year they were going on about how the ECAC instructed the refs to make sure Cornell won which they've done in the past.
[quote RichH]I had a fun time at the game...the CU crowd probably sounded good for several reasons: 1) we were huge. 2) they moved the visitors section and GA to the side with the press box. I'm sure we were right beneath the broadcast mic.[/quote]
You all sounded great on the Cornell feed. The Brown guys sounded like they were broadcasting from inside a refrigerator with the door closed. For awhile I was listening to both feeds simultaneously and the difference was pronounced. No idea why though.
[quote evilnaturedrobot][quote Chris '03][quote mhand06]who were the reffs?[/quote]
Hansen, Scott was the ref.
http://www.collegehockeystats.net/0607/boxes/mclgyal1.n03[/quote]
hahaha
is anyone suprised by this?[/quote]
I'm lost!?!
Surprised that Hansen still has a job?
Surprised that collegehockeystats has the box?
Surprised that Colgate and Yale have proven the relative usefulness of the preseason polls?
Are you sure about Hasen? USCHO has it different.
http://www.uscho.com/box/?date=20061103&vis=cor&home=bn&gender=m
Granted whoever it was was terrible...but let's give criticism where it's due
So at times we all have Red tinted glasses on, but that officiating was hands down the worst preformance ever. No flow what so ever in the game. If one team was called for an infraction it was almost a garauntee that the other was getting whistled within 30 seconds. To Riley's credit, he called it both ways ::scream::
However, some of the penalties were going too far. The hooking/diving should've been one way or the other, Bitz's first of the double minor penalties was a clean check, the second I can agree with, and Krantz's shoulder on the near breakaway was a clean play as well. A lot of Brown's penalties came behind the play so I didn't really see whether or not they were legit.
What it amounted to was a pretty ugly game. Like I said, there was no flow at all and I can't remember a single good body check. The players were afraid to be physical at all, and it was leading to a lot of frustration by both sides.
As for the game, Cornell looked good off the rush, but that led to a lot of Brown rushes back the other way. PP looked pretty ugly too, as well as our man down line changing. There were at least two near breaks because of sloppy line changing. Easily the number one star for Cornell was Troy Davenport. He made save after save when Cornell needed it, and these weren't your lazy point shots either. There were a lot of in close, quality scoring chances that Troy was able to keep from the back of the net. He is the number one reason they were able to win that game last night.
The WHCU announcers called him "Riley" all night, also, so that is probably who it was. Can't recall having seen him officiate before.
Jeez. I do miss the days of names on the back of ref jerseys. Made it easier for those of us with no ability to pair names and faces.
There is a level of penalty calling that lends itself to clean, but fast, relatively unimpeded games. Refs seem to have trouble finding that level and either call every little thing (thus bogging the game down and making play stilted and awkward), or they call nothing and the play gets uglier and uglier, people get hurt and fights break out. There are, of course, combinations of this style...the most common being: call nothing, suddenly notice that things are getting vicious, then suddenly clamp down for a little bit calling every touch. Incredibly difficult for the players to adjust.
I only listened to the Brown game (didn't see it with my own two eyes), but the impression I got was that it was called fairly, but way too tightly.
CK
[quote BigRedIslander '03]Are you sure about Hasen? USCHO has it different.
http://www.uscho.com/box/?date=20061103&vis=cor&home=bn&gender=m
Granted whoever it was was terrible...but let's give criticism where it's due[/quote]
The person asking was askinag about the Cornell/Brown game. The person who answered answered about the Yale/Colgate game, as you can see from their link.