Cornell Lacrosse at Army 4/15/23

billhoward
Individual game threads would be good. It might clutter the forum with additional threads but by season's end they'll drop to the second page so, no harm done.

Done. Agree it makes everything easier. Who's going? I'll be there with both sons. Three laxalums. Although the younger one played for Yale

Maybe the most annoying play-by-play guy ever.

And another camera person who is less than competent.

Mikey Long is having a great first quarter!

That apparently same ESPN cameraperson continues to search for the lacrosse ball.

Al DeFlorio
Maybe the most annoying play-by-play guy ever.

Grateful for the mute button!
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Very exciting first quarter! Army has a good defense. They swarm, so Cornell needs to keep moving the ball and finding the good shot.

That announcer has listened to too many play-by-play guys from the 1950s.

Beautiful dish by CJ.

The color guy remembers Seabiscuit. Appreciate that.

Offense struggling to get good shots. Army picking on the shorties. Now 4-4.

Tied 4-4. Good pass by Army for a score. Also, they've scored twice coming from the X coming from behind and scoring from the 5X5 on Ierlan's left. That move has hurt us quite a few times this year. We need to play tighter over there.

5-4 Cornell. Nice work by Long finding the (really) open player in front of the crease. In the past, players have become frustrated right about now and started trying to win the game on their own. Let's hope they stay with team ball.

5-5. Box badly beaten with shortie on shortie. No help.

As expected, a tough, hard-fought game. I don't see any superstars on Army's team but they play together on offense and defense.

I'm at the game so I'm spared the pbp guy. Army is defensively stout and we're having no luck beating their guys. Both goalies solid. Time to strap it up for 2nd half.

Pbo guy is bananas but pretty balanced in his yelling. What’s with all the obscure Cornell references. He just discussed Zincks

Pbp that is

Too many turnovers

Piatelli in for Long

Forcing passes into heavy traffic

6-5 Cornell. Army lost Sheehan and Billy Coyle found him on the crease. Great pass!

Cornell slides are now coming hard and fast. Love it.

7-5. love the army pbp guy. cameraman is ... not very good at following the action.

7-5 Cornell. Shot by Chris Davis from the top in an unsettled situation.

scoop85
I'm at the game so I'm spared the pbp guy. Army is defensively stout and we're having no luck beating their guys. Both goalies solid. Time to strap it up for 2nd half.

Looks like a great crowd!

Cornell is spreading out the offense now and getting some good looks.

7-6 Cornell. Army scores on an EMO, step down from the top. Kirst ran into an Army guy in the back.

7-6 end of the third.

Very exciting lacrosse. Ierlan is playing a terrific game.

I'm convinced the cameraperson is related to an ESPN executive.

8-6 Cornell. EMO for a push in the back. A pass to the crease attack Rory Graham and score.

8-6 was an incredibly quick release on a great feed that I thought was a useless throw into a clogged area. Shows what I know!

9-6 Cornell. Wortheim with a face dodge from the 5X5 and a score.

Great move by Wirtheim puts Red up by 3

9-7. Army score on an EMO, step down from the top of the zone. The penalty was a probably an unnecessary roughness on Cascadden pushing someone out of bounds. That's twice he has done that, but I like that's he's a hard player.

It's starting to rain. The pockets will be affected a little bit, so we might see more errant passes.

Two Army EMO goals loom big

Last call was suspect

My ESPN feed is out.

Power outage at Michie

Fill in army joke here

Are they playing? Can someone post scores since there is no feed????

arugula
Fill in army joke here

Ha ha!

Live stats still 9:03 left

Clocks now out? Play stopped?

Live stats has been at 9:03 for over 5 minutes....

dag14
Are they playing? Can someone post scores since there is no feed????

Please???!!!

Now 9-8 with 8 mins left

Thank's Brandon! Whataya doing in Ireland instead of watching Ierlan!

According to a poster on Laxpower, they have stopped play and someone mentioned the possibility of thunder.

Live stats back up at 8:21 showing the 9-8 score so not sure exactly what is going on.

9-9

9-9 at 8:08

9-10!

We seriously are losing? Smh

Losing all faceoffs

Kelleher shot saved

Long ties it, 3:32 remaining

10-10 at 3:32

and we won the faceoff

Thanks dag14!

shot clock violation at 2:00

Cornell shot clock violation

Save Ierlan

Cornell timeout 1:11

Cornell TO at 1:11

11-10 Red

Whew!

Is it over? We won???

I imagine a thrilling ending we will never see.

Al DeFlorio
11-10 Red

Thank you, Al!

Blake from Coyle

Huge win. Thanks to everyone there who gave us updates!

nshapiro
I imagine a thrilling ending we will never see.

Yes, that's unfortunate. But it's good to see that the team is really coming along. We need hard games like this right now. We are almost where we want to be going into the tournament.

Blake from Coyle

Cornell wins 11-10 in regulation after power goes out.@IvyLeague @NCAALAX @CornellLacrosse @espn pic.twitter.com/AsVIbnsS3N

— Byron Brown (@DocBrown315) April 15, 2023

?s=20

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Moved the ball. Found the doorstep for the win. Excellent work by this team.

Army fell asleep there. Army will be disappointed but they should feel good knowing they are ready for the tournament also.

Big mistake by Army #33 who ran away from Blake after Blake fell down, then forgot all about him.

nyc94

Cornell wins 11-10 in regulation after power goes out.@IvyLeague @NCAALAX @CornellLacrosse @espn pic.twitter.com/AsVIbnsS3N

— Byron Brown (@DocBrown315) April 15, 2023

?s=20

Nice crowd.

Unfortunately it looks like we will never get to see the end of this game unless someone has access to a video feed other than ESPN+. The game appears in the "on demand" section but the end of the stream is the same as we enjoyed live.

CU77
Big mistake by Army #33 who ran away from Blake after Blake fell down, then forgot all about him.

Falling down was how Coach B drew up the play in practice this week.

Watching this score in slow motion is watching a thing of beauty. I don’t know how much was planned and how much was extemporaneous, but either way, it speaks volumes for how our team is coached.

Blake initially draws two defenders and passes to Kelleher. Blake is now open and signals for the ball, but Kelleher instead passes to Coyle, further drawing defenders away from Blake. Meanwhile, CJ, who doesn’t get a goal all afternoon, is busy drawing a double-team. Coyle passes to the wide-open Blake and the goalie reacts, so Blake dives and shoots it low and away from the goalie’s stick. Amazing play from beginning to end. Too bad ESPN+ missed this, but thankfully someone else captured it on their camera.
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George64
Watching this score in slow motion is watching a thing of beauty. I don’t know how much was planned and how much was extemporaneous, but either way, it speaks volumes for how our team is coached.

Blake initially draws two defenders and passes to Kelleher. Blake is now open and signals for the ball, but Kelleher instead passes to Coyle, further drawing defenders away from Blake. Meanwhile, CJ, who doesn’t get a goal all afternoon, is busy drawing a double-team. Coyle passes to the wide-open Blake and the goalie reacts, so Blake dives and shoots it low and away from the goalie’s stick. Amazing play from beginning to end. Too bad ESPN+ missed this, but thankfully someone else captured it on their camera.
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Absolutely. Byron Brown is a better cameraperson than the cameraperson.

I agree. I like that CJ was moving back and forth drawing the defenders and looking to pass, not score. Coyle showed terrific vision to see Blake. He took a couple of steps forward to clear a lane for the pass and hit it perfectly.

Dag14, we'll never see all the 4th quarter. It will be like the 2022 Penn State game. It lives only in the minds of the few, those happy few, that band of Cornell fans who were actually there.

mike1960

George64
It will be like the 2022 Penn State game. It lives only in the minds of the few, those happy few, that band of Cornell fans who were actually there.

I'd bet there are coach's tapes that would have a great high view from the press box side. Hopefully somethig will show up from the SID or on Youtube.

 

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"Yo Paulie - I don't see no crowd gathering 'round you neither."

Here's a link to the Inside Lacrosse recap of the game. Some good quotes here. Coach Buczek called Blake's position next to the goal the "bagpipe." I've never heard that term before.

Edit: Maybe Coach Buczek was saying "back pipe" and it was misheard.

[www.insidelacrosse.com]

Yes, I'm assuming he said back pipe

mike1960
Here's a link to the Inside Lacrosse recap of the game. Some good quotes here. Coach Buczek called Blake's position next to the goal the "bagpipe." I've never heard that term before.

Edit: Maybe Coach Buczek was saying "back pipe" and it was misheard.

[www.insidelacrosse.com]

I think you're right. To put the term in context, the surrounding text from quoting Buczek is "and then Aiden opened up on the bagpipe and a great treat by Billy.”

Yummm.

I have not been able to find an attendance report for yesterday's game. That was quite a large crowd at Michie which remains one of the greatest sports venues in the world. Until the plug is pulled out on the electricity for the place

woodpile
I have not been able to find an attendance report for yesterday's game. That was quite a large crowd at Michie which remains one of the greatest sports venues in the world. Until the plug is pulled out on the electricity for the place

The official attendance was just over 4,000, but I know several people whose digital tickets weren’t scanned. I’m guessing there were a good 6,000-7,000 in attendance.

scoop85

woodpile
I have not been able to find an attendance report for yesterday's game. That was quite a large crowd at Michie which remains one of the greatest sports venues in the world. Until the plug is pulled out on the electricity for the place

The official attendance was just over 4,000, but I know several people whose digital tickets weren’t scanned. I’m guessing there were a good 6,000-7,000 in attendance.

Do they publish statistics on tickets sold as well as tickets scanned?

Swampy

scoop85

woodpile
I have not been able to find an attendance report for yesterday's game. That was quite a large crowd at Michie which remains one of the greatest sports venues in the world. Until the plug is pulled out on the electricity for the place

The official attendance was just over 4,000, but I know several people whose digital tickets weren’t scanned. I’m guessing there were a good 6,000-7,000 in attendance.

Do they publish statistics on tickets sold as well as tickets scanned?

That I don’t know

George64
Blake initially draws two defenders and passes to Kelleher. Blake is now open and signals for the ball, but Kelleher instead passes to Coyle, further drawing defenders away from Blake. Meanwhile, CJ, who doesn’t get a goal all afternoon, is busy drawing a double-team. Coyle passes to the wide-open Blake and the goalie reacts, so Blake dives and shoots it low and away from the goalie’s stick. Amazing play from beginning to end.

Further detail: Coyle is at X for shot back-up when Blake initiates his run and ends up falling down at GLE, passing to Kelleher on the far side. Coyle sees all this, and moves from X to up front on Kelleher's side. So Coyle knows where Blake is. I don't think Kelleher saw Blake before passing to Coyle. Happily, the Army D completely forgets about Blake, and Coyle passes to him, wide open on the doorstep. Good lax IQ by both Coyle and Blake (though I didn't love Blake's initial dodge).

Swampy

scoop85

woodpile
I have not been able to find an attendance report for yesterday's game. That was quite a large crowd at Michie which remains one of the greatest sports venues in the world. Until the plug is pulled out on the electricity for the place

The official attendance was just over 4,000, but I know several people whose digital tickets weren’t scanned. I’m guessing there were a good 6,000-7,000 in attendance.

Do they publish statistics on tickets sold as well as tickets scanned?

The stadium or arena knows all, not just how many entered the arena bur also including the flow rate into the stadium 120, 60, 30, 15 etcetera minutes before, which gates are more heavily trafficked versus other events, etcetera.

Concessionaires at a place where they're selling $15 Bud Lights and $200 replica jerseys want to know how many people are actually in the arena. If actual physical attendance is 15,000 plus another 2,000 people bought tickets but no-showed, vendors are pissed to be told attendance was 17,000. They might know if a disproportionate number of luxury suite people came or stayed home. All this could be the case with really bad weather or the final weeks of a pro team's last-place season.

All this metrics and tracking stuff helped me out once: We went on a church or Scouts group plan -- X dollars for seat, hot dog, beer (so maybe it wasn't a Scouting event; if it was, that's the troop I wish I joined) and it was also college-students-welcome-home (Wednesday night) for Thanksgiving. We asked two Prudential people where to get the drink/food coupon and both said, Never heard of this deal, tonight is College Night. Then halfway through the first period, somebody from the Devils promotions group found us in our seats, said he's sorry we didn't pick up your food/drink coupons, and here they are. This was just after Brodeur retired so maybe they had to work harder to keep fans coming back.

Has anybody ever asked how Cornell counts attendance? I never in my four years with the the Daily Sun thought to ask that. But that was the era when attendance at Game 1, Game 2, etcetera was 3836, 3836, 3836. (Actually, it could have varied a bit with standing room, which kind of went away with the rink expansion.

I would think Cornell has 2 attendances for lynah .. They know tickets sold and they know tickets scanned. As to how many others get in unscanned it probably varies.

Attendance figures at a lot of these events is suspect. Yale lacrosse, for example, encourages you to buy your tickets online. When I got to the game Saturday, the scanner couldn't pick up the code for my ticket off my phone, so the attendant just had me show him the date on the ticket and then waved me in. So my presence was never acknowledged in the official attendance, unless Yale was just tracking by tickets sold. But since Yale students get in for free, that wouldn't give them an accurate attendance figure either.

dbilmes
Attendance figures at a lot of these events is suspect. Yale lacrosse, for example, encourages you to buy your tickets online. When I got to the game Saturday, the scanner couldn't pick up the code for my ticket off my phone, so the attendant just had me show him the date on the ticket and then waved me in. So my presence was never acknowledged in the official attendance, unless Yale was just tracking by tickets sold. But since Yale students get in for free, that wouldn't give them an accurate attendance figure either.

Should be easy to do several images of the stands over the course of the game, recognize the number of people, and get a reasonable (10% margin of error? 5%?) attendee count. Make sure each game captures at the same points in the game.