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Cornell lacrosse 2023

Posted by mike1960 
Cornell lacrosse 2023
Posted by: mike1960 (---.wi.res.rr.com)
Date: June 13, 2022 12:36PM

Hey Bill Howard, I think it’s time to start the new thread!
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2023
Posted by: billhoward (---.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net)
Date: June 13, 2022 01:38PM

Thanks for starting. (I was waiting for the excitement to die down over UConn vs Cornell at MSG.) Always nice to put the 2023 schedule in that first post, then a link to the pre-season polls, pre-season All-Americas, yada yada. Stuff readers would like to see w/o scrolling. I think you know the trick for monospaced fonts that let the schedule line up easily type the word code inside brackets to start and /code inside brackets to end that block.

It never hurts to change the subject line to "Cornell lacrosse 2023 - Hobart 2/13" for ease of scrolling down and finding something. Yeah, I'm a Type-A, just no heart attack, yet.

I know if mine had a subject line, "Team of Destiny Part Deux," (tho not in caps), I'd be accused of woofing.
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2023
Posted by: Swampy (---.ri.ri.cox.net)
Date: June 13, 2022 04:41PM

billhoward
Thanks for starting. (I was waiting for the excitement to die down over UConn vs Cornell at MSG.) Always nice to put the 2023 schedule in that first post, then a link to the pre-season polls, pre-season All-Americas, yada yada. Stuff readers would like to see w/o scrolling. I think you know the trick for monospaced fonts that let the schedule line up easily type the word code inside brackets to start and /code inside brackets to end that block.

It never hurts to change the subject line to "Cornell lacrosse 2023 - Hobart 2/13" for ease of scrolling down and finding something. Yeah, I'm a Type-A, just no heart attack, yet.

I know if mine had a subject line, "Team of Destiny Part Deux," (tho not in caps), I'd be accused of woofing.

I think given:

* the quality of the incoming class(es)
* the quality of the players returning (including Adler, Ierlan, etc.)
* the tremendous coaching by the Buczek/Stevens tag-team
* the showing against Maryland

A lot of us are silently thinking, "Team of Destiny (sooner rather than later)"
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2023
Posted by: mike1960 (---.wi.res.rr.com)
Date: June 13, 2022 04:55PM

I’m sorry, Bill. I meant to add that post to the old thread so you would be the thread creator, as is the tradition.

But yes I think we can already start talking about how good this team can be with a great group returning and lots of experience in playoff lacrosse.
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2023
Posted by: billhoward (---.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net)
Date: June 13, 2022 09:27PM

We've had so many good coaches who moved Cornell a couple rungs up the ladder then found greener pastures elsewhere. Conner Buczek could be the Mike Schafer of Cornell Lacrosse we've been hoping for since, ah, just about forever, since only Ben DeLuca '98 was also a Cornell alum.

Let's see how good the entering class is. A lot of first-years aren't quite as good as their HS stats. But: Did anybody expect Kirst to punch in 55 goals his first season?
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2023
Posted by: mike1960 (---.wi.res.rr.com)
Date: June 21, 2022 11:30PM

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Re: Cornell lacrosse 2023
Posted by: CAS (---.hsd1.nj.comcast.net)
Date: June 23, 2022 09:32AM

Ben Abladian was NEC rookie of the year as a frosh & scored 42 goals as a soph.
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2023
Posted by: George64 (---.rochester.res.rr.com)
Date: June 23, 2022 11:31AM

mike1960
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Abladian sounds like the real deal. LGR
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Re: Cornell lacrosse 2023
Posted by: billhoward (185.195.59.---)
Date: June 27, 2022 04:34PM

Bryant, ex-Duke, lacrosse coach Mike Pressler retired this spring. [www.insidelacrosse.com]

Pressler was at Bryant 16 years (time flies), in 2014 got Bryant to the NCAA quarterfinals. Note from Bryan PR: Bryant named "associate head coach Casey Brodersen the interim head coach and a national search for the next head coach who will build on Coach Pressler's success and take Bulldog Lacrosse to the next level will begin immediately. Brodersen completed his 12th season as a member of Pressler's staff in 2022. He has spent the last eight years as the associate head coach." Not quite the rapid career trajectory of former Cornell interim coach Buczek.
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2023
Posted by: mike1960 (94.140.9.---)
Date: July 13, 2022 12:05AM

Not Cornell lacrosse 2023, but some Jeff Teat action.

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Re: Cornell lacrosse 2023
Posted by: upprdeck (38.77.26.---)
Date: July 13, 2022 09:21AM

so they have no faceoffs in this thing after goals.. more like bball just get it and go..
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2023
Posted by: Ken711 (---.washdc.fios.verizon.net)
Date: July 14, 2022 09:11AM

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Re: Cornell lacrosse 2023
Posted by: George64 (---.rochester.res.rr.com)
Date: July 14, 2022 12:59PM


I see commit Matt Tully β€˜27 is wearing a chest protector. Did lax players wear them when the late George Boiardi β€˜04 was playing? For those too young to remember, Boiardi was hit in the chest by a ball at the wrong instant, causing a fatal heart arrhythmia.
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Re: Cornell lacrosse 2023
Posted by: Swampy (---.ri.ri.cox.net)
Date: July 14, 2022 03:48PM

George64

I see commit Matt Tully β€˜27 is wearing a chest protector. Did lax players wear them when the late George Boiardi β€˜04 was playing? For those too young to remember, Boiardi was hit in the chest by a ball at the wrong instant, causing a fatal heart arrhythmia.
.

When I played club lacrosse during the early 70s, I never heard of such things, except for goalies. We routinely wore arm protectors and gloves, but not chest protectors. I believe the advent of synthetic heads on lacrosse sticks made shots & passes much faster, and therefore somewhat lethal (as in the tragic case of GB21). So, I would not be surprised if chest protectors have become more common.

But shoulder pads were also very uncommon, and now I notice many players wearing them. And I'm shocked at how few players wear arm protectors these days.
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2023
Posted by: dag14 (---.hsd1.co.comcast.net)
Date: July 15, 2022 12:46PM

My kids played high school lacrosse from about 1996-2005 and only the goalies wore chest protectors. I am pretty sure most guys wore shoulder pads but they were dinky compared to those used in hockey.
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2023
Posted by: mike1960 (---.wi.res.rr.com)
Date: July 21, 2022 08:30PM

Good rule change. It was unfair that a defensive player could shove an offensive player in the back and into the crease to negate a goal scoring opportunity.

[www.usalaxmagazine.com]

In men's lacrosse, a goal scored while the offensive player is propelled into the crease/goal mouth due to illegal contact by the defender will count, starting with the 2023 season.

The NCAA Playing Rules Oversight Panel approved the new rule during a conference call Wednesday.
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2023
Posted by: Swampy (---.ri.ri.cox.net)
Date: August 17, 2022 03:31PM

Re: Cornell lacrosse 2023
Posted by: Ken711 (---.clppva.fios.verizon.net)
Date: August 17, 2022 08:18PM

Buczek Names 14 to 2023 Recruiting Class.

Cornell Recruiting Class
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2023
Posted by: George64 (---.rochester.res.rr.com)
Date: August 18, 2022 08:38AM

Ken711
Buczek Names 14 to 2023 Recruiting Class.

Lax recruit Eddie Rayhill is the brother of Jimmy, listed on the hockey roster.
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Re: Cornell lacrosse 2023
Posted by: CAS (---.hsd1.nj.comcast.net)
Date: August 21, 2022 09:40AM

CJ Kirst with 5 goals named MVP in US gold- medal win in U-21 tourney.
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2023
Posted by: Al DeFlorio (---.hsd1.ma.comcast.net)
Date: August 21, 2022 10:38AM

CAS
CJ Kirst with 5 goals named MVP in US gold- medal win in U-21 tourney.
CJ added to the team after putting up seven against USA coach Nick Myers's Ohio State team in the NCAAs.

 
___________________________
Al DeFlorio '65
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2023
Posted by: Cop at Lynah (---.stny.res.rr.com)
Date: August 22, 2022 04:31PM

According to InsideLacrosse.com Maryland and CU rematch this fall
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2023
Posted by: George64 (---.rochester.res.rr.com)
Date: August 22, 2022 05:16PM

Rematch with Maryland should be interesting. Almost through reading We Showed Baltimore. Just yesterday, I read about our rematch with Johns Hopkins at Homewood Field following our 1977 championship win over the Blue Jays.
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Re: Cornell lacrosse 2023
Posted by: billhoward (---.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net)
Date: August 28, 2022 02:29PM

Ken711
Buczek Names 14 to 2023 Recruiting Class.
Cornell Recruiting Class
Incoming Cornell players all sound fantastic. But: None are in the Inside Lacrosse top 10 (Harvard is the only Ivy, with Adam Blind, #6, goalie.)
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2023
Posted by: Chris H82 (---.res.spectrum.com)
Date: August 28, 2022 11:56PM

billhoward
Ken711
Buczek Names 14 to 2023 Recruiting Class.
Cornell Recruiting Class
Incoming Cornell players all sound fantastic. But: None are in the Inside Lacrosse top 10 (Harvard is the only Ivy, with Adam Blind, #6, goalie.)

Too bad he's not their hockey goalie - the Lynah Faithful would have lots of fun with that name
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2023 - CU recruits rank vs top schools
Posted by: billhoward (---.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net)
Date: August 30, 2022 06:38PM

These are the IL Cornell-recruit rankings HS Class of '22 combined with Cornell's notes on its 14 incoming players. Five stars is the highest. Cornell's lone five-star is a FOGO. If you only have one, best when it's a faceoff guy or goalkeeper. Unless your name is Teat or Pannell.

[Rating per Inside Lacrosse:] FIVE STARS

[Cornell info:] Jack Cascadden – FO/Midfield – 6-3 – 220
Garden City, N.Y. (Garden City School
)
Prior to Cornell
β€’ As captain, led his team to a state championship title in 2022.
β€’ Was named a USA Lacrosse All-American.
β€’ Two-sport athlete in lacrosse and football.
β€’ Throp Award Winner for most outstanding football player in Nassau County.
[Separate IL note: "Cascadden’s coming out party took place during a dominant campaign at the Juniors Open, though he didn’t stop there. With a 6-3 frame and strong stick skills, he’s also capable of playing offense or defense, which is no surprise given his athleticism and football prowess."]
[Cascadden is not listed as a football recruit on Cornell's Class of 2026 list ]

FOUR STARS
Brendan Staub – LSM/Defense – 6-1 – 210

Garden City, N.Y. (Garden City HS)
Prior to Cornell
β€’ As captain, led his team to a state championship in 2022.
β€’ Named a two-time USA Lacrosse All-American and All-Academic.
β€’ Named Best Player in Nassau County by Nassau County Lacrosse Coaches Association.
β€’ 2022 James C. Metzger MVP Lacrosse awardee.

Joseph "JK" Kelly – Defense – 5-10 – 185
Lutherville, Md. (Calvert Hall College HS)

Prior to Cornell
β€’ Senior year captain for Calvert Hall.
β€’ Two-sport athlete in lacrosse and football.
β€’ Played with the club team Fellowship of Christian Athletes (FCA) Lacrosse.
β€’ Son of Frank Kelly '86, who was a lacrosse and football player during his years with the Big Red.

Charlie Box – Midfield – 5-8 – 170
Broomall, Pa. (Marple Newtown High School)

Prior to Cornell
β€’ First All-Delco player for Marple Newtown HS since 2003.
β€’ As a 2022 captain, led his team to its first-ever state championship.
β€’ USA Lacrosse All-American.
β€’ Two-time USA Lacrosse All-Academic team.

Brady Auker – LSM/Defense – 5-10 – 170
Larchmont, N.Y. (Mamaroneck HS)

Prior to Cornell
β€’ Two-time USA Lacrosse All-American.
β€’ 2022 winner of the USA Lacrosse Bob Scott Award.
β€’ Led the 2022 team as captain and was named the team defensive MVP.
β€’ 2019 New York state semifinalist.

THREE STARS

Ethan Ruller – Goalie – 5-11 – 172
Webster, N.Y. (Webster Thomas HS)

Prior to Cornell
β€’ 2021 USA Lacrosse All-American.
β€’ 2021 All-Greater Rochester Player of the Year.
β€’ Served as team captain in 2019 and 2021.
β€’ Led 2021 team to a Section V Class B Championship.
β€’ Played at Westminster Prep for the 2021-22 season.

Bowie Horsman – Attack – 6-3 – 165
Brampton, Ontario (The Hill Academy)

Prior to Cornell
β€’ Served as the 2022 senior captain for The Hill Academy.
β€’ 2022 Pride Award recipient at The Hill.
β€’ Served as assistant captain for the Brampton Excelsiors Junior A squad in 2022.
β€’ Notched 19 goals and 36 assists in his senior season.

Edward Rayhill – Defense – 6-0 – 190
New Hartford, N.Y. (The Frederick Gunn School)

Prior to Cornell
β€’ 2022 USA Lacrosse All-American.
β€’ Two-time captain.
β€’ Led 2022 team to the conference championship.
β€’ Played club lacrosse with Orange Crush.
β€’ Three-time underclass UnderArmour All-American.

Matthew Dooley – Defense – 6-4 – 200
Sudbury, Mass. (Salisbury School)

Prior to Cornell
β€’ USA Lacrosse All-American.
β€’ Named an EMCLA first team All-American.
β€’ Served as captain in his senior year.
β€’ Two-time Metrowest Daily News all-star

Brian Jackman
(Midfielder from St. Thomas Aquinas Catholic Secondary School. On IL list of 3-star commits to Cornell. Not on Cornell list of fall 2022 incoming players. Anybody have info?)


OTHER INCOMING CORNELL FALL 2022 PLAYERS. Not on IL 3-, 4-, or 5-star lists.

Ben Abladian – Attack – 5-9 – 185

Londonderry, N.H. (Bishop Guertin HS/Bryant University)
Prior to Cornell
β€’ Transfer from Bryant University.
β€’ 2021 NEC Rookie of the Year.
β€’ Scored 42 goals and notched five assists across 15 games in 2022.
β€’ Two-time underclass UnderArmour All-American at Bishop Guertin HS.
β€’ USA Lacrosse All-American.

Brian Luzzi – Attack – 5-11 – 175
Bethpage, N.Y. (Bethpage HS)
Prior to Cornell
β€’ 2022 USA Lacrosse All-American.
β€’ 2021 USA Lacrosse All-America honorable mention.
β€’ Two-time all-county.
β€’ Was named all-state in 2021

Griffin McGovern – Midfield – 5-10 – 180
Wilmington, Del. (Salesianum School)
Prior to Cornell
β€’ Twice named to the first team all-state roster.
β€’ Two-time state champions at Salesianum School.
β€’ Served as captain in his senior season.
β€’ DIAA Student Athlete awardee.

Matthew Perfetto – Attack – 5-10 – 180
Manhasset, N.Y. (Manhasset High School)
Prior to Cornell
β€’ Served as captain in 2022 and led his team to the New York state championship.
β€’ Named All-County in 2021 and 2022.
β€’ Two-time USA Lacrosse All-Academic.
β€’ Named one of Newsday's Top 100 players.
β€’ LILJ 2022 Paumonak Award finalist.

Take the rankings with grains of salt. The previous IL player ranking (2021 HS graduation year) had A Danny Caddigan as Cornell's top-rated recruit (4 stars), rated #61 among all rookies and at attack for Cornell in 2022 scored 3 goals, 0 assists. The year before, A CJ Kirst was the ninth-highest rated player and in his first season (2022) had 55-24--79 points.



Schools ranked by recruit quality

Inside Lacrosse ranks Virginia #1, Maryland #2, Princeton #7, Cornell #9 in the top ten.
2022 Inside Lacrosse [HS Class of] 2022 rankings of individual players:

Rank	Team	        5-star	4-star 	3-star  StarsTtl Avg Rating
1	Virginia	4	4	1	39	4.33
2	Maryland	3	7	1	46	4.18
3	Georgetown	2	5	1	33	4.13
4	Syracuse	4	7	3	57	4.07
5	Duke    	1	7	1	36	4.00
6	North Carolina	3	4	3	40	4.00
7	Princeton	1	4	1	24	4.00
8	Notre Dame	1	8	2	43	3.91
9	Cornell	        1	7	2	39	3.90
10	Harvard	        2	5	3	39	3.90
11	Penn	        0	7	1	31	3.88
12	Johns Hopkins	0	5	1	23	3.83
13	Ohio State	0	8	2	38	3.80
14	Michigan	0	7	2	34	3.78
15	Yale	        1	4	3	30	3.75
16	Villanova	0	7	3	37	3.70
17	Loyola	        0	6	3	33	3.67
18	Penn State	1	2	3	22	3.67
19	Navy	        0	7	4	40	3.64

The IL Top Incoming Players that I see only go to 10 not 100 as in previous years. They are:
1    Joey Spallina, M, Syracuse
2    Dominic Pietramala, A, NC (yes, son of ex Cornell-Hopkins coach)
3    Joey Terenzi, M, Virginia
4    Truit Sunderland, A, Virgina
5    Will Schaller, LSM, Maryland (poached from the Hill School, once our turf)
6    AJ Larking, D Maryland
7    Adam Blind, G, Harvard <-- Harvard, goaltender, name of Blind, insert own joke here
8    Charlie Johnson, D, Duke
9    Brock Berman, A, Notre Dame
10   Mac Eldridge, FO, Virginia 

Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 08/30/2022 08:59PM by billhoward.
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2023 - CU recruits rank vs top schools
Posted by: Al DeFlorio (---.hsd1.ma.comcast.net)
Date: August 30, 2022 07:34PM

Hilarious that 1-4-1 Princeton is ranked higher than 1-7-2 Cornell because it has a higher star "average." Using that logic, 1-0-0 would be better still.

 
___________________________
Al DeFlorio '65
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2023 - CU recruits rank vs top schools
Posted by: billhoward (---.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net)
Date: August 30, 2022 08:23PM

Al DeFlorio
Hilarious that 1-4-1 Princeton is ranked higher than 1-7-2 Cornell because it has a higher star "average." Using that logic, 1-0-0 would be better still.
Math and statistics look good when you're staring through a telescope at the cosmos. Imagine taking Carl Sagan's class while stoned.
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2023 - CU recruits rank vs top schools
Posted by: TimV (---.hsd1.ma.comcast.net)
Date: August 31, 2022 10:41AM

billhoward
Al DeFlorio
Hilarious that 1-4-1 Princeton is ranked higher than 1-7-2 Cornell because it has a higher star "average." Using that logic, 1-0-0 would be better still.
Math and statistics look good when you're staring through a telescope at the cosmos. Imagine taking Carl Sagan's class while stoned.[/qauote]

Didn't everyone? I thought it was a prereq...nut

 
___________________________
"Yo Paulie - I don't see no crowd gathering 'round you neither."
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2023 - CU recruits rank vs top schools
Posted by: dag14 (98.38.249.---)
Date: August 31, 2022 01:57PM

I don't believe Rob Pannell was even ranked by IL so I take all of the above with a grain of salt. And it is important to remember that lax is a team game. Ten people on the field who are willing and able to support each other is likely to guarantee success more often than having ten selfish AA's on the field.
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2023 - CU recruits rank vs top schools
Posted by: billhoward (---.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net)
Date: August 31, 2022 02:45PM

dag14
I don't believe Rob Pannell was even ranked by IL so I take all of the above with a grain of salt. And it is important to remember that lax is a team game. Ten people on the field who are willing and able to support each other is likely to guarantee success more often than having ten selfish AA's on the field.

You're thinking thinking perhaps of Virginia's Bratton twins from Long Island, subject of a 2007 NY Times magazine article, The Boy Wonders of Lacrosse? Suposedly capable of playing at a whole different level of athleticism. One was suspended multiple times then kicked off, the other suspended. They did not mesh with the team, it was reported multiple times, and they were also Black, so that may not have made it so easy to mesh with the team and vice versa.

A WaPost blog story on their suspension was written by We Showed Baltimore author Christian Swezey: Shamel Bratton dismissed from Virginia men’s lacrosse team; team votes to suspend Rhamel Bratton indefinitely. Swezey gets around.

The Rob Pannell story was he was a good but not head-turning HS player (not seen as at the Jeff Teat level and maybe not at the CJ Kirst level (#9 ranked by IL as a senior)). His goal was Quinnipiac. (Hey, Mike French's plan post HS was to work in a GM factory.) He took a prep year, caught fire, and Cornell lured him away from Bobcat-land.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 08/31/2022 02:46PM by billhoward.
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2023 - CU recruits rank vs top schools
Posted by: dag14 (98.38.249.---)
Date: August 31, 2022 06:34PM

I know the Pannell back story well: I was his faculty advisor at Cornell....

I remember serving on a panel during Trustee Council weekend with Dave Petramala in his first or second season in which we discussed the challenges of recruiting in the Ivy League. I didn't know him well at that time but I was particularly impressed with his candor as he noted that Cornell might not be the best fit for high school lacrosse stars because a lot [not all] of those guys are often looking for the so-called elite program so that they could continue to see themselves as better than everyone else. There are DI coaches who can successfully work with those players but that has never been the culture at Cornell. If you are a star, to be welcomed at Cornell you also have to be the guy that will do all he can to support his teammates, not just excel at a position.

Pannell comes to mind as a great example. After his PPL Redwood's team won an important game this summer, in large measure because of his 5 or 6 assists, Rob said in the postgame interview that he thrives on setting the other guys up. Jeff Teat is much the same. If he has an open lane, he heads for the goal. If he doesn't, he finds a guy who does.

Think about who wins the Hardhat Award after each game: it is often the guy with the most takeaways or groundballs, not the guy with the most points.
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2023 - CU recruits rank vs top schools
Posted by: billhoward (---.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net)
Date: August 31, 2022 07:26PM

Thanks for the trip down Recent-Memory Lane. Everything I know about Richie Moran and the Cornell ethic β€” Hard work! Ground balls! Ivy school, blue collar ethic! β€” rings true for not just the Moran/Harkness era but throughout Cornell's 55 or so years of lax dominance. Teamwork also pays off in all kinds of business life which is why being a jock helps you later (boosts the team manager, too). A loner is not going to correctly dissect a prospectus solo, or find the cure for cancer alone.
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2023 - CU recruits rank vs top schools
Posted by: mike1960 (---.wi.res.rr.com)
Date: September 02, 2022 08:57PM

Will definitely take a five-star FOGO.
 

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