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Men's Basketball 21-22

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Re: Men's Basketball 21-22
Posted by: ugarte (---.nycmny.fios.verizon.net)
Date: January 28, 2022 12:19PM



 
 
Re: Men's Basketball 21-22
Posted by: CU2007 (---.stny.res.rr.com)
Date: January 30, 2022 10:02AM

Big one today. Looks to be shaping up as a race for the 4th playoff spot with Princeton Yale and Penn likely to make the tourney.
 
Re: Men's Basketball 21-22
Posted by: Al DeFlorio (---.hsd1.ma.comcast.net)
Date: January 30, 2022 11:25AM

CU2007
Big one today. Looks to be shaping up as a race for the 4th playoff spot with Princeton Yale and Penn likely to make the tourney.
Shooting too many goddam threes. Take it to the hoop. Fritter away too many big leads by missing threes.

2 of 9 threes. 9 of 13 twos. This team can get inside.

 
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Re: Men's Basketball 21-22
Posted by: ugarte (---.nycmny.fios.verizon.net)
Date: January 30, 2022 11:45AM

hard to complain too much with a 43-25 halftime lead over Brown. rebounding and defending well.

 
 
Re: Men's Basketball 21-22
Posted by: Al DeFlorio (---.hsd1.ma.comcast.net)
Date: January 30, 2022 12:16PM

ugarte
hard to complain too much with a 43-25 halftime lead over Brown. rebounding and defending well.
I'm talking in general, not specifically today, but today's percentages make the point: 4 for 17 threes; 18 for 24 twos. 1.5 points scored per two shot. 0.7 points per three.

 
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Re: Men's Basketball 21-22
Posted by: ugarte (---.nycmny.fios.verizon.net)
Date: January 30, 2022 12:33PM

Al DeFlorio
ugarte
hard to complain too much with a 43-25 halftime lead over Brown. rebounding and defending well.
I'm talking in general, not specifically today, but today's percentages make the point: 4 for 17 threes; 18 for 24 twos. 1.5 points scored per two shot. 0.7 points per three.
well now that the lead is down to 8 i'm losing my mind. brown started pressing and the ball movement is hesitant and awkward with an inexplicable fondness for dribbling into traffic and passing in tight windows instead of a lot more off-ball movement and they are bricking all of the open looks.

 
 
Re: Men's Basketball 21-22
Posted by: ugarte (---.nycmny.fios.verizon.net)
Date: January 30, 2022 12:47PM

ballhandlers are afraid to handle the ball and nobody moves to help so one guy after another gets trapped and now Brown is within 4 with around 5 minutes left. the big red pace doesn't work against pressure because they aren't skilled enough to run against a press without turning it over.

 
 
Re: Men's Basketball 21-22
Posted by: ugarte (---.nycmny.fios.verizon.net)
Date: January 30, 2022 12:56PM

ugarte
ballhandlers are afraid to handle the ball and nobody moves to help so one guy after another gets trapped and now Brown is within 4 with around 5 minutes left. the big red pace doesn't work against pressure because they aren't skilled enough to run against a press without turning it over.
tied with 3:17 left when it was still around 15 halfway through the second half. incredible.

 
 
Re: Men's Basketball 21-22
Posted by: CU2007 (---.stny.res.rr.com)
Date: January 30, 2022 01:08PM

Nice to escape with a league road win, but the team better learn something from that second half.
 
Re: Men's Basketball 21-22
Posted by: ugarte (---.nycmny.fios.verizon.net)
Date: January 30, 2022 01:09PM

...and cornell wins after Brown ties it at 72 when Kobe Dickson gets his own rebound and lays it in with a tenth of a second remaining.


hilarious coaching from Brown. pressing gets them to come back from 18, they stop pressing and Cornell immediately starts scoring again. great final possession by Cornell; nearly got Patel to the line then a nice inbound to Dickson to set up the W.

 

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Re: Men's Basketball 21-22
Posted by: ugarte (---.nycmny.fios.verizon.net)
Date: January 30, 2022 01:15PM



 
 
Re: Men's Basketball 21-22
Posted by: Al DeFlorio (---.hsd1.ma.comcast.net)
Date: January 30, 2022 02:03PM

4 for 24 shooting threes. 0.5 points per attempt. No second half lead is safe.

 
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Re: Men's Basketball 21-22
Posted by: billhoward (---.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net)
Date: January 31, 2022 08:08AM

Video also shows an almost deserted Pizzitola Sports Center at Brown. Box scores says A--225.
 
Re: Men's Basketball 21-22
Posted by: ugarte (---.nycmny.fios.verizon.net)
Date: January 31, 2022 09:03AM

billhoward
Video also shows an almost deserted Pizzitola Sports Center at Brown. Box scores says A--225.
an 11 AM game during a blizzard during a pandemic will deliver some strange numbers

 
 
Re: Men's Basketball 21-22
Posted by: Weder (---.hsd1.md.comcast.net)
Date: January 31, 2022 11:25AM

billhoward
Video also shows an almost deserted Pizzitola Sports Center at Brown. Box scores says A--225.

Cornell’s average home attendance this year is 548 so we’re not exactly in a position to comment.
 
Re: Men's Basketball 21-22
Posted by: billhoward (---.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net)
Date: January 31, 2022 05:25PM

Weder
billhoward
Video also shows an almost deserted Pizzitola Sports Center at Brown. Box scores says A--225.
Cornell’s average home attendance this year is 548 so we’re not exactly in a position to comment.
I love it when the NYTimes writes about D1 schools raking in millions in sports. The writers perhaps hated sports growing up, got beat up by jocks, never dated cheerleaders, and believe the major of NCAA schools, certainly the majority of D1 schools, are money factories. If those 225 in Providence paid an average of $5 a head, that would probably pay for the Cornell bus going back from Providence. No hotel, no meals, no coaches or trainers, no tape or sneakers.
 
Re: Men's Basketball 21-22
Posted by: marty (161.11.160.---)
Date: February 01, 2022 12:31PM

billhoward
Weder
billhoward
Video also shows an almost deserted Pizzitola Sports Center at Brown. Box scores says A--225.
Cornell’s average home attendance this year is 548 so we’re not exactly in a position to comment.
I love it when the NYTimes writes about D1 schools raking in millions in sports. The writers perhaps hated sports growing up, got beat up by jocks, never dated cheerleaders, and believe the major of NCAA schools, certainly the majority of D1 schools, are money factories. If those 225 in Providence paid an average of $5 a head, that would probably pay for the gas for the Cornell bus going back from Providence. No hotel, no meals, no coaches or trainers, no tape or sneakers.

FYP
 
Re: Men's Basketball 21-22
Posted by: Trotsky (---.washdc.fios.verizon.net)
Date: February 01, 2022 04:32PM

billhoward
The writers perhaps hated sports growing up, got beat up by jocks, never dated cheerleaders

Um. I'm never one to defend sportswriters, but (1) they are typically ex-jocks, and (2) writers don't dream of cheerleaders, they dream of the nerdy girl who also puts out.

Now, I'm not saying they date her, mind you. Typically they're too self-conscious to even meet her eyes. But their aim is higher than boobs on a stick. Leave the cheerleaders for the MBAs; they can babble to each other about People Magazine.
 
Re: Men's Basketball 21-22
Posted by: ugarte (---.nycmny.fios.verizon.net)
Date: February 04, 2022 07:28PM

Princeton rematch is a wild one. Run and gun and very close about halfway through the first half. Still can't hit a 3.

 
 
Re: Men's Basketball 21-22
Posted by: semsox (---.bstnma.fios.verizon.net)
Date: February 04, 2022 08:49PM

I thought we were supposed to get the calls at home games? Officiating has seemed a bit rough to my eyes
 
Re: Men's Basketball 21-22
Posted by: Ken711 (---.clppva.fios.verizon.net)
Date: February 04, 2022 08:59PM

Nice win.
 
Re: Men's Basketball 21-22
Posted by: ugarte (---.nycmny.fios.verizon.net)
Date: February 04, 2022 09:05PM

Ken711
Nice win.
really makes the collapse in the first game feel more acute but if we make the top 4 it's all good

 
 
Re: Men's Basketball 21-22
Posted by: CU2007 (---.stny.res.rr.com)
Date: February 04, 2022 09:12PM

Ken711
Nice win.

Who is considered the best team in the league? Princeton?

That could be the win that gets us into the Ivy tourney
 
Re: Men's Basketball 21-22
Posted by: scoop85 (---.hvc.res.rr.com)
Date: February 04, 2022 09:13PM

CU2007
Ken711
Nice win.

Who is considered the best team in the league? Princeton?

That could be the win that gets us into the Ivy tourney

Yale has come on strong, so they’re the likely favorite at the moment. But it’s pretty wide open.
 
Re: Men's Basketball 21-22
Posted by: ugarte (---.nycmny.fios.verizon.net)
Date: February 04, 2022 09:17PM

whoops

 

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Re: Men's Basketball 21-22
Posted by: scoop85 (---.hvc.res.rr.com)
Date: February 04, 2022 10:56PM

It wasn’t a huge crowd, but that was the rowdiest Newman has sounded in some time.
 
Re: Men's Basketball 21-22
Posted by: upprdeck (38.77.26.---)
Date: February 05, 2022 09:09AM

Yale only has the loss to top 3 penn
Penn has the loss to top4 Pricn.. but last place Col
Prin has the loss to top 4 yale and cornell
Cornell has the loss top 4 yale/penn/princ

If we sweep Harvard we are in good shape if the other 3 continue to beat up the bottom 4.

still wondering how Penn lost to Col though.
 
Re: Men's Basketball 21-22
Posted by: mountainred (50.110.57.---)
Date: February 05, 2022 09:52AM

It's basically 5 teams for 4 slots, unless you think Brown can win out. At least one projector has Cornell with the best odds for winning the Ivy League bid. Not sure I buy it, but it is fun to see.

One thing Cornell has going for it is two games left against last place Columbia (but as upprdeck said, the Lions did beat Penn). Harvard still has two games left to play against both Yale and Princeton, so their path is going to be difficult, but they host the ILT if they get there.
 
Re: Men's Basketball 21-22
Posted by: Al DeFlorio (---.hsd1.ma.comcast.net)
Date: February 05, 2022 06:15PM

Sloppy start and wasting possessions on rushed threes.

 
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Re: Men's Basketball 21-22
Posted by: scoop85 (---.hvc.res.rr.com)
Date: February 05, 2022 06:17PM

Ugly start for both teams, with game tied at 8-8. Both offenses stagnant
 
Re: Men's Basketball 21-22
Posted by: Al DeFlorio (---.hsd1.ma.comcast.net)
Date: February 05, 2022 06:20PM

scoop85
Ugly start for both teams, with game tied at 8-8. Both offenses stagnant
11 points in 10 minutes. Take it to the hoop. High percentage shots and draw fouls.

 
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Re: Men's Basketball 21-22
Posted by: ugarte (---.nycmny.fios.verizon.net)
Date: February 05, 2022 08:12PM

turned it on and heard "rally from 21 down" but Cornell is down 3 with .7 seconds left and Penn heading to the line as someone called a timeout so i'll check in later but assume this is over.

 
 
Re: Men's Basketball 21-22
Posted by: upprdeck (38.77.26.---)
Date: February 07, 2022 09:58AM

6 games left in the Reg season.. need to go 4-2 to end up 8-6

Harvard is 3-4 with games against Yale/Penn2x/Princ/Cornell. all ahead of them in the standings. they would need to go 5-2 so 3-2 against that group and still win the other 2.

Brown would have to run the table and thats not happening..

7-7 is where it gets Dicey

if we beat Harvard and still go 4-2 we are probably in. If we go 3-3 and beat Harvard probably in.
 
Re: Men's Basketball 21-22
Posted by: semsox (---.bstnma.fios.verizon.net)
Date: February 09, 2022 07:57PM

Flew under my radar, but I guess the make up game with Columbia was held this afternoon at Newman. Game flow made it look like a pretty comfortable win, 88-75.
 
Re: Men's Basketball 21-22
Posted by: upprdeck (38.77.26.---)
Date: February 09, 2022 11:10PM

yup.. i lost tracj of it as well.

Harvard lost to Yale which is a good result for us.
 
Re: Men's Basketball 21-22
Posted by: scoop85 (---.hvc.res.rr.com)
Date: February 10, 2022 08:48AM

semsox
Flew under my radar, but I guess the make up game with Columbia was held this afternoon at Newman. Game flow made it look like a pretty comfortable win, 88-75.

I watched the replay. Cornell, and especially Boothby, was red hot the 1st half and looked like it would be a blow out. But we cooled off the 2nd half and twice Columbia cut what was an 18 point lead to 3. But Dean Noll was rock solid and we were able to pull away toward the end.

Huge game at home Saturday against Brown.
 
Re: Men's Basketball 21-22
Posted by: billhoward (---.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net)
Date: February 11, 2022 06:07PM

scoop85
Huge game at home Saturday against Brown.
Not many sports, in most seasons, does one think of a Brown-Cornell game as crucial.
Okay, maybe in Ultimate.
 
Re: Men's Basketball 21-22
Posted by: ugarte (---.nycmny.fios.verizon.net)
Date: February 12, 2022 04:09PM

Ugh. Brown gets payback with a putback slam with 3 seconds left to win by a point in Ithaca in a fun seesaw game.

With under a minute left Cornell took a one point lead on a 3 by Manon, then got a clean steal from Noll. Alas, Manon gave Brown the ball back and sent Brown to the line on a clumsy turnover / foul when he stumbled on a drive with ~30 seconds left. Dickson scored to get Cornell the lead back with ~14 seconds left. The defense forced a bad Brown shot but Ganey - the biggest player on the floor, I think - skied above everyone for a highlight reel jam and Cornell couldn't get upcourt cleanly for a last shot.

 

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Re: Men's Basketball 21-22
Posted by: rss77 (---.stny.res.rr.com)
Date: February 12, 2022 07:56PM

Brown's offensive rebounding was a difference and Cornell's interior defense has been its Achilles Heel all season. Cornell's offense is as good as anyone's in the Ivy League but it gets caught up in trading baskets. Manon is getting better at passing off when he drives but that late game turnover was a killer.
 
Re: Men's Basketball 21-22
Posted by: upprdeck (38.77.26.---)
Date: February 13, 2022 10:43AM

down the stretch

cornell Harv/Yale/Dart/Col

Have to win at least 2.. 7-7
Beating Harvard and going 3-1 would make it 8-6

Harv has 5 left cornell/prin2x/col/dart
4-1 would be the top of them i suspect 7-7
3-2 makes them 6-8


Brown has Prin/penn/yale/col.
going 2-2 would be most likely and ending up 6-8
beating 2 of the top teams and going 3-1 gets them to 7-7

if cornell beats harvard and then beats one of the lower 2 thats 7-7 and knocks out harvard most likely as well
 
Re: Men's Basketball 21-22
Posted by: CU2007 (---.stny.res.rr.com)
Date: February 13, 2022 03:46PM

What are tie breakers for the 4 spot if we end up tied?
 
Re: Men's Basketball 21-22
Posted by: George64 (---.hsd1.fl.comcast.net)
Date: February 13, 2022 05:16PM

CU2007
What are tie breakers for the 4 spot if we end up tied?

The tied teams play a best three out of five, three-on-three half-court tournament. If unresolved, consecutive rounds of H-O-R-S-E. If still not resolved, rock-paper-scissors.
.
 
Re: Men's Basketball 21-22
Posted by: Al DeFlorio (---.hsd1.ma.comcast.net)
Date: February 13, 2022 07:26PM

George64
CU2007
What are tie breakers for the 4 spot if we end up tied?

The tied teams play a best three out of five, three-on-three half-court tournament. If unresolved, consecutive rounds of H-O-R-S-E. If still not resolved, rock-paper-scissors.
.
How about a dunking contest?

 
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Re: Men's Basketball 21-22
Posted by: billhoward (---.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net)
Date: February 13, 2022 11:02PM

Al DeFlorio
George64
CU2007
What are tie breakers for the 4 spot if we end up tied?
The tied teams play a best three out of five, three-on-three half-court tournament. If unresolved, consecutive rounds of H-O-R-S-E. If still not resolved, rock-paper-scissors.
.
How about a dunking contest?
As long as they're dunking into Fair-Trade coffee.
George64's tie-braker is as sensible as any. Probably more.
 
Re: Men's Basketball 21-22
Posted by: nshapiro (---.phlapa.fios.verizon.net)
Date: February 14, 2022 08:13AM

Al DeFlorio
George64
CU2007
What are tie breakers for the 4 spot if we end up tied?

The tied teams play a best three out of five, three-on-three half-court tournament. If unresolved, consecutive rounds of H-O-R-S-E. If still not resolved, rock-paper-scissors.
.
How about a dunking contest?

Please NO! Let us not degrade further into judged events. It is why I find half of the Olympics unwatchable. Can someone explain why they have to have judging for style in Ski Jumping?
 
Re: Men's Basketball 21-22
Posted by: billhoward (---.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net)
Date: February 14, 2022 02:49PM

nshapiro
Please NO! Let us not degrade further into judged events. It is why I find half of the Olympics unwatchable. Can someone explain why they have to have judging for style in Ski Jumping?
The Olympics are unwatchable because there's no second audio channel (SAP) that has neutral announcers. Even worse are the up-close-and-personal profiles. I don't think you can be on the U.S. team unless you or your family has worked through a personal tragedy and let a video crew traipse through the house. If NBC does an up-close on a German, he or she must be a model or heir to some Prussian title that fell into disrepute, and they're photogenic.

They judge style in ski jumping? Surely you put that in to see if we read the entire thread. It wasn't until recently that I knew if Monobob meant a single occupant or a single sled-runner. At least, and I checked, I haven't seen a headline, What About Monobob?, but maybe it's early innings for the media.
 
Re: Men's Basketball 21-22
Posted by: nshapiro (---.phlapa.fios.verizon.net)
Date: February 14, 2022 03:02PM

billhoward
nshapiro
Please NO! Let us not degrade further into judged events. It is why I find half of the Olympics unwatchable. Can someone explain why they have to have judging for style in Ski Jumping?
The Olympics are unwatchable because there's no second audio channel (SAP) that has neutral announcers. Even worse are the up-close-and-personal profiles. I don't think you can be on the U.S. team unless you or your family has worked through a personal tragedy and let a video crew traipse through the house. If NBC does an up-close on a German, he or she must be a model or heir to some Prussian title that fell into disrepute, and they're photogenic.

They judge style in ski jumping? Surely you put that in to see if we read the entire thread. It wasn't until recently that I knew if Monobob meant a single occupant or a single sled-runner. At least, and I checked, I haven't seen a headline, What About Monobob?, but maybe it's early innings for the media.
Honestly, they take distance and adjust it with style points in ski jumping. I agree that it is unwatchable live, for all the reasons you say. I DVR it and fast-forward to the actual competition.

unfortunately, in a text thread, it makes no sense to add "and don't call me Shirley".
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 02/14/2022 03:04PM by nshapiro.
 
Re: Men's Basketball 21-22
Posted by: Trotsky (---.net.cia.gov)
Date: February 14, 2022 03:04PM

billhoward
nshapiro
Please NO! Let us not degrade further into judged events. It is why I find half of the Olympics unwatchable. Can someone explain why they have to have judging for style in Ski Jumping?
The Olympics are unwatchable because there's no second audio channel (SAP) that has neutral announcers. Even worse are the up-close-and-personal profiles. I don't think you can be on the U.S. team unless you or your family has worked through a personal tragedy and let a video crew traipse through the house. If NBC does an up-close on a German, he or she must be a model or heir to some Prussian title that fell into disrepute, and they're photogenic.

They judge style in ski jumping? Surely you put that in to see if we read the entire thread. It wasn't until recently that I knew if Monobob meant a single occupant or a single sled-runner. At least, and I checked, I haven't seen a headline, What About Monobob?, but maybe it's early innings for the media.
Allegedly there are internet streams which just give you the event audio and a crawl with the times, names, and standings, and zero commenters, to avoid all the infantile and jingoistic network inanity.
 
Re: Men's Basketball 21-22
Posted by: upprdeck (38.77.26.---)
Date: February 14, 2022 03:24PM

some sports there are multiple broadcasts as well.. there is a NBC feed a Peackock/Olympic channel feed. often a feed with no talk for some events.

I dont find most feeds that biased compared to feeds from other countries because they reality is the broadcast in the US is for 2 things.. One is for promoting the US athletes and is for promoting the sport.. the US is good in some sports and not others and in many of those the US is just the token presence in the broadcast which is fine.. if my kid made a sport I would hope they made a broadcast and got some kind of shout out.

why would you not want this to happen for these people they put in a lot of work to get to an event that happens every 4 yrs and for most no financial gain at the other end. you want to complain the family gets a small 5 min window?

are you thinking every country does this different?
 
Re: Men's Basketball 21-22
Posted by: nshapiro (---.phlapa.fios.verizon.net)
Date: February 14, 2022 04:13PM

upprdeck
some sports there are multiple broadcasts as well.. there is a NBC feed a Peackock/Olympic channel feed. often a feed with no talk for some events.

I dont find most feeds that biased compared to feeds from other countries because they reality is the broadcast in the US is for 2 things.. One is for promoting the US athletes and is for promoting the sport.. the US is good in some sports and not others and in many of those the US is just the token presence in the broadcast which is fine.. if my kid made a sport I would hope they made a broadcast and got some kind of shout out.

why would you not want this to happen for these people they put in a lot of work to get to an event that happens every 4 yrs and for most no financial gain at the other end. you want to complain the family gets a small 5 min window?

are you thinking every country does this different?
I like to watch sports, not watch biographies, or people talking about sports. I turn on the super bowl at kickoff, not for the pre-game.
 
Re: Men's Basketball 21-22
Posted by: David Harding (---.hsd1.il.comcast.net)
Date: February 14, 2022 11:05PM

George64
CU2007
What are tie breakers for the 4 spot if we end up tied?

The tied teams play a best three out of five, three-on-three half-court tournament. If unresolved, consecutive rounds of H-O-R-S-E. If still not resolved, rock-paper-scissors.
.
LOL
 
Re: Men's Basketball 21-22
Posted by: Trotsky (---.net.cia.gov)
Date: February 15, 2022 03:22PM

upprdeck
if my kid made a sport I would hope they made a broadcast and got some kind of shout out.
Of course you would; we all would want that for our kid. That's the problem. The Olympics are very close to the golden rule of socializing: the only thing more boring than somebody else's fantasy football team is somebody else's kids.
 
Re: Men's Basketball 21-22
Posted by: Jeff Hopkins '82 (---.44.98.30.res-cmts.sm.ptd.net)
Date: February 15, 2022 06:03PM

upprdeck
the reality is the broadcast in the US is for 2 things.. One is for promoting the US athletes and is for promoting the sport.

You forgot the main reason: Selling advertising.
 
Re: Men's Basketball 21-22
Posted by: ugarte (---.nycmny.fios.verizon.net)
Date: February 18, 2022 08:26PM

Cornell was up by 2 at the half in Hanover but have completely fallen apart in the second half. Down by 10 now.

 
 
Re: Men's Basketball 21-22
Posted by: semsox (---.bstnma.fios.verizon.net)
Date: February 18, 2022 08:31PM

Gross game so far. For us being so up tempo, just putrid possessions in the 2nd half. I think we should be even more aggressive.
 
Re: Men's Basketball 21-22
Posted by: ugarte (---.nycmny.fios.verizon.net)
Date: February 18, 2022 09:06PM

Cornell fights back to go up 55-53 then gives up back-to-back corner threes and Dartmouth closes on an 18-4 run and wins 71-59.

 
 
Re: Men's Basketball 21-22
Posted by: Ken711 (---.clppva.fios.verizon.net)
Date: February 18, 2022 09:10PM

ugarte
Cornell fights back to go up 55-53 then gives up back-to-back corner threes and Dartmouth closes on an 18-4 run and wins 71-59.

That's all she wrote, post season hopes over. Cornell started the season well but fades at the end.
 
Re: Men's Basketball 21-22
Posted by: ugarte (---.nycmny.fios.verizon.net)
Date: February 18, 2022 09:13PM

Ken711
ugarte
Cornell fights back to go up 55-53 then gives up back-to-back corner threes and Dartmouth closes on an 18-4 run and wins 71-59.

That's all she wrote, post season hopes over. Cornell started the season well but fades at the end.
That's not true? Beat Harvard tomorrow and we're back in fourth.

 
 
Re: Men's Basketball 21-22
Posted by: CU2007 (---.sub-174-197-202.myvzw.com)
Date: February 18, 2022 09:43PM

Ken711
ugarte
Cornell fights back to go up 55-53 then gives up back-to-back corner threes and Dartmouth closes on an 18-4 run and wins 71-59.

That's all she wrote, post season hopes over. Cornell started the season well but fades at the end.

Ken I love your passion in the Football thread but this isn’t true. The season probably comes down to tomorrow. If we lose, it’s probably over. But if we win, most likely 1-1 next weekend (with easy on paper Columbia as one game) should get us in.
 
Re: Men's Basketball 21-22
Posted by: CU2007 (---.sub-174-197-199.myvzw.com)
Date: February 19, 2022 08:22PM

Now we’re in trouble
 
Re: Men's Basketball 21-22
Posted by: Al DeFlorio (---.hsd1.ma.comcast.net)
Date: February 19, 2022 08:47PM

CU2007
Now we’re in trouble
No half-court offense.

 
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Re: Men's Basketball 21-22
Posted by: blackwidow (---.hsd1.pa.comcast.net)
Date: February 19, 2022 09:24PM

all that hard work for nothin...
 
Re: Men's Basketball 21-22
Posted by: Ken711 (---.clppva.fios.verizon.net)
Date: February 19, 2022 09:46PM

It's officially all she wrote now. Cornell has been struggling the last two months, I don't know it's injuries or that teams have scouted Cornell enough now that they can defend against the Big Red better.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 02/19/2022 09:47PM by Ken711.
 
Re: Men's Basketball 21-22
Posted by: upprdeck (38.77.26.---)
Date: February 19, 2022 11:17PM

no really over.. we neat columbia and harvard loses to princeton twice and we win that h2h. Harvard might also lose to Dartmouth who knows.
 
Re: Men's Basketball 21-22
Posted by: semsox (---.bstnma.fios.verizon.net)
Date: February 20, 2022 09:49AM

Disappointing how league play has gone, but have to say, I think this team has still exceeded my expectations overall. And with the play of the underclassmen, have to think the next few years we'll be pretty competitive.
 
Re: Men's Basketball 21-22
Posted by: Ken711 (---.clppva.fios.verizon.net)
Date: February 20, 2022 10:49AM

semsox
Disappointing how league play has gone, but have to say, I think this team has still exceeded my expectations overall. And with the play of the underclassmen, have to think the next few years we'll be pretty competitive.

Yes, they are young team that should develop even more in the future. I hope they be able to recruit more size in the front court going forward though.
 
Re: Men's Basketball 21-22
Posted by: Swampy (---.ri.ri.cox.net)
Date: February 20, 2022 05:16PM

Ken711
semsox
Disappointing how league play has gone, but have to say, I think this team has still exceeded my expectations overall. And with the play of the underclassmen, have to think the next few years we'll be pretty competitive.

Yes, they are young team that should develop even more in the future. I hope they be able to recruit more size in the front court going forward though.

About a month or so ago, someone posted here that they've signed 2 6'5" players. Years ago they would have been centers on most college teams. These days, most blue-chip guards are that size.
 
Re: Men's Basketball 21-22
Posted by: upprdeck (38.77.26.---)
Date: February 22, 2022 04:28PM

I didnt work too hard to look if its possible, but first glance i can see a 3 way tie at for first and 4 way tie for 4th in the books.

cornell loses to yale beat col 6-8
harv loses to Prin 2x beats dart 6-8
dart beats penn loses to harv/yale 6-8
brown beats Yale/Col 6-8

that makes
Yale 10-4
penn 10-4
princ 11-3. i guess.. so close..

better results for CU though.

cornell splits 6-8
Harv loses to Prin2x and Dart 5-9
Brown loses to yale or col 5-9
Dart beats Hard and loses to penn/yale 5-9

Princ winning the Ivies also means Harv could beat Dart and we win that tie breaker if its h2h and then who beats the top team and so on..
 
Re: Men's Basketball 21-22
Posted by: upprdeck (38.77.26.---)
Date: February 25, 2022 09:26AM

Cornell chances pretty simple now..

They beat Col
Princ beats Harv twice this weekend
yale beats Brown

They split with everyone so as long as none of those teams beat one of the top 3, Cornell wins the Tiebreaker as we beat Princeton
 
Re: Men's Basketball 21-22
Posted by: billhoward (---.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net)
Date: February 25, 2022 03:07PM

upprdeck
Cornell chances pretty simple now..
They beat Col
Princ beats Harv twice this weekend
yale beats Brown
They split with everyone so as long as none of those teams beat one of the top 3, Cornell wins the Tiebreaker as we beat Princeton
Cornell M Basketball still wins the tiebreaker over Football for most recruiting advancement past 5 years.
 
Re: Men's Basketball 21-22
Posted by: nshapiro (---.phlapa.fios.verizon.net)
Date: February 25, 2022 03:18PM

billhoward
upprdeck
Cornell chances pretty simple now..
They beat Col
Princ beats Harv twice this weekend
yale beats Brown
They split with everyone so as long as none of those teams beat one of the top 3, Cornell wins the Tiebreaker as we beat Princeton
Cornell M Basketball still wins the tiebreaker over Football for most recruiting advancement past 5 years.
But which will happen sooner - Cornell Football winning an outright Ivy title, or Cornell Hockey winning the NCAA Title...and will either happen in our lifetime?
 
Re: Men's Basketball 21-22
Posted by: upprdeck (38.77.26.---)
Date: February 25, 2022 03:20PM

fball would have more of a chance if they had something to play for beyond an ivy title i suspect.
 
Re: Men's Basketball 21-22
Posted by: CU2007 (---.stny.res.rr.com)
Date: February 25, 2022 03:49PM

nshapiro
billhoward
upprdeck
Cornell chances pretty simple now..
They beat Col
Princ beats Harv twice this weekend
yale beats Brown
They split with everyone so as long as none of those teams beat one of the top 3, Cornell wins the Tiebreaker as we beat Princeton
Cornell M Basketball still wins the tiebreaker over Football for most recruiting advancement past 5 years.
But which will happen sooner - Cornell Football winning an outright Ivy title, or Cornell Hockey winning the NCAA Title...and will either happen in our lifetime?

I vote hockey. Set up a poll!
 
Re: Men's Basketball 21-22
Posted by: George64 (---.hsd1.fl.comcast.net)
Date: February 25, 2022 03:55PM

nshapiro

But which will happen sooner - Cornell Football winning an outright Ivy title, or Cornell Hockey winning the NCAA Title...and will either happen in our lifetime?

Unless there’s a coaching change, I’d bet on hockey. I’m almost 80 and I’m optimistic that I’ll be around to see it. I was at the War Memorial in Syracuse and at Lake Placid. Might have happened in 2020, but for COVID. I matriculated in 1960, and I’m still waiting for an outright Ivy football championship.
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Re: Men's Basketball 21-22
Posted by: CU2007 (---.stny.res.rr.com)
Date: February 25, 2022 09:34PM

Princeton beats Harvard tonight 74-67. That’s good news for us.
 
Re: Men's Basketball 21-22
Posted by: CU2007 (---.stny.res.rr.com)
Date: February 25, 2022 09:37PM

upprdeck
Cornell chances pretty simple now..

They beat Col
Princ beats Harv twice this weekend
yale beats Brown

They split with everyone so as long as none of those teams beat one of the top 3, Cornell wins the Tiebreaker as we beat Princeton

Are you forgetting we have a game with Yale before Colombia? We just need to win
 
Re: Men's Basketball 21-22
Posted by: upprdeck (38.77.26.---)
Date: February 25, 2022 09:38PM

yup. need 1 more tomorrow..

cornell has 2 shots to get that 1 win as well.. if they beat yale then harvard has to win out to beat them as down brown.
 
Re: Men's Basketball 21-22
Posted by: semsox (---.bstnma.fios.verizon.net)
Date: February 26, 2022 03:44PM

Coming down to the wire against Yale. Nursing a 7 point lead at the under 4 in the 2nd half.
 
Re: Men's Basketball 21-22
Posted by: Al DeFlorio (74.119.160.---)
Date: February 26, 2022 03:52PM

semsox
Coming down to the wire against Yale. Nursing a 7 point lead at the under 4 in the 2nd half.
9 point lead under 2 min.

 
___________________________
Al DeFlorio '65
 
Re: Men's Basketball 21-22
Posted by: CU2007 (---.stny.res.rr.com)
Date: February 26, 2022 04:08PM

Tried really hard in the last minute to blow that game. Great win though.
 
Re: Men's Basketball 21-22
Posted by: ugarte (---.nycmny.fios.verizon.net)
Date: February 26, 2022 04:10PM

Huge win. Great work. I can't believe that I don't think I can go to Columbia. I haven't missed this game in a long time but I don't think I'm going to be able to make it.

 
 
Re: Men's Basketball 21-22
Posted by: CU2007 (---.stny.res.rr.com)
Date: February 26, 2022 04:12PM

Anyone know what the tiebreaker situation is? Are we now “win and in”?
 
Re: Men's Basketball 21-22
Posted by: ugarte (---.nycmny.fios.verizon.net)
Date: February 26, 2022 04:14PM

CU2007
Anyone know what the tiebreaker situation is? Are we now “win and in”?
from what i can tell, we are 1-1 H2H. Against the top of the conference we are 2-4 and they are 0-5. Might be win and in.

 
 
Re: Men's Basketball 21-22
Posted by: upprdeck (38.77.26.---)
Date: February 26, 2022 04:18PM

we get in if we win or Harvard loses 1. we have 2 wins vs prin/yale and none of the other 3 can get to that. Harv could win both and beat us
 
Re: Men's Basketball 21-22
Posted by: CU2007 (---.stny.res.rr.com)
Date: February 27, 2022 01:45PM

Harvard loses to Princeton and are eliminated from Ivy Tourney contention.
 
Re: Men's Basketball 21-22
Posted by: ugarte (---.nycmny.fios.verizon.net)
Date: February 27, 2022 02:26PM

CU2007
Harvard loses to Princeton and are eliminated from Ivy Tourney contention.
Harvard with a pair of free throws with 18 seconds left to take the lead; Princeton layup with 6 seconds left to take it back. 74-73 Princeton. I think this means it's over-over and Cornell clinches the 4 seed.

Taking a look at the tiebreaker scenarios with Dartmouth, Brown and Harvard at 6-8.

The tiebreaker rules are:

ivyleague.com
In the case of a two-way tie between teams in the final standings, the following process will be used until all ties are broken and the seeding process is completed (ties will be broken in rank order beginning with the highest seed):
Head-to-head competition – The higher seed will go to the team that has won the most League contests played against the other teams involved in the tie.
If a tie still exists, the tie will be broken by comparing each team’s record against the highest seed outside of the tie and continuing through the full league standings (if there is a group of tied teams, use each team’s record against the group rather than the individual teams) if necessary.
If a tie still exists, an average of the most recent ratings indices identified in advance by the coaches (e.g., Men: Sagarin, Ken Pom, BPI and NCAA Net/Women: NCAA Net) will be utilized to determine the higher seed.
If a tie still persists, a draw will be conducted by the Executive Director
Harvard - H2H split; Cornell 1-1 against Yale and Princeton; Harvard 0-2 vs both. Cornell advances.
Dartmouth - H2H split; Cornell 1-1 against Yale and Princeton; Dartmouth 0-2 vs both. Cornell advances.
Brown - H2H split; Cornell 1-1 against Yale and Princeton; Brown 0-2 vs Princeton, 0-1 vs Yale. Cornell advances.

ivyleague.com
In the case of a multiple team tie (more than two teams tied for the same spot), the following process will be used: Note: Once a highest seed (amongst the tied teams) is determined, the tie between the remaining seeds shall be determined on a basis on head-to-head competition.
Records between the tied teams – The higher seed will go to the team that has won the most League contests against the other teams tied at that spot.
If a tie still exists, the tie will be broken by comparing each team’s record against the highest seed outside of the tie and continuing through the full league standings (if there is a group of tied teams, use each team’s record against the group rather than the individual teams) if necessary.
If a tie still exists, an average of the most recent ratings indices identified in advance by the coaches (e.g., Men: Sagarin, Ken Pom, BPI and NCAA Net/Women: NCAA Net) will be utilized to determine the higher seed.
If a tie still persists, a draw will be conducted by the Executive Director


C-B-H All 1-1 against each other. Cornell's 2 wins against Princeton and Yale better than Brown's potential 1 and Harvard's 0. Cornell advances.
C-B-D All 1-1 against each other. Cornell's 2 wins against Princeton and Yale better than Dartmouth's 0. Cornell advances.
C-H-D impossible because H&D play each other to close the season; one will finish 5-9. This also precludes a 4-way tie.

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I can't imagine anyone expected this team in the ILT before the season started. I'm very happy with how this team came together

For the people paying the closest attention... is Isaiah Gray hurt? He seems to have been dropped from the rotation.

 

Edited 3 time(s). Last edit at 02/27/2022 03:45PM by ugarte.
 
Re: Men's Basketball 21-22
Posted by: RichH (---.washdc.fios.verizon.net)
Date: February 27, 2022 03:13PM

Ken711
ugarte
Cornell fights back to go up 55-53 then gives up back-to-back corner threes and Dartmouth closes on an 18-4 run and wins 71-59.

That's all she wrote, post season hopes over. Cornell started the season well but fades at the end.

Reading through this thread from 1-2 weeks ago is pretty fun.
 
Re: Men's Basketball 21-22
Posted by: RichH (---.washdc.fios.verizon.net)
Date: February 27, 2022 03:15PM

Ken711
It's officially all she wrote now. Cornell has been struggling the last two months, I don't know it's injuries or that teams have scouted Cornell enough now that they can defend against the Big Red better.

Official. :-)
 
Re: Men's Basketball 21-22
Posted by: Ken711 (---.clppva.fios.verizon.net)
Date: February 27, 2022 03:43PM

RichH
Ken711
It's officially all she wrote now. Cornell has been struggling the last two months, I don't know it's injuries or that teams have scouted Cornell enough now that they can defend against the Big Red better.

Official. :-)

Officially wrong for sure, let the tourney begin! innocent
 
Re: Men's Basketball 21-22
Posted by: ugarte (---.nycmny.fios.verizon.net)
Date: February 27, 2022 03:48PM

ugarte
Huge win. Great work. I can't believe that I don't think I can go to Columbia. I haven't missed this game in a long time but I don't think I'm
going to be able to make it.
Actually do think I can go to Columbia. Still not sure if I will because (a) we clinched and (b) EIWA wrestling tournament at the same time. Gameday call.

 
 
Re: Men's Basketball 21-22
Posted by: toddlose (76.117.252.---)
Date: February 27, 2022 10:15PM

2 wins from the dance? Who’d have thunk?
 
Re: Men's Basketball 21-22
Posted by: semsox (---.bstnma.fios.verizon.net)
Date: February 27, 2022 10:49PM

ugarte
ugarte
Huge win. Great work. I can't believe that I don't think I can go to Columbia. I haven't missed this game in a long time but I don't think I'm
going to be able to make it.
Actually do think I can go to Columbia. Still not sure if I will because (a) we clinched and (b) EIWA wrestling tournament at the same time. Gameday call.

Well, one less decision to make since the Ivy League Tournament is being held at Harvard this year.

Relatedly, going to this game would be a short drive for me, but I am having a bit of sticker shock, as a single bleacher ticket is $55? Seems like they're obviously steering people to the bundle, where all 3 games costs... :::checks notes::: $150. Does the league just not want people to attend this?
 
Re: Men's Basketball 21-22
Posted by: upprdeck (38.77.26.---)
Date: February 27, 2022 11:29PM

Cornell has now beaten Princ once and a good shot the other time. also beat Yale once..

Might want to see Prin win this thing and have Yale take out Penn..
 
Re: Men's Basketball 21-22
Posted by: billhoward (---.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net)
Date: February 28, 2022 10:46AM

semsox
Relatedly, going to this game would be a short drive for me, but I am having a bit of sticker shock, as a single bleacher ticket is $55? Seems like they're obviously steering people to the bundle, where all 3 games costs... :::checks notes::: $150. Does the league just not want people to attend this?
a) Ivy Leaguers are affluent. For the most part.
b) Ivy League Sports doing its part to promote responsible, limited attendance.

Tix for Lake Placid ice hockey: [lakeplacidlegacysites.com]
Adult Single Day | $40
Adult All Tournament Pass | $60
Junior/Senior Single Day | $35
Junior/Senior All Tournament Pass | $50
Adult Ages: 13-64 | Junior Ages: 12 & Under | Senior Ages: 65 & Over. (I thought there was a student price as well.)

Chrissakes, who writes this prose? The only thing absent is "be sure not to miss..."
ECAC promo
If you like the excitement and fast action of hockey, there is no place better to see it than Lake Placid, New York–the Winter Sports Capital of the World!* Come see the best in the NCAA Division I Ice Hockey Schools from the Eastern College Athletic Conference compete for the ECAC championship title.
* Among towns population < 3,000
 
Re: Men's Basketball 21-22
Posted by: Trotsky (---.net.cia.gov)
Date: February 28, 2022 01:29PM

JFC it's 6 degrees in Placid right now.

Play the ECACs in Vegas.
 
Re: Men's Basketball 21-22
Posted by: RichH (---.washdc.fios.verizon.net)
Date: February 28, 2022 02:55PM

Trotsky
JFC it's 6 degrees in Placid right now.

Play the ECACs in Vegas.

Of course I argue winter weather for winter sports, but what do I know? I guess I’m the weirdo who can actually exist without complaining in cold climates.
 
Re: Men's Basketball 21-22
Posted by: Jeff Hopkins '82 (---.44.98.30.res-cmts.sm.ptd.net)
Date: February 28, 2022 08:18PM

Trotsky
JFC it's 6 degrees in Placid right now.

Play the ECACs in Vegas.

Oh, fuck no!
 
Re: Men's Basketball 21-22
Posted by: Scersk '97 (38.81.106.---)
Date: March 01, 2022 10:11AM

RichH
Trotsky
JFC it's 6 degrees in Placid right now.

Play the ECACs in Vegas.

Of course I argue winter weather for winter sports, but what do I know? I guess I’m the weirdo who can actually exist without complaining in cold climates.

Yeah, how hard is it to wear a hat, coat, and scarf? If you really can't take it, wear long underwear.

6 degrees is nothing.
 
Re: Men's Basketball 21-22
Posted by: nshapiro (---.phlapa.fios.verizon.net)
Date: March 01, 2022 10:36AM

Scersk '97
RichH
Trotsky
JFC it's 6 degrees in Placid right now.

Play the ECACs in Vegas.

Of course I argue winter weather for winter sports, but what do I know? I guess I’m the weirdo who can actually exist without complaining in cold climates.

Yeah, how hard is it to wear a hat, coat, and scarf? If you really can't take it, wear long underwear.

6 degrees is nothing.
And it will probably be up to the teens by the tournament.
 
Re: Men's Basketball 21-22
Posted by: ugarte (---.nycmny.fios.verizon.net)
Date: March 01, 2022 01:18PM

nshapiro
Scersk '97
RichH
Trotsky
JFC it's 6 degrees in Placid right now.

Play the ECACs in Vegas.

Of course I argue winter weather for winter sports, but what do I know? I guess I’m the weirdo who can actually exist without complaining in cold climates.

Yeah, how hard is it to wear a hat, coat, and scarf? If you really can't take it, wear long underwear.

6 degrees is nothing.
And it will probably be up to the teens by the tournament.
and they play indoors

 
 
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