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Cornell lacrosse 2021

Posted by billhoward 
Cornell lacrosse 2021
Posted by: billhoward (---.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net)
Date: June 12, 2020 11:15AM

2021 Cornell lacrosse looks promising:

* Cornell finished the truncated regular season unbeaten, 5-0
* Cornell ranked 2nd in final Inside Lacrosse and USILA polls behind Syracuse
* Cornell beat Syracuse 17-16 in the NCAA title game (per Christian Swezey sim)
* Jeff Teat returns for a fifth year (will not follow Cornell coach Peter Milliman to Hopkins)
* Top 4 scorers returning (5 games played, 2 ppg or more)
  1 Jeff Teat          27pts  - Sr (5th year) in 2021
  2 John Piatelli      23     - Sr 
  3 Jonathan Donville  20     - Sr 
  4 Michael Long       19     - So
  5 Cooper Telesco     14 
  6 Connor Fletcher    11
* Connor Buczek '15 elevated to head coach after 5 years as assistant. About the same age as when Dick Bertrand '70 was elevated to hockey head coach, the difference being Buczek had 5 seasons to adjust to being a coach, where Bertrand came late to Cornell and went from being team captain to HC.
* Delbarton AA attack CJ Kirst coming to Cornell (from NJ Delbarton, same as Michael Long)
* Goalie Chayse Ierlan is back for junior year
* Faceoff isn't bad
* Princeton, #3 in the polls, loses AA attackman Michael Sowers to Duke for his fifth year.

It would be good to see a tentative 2021 schedule including who we're playing early in the season from outside the Ivies.

Now, we just have to have on-campus instruction spring semester 2021.


Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 06/12/2020 12:32PM by billhoward.
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2021
Posted by: upprdeck (38.77.26.---)
Date: June 17, 2020 02:33PM

I might have missed this but did we know

"All players, not just the seniors, were given an extra year of eligibility." Quote from the UV coach Tiffany

I thought they had said just the SRs but know its the whole team?
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 06/17/2020 02:34PM by upprdeck.
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2021
Posted by: jkahn (---.73.146.216.biz.sta.networkgci.net)
Date: August 20, 2020 04:23PM

Incoming class announced:
[cornellbigred.com]

 
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Re: Cornell lacrosse 2021
Posted by: mike1960 (---.com)
Date: August 23, 2020 09:39PM

Let's hope he becomes a dominant FOGO for us.

Marc Psyllos – Face-off/Midfield – 5-8 – 190
Manhasset, N.Y. (Manhasset HS)
Prior to Cornell
• Helped Manhasset HS to the 2019 Long Island and Nassau County championships.
• Recipient of the inaugural James C. Metzger Lacrosse MVP Award after helping Manhasset to the 2019 Long Island Class B Championship.
• Named the division's Co-Face-off Specialist of the Year.
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2021
Posted by: scoop85 (---.hvc.res.rr.com)
Date: August 23, 2020 09:59PM

mike1960
Let's hope he becomes a dominant FOGO for us.

Marc Psyllos – Face-off/Midfield – 5-8 – 190
Manhasset, N.Y. (Manhasset HS)
Prior to Cornell
• Helped Manhasset HS to the 2019 Long Island and Nassau County championships.
• Recipient of the inaugural James C. Metzger Lacrosse MVP Award after helping Manhasset to the 2019 Long Island Class B Championship.
• Named the division's Co-Face-off Specialist of the Year.

With Petrakis coming off a strong Freshman year and Graham having some experience, Psyllos looks like another quality option. Also with the new faceoff rules, some guys will adapt better than others, so you need a few options.
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2021
Posted by: abmarks (---.hsd1.vt.comcast.net)
Date: August 25, 2020 05:38PM

scoop85
mike1960
Let's hope he becomes a dominant FOGO for us.

Marc Psyllos – Face-off/Midfield – 5-8 – 190
Manhasset, N.Y. (Manhasset HS)
Prior to Cornell
• Helped Manhasset HS to the 2019 Long Island and Nassau County championships.
• Recipient of the inaugural James C. Metzger Lacrosse MVP Award after helping Manhasset to the 2019 Long Island Class B Championship.
• Named the division's Co-Face-off Specialist of the Year.

With Petrakis coming off a strong Freshman year and Graham having some experience, Psyllos looks like another quality option. Also with the new faceoff rules, some guys will adapt better than others, so you need a few options.

Cliffs on the new rules?
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2021
Posted by: mike1960 (---.wi.res.rr.com)
Date: August 25, 2020 07:43PM

abmarks
scoop85
mike1960
Let's hope he becomes a dominant FOGO for us.

Marc Psyllos – Face-off/Midfield – 5-8 – 190
Manhasset, N.Y. (Manhasset HS)
Prior to Cornell
• Helped Manhasset HS to the 2019 Long Island and Nassau County championships.
• Recipient of the inaugural James C. Metzger Lacrosse MVP Award after helping Manhasset to the 2019 Long Island Class B Championship.
• Named the division's Co-Face-off Specialist of the Year.

With Petrakis coming off a strong Freshman year and Graham having some experience, Psyllos looks like another quality option. Also with the new faceoff rules, some guys will adapt better than others, so you need a few options.

Cliffs on the new rules?

No motorcycle grip allowed and FOGOs must work from a standing position (knee can't be on the ground). TD Ierlan says it will have to be a new approach for him.
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2021
Posted by: billhoward (---.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net)
Date: August 25, 2020 09:29PM

Some stories suggest a good team will win only 60% of faceoffs in 2021, vs. TD Ierlan's 75%. More groundballs, fewer clean wins. We'll see.
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2021
Posted by: rss77 (---.stny.res.rr.com)
Date: October 03, 2020 07:22PM

According to Very Rusty Red on the Fanlax forum there are 3 of last year's seniors besides Teat coming back. He raised the query does anyone know who they are? Anyone on the Elynah site know?
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2021
Posted by: upprdeck (38.77.26.---)
Date: October 03, 2020 08:23PM

well its not that hard to see who is still a student in the registry.. teat still is so thats a good sign.
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2021 - poll Jan. 7 Cornell 9th
Posted by: billhoward (---.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net)
Date: January 13, 2021 10:57AM

Cornell #9 in Inside Lacrosse pre-season poll posted Jan. 7. 3 Ivy teams in the top 20: Yale, Cornell, Penn plus HM Brown. No Princeton.
[www.uslaxmagazine.com]


1. Duke
2. Syracuse
3. Maryland
4. Penn State
5. Virginia
6. North Carolina
7. Denver
8. Yale
9. Cornell

10. Notre Dame
11. Georgetown
12. Ohio State
13. Loyola
14. UMass
15. Army
16. Lehigh
17. Richmond
18. Penn
19. Rutgers
20. Johns Hopkins

Also considered (alphabetical order): Albany, Brown, Bucknell, Hofstra, Navy, Providence, Villanova
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2021 - poll Jan. 7 Cornell 9th
Posted by: ugarte (---.nyc.res.rr.com)
Date: January 13, 2021 03:00PM

why would they rank the ivy teams? is there any chance that they will play?

 
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Re: Cornell lacrosse 2021 - poll Jan. 7 Cornell 9th
Posted by: underskill (204.194.190.---)
Date: January 13, 2021 04:07PM

ugarte
why would they rank the ivy teams? is there any chance that they will play?

The admin already destroyed the hockey program for at least 5 years so doubt they’ll do any different for lacrosse.
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2021 - poll Jan. 7 Cornell 9th
Posted by: upprdeck (38.77.26.---)
Date: January 13, 2021 06:27PM

Look at how things will be by Mar/April. Good chance large piece of campus has Vaccine by then as well as 1/3 to 1/2 the country
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2021 - poll Jan. 7 Cornell 9th
Posted by: Scersk '97 (---.hsd1.ct.comcast.net)
Date: January 14, 2021 11:32PM

underskill
ugarte
why would they rank the ivy teams? is there any chance that they will play?

The admin already destroyed the hockey program for at least 5 years so doubt they’ll do any different for lacrosse.

I think we'll be back at the top of our game in three years, but I've always been an optimistic person where hockey is involved.
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2021 - poll Jan. 7 Cornell 9th
Posted by: jeff '84 (---.dyn.optonline.net)
Date: January 16, 2021 05:30PM

underskill
ugarte
why would they rank the ivy teams? is there any chance that they will play?

The admin already destroyed the hockey program for at least 5 years so doubt they’ll do any different for lacrosse.

Update to Ivy League Athletes Provides No New Timetable For Return to Play
[www.insidelacrosse.com]
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2021 - poll Jan. 7 Cornell 9th
Posted by: Trotsky (---.washdc.fios.verizon.net)
Date: January 16, 2021 06:53PM

ugarte
why would they rank the ivy teams? is there any chance that they will play?
Hopefully not.

Think for a moment about the demographics of lacrosse players.

Yeah, no, they won't be playing. Nobody is going to risk the future of the vampire squid for an incremental increase in date rape opportunities.

Dad can spring for working girls.


Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 01/16/2021 06:56PM by Trotsky.

 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2021
Posted by: margolism (---.nyc.res.rr.com)
Date: January 21, 2021 01:03PM

Looks like TD Ierlan is transferring again...
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2021
Posted by: mike1960 (---.wi.res.rr.com)
Date: January 21, 2021 04:58PM

I guess I hope he comes to the Big Red, but he's a travelin' man.
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2021
Posted by: upprdeck (38.77.26.---)
Date: January 22, 2021 05:25PM

Cornell is popping up on some shedules.. still not sure we are playing though.. I wish they just bumped the season to April.. Better weather anyway and probably better times.
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2021
Posted by: billhoward (---.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net)
Date: January 22, 2021 06:11PM

upprdeck
Cornell is popping up on some shedules.. still not sure we are playing though.. I wish they just bumped the season to April.. Better weather anyway and probably better times.
What about a summer semester for spring sports?
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2021
Posted by: upprdeck (38.77.26.---)
Date: January 22, 2021 11:07PM

baseball plays well after most schools graduate. why no lacrosse..

still lets just see where stuff is in a month before making rash decisions..

the ivy could say no OC games and that would buy them another month or so as well.
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2021
Posted by: Cop at Lynah (---.twcny.res.rr.com)
Date: January 23, 2021 05:02AM

NYS is going to allowing "hih risk" High School sports to start on 2/1 with local approval. That includes: basketball,football,ice hockey and lacrosse
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2021
Posted by: Trotsky (---.washdc.fios.verizon.net)
Date: January 23, 2021 06:29AM

Cop at Lynah
NYS is going to allowing "hih risk" High School sports to start on 2/1 with local approval. That includes: basketball,football,ice hockey and lacrosse

Ever get the feeling people are willfully reckless, rather than stupid? Like, it's not actually a hardware limitation, but they simply prefer magical thinking -- they construct the world they want to live in and then, when their decisions result in catastrophe, they say "what can you do?"
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 01/23/2021 06:30AM by Trotsky.
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2021
Posted by: Al DeFlorio (---.hsd1.ma.comcast.net)
Date: January 23, 2021 06:44AM

Trotsky
Cop at Lynah
NYS is going to allowing "hih risk" High School sports to start on 2/1 with local approval. That includes: basketball,football,ice hockey and lacrosse

Ever get the feeling people are willfully reckless, rather than stupid? Like, it's not actually a hardware limitation, but they simply prefer magical thinking -- they construct the world they want to live in and then, when their decisions result in catastrophe, they say "what can you do?"
Or, "it is what it is."

 
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Re: Cornell lacrosse 2021
Posted by: underskill (204.194.190.---)
Date: January 23, 2021 09:52AM

Al DeFlorio
Trotsky
Cop at Lynah
NYS is going to allowing "hih risk" High School sports to start on 2/1 with local approval. That includes: basketball,football,ice hockey and lacrosse

Ever get the feeling people are willfully reckless, rather than stupid? Like, it's not actually a hardware limitation, but they simply prefer magical thinking -- they construct the world they want to live in and then, when their decisions result in catastrophe, they say "what can you do?"
Or, "it is what it is."

Or stop asking kids to live under their beds in fear for no reason.
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2021
Posted by: Al DeFlorio (---.hsd1.ma.comcast.net)
Date: January 23, 2021 02:35PM

underskill
Al DeFlorio
Trotsky
Cop at Lynah
NYS is going to allowing "hih risk" High School sports to start on 2/1 with local approval. That includes: basketball,football,ice hockey and lacrosse

Ever get the feeling people are willfully reckless, rather than stupid? Like, it's not actually a hardware limitation, but they simply prefer magical thinking -- they construct the world they want to live in and then, when their decisions result in catastrophe, they say "what can you do?"
Or, "it is what it is."

Or stop asking kids to live under their beds in fear for no reason.
Truly stupid comment.

 
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Re: Cornell lacrosse 2021
Posted by: Trotsky (---.washdc.fios.verizon.net)
Date: January 25, 2021 03:44PM


 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2021
Posted by: upprdeck (38.77.26.---)
Date: January 25, 2021 05:29PM

really wonder if Ivy is gonna play this year.. no real news at all.

should go to pods and play 2 games every weekend no OC games and start later in the season if they need to.. cut down on travel and away time and ramp up testing if they have too. cornell could easily add the few extra tests they need to do sports, most likely the others could too.
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2021
Posted by: ugarte (---.nyc.res.rr.com)
Date: January 25, 2021 05:34PM

they aren't going to pods for *lacrosse* my friends

 
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Re: Cornell lacrosse 2021
Posted by: upprdeck (38.77.26.---)
Date: February 01, 2021 01:33PM

not good news that Yale is cancelling.. not sure why the Ivies dont allow a season after seeing how it has gone since fall for the big schools around the country. Cornell already testing more than many of these schools that are playing now.. play IVY only H/A schedule and start in march/april or play 2 games a weekend Fri/Sun a few weeks and they could have a season.
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2021
Posted by: Cop at Lynah (---.twcny.res.rr.com)
Date: February 02, 2021 04:13PM

The article on Inside Lacrosse seems to indicate it was for lack of players. 40 players withdrew from school leaving them with only 8 players.

[www.insidelacrosse.com]
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2021
Posted by: upprdeck (38.77.26.---)
Date: February 03, 2021 10:09AM

yeah.. but its also because they didnt think they were gonna play that the players all bailed before the semester started.. games already started and we dont even have a schedule so unless the ivy is gonna play only league games its doubtful right now..

which comes first the ASUN in the NCAA with an AQ or the IVY plays again..
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2021
Posted by: billhoward (---.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net)
Date: February 06, 2021 08:16AM

It's early February. Princeton now Duke All-America Michael Sowers and the Blue Devils make ESPN highlights. Why do the Ivy presidents work to disadvantage athletes when it comes to Covid-19, as well as the ones smart enough to graduate in < 4 years and would like to play while in grad school?

 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2021
Posted by: upprdeck (38.77.26.---)
Date: February 06, 2021 09:29AM

for a place with tons of smart people they sure seem like they try to do stupid things when it comes to sports.. if they dont want kids to really be here then dont have sports at all.
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2021
Posted by: Trotsky (---.washdc.fios.verizon.net)
Date: February 07, 2021 03:30PM

billhoward
Why do the Ivy presidents work to disadvantage athletes when it comes to Covid-19, as well as the ones smart enough to graduate in < 4 years and would like to play while in grad school?

Protect the brand.
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2021
Posted by: margolism (---.nyc.res.rr.com)
Date: February 08, 2021 02:23PM

From Inside Lacrosse:

As Cornell was set to begin instruction for the Spring 2021 term on Monday, Big Red head Connor Buczek sent a letter to supporters of Cornell Lacrosse notifying recipients that the team's status still has no definitive answer, but that a group of players will take a leave of absence in order to play another season at Cornell.

Supporters of Cornell Lacrosse,

I know many of you are anxiously awaiting a decision from the Ivy League regarding spring sport competition. Unfortunately as we begin classes today for the spring semester, there is still no definitive answer. With that in mind, we had to have discussions with our team to set expectations for the spring and help them understand all possible options.

Due to the uncertain nature of this semester and what our team will be able to do in terms of practice, development and competition, there will be a group of players that will take a leave of absence from school for the spring. Ultimately, the odds did not indicate that competition was going to be likely, so we allowed each individual family to make the best decision for them regarding enrollment this spring. The leave of absence guarantees these young men the ability to play another season at Cornell, a place and program that means so much to all of us.

As difficult as this situation has been on all members of our Cornell lacrosse family, I am incredibly proud of the bondedness and selflessness of our players. Collectively, they have handled the impacts of the pandemic with incredible grace and togetherness. Through countless conversations with our team, their families, and alums, it has been a pleasant reminder that it’s the people in our program that makes Cornell lacrosse so special. We look forward to the next time we get to make you all proud by our efforts on the field, but until that time comes, you can rest assured that our group is upholding the standards of Cornell lacrosse in every way they can.

Best wishes to you and your families. Better days to come.

Best,

Connor

IL has not yet learned which players are in the group that has decided to withdraw; check back for more on this developing story.
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2021
Posted by: upprdeck (38.77.26.---)
Date: February 08, 2021 02:47PM

the fact the ivies are sitting into Feb and not made any decision on this is just bad. Kids would have had to make the financial decisions and class decisions weeks ago.
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2021
Posted by: Swampy (---.cdn77.com)
Date: February 08, 2021 10:27PM

margolism
From Inside Lacrosse:

As Cornell was set to begin instruction for the Spring 2021 term on Monday, Big Red head Connor Buczek sent a letter to supporters of Cornell Lacrosse notifying recipients that the team's status still has no definitive answer, but that a group of players will take a leave of absence in order to play another season at Cornell.

Supporters of Cornell Lacrosse,

I know many of you are anxiously awaiting a decision from the Ivy League regarding spring sport competition. Unfortunately as we begin classes today for the spring semester, there is still no definitive answer. With that in mind, we had to have discussions with our team to set expectations for the spring and help them understand all possible options.

Due to the uncertain nature of this semester and what our team will be able to do in terms of practice, development and competition, there will be a group of players that will take a leave of absence from school for the spring. Ultimately, the odds did not indicate that competition was going to be likely, so we allowed each individual family to make the best decision for them regarding enrollment this spring. The leave of absence guarantees these young men the ability to play another season at Cornell, a place and program that means so much to all of us.

As difficult as this situation has been on all members of our Cornell lacrosse family, I am incredibly proud of the bondedness and selflessness of our players. Collectively, they have handled the impacts of the pandemic with incredible grace and togetherness. Through countless conversations with our team, their families, and alums, it has been a pleasant reminder that it’s the people in our program that makes Cornell lacrosse so special. We look forward to the next time we get to make you all proud by our efforts on the field, but until that time comes, you can rest assured that our group is upholding the standards of Cornell lacrosse in every way they can.

Best wishes to you and your families. Better days to come.

Best,

Connor

IL has not yet learned which players are in the group that has decided to withdraw; check back for more on this developing story.

Any idea if these are all seniors? Could be all underclassmen who just don’t want to lose a year, rather than seniors who might otherwise have played their last serious lacrosse game.
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2021
Posted by: upprdeck (38.77.26.---)
Date: February 11, 2021 04:28PM

Ivy to allow 1 yr of grads students now for next yr.. big deal i think
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2021
Posted by: mike1960 (---)
Date: February 11, 2021 05:51PM

There's been discussion of widespread vaccine availability by March. Maybe we'll see some Cornell lacrosse in April and May.
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2021
Posted by: Ken711 (---.washdc.fios.verizon.net)
Date: February 11, 2021 06:44PM

They should have made this decision a long time ago! Some players have already transferred to other schools.
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2021
Posted by: abmarks (---.hsd1.vt.comcast.net)
Date: February 15, 2021 02:30PM

Ivy rejected billionaires offer to spend $5MM+ on an ivy lacrosse bubble

[www.wsj.com]
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2021
Posted by: jtwcornell91 (Moderator)
Date: February 16, 2021 05:29PM

abmarks
Ivy rejected billionaires offer to spend $5MM+ on an ivy lacrosse bubble

[www.wsj.com]

OMG, how bad would the optics of that have been?

 
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Re: Cornell lacrosse 2021
Posted by: Trotsky (---.washdc.fios.verizon.net)
Date: February 17, 2021 06:50PM

jtwcornell91
abmarks
Ivy rejected billionaires offer to spend $5MM+ on an ivy lacrosse bubble

[www.wsj.com]

OMG, how bad would the optics of that have been?
Seriously.

Might as well just grind the poor into slurry for line markers.

Is it time to kill the rich, yet? I'm not being impatient, I'm just curious.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 02/17/2021 06:51PM by Trotsky.
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2021
Posted by: gored (---.ct.cpe.atlanticbb.net)
Date: February 18, 2021 02:01PM

No season this year.
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2021
Posted by: Jeff Hopkins '82 (---.44.98.30.res-cmts.sm.ptd.net)
Date: February 18, 2021 08:13PM

Can't say I'm surprised.
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2021
Posted by: abmarks (---.hsd1.vt.comcast.net)
Date: February 19, 2021 12:08AM

jtwcornell91
abmarks
Ivy rejected billionaires offer to spend $5MM+ on an ivy lacrosse bubble

[www.wsj.com]

OMG, how bad would the optics of that have been?

Serious question here- I don't see the optics problem. One of the western conferences played hockey in a "bubble" around christmas IIRC. What's the difference whether the institutions pay the bill or a wealthy alum does? What am I Missing?
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2021
Posted by: Al DeFlorio (---.hsd1.ma.comcast.net)
Date: February 19, 2021 06:43AM

abmarks
jtwcornell91
abmarks
Ivy rejected billionaires offer to spend $5MM+ on an ivy lacrosse bubble

[www.wsj.com]

OMG, how bad would the optics of that have been?

Serious question here- I don't see the optics problem. One of the western conferences played hockey in a "bubble" around christmas IIRC. What's the difference whether the institutions pay the bill or a wealthy alum does? What am I Missing?
Maybe missing that there are many other men's and women's spring sports as well as non-athletics extracurricular activities that are not happening as a result of Covid.

 
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Re: Cornell lacrosse 2021
Posted by: upprdeck (38.77.26.---)
Date: February 19, 2021 09:08AM

had they accepted the offer they might have also gotten a few other people to step up and do the same thing for other sports.. who knows if the kids would have bought into it either.
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2021
Posted by: margolism (---.nyc.res.rr.com)
Date: February 19, 2021 10:22AM

The posted roster now shows a bunch of people no longer there (like incoming frosh CJ Kirst.)

Similarly, some players that didn't appear in the fall are now on the roster - like Jeff Teat.

Not sure how to interpret all of this.
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2021
Posted by: Redscore (---.hsd1.fl.comcast.net)
Date: February 22, 2021 06:23PM

I interpret this to be trouble. Plain and simple. I don't want to focus on whether the decision was correct or not, but more on what the result of all this will be when the dust settles. Ivy sports may never recover. The fact that Yale is down to 7 players on the Lacrosse team, just a couple of years after winning the national championship, is extremely concerning. We all were proud of the fact that the Ivys, and our school, proved that you could field teams that were national championship contenders while still prioritizing academics. The transfers out of Yale would suggest that Elite players just want to play on Elite teams and won't stay just for the academics. Obviously there are plenty of schools that provide excellent academics without the attitude towards athletics that the Ivys project. This has always been the case but we now have a whole new level of disregard compared to other schools. The impact on our ability to attract great coaches will also be a casualty. We've been lucky in hockey, with Schafer, but not in lacrosse. And now, why would a top-notch coach want to be here after the Ivys have prioritized almost everything else over athletics. Why come here.
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2021
Posted by: upprdeck (38.77.26.---)
Date: February 22, 2021 08:55PM

nothing stopping kids from transferring back into Yale though..
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2021
Posted by: mike1960 (---.wi.res.rr.com)
Date: February 23, 2021 05:05PM

Redscore
I interpret this to be trouble. Plain and simple. I don't want to focus on whether the decision was correct or not, but more on what the result of all this will be when the dust settles. Ivy sports may never recover. The fact that Yale is down to 7 players on the Lacrosse team, just a couple of years after winning the national championship, is extremely concerning. We all were proud of the fact that the Ivys, and our school, proved that you could field teams that were national championship contenders while still prioritizing academics. The transfers out of Yale would suggest that Elite players just want to play on Elite teams and won't stay just for the academics. Obviously there are plenty of schools that provide excellent academics without the attitude towards athletics that the Ivys project. This has always been the case but we now have a whole new level of disregard compared to other schools. The impact on our ability to attract great coaches will also be a casualty. We've been lucky in hockey, with Schafer, but not in lacrosse. And now, why would a top-notch coach want to be here after the Ivys have prioritized almost everything else over athletics. Why come here.

Great points. It could take a years for Ivy schools to develop into title contenders again. I think it will happen with Cornell lacrosse eventually. We have a really good coaching staff now. And schools with deep traditions usually bounce back in college sports.
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2021
Posted by: abmarks (---.hsd1.vt.comcast.net)
Date: February 23, 2021 06:49PM

Redscore
I interpret this to be trouble. Plain and simple. I don't want to focus on whether the decision was correct or not, but more on what the result of all this will be when the dust settles. Ivy sports may never recover. The fact that Yale is down to 7 players on the Lacrosse team, just a couple of years after winning the national championship, is extremely concerning. We all were proud of the fact that the Ivys, and our school, proved that you could field teams that were national championship contenders while still prioritizing academics. The transfers out of Yale would suggest that Elite players just want to play on Elite teams and won't stay just for the academics. Obviously there are plenty of schools that provide excellent academics without the attitude towards athletics that the Ivys project. This has always been the case but we now have a whole new level of disregard compared to other schools. The impact on our ability to attract great coaches will also be a casualty. We've been lucky in hockey, with Schafer, but not in lacrosse. And now, why would a top-notch coach want to be here after the Ivys have prioritized almost everything else over athletics. Why come here.

Iirc, yale was down to seven players because the best majority of the team had just not enrolled for that semester. They didn't all transfer out many were reported to be taking internships or other things and effectively treating as a leave of absence.
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2021
Posted by: billhoward (---.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net)
Date: February 23, 2021 08:31PM

Redscore
I interpret this to be trouble. Plain and simple. I don't want to focus on whether the decision was correct or not, but more on what the result of all this will be when the dust settles. Ivy sports may never recover. The fact that Yale is down to 7 players on the Lacrosse team, just a couple of years after winning the national championship, is extremely concerning. We all were proud of the fact that the Ivys, and our school, proved that you could field teams that were national championship contenders while still prioritizing academics. The transfers out of Yale would suggest that Elite players just want to play on Elite teams and won't stay just for the academics. Obviously there are plenty of schools that provide excellent academics without the attitude towards athletics that the Ivys project. This has always been the case but we now have a whole new level of disregard compared to other schools. The impact on our ability to attract great coaches will also be a casualty. We've been lucky in hockey, with Schafer, but not in lacrosse. And now, why would a top-notch coach want to be here after the Ivys have prioritized almost everything else over athletics. Why come here.
Because how many of the 74 NCAA D1 programs are more top-notch than Cornell? Five, ten? Better could be better salary or it could be better place to be a coach.

On pay, FWIW, Brown coach Lars Tiffany jumped to Virginia for a salary of $165,000 (plus $115,000 incidental income plus a $25,000 first year bonus). Outgoing and long-time coach Dominick Starsia had been making $150,000 salary plus $100,000 incidental income. $150K for a Cornell head lacrosse coach seems possible but not the incidental income thing. I'm not sure how much life is better at 250 than 150.

It's hard to know how much money former Cornell lax coach Jeff Tambroni makes in Happy Valley. Penn State is a public university but the school has long masked coaching salaries and so far gotten away with it. According to this story in the Centre Valley Times, written by Cornell grad Sarah Paez in 2019, the top 25 earners outside the schools officers (such as the president, $826K) in 2018 were the head football coach at $1.61M, the AD Sandy Barbouur at $728K, football assistant Brent Pry at $694,000. and a bunch of doctors at $1.34M down to $602,000. So Tambroni makes less than that. Actually the top earners included ex-President Graham Spannier, forced out in 2011 (football sex scandal fallout) and still on the payroll at $600K per through 2017. [www.centredaily.com]

On working conditions, Cornell has tradition on its side, a winning history in lacrosse and hockey, it's a nice place to live, there are first rate schools for your kids in Ithaca and Lansing, and decent if not stupendous facilities. It's one of the top 10 jobs in college lacrosse and if you're a coach looking to move up, how many of those top jobs come available each year, 2, maybe 3? Cornell probably holds the record for most lax head coaches in the decade 2021-2020, but that's an outlier. Princeton is the other Ivy school that could be considered a top ten lax school in a combination of salary, facilities, and awesome alumni support especially the cadre of graduated athletes.

An Ivy coach should be annoyed about sports being shut down, but 500,000 dead from Covid is not your usual year. I believe the quote one-time grad student eligibility thing for 2021-2022 will become permanent the following year, or year after that.
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2021
Posted by: margolism (---.nyc.res.rr.com)
Date: March 12, 2021 01:04PM

Teat earns a spot on the 2021 Tewaaraton Award watch list.

A bit surprising given that his numbers are really, really down this season.
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2021
Posted by: billhoward (---.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net)
Date: March 12, 2021 01:48PM

margolism
Teat earns a spot on the 2021 Tewaaraton Award watch list.

A bit surprising given that his numbers are really, really down this season.
Teat might have a shot at being the Cornell Daily Sun senior male athlete of the year twice.
[cornellsun.com]
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2021
Posted by: jeff '84 (---.dyn.optonline.net)
Date: March 25, 2021 07:38PM

Huh?

Penn Moves Into Ivy 'Stage Four,' Can Compete Starting This Weekend

[www.insidelacrosse.com]

Edit - Penn will be “competing in abbreviated seasons against strictly local competition. No team will face any Ivy League foes.”

[www.thedp.com]
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 03/25/2021 07:42PM by jeff '84.
 

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