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will cornell cut teams?

Posted by upprdeck 
will cornell cut teams?
Posted by: upprdeck (38.77.26.---)
Date: April 14, 2020 11:54AM

I see some schools already cutting programs with budget issues around the country.
 
Re: will cornell cut teams?
Posted by: Trotsky (---.washdc.fios.verizon.net)
Date: April 14, 2020 01:43PM

I'm not sure why. If school's out expenditures should be close to zero.
 
Re: will cornell cut teams?
Posted by: billhoward (---.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net)
Date: April 14, 2020 02:40PM

What would you cut? The teams that get little revenue and fans-in-attendance may be the ones with the students have to have been most student-like - the closest to the student-athlete ideal.

An easy cut at most schools is wrestling because there is no women's wrestling team. You can't pull that off at Cornell.

Men's gymnastics was cut long ago, so there's only women's gymnastics to cut, and then you have a Title IX imbalance if women's gymnastics is the counterpoint to mens' wrestling.

If there are budget issues - say a lawsusit forces Cornell to reimburse half of spring tuition because that's the value of remote learning - this is when sports-supporting alumni would step in, perhaps to the detriment of less-essential parts of the university, such as instruction.

Who's going to be hurt: The lesser (academically) D1 schools, also D2 and D3. Since the peak of incoming freshmen circa 2010, numbers have gone down, and schools that can't fill entering classes will be hurt. If you have an acceptance rate over 60%, you're in jeopardy, especially if you're a private school charging $30K-$50K tuititon. If it's over 75%-80%, jeopardy squared. Even a Syracuse (45% accept rate) should be okay because it's better than a lot of other schools.
 
Re: will cornell cut teams?
Posted by: ugarte (---.nyc.res.rr.com)
Date: April 14, 2020 09:10PM

Trotsky
I'm not sure why. If school's out expenditures should be close to zero.
because football finances a lot of athletic departments and fall football with a live crowd seems increasingly unlikely. And unless the schools furlough their entire coaching and training staffs (which would be catastrophic) the expenses are not near zero. Old Dominion cut wrestling; Cincinnati cut men's soccer.

that said, i hope it doesn't happen. It would be terrible.

 
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Re: will cornell cut teams?
Posted by: cu155 (---.static.gorillaservers.com)
Date: April 14, 2020 10:06PM

ugarte
Trotsky
I'm not sure why. If school's out expenditures should be close to zero.
because football finances a lot of athletic departments and fall football with a live crowd seems increasingly unlikely. And unless the schools furlough their entire coaching and training staffs (which would be catastrophic) the expenses are not near zero. Old Dominion cut wrestling; Cincinnati cut men's soccer.

that said, i hope it doesn't happen. It would be terrible.

Have you ever seen a breakdown on which Cornell sports are endowed/funded primarily by alumni donations? I believe, but could be mistaken, that Lightweight Rowing, and perhaps the entire crew organization is primarily funded through various endowed funds and annual alumni support. This may be true of some other Cornell sports as well, and would hopefully lessen any risk of Cornell cutting anything.
 
Re: will cornell cut teams?
Posted by: billhoward (---.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net)
Date: April 15, 2020 04:10PM

ugarte
because football finances a lot of athletic departments and fall football with a live crowd seems increasingly unlikely.
Something tells me Cornell does not rely on football-attendance revenues to keep other sports afloat.
 
Re: will cornell cut teams?
Posted by: ugarte (---.nyc.res.rr.com)
Date: April 15, 2020 04:23PM

billhoward
ugarte
because football finances a lot of athletic departments and fall football with a live crowd seems increasingly unlikely.
Something tells me Cornell does not rely on football-attendance revenues to keep other sports afloat.
i think that is correct

 
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Re: will cornell cut teams?
Posted by: CU2007 (---.sub-174-228-11.myvzw.com)
Date: April 18, 2020 05:58PM

Kill the polo team. Probably costs a fortune to maintain the horses ... and I’m sure someone thinks it’s cruel, so there’s your excuse.

Just looked and saw we had a sailing team? Never knew that. There’s another cut. Boats ain’t cheap
 
Re: will cornell cut teams?
Posted by: upprdeck (38.77.26.---)
Date: April 18, 2020 07:00PM

I think both of those are self funded though
 
Re: will cornell cut teams?
Posted by: French Rage (---.hsd1.ca.comcast.net)
Date: April 18, 2020 09:43PM

Also water polo, because it's an even bigger waste of money teaching the horses to swim.

 
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