Cornell Football 2019

Now 16-47 in the Archer era. Need to schedule Marist if want a homecoming win.

ugarte
i don't know what the first three quarters looked like but the 4th quarter was butt

Defense played OK, offense wasn't very good.

Could we be staring down 1-9? Today was very much suboptimal.

Have a chance vs Brown

CAS
Have a chance vs Brown

Should beat Brown and perhaps Colgate as they are really awful.

I’ll take the under.

And of course upset Harvard.

CAS
I’ll take the under.

Colgate is 0-6 after a loss today against Lehigh (Update: now 0-7). Another fun fact David Archer as both an assistant and as a head coach at Cornell has never coached a team that finished greater than .500 winning percentage.

I’ll still take the under.

Georgetown 14, Cornell 8: It should have been better, it could have been worse. Saturday:

* Cornell was the only Ivy not to get double-digit points
* Fordham and Howard were easily disposed of by Yale (48-24) and Harvard (62-17).
* 0-4 Rhode Island managed to beat Brown 31-28 although Brown QB EJ Perry put up 420 yards and 3 TDs. That's a lot of offense no matter who your opponent is. Are we sure Brown can be handled Oct. 26? At least we have the home field. We can get a comparison Saturday vs. Harvard. Crimson already handled Brown by 35.

Well, the weather (and attendance, 8745 announced) was fabulous Saturday. On weather, we're 3-0. Even if Fireworks Friday and Hangover Sunday were chilly then drizzly. Homecoming of the last decade has been pretty good ever since Cornell decided to put seed / investment (in alumni relations) money into an early-fall event that draws a LOT of alumni and unlike reunions is the best way to see friends from adjacent classes.

Thx for the report Bill. Wish the university would also put money into the football program.

Watched the Pats-Redskins game yesterday. Redskins' offense is as unimaginative as ours, with similarly slow-to-develop plays and braindead playcalling. Skins are now 0-5. Fired their coach after the game. Maybe a lesson?

Al DeFlorio
Watched the Pats-Redskins game yesterday. Redskins' offense is as unimaginative as ours, with similarly slow-to-develop plays and braindead playcalling. Skins are now 0-5. Fired their coach after the game. Maybe a lesson?

If Jay Gruden is anything like brother Jon in sports-related things, I'd pay for him to keep coaching just so he's not on TV. PS: Deadspin reports the Redskins had Gruden come to the stadium today for a 5 a.m. meeting. That is cold.

billhoward

Al DeFlorio
Watched the Pats-Redskins game yesterday. Redskins' offense is as unimaginative as ours, with similarly slow-to-develop plays and braindead playcalling. Skins are now 0-5. Fired their coach after the game. Maybe a lesson?

If Jay Gruden is anything like brother Jon in sports-related things, I'd pay for him to keep coaching just so he's not on TV. PS: Deadspin reports the Redskins had Gruden come to the stadium today for a 5 a.m. meeting. That is cold.

He was already deadman walking after the supposed video of him smoking weed surfaced.

[www.complex.com]

i don't think it's all the playcalling. i think the offense is simply not good. catanese was being chased around and when he had time to throw the ball nobody had any idea where it was going. coles never had a chance with the lack of respect the defense was giving the qb.

ugarte
i don't think it's all the playcalling. i think the offense is simply not good. catanese was being chased around and when he had time to throw the ball nobody had any idea where it was going. coles never had a chance with the lack of respect the defense was giving the qb.

Our O-line is mediocre relative to our level.

ugarte
i don't think it's all the playcalling. i think the offense is simply not good. catanese was being chased around and when he had time to throw the ball nobody had any idea where it was going. coles never had a chance with the lack of respect the defense was giving the qb.

Running the "full-house" backfield as often as Cornell did telegraphed "run" against a top-notch defense and too often Georgetown just packed it in and stuffed the ballcarrier.

Al DeFlorio

ugarte
i don't think it's all the playcalling. i think the offense is simply not good. catanese was being chased around and when he had time to throw the ball nobody had any idea where it was going. coles never had a chance with the lack of respect the defense was giving the qb.

Running the "full-house" backfield as often as Cornell did telegraphed "run" against a top-notch defense and too often Georgetown just packed it in and stuffed the ballcarrier.

Teams are going to stack the box and make Cornell beat them with the passing game, With a suspect Ol, that's going to be quite a challenge.

Must be saving the hybrid warfare for late season Ivy games.

CAS
Must be saving the hybrid warfare for late season Ivy games.

Another of the touted "schematics" was to get the ball to Harold Coles in the open field. The only attempts I've seen to date are screen passes where there are more defenders than blockers set up in the screen.

Ken711
Practice has started for the Big Red, and they still haven't hired a QB coach...TBA.

Almost four games in, Archer may have finally found someone.

George64

Ken711
Practice has started for the Big Red, and they still haven't hired a QB coach...TBA.

Almost four games in, Archer may have finally found someone.

Kinda suggests that getting someone to come to Ithaca was a bit of a challenge.

George64

Ken711
Practice has started for the Big Red, and they still haven't hired a QB coach...TBA.

Almost four games in, Archer may have finally found someone.

No he's not going to have an on-field position. He just replaces the position formerly held by Alex Peffley who was the Assistant to the Head Coach, but then was bumped up to the Director of Football Operations (DPO) position when the previous DPO Ryan McNamee left for the same position at UNLV as their DPO.

Cornell scores first over a Harvard turnover. 7-0 Cornell.

Our touchdown came after a fumble recovery deep in Harvard territory. Otherwise our offense has been inept. Defense has been good, although Harvard now at our 27.

Harvard offense waking up, 7-7 now.

Cornell scores a FG off of another turnover 10-7 Cornell.

Harvard finally takes the lead 14-10 on a quick drive.

Cornell interception leads to Harvard TD, 21-10 Harvard. Offense can't get anything going. Cornell had 65 total yards to Harvard's 185 yards so far.

Ken711
Cornell interception leads to Harvard TD, 21-10 Harvard. Offense can't get anything going. Cornell had 65 total yards to Harvard's 185 yards so far.

If Kenney’s the best we have with 4 other QB’s on the roster, that’s an indictment of the recruiting.

scoop85

Ken711
Cornell interception leads to Harvard TD, 21-10 Harvard. Offense can't get anything going. Cornell had 65 total yards to Harvard's 185 yards so far.

If Kenney’s the best we have with 4 other QB’s on the roster, that’s an indictment of the recruiting.

Give an underclassman a shot. Can't be any worse.

scoop85

Ken711
Cornell interception leads to Harvard TD, 21-10 Harvard. Offense can't get anything going. Cornell had 65 total yards to Harvard's 185 yards so far.

If Kenney’s the best we have with 4 other QB’s on the roster, that’s an indictment of the recruiting.

Recruiting and coaching. Cornell hasn't had a QB coach with college playing experience in any of the 7 years under Archer! Whatever QBs are recruited never have a chance to develop.

Well, at least soccer is up 2-0 on Harvard after 20 minutes, and it could easily be 4-0. Harvard is to soccer as Cornell is to football.

scoop85
Well, at least soccer is up 2-0 on Harvard after 20 minutes, and it could easily be 4-0. Harvard is to soccer as Cornell is to football.

Now it is 4-0 with 25 minutes left. Harvard has perhaps the softest defense I’ve ever seen at the D-1 level.

Colgate who is Cornell's next opponent lost today to formerly winless Bucknell, and is now 0-7. At least Cornell will notch their second win of the season next Saturday.

Ken711
Colgate who is Cornell's next opponent lost today to formerly winless Bucknell, and is now 0-7. At least Cornell will notch their second win of the season next Saturday.

Don't tempt fate. Archer has a way of screwing things up.

In the Archer era, Cornell is now 11-33 in Ivy play, & losers of their last 6 Ivy games.

CAS
In the Archer era, Cornell is now 11-33 in Ivy play, & losers of their last 6 Ivy games.

You mean a .250 winning percentage isn't good?

Catanese out for the season. Time to give an underclassman a shot.

Jeff Hopkins '82

Ken711
Colgate who is Cornell's next opponent lost today to formerly winless Bucknell, and is now 0-7. At least Cornell will notch their second win of the season next Saturday.

Don't tempt fate. Archer has a way of screwing things up.

14-3.... Colgate in the second.

Chris '03

Jeff Hopkins '82

Ken711
Colgate who is Cornell's next opponent lost today to formerly winless Bucknell, and is now 0-7. At least Cornell will notch their second win of the season next Saturday.

Don't tempt fate. Archer has a way of screwing things up.

14-3.... Colgate in the second.

14-10 Colgate at the half, although it was almost 20-3 Colgate if not for the fumble recovery and TD.

Lost 21-20 yuck

Yet to play Princeton and Dartmouth (both 5-0), virtually assured of another losing season. First exhibition hockey game tomorrow!

Jeff Hopkins '82

Ken711
Colgate who is Cornell's next opponent lost today to formerly winless Bucknell, and is now 0-7. At least Cornell will notch their second win of the season next Saturday.

Don't tempt fate. Archer has a way of screwing things up.

How right you were and wrong I was, Can't beat an 0-7 team, at home? Is it time to start the fire Archer again chorus now?

Ken711

How right you were and wrong I was, Can't beat an 0-7 team, at home? Is it time to start the fire Archer again chorus now?

Stebbins is a very promising freshman, but unfortunately Coles, Taylor and Jones are Seniors.

One way or another, this darkness got to give.

CAS
One way or another, this darkness got to give.

Is Andy retiring?

George64
Yet to play Princeton and Dartmouth (both 5-0), virtually assured of another losing season. First exhibition hockey game tomorrow!

And Columbia just pounded Penn....

Despite the game Cornell falls short again. Cornell for years has what I would call "spotty" talent. Certainly some excellent players but not enough good talent across the board and it limits Cornell's efforts
to win. Today in a number of cases we saw poor execution especially on the part of the offense. Good players make good plays and Cornell does not have enough.

Cornell in the Archer era is now 16-49 & losers of 8 of their last 9, with the one win being against Marist. The nationally televised game vs Princeton (ESPNU) before friends & family at Schoellkopf on Fri nite, Nov 1 could be ugly...

What was the weather like on Saturday? More than a little surprised that Null didn't try from 52.

ugarte
What was the weather like on Saturday? More than a little surprised that Null didn't try from 52.

Null has been battling an injury that's why Garret Patela did the field goal kicking, and Null was limited to punts.

Ken711

ugarte
What was the weather like on Saturday? More than a little surprised that Null didn't try from 52.

Null has been battling an injury that's why Garret Patela did the field goal kicking, and Null was limited to punts.

yeah i know - but he hit from 48 against harvard. i guess he knows best if it's in his range.

ugarte

Ken711

ugarte
What was the weather like on Saturday? More than a little surprised that Null didn't try from 52.

Null has been battling an injury that's why Garret Patela did the field goal kicking, and Null was limited to punts.

yeah i know - but he hit from 48 against harvard. i guess he knows best if it's in his range.

He's not even handling kick offs which again goes to any placekicking motions that he's obviously not able to perform.

Halfway through the season, we're 1-4 and no other game is a likely win. Brown and Penn are possibilities for W's, Columbia less so after clobbering Penn 44-6. 2-8 seems a likely finish. It's beyond the point where sniping here about the coach is going to have an impact. The worse we do in 2019, the better odds of change. Jeff Archer is a dead man walking the sideline. Let's hope Cornell can find somebody decent to step in.

We have had football coaches before who looked good on paper but turned out not be be successful: George Seifert comes to mind. (Yes, that was written in Irony font.) Maxie Baughan brought Cornell to the edge of excellence until he was undone by a loose zipper. But even those good years were three decades ago.

Meanwhile, Princeton and Dartmouth are in the top 20 in D1 FCS standings.

I don't think Cornell players are giving any less effort the the players at Dartmouth or Princeton. It's the system.

billhoward
Halfway through the season, we're 1-4 and no other game is a likely win. Brown and Penn are possibilities for W's, Columbia less so after clobbering Penn 44-6. 2-8 seems a likely finish. It's beyond the point where sniping here about the coach is going to have an impact. The worse we do in 2019, the better odds of change. Jeff Archer is a dead man walking the sideline. Let's hope Cornell can find somebody decent to step in. (So is Dave Archer)

We have had football coaches before who looked good on paper but turned out not be be successful: George Seifert comes to mind. (Yes, that was written in Irony font.) Maxie Baughan brought Cornell to the edge of excellence until he was undone by a loose zipper. But even those good years were three decades ago.

Meanwhile, Princeton and Dartmouth are in the top 20 in D1 FCS standings.

I don't think Cornell players are giving any less effort the the players at Dartmouth or Princeton. It's the system.

It's up to the athletic administration to fully get behind the program as they do for other sports like wrestling and hockey if you expect real change, Where are the facilities upgrades like the indoor practice facility? Cornell football needs a look at the program from the outside as Columbia did when they brought in a football consultant outside of their athletic department. End result, they have better coaching and facilities, including an indoor practice facility. Cornell can improve their football program, the question is will they.

billhoward
... 2-8 seems a likely finish...

Seriously? i think that's optimistic.

Cornell Sun pre-game story: [cornellsun.com]

Both teams 0-2 Ivy, 1-4 overall. Brown just gave up 65 to Princeton but put up 22 against a top-20

This is Cornell's best chance for a second W in 2019.

lgr. I don't have the confidence to use caps.

The next week, Princeton, will not be pretty.

Next week’s game vs Princeton at Schoellkopf will be nationally televised (ESPNU). Definitely won’t be pretty. Tigers beat the Red 66-0 last year. Any guess what attendance will be? (kickoff Friday at 6:00).

Family and friends only until halftime then the friends will head off to frat parties

So Princeton and Dartmouth are undefeated and the class of the Ivy League and BOTH have indoor practices have competed or under construction to aid in recruitment and player development, It's not rocket science that unless Cornell natch up with their facility improvement in this aeaa, that Cornell remain in the bottom of the Ivy League recruitment and success;

Harold Coles is out for today's game.

Great, aggressive opening drive and TD by Howard nullified by hands to the face but Null nails a 39-yarder. Cornell 3 Brown 0

Brown scores a touchdown, and it’s going to be a long day if we can’t get any pressure on Perry. What a difference to have a real QB.

Brown's QB Perry doesn't belong at this level. Easy drive down field ending in a 29 yard TD pass. Cornell stops the run PAT. Brown 6 Cornell 3, late 1st

scoop85
Brown scores a touchdown, and it’s going to be a long day if we can’t get any pressure on Perry. What a difference to have a real QB.

To be fair this guy is the coach's nephew and transferred from BC. He's an FBS QB playing in a terrible FCS league, where he is 7th in the country in total offense.

We aren't stopping him; we need to score 40.

OTOH Brown's defense is a hot mess. We just need to punch it in.

Another penalty pushes us back from inside the 5 to settle for a FG. Cornell 6 Brown 6, late 1st

Two drives in the red zone, 2 FGs because of penalties and a poor pass by Kenny on what should’ve been a TD. 6-6 late in the 1st. Given that Brown will almost certainly put up 30+ points, we can’t settle for FGs.

scoop85
Two drives in the red zone, 2 FGs because of penalties and a poor pass by Kenny on what should’ve been a TD. 6-6 late in the 1st. Given that Brown will almost certainly put up 30+ points, we can’t settle for FGs.

I mean I guess if we get 14 of them...

The Cornell secondary is doing a decent job, but they’re defenseless with no pass rush. It’s an embarrassment.

scoop85
The Cornell secondary is doing a decent job, but they’re defenseless with no pass rush. It’s an embarrassment.

Looks like it will have to be a game of great individual plays. The Taylor INT helped. Maybe we can guess right and turn one of Perry's flat passes into a Pick 6.

3rd and 4th down short yardage stops for Cornell D to begin Q2! Nice.

One more big penalty. Discipline?

3 passes from Kenney-Fitzgerald chew up the field and give us the lead. Cornell 13 Brown 6

Al DeFlorio
One more big penalty. Discipline?

They survived this one but it's certainly an issue. Penalty yardage currently 55-5 and that's not including the 30 yards and TD Howard lost on the first drive.

After the D gets a 4th down stop, a nice Cornell drive ends in a TD pass to the TE for a 13-6 lead. Credit to Kenny for some nice passes on the drive—I’ve been tough on him but he looked good there.

scoop85
After the D gets a 4th down stop, a nice Cornell drive ends in a TD pass to the TE for a 13-6 lead. Credit to Kenny for some nice passes on the drive—I’ve been tough on him but he looked good there.

He got some protection that drive.

Great blocked punt and return for a TD, Cornell 20 Brown 6, mid 2nd quarter

Halfway to 40.

Another big penalty helps a last-second Brown TD.

Perry leads Brown 90+ yards in the 2-minute drill to score but muffs the kick. Cornell 20 Brown 12, halftime

Al DeFlorio
Another big penalty helps a last-second Brown TD.[/quote

Worse for me was a missed sack. Our guy had a clean shot at Perry around the Cornell 30-yard line, but he was able to elude the defender and completed about a 10-yard pass.

Perry leads Brown right down the field to start the second half; we stop the third PAT. Cornell 20 Brown 18

Great drive right back for the Red culminating in an SK Howard 5 yard TD run. Cornell 27 Brown 18, mid 3rd

Cornell answers on a 7-yard run by Howard to put Cornell ahead 27-18.

I love that the referee sounds exactly like Eddie Murphy's "cill my landlord" character.

We have a running back, folks. SK Howard 40 yard TD run; Cornell 34 Brown 25, end of 3rd quarter

Howard is 17 rushes for 113 yards and 2 TDs.

Trotsky
We have a running back, folks. SK Howard 40 yard TD run; Cornell 34 Brown 25, end of 3rd quarter

Howard is 17 rushes for 113 yards and 2 TDs.

He’s been solid for sure. Brown’s defense is pretty atrocious too.

I may be an old guy, but I’ve finally reached the conclusion that football coaches are imbeciles (Belichick excepted I guess).

scoop85
I may be an old guy, but I’ve finally reached the conclusion that football coaches are imbeciles (Belichick excepted I guess).

He's not an imbecile. Just an asshole.

Brown back with a solid drive ending in Perry's 3rd TD pass. Cornell 34 Brown 32, 6:58 to play

We need a nice, time-consuming drive.

Jeff Hopkins '82

scoop85
I may be an old guy, but I’ve finally reached the conclusion that football coaches are imbeciles (Belichick excepted I guess).

He's not an imbecile. Just an asshole.

Yeah, I get that. But as far as coaching goes, he’s so far ahead of the curve it’s embarrassing for the rest of them.

And so we go three and out for the first time all game.

Trotsky
And so we go three and out for the first time all game.

Predictable. Brown seemed to change things up on defense and of course we’re powerless to respond in kind.

Perry really likes to throw as he's going down. Be nice to make him pay for that.

We hold Brown 3 and out, force the punt, drop the return and give Brown the ball on our 15.

Well. That was suboptimal.

Brown gets a 35 yard FG. Brown 35 Cornell 34, 4:17 to go

Just a pathetic team and program. Bad players and worse coaches

This was a solid effort. Excellent second quarter undone by a horrific fourth quarter.

36 seconds to get into FG range from about the Cornell 28