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Cornell lacrosse 2019

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Re: Cornell lacrosse 2019
Posted by: Al DeFlorio (---.hsd1.ma.comcast.net)
Date: March 08, 2019 07:59PM

Video now showing pre-game warmups for Towson-JU game. Not a good sign.

 
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Re: Cornell lacrosse 2019
Posted by: mike1960 (---.wi.res.rr.com)
Date: March 08, 2019 08:02PM

Al DeFlorio
Video now showing pre-game warmups for Towson-JU game. Not a good sign.

I had to download the periscope app and watch it on my iPad. Although there has not been a lot good to see so far.
Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 03/08/2019 08:15PM by mike1960.
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2019
Posted by: Al DeFlorio (---.hsd1.ma.comcast.net)
Date: March 08, 2019 08:18PM

it's on pscp.tv. Two Cornell possessions and two throwaways.

 
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Re: Cornell lacrosse 2019
Posted by: semsox (---.bstnma.fios.verizon.net)
Date: March 08, 2019 08:29PM

Been as big a defender of Bullen as there is, but it's time to put Ierlan in.
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2019
Posted by: Al DeFlorio (---.hsd1.ma.comcast.net)
Date: March 08, 2019 08:29PM

Ierlan warming up.

 
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Re: Cornell lacrosse 2019
Posted by: TimV (---.hsd1.ma.comcast.net)
Date: March 08, 2019 08:30PM

semsox
Been as big a defender of Bullen as there is, but it's time to put Ierlan in.

Ya think???

 
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Re: Cornell lacrosse 2019
Posted by: Al DeFlorio (---.hsd1.ma.comcast.net)
Date: March 08, 2019 08:31PM

Ierlan save. And offense throws it away again.

 
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Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 03/08/2019 08:32PM by Al DeFlorio.
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2019
Posted by: semsox (---.bstnma.fios.verizon.net)
Date: March 08, 2019 08:32PM

And he makes 3 saves in the first PSU offensive possession.
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2019
Posted by: Al DeFlorio (---.hsd1.ma.comcast.net)
Date: March 08, 2019 08:34PM

Depressing thing is Penn held PSU to a one goal win. 9-2 and another throwaway. 10-2, win faceoff, throw it away. That's at least five throwaways.

 
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Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 03/08/2019 08:43PM by Al DeFlorio.
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2019
Posted by: mike1960 (---.wi.res.rr.com)
Date: March 08, 2019 08:42PM

Al DeFlorio
Depressing thing is Penn held PSU to a one goal win. 9-2 and another throwaway.

Can't watch anymore.
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2019
Posted by: upprdeck (---.syrcny.east.verizon.net)
Date: March 08, 2019 08:47PM

this wet field is not helping an already bad situation.. so many sloppy passes
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2019
Posted by: Al DeFlorio (---.hsd1.ma.comcast.net)
Date: March 08, 2019 08:54PM

upprdeck
this wet field is not helping an already bad situation.. so many sloppy passes
We keep slipping and falling. Happened in the Schoellkopf games, too.

 
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Re: Cornell lacrosse 2019
Posted by: scoop85 (---.hvc.res.rr.com)
Date: March 08, 2019 09:15PM

Well, we actually outscored them 3-2 in the 2nd to make it 11-5 at the half. Probably too big a hill to climb, but I hope we play well in the 2nd half to at least feel better about where we stand as a team.
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2019
Posted by: Al DeFlorio (---.hsd1.ma.comcast.net)
Date: March 08, 2019 09:24PM

PSU middies continue to get open shots. Too easy.

PSU faceoff violation. We throw it away.

 
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Re: Cornell lacrosse 2019
Posted by: Al DeFlorio (---.hsd1.ma.comcast.net)
Date: March 08, 2019 09:32PM

Three close-in shots to pull within four but all missed net. Then PSU makes it six again.

 
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Re: Cornell lacrosse 2019
Posted by: LGR14 (---.hsd1.va.comcast.net)
Date: March 08, 2019 09:43PM

Pretty clear that Ierlan is the answer in goal and that this season is really going to come down to winning enough faceoffs or getting good D - either one would be sufficient, both would be great.
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2019
Posted by: Al DeFlorio (---.hsd1.ma.comcast.net)
Date: March 08, 2019 09:52PM

Pulled to within 14-11 but then couldn't win a face-off. 17-11

 
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Re: Cornell lacrosse 2019
Posted by: Al DeFlorio (---.hsd1.ma.comcast.net)
Date: March 08, 2019 10:03PM

30 of 35 PSU shots were on goal. 20 of 30 for Cornell.

 
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Re: Cornell lacrosse 2019
Posted by: upprdeck (---.syrcny.east.verizon.net)
Date: March 08, 2019 10:26PM

unforced errors and struggles on the X against a good offense are bad things

good news is once we made the goalie change it was a 1 goal game even winning almost no faceoffs
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2019
Posted by: Ken711 (---.washdc.fios.verizon.net)
Date: March 09, 2019 09:21AM

I hope Chayse Ierlan has won the starting position and can settle in for the remainder of the season.
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2019
Posted by: rss77 (---.twcny.res.rr.com)
Date: March 09, 2019 01:20PM

See that the FOGO Andrews had only one faceoff. Not sure why
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2019
Posted by: mike1960 (---.wi.res.rr.com)
Date: March 10, 2019 01:21PM

Is anyone having any luck getting the webcast?

Thanks.
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2019
Posted by: upprdeck (---.syrcny.east.verizon.net)
Date: March 10, 2019 01:24PM

off to another awful start.. not sure video is wise for the eyes
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2019
Posted by: scoop85 (---.hvc.res.rr.com)
Date: March 10, 2019 01:25PM

Appears there's no video. But given that we're down 5-2 and have given up 2 goals to a long pole, maybe that's not a bad thing.
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2019
Posted by: nshapiro (---.phlapa.fios.verizon.net)
Date: March 10, 2019 01:31PM

working now
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2019
Posted by: upprdeck (---.syrcny.east.verizon.net)
Date: March 10, 2019 01:31PM

video is up now

[twitter.com]
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2019
Posted by: Al DeFlorio (---.hsd1.ma.comcast.net)
Date: March 10, 2019 01:39PM

5 straight and it's 7-5 Red early 2nd

 
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Re: Cornell lacrosse 2019
Posted by: nshapiro (---.phlapa.fios.verizon.net)
Date: March 10, 2019 01:40PM

is there any way to pause the stream to get it in sync with the whcu commentary?
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2019
Posted by: George64 (---.hsd1.fl.comcast.net)
Date: March 10, 2019 01:44PM

Cornell on an 8 goal run. Petterson with 6. 8-5 Cornell.
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2019
Posted by: Al DeFlorio (---.hsd1.ma.comcast.net)
Date: March 10, 2019 01:45PM

now 7 straight - 9-5 Red

10-5

11-5

 
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Re: Cornell lacrosse 2019
Posted by: George64 (---.hsd1.fl.comcast.net)
Date: March 10, 2019 01:49PM

10-5. Petterson with 7!
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2019
Posted by: Al DeFlorio (---.hsd1.ma.comcast.net)
Date: March 10, 2019 01:55PM

At least 3 of Towson's 6 goals have come on a fast break or a FOGO rush.

 
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Re: Cornell lacrosse 2019
Posted by: upprdeck (---.syrcny.east.verizon.net)
Date: March 10, 2019 02:39PM

the stats say cornell has only won 6 of 25 draws. thast crazy to be winning
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2019
Posted by: Al DeFlorio (---.hsd1.ma.comcast.net)
Date: March 10, 2019 02:51PM

Cornell man-down 11 times

 
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Re: Cornell lacrosse 2019
Posted by: upprdeck (---.syrcny.east.verizon.net)
Date: March 10, 2019 03:10PM

what was that last penalty on cornell, when they were calling for timeout and didnt get it..
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2019
Posted by: dag14 (---.dhcp.bhn.net)
Date: March 10, 2019 03:13PM

3rd FO violation, Then the coach went ballistic and someone got an unsportsmanlike conduct violation. Not sure if it was the coach or Griff Buczek as it was hard to tell from the radio broadcast where it sounded like Griff got the penalty, not that he was just serving the penalty
.
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2019
Posted by: upprdeck (---.syrcny.east.verizon.net)
Date: March 10, 2019 03:20PM

but the last last penalty cornell had the ball in offensive end and then something was called..

too many penalties, not sure which is worse to have that or no wins on the X
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2019
Posted by: CU2007 (---.nyc.res.rr.com)
Date: March 10, 2019 03:38PM

Statement win. And nice bounce back from a tough loss.
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2019
Posted by: mike1960 (---.wi.res.rr.com)
Date: March 10, 2019 04:18PM

CU2007
Statement win. And nice bounce back from a tough loss.

Absolutely!
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 03/10/2019 06:33PM by mike1960.
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2019
Posted by: Al DeFlorio (---.hsd1.ma.comcast.net)
Date: March 10, 2019 04:31PM

upprdeck
but the last last penalty cornell had the ball in offensive end and then something was called..

too many penalties, not sure which is worse to have that or no wins on the X
Penalties were the price paid for a very aggressive D that caused a zillion turnovers and probably intimidated several more. Black unis spent a lot of time on the turf.

 
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Re: Cornell lacrosse 2019
Posted by: scoop85 (---.hvc.res.rr.com)
Date: March 10, 2019 04:44PM

Al DeFlorio
upprdeck
but the last last penalty cornell had the ball in offensive end and then something was called..

too many penalties, not sure which is worse to have that or no wins on the X
Penalties were the price paid for a very aggressive D that caused a zillion turnovers and probably intimidated several more. Black unis spent a lot of time on the turf.

We’re going to need to creat lots of turnovers next Saturday since we’ll be fortunate to win even 10% of the draws. But today showed the formula for winning when you can’t win faceoffs. And when you have as versatile an offense as we have, we should be able to compete with about anyone.
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2019
Posted by: upprdeck (---.syrcny.east.verizon.net)
Date: March 10, 2019 05:23PM

so why did rasimowicz only take draws in the 2nd half?
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2019
Posted by: billhoward (---.nwrk.east.verizon.net)
Date: March 10, 2019 05:33PM

Al DeFlorio
upprdeck
but the last last penalty cornell had the ball in offensive end and then something was called..

too many penalties, not sure which is worse to have that or no wins on the X
Penalties were the price paid for a very aggressive D that caused a zillion turnovers and probably intimidated several more. Black unis spent a lot of time on the turf.
Here are so more stats. I believe I got them transcribed.
                            Towson   Cornell
Faceoffs won                26        6
Forced turnovers             7       14
Unforced turnovers by opp    7        9
Failed clear by opp          2        7
Saves made                   8       10
Got the ball/back           50       46

Nice that Cornell forced a lot of turnovers, and it's more disheartening to the opponent than losing N+ GBs. Add in unforced turnovers the team made, and times the opponent failed to clear, and finally Cornell gets closer on stats. Does that make us feel better? No, because if you're trying to catch up, or protect a lead, you want to win the faceoff.
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2019
Posted by: billhoward (---.nwrk.east.verizon.net)
Date: March 10, 2019 05:34PM

upprdeck
so why did rasimowicz only take draws in the 2nd half?
Trouble adjusting to Daylight Savings Time. Maybe he's not a mornings kind of person.
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2019
Posted by: billhoward (---.nwrk.east.verizon.net)
Date: March 10, 2019 06:07PM

upprdeck
but the last last penalty cornell had the ball in offensive end and then something was called..

too many penalties, not sure which is worse to have that or no wins on the X
Box score says that in addition to scoring 8-0-8 (on 10 shots), Clarke Petterson was also 3-03:00 on penalties. Trying to remember: Does college lacrosse still eject a player for five personal fouls?
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2019
Posted by: woodpile (---.dyn.optonline.net)
Date: March 10, 2019 06:08PM

Towson is not in the same category with Yale and Penn State. And Towson killed itself by locking off Teat (I'm sure they saw it as the less painful option). Wonder what Shay's strategy will be. Teat was not faceguarded in the ILT championship game and he wreaked havoc on the Bulldogs.
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2019
Posted by: scoop85 (---.hvc.res.rr.com)
Date: March 10, 2019 06:42PM

woodpile
Towson is not in the same category with Yale and Penn State. And Towson killed itself by locking off Teat (I'm sure they saw it as the less painful option). Wonder what Shay's strategy will be. Teat was not faceguarded in the ILT championship game and he wreaked havoc on the Bulldogs.

While the lock-of will reduce Teat’s numbers, it won’t be as effective this year because we have more weapons on offense, especially with Piatelli’s emergence as a dodger and feeder. Even being locked-off Teat “only” got 4 points.

Clearly the best offense we’ve had since the 2013 FF team.
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2019
Posted by: TimV (---.hsd1.ma.comcast.net)
Date: March 10, 2019 07:54PM

billhoward
upprdeck
but the last last penalty cornell had the ball in offensive end and then something was called..

too many penalties, not sure which is worse to have that or no wins on the X
Box score says that in addition to scoring 8-0-8 (on 10 shots), Clarke Petterson was also 3-03:00 on penalties. Trying to remember: Does college lacrosse still eject a player for five personal fouls?

From the 2019 NCAA Rule Book

Fouling Out

SECTION 12. Any player who accumulates five minutes of personal fouls shall be
disqualified from the game. A substitute for that player may enter the game when
the disqualified player would have been permitted to re-enter had he not fouled out.
An individual who accumulates five minutes of personal fouls and/or is disqualified
is neither expelled from the competition or spectator areas, nor suspended for a
subsequent game(s).

 
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Re: Cornell lacrosse 2019 - polls 3/11/19
Posted by: billhoward (---.nwrk.east.verizon.net)
Date: March 10, 2019 09:40PM

USILA POLLS March 4 2019
Rank    School          Psts/1st WL     Last week
1	Towson	        373(14) 4-0	7      Def Jacksonville 15-13, L Cornell 18-11
2	Loyola Maryland	333	4-1	1      L Duke 12-7 
3	Cornell  	324 (4)	3-0	3      L Penn State 19-13, def Towson 18-11
4	Yale    	315	2-1	4      Def Michigan 17-11 
5	Duke	        297 (1)	5-1	6      Def Loyola Md 12-7
6	Penn State	296	4-1	5
7	Maryland	264	5-1	2
8	Denver	        233	4-1	8
9	Ohio State	226	5-0	9
10	Notre Dame	216	2-1	12
(Records through March 3)

So what happens to the polls tomorrow? Towson made a huge jump from 7th to 1st then seems headed back down. Loyola now has 2 losses. Yale's win vs. Michigan was the first that wasn't a one-point win or loss in overtime (one of each) or regulation (vs. Penn State). First and second places will likely be vacated. Be hard for
Cornell to be #1 after a big loss to #6 Penn State. Be hard for Yale to be #1 based on only one game decided by more than one goal. Maybe give it to Duke: wins by margins of 4 to 10 goals plus one 1-goal win Denver and a 13-9 loss to #13 High Point. Rank it 1 Duke, 2 Yale, 3 Cornell, 4 Penn State? Outgoing #1 Towson got clobbered and #2 Loyola now has 2 losses. Maybe Maryland after a 14-9 win at Albany will reclaim one of the top three spots.
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2019 - polls 3/11/19
Posted by: semsox (---.bstnma.fios.verizon.net)
Date: March 10, 2019 09:47PM

My guess for the top 5 is: Duke, Yale, Penn St., Maryland, Cornell
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2019 - polls 3/11/19
Posted by: ugarte (---.dyn.optonline.net)
Date: March 10, 2019 11:39PM

start the poll at 2

 
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Re: Cornell lacrosse 2019 - polls 3/11/19
Posted by: billhoward (---.nwrk.east.verizon.net)
Date: March 11, 2019 09:58AM

Lacrosse media poll 3/11. Cornell was #2, now #3, and our loss to Penn State helps them to the #1 ranking. Our win Sunday drops Towson from 1 to 5. USILA results pending; Cornell was #3 last week.
Rank     Team (record)          Votes (1sts)   Last week
1	 Penn State (6 - 1)	517 (14)	4 
2	 Duke (6 - 1)	        496 (5)	        6 
3	 Cornell (4 - 1)	471 (3)	        2 
4	 Yale (3 - 1)	        446 (4)	        4
5	 Towson (5 - 1)	        418	        1 
6	 Maryland (6 - 1)	408 (1)	        7 
7	 Notre Dame (3 - 1)	380	       10 
8	 Loyola (4 - 2)	        359	        3 
9	 Ohio State (6 - 0)	358	        9
10	 High Point (6 - 1)	290	       12

USILA checks in. Cornell is 4 not 3. Yale sneaks ahead of Cornell.
Rank    Team            Points  W-L     Last week
1	Penn State (12)	385	6-1	6
2	Duke (3)	365	6-1	5
3	Yale (4)	357	3-1	4
4	Cornell (1)	334	4-1	3
5	Towson	        316	5-1	1
6	Maryland	301	6-1	7
7	Notre Dame	274	3-1	10
8	Ohio State	260	6-0	9
9	Loyola Maryland	255	4-2	2
10	Denver	        198	4-2	8
11	Virginia	197	4-2	12
12	High Point	187	6-1	13
13	Syracuse	180	3-2	15
14	Georgetown	121	6-1	18
15	North Carolina	86	4-2	19
16	Rutgers	        64	4-2	N/R
17	Johns Hopkins	55	2-3	17
18	Army West Point	54	4-2	16
19	Villanova	37	3-3	11
20	Lehigh	        33	3-3	N/R
Others receiving votes: UMass 32, Richmond 30, Navy 22, Colgate 14, Hobart 12, Penn 11, Princeton 8, Delaware 2, Drexel 1

Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 03/11/2019 10:07AM by billhoward.
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2019 - polls 3/11/19
Posted by: upprdeck (---.fs.cornell.edu)
Date: March 11, 2019 10:12AM

3 top 5 teams in a row on the schedule, good chance ND is there by the time we see them too, if Syracuse goes on a run after Duke they might get back there too.
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2019 - polls 3/11/19
Posted by: billhoward (---.nwrk.east.verizon.net)
Date: March 11, 2019 12:40PM

No one complains this year about a weak Cornell SOS. We're playing / played: 1, 4, 5, 7, 13, 20 and three also-got-votes. I thought Albany had votes when we played them. We missed out dropping Colgate (for this year only?) for St. Bonaventure, a D1 newcomer. Army is back in the top 20 and I miss that series. But how do you know several years in advance if it's better to play Stony Brook or Albany, West Point or Hofstra or Colgate?

Also Lehigh vs. Bucknell? I prefer playing playing Lehigh because every time I see the "Battle of the 'Nells" headline, I have the urge to bitch-slip whoever was responsible.


Rank    Team            Points  W-L     Last week
1	Penn State (12)	385	6-1	6
2	Duke (3)	365	6-1	5
3	Yale (4)	357	3-1	4
4	Cornell (1)	334	4-1	3
5	Towson	        316	5-1	1
6	Maryland	301	6-1	7
7	Notre Dame	274	3-1	10
8	Ohio State	260	6-0	9
9	Loyola Maryland	255	4-2	2
10	Denver	        198	4-2	8
11	Virginia	197	4-2	12
12	High Point	187	6-1	13
13	Syracuse	180	3-2	15
14	Georgetown	121	6-1	18
15	North Carolina	86	4-2	19
16	Rutgers	        64	4-2	N/R
17	Johns Hopkins	55	2-3	17
18	Army West Point	54	4-2	16
19	Villanova	37	3-3	11
20	Lehigh	        33	3-3	N/R[/b
Others receiving votes: UMass 32, Richmond 30, Navy 22, Colgate 14, Hobart 12, Penn 11, Princeton 8, Delaware 2, Drexel 1
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2019 - polls 3/11/19
Posted by: Jeff Hopkins '82 (---.102.132.76.res-cmts.sm.ptd.net)
Date: March 11, 2019 06:45PM

I prefer Lehigh because I work with a few Lehigh alums - and the field is only about 10 miles from me.
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2019 - polls 3/11/19
Posted by: Swampy (---.cl.ri.cox.net)
Date: March 11, 2019 09:23PM

Jeff Hopkins '82
I prefer Lehigh because I work with a few Lehigh alums - and the field is only about 10 miles from me.

Isn't there some sort of emoluments clause prohibiting such shameless promotion of self-interest on this board?

You don't see other people promoting opponents, such as Bryant, Ohio State, or Rutgers, based solely on proximity to their places of residence.
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2019 - polls 3/11/19
Posted by: Jeff Hopkins '82 (---.102.132.76.res-cmts.sm.ptd.net)
Date: March 12, 2019 09:07PM

Swampy
Jeff Hopkins '82
I prefer Lehigh because I work with a few Lehigh alums - and the field is only about 10 miles from me.

Isn't there some sort of emoluments clause prohibiting such shameless promotion of self-interest on this board?

You don't see other people promoting opponents, such as Bryant, Ohio State, or Rutgers, based solely on proximity to their places of residence.

I make no money from having a game at Lehigh innocent

But I'd do Rutgers. That's drivable, too.

FWIW, I'm watching the Lehigh-Rutgers game right now. ;-)
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2019
Posted by: nshapiro (192.148.195.---)
Date: March 14, 2019 12:43PM

Can anyone explain why at [laxbytes.com] Princeton has the highest Ivy probability of winning an AQ, and Yale's is worse than everyone's but Dartmouth?

...................Total....Auto

1 Cornell........64.30 15.90

6 Yale...........51.62 13.00

12 Penn........39.21 13.50

34 Princeton..16.40 16.40

42 Harvard....15.20 15.20

49 Brown.......13.90 13.90

58 Dartmouth 12.10 12.10
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2019
Posted by: Swampy (---.cl.ri.cox.net)
Date: March 14, 2019 12:56PM

nshapiro
Can anyone explain why at [laxbytes.com] Princeton has the highest Ivy probability of winning an AQ, and Yale's is worse than everyone's but Dartmouth?

...................Total....Auto

1 Cornell........64.30 15.90

6 Yale...........51.62 13.00

12 Penn........39.21 13.50

34 Princeton..16.40 16.40

42 Harvard....15.20 15.20

49 Brown.......13.90 13.90

58 Dartmouth 12.10 12.10

And BTW, how does Fanlax come up with the points it uses to rank teams? And what on earth do its ratings mean?
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2019
Posted by: djk26 (---.nycmny.fios.verizon.net)
Date: March 18, 2019 12:33PM

I received an email stating that chapter 2 of "The Season" is now available. I just looked at the Florida women's results--they are only 3-5? Yikes--should make for an interesting chapter 2. (grumbling for the Cornell men's team too if chapter 2 covers the Penn State and Yale game)
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2019
Posted by: Beeeej (Moderator)
Date: March 18, 2019 12:44PM

djk26
I received an email stating that chapter 2 of "The Season" is now available. I just looked at the Florida women's results--they are only 3-5? Yikes--should make for an interesting chapter 2. (grumbling for the Cornell men's team too if chapter 2 covers the Penn State and Yale game)

Available where? I searched ESPNU's listings for the next week or so and didn't see it on the schedule, and I assumed it wouldn't be on ESPN+.

 
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Re: Cornell lacrosse 2019
Posted by: nshapiro (192.148.195.---)
Date: March 18, 2019 12:48PM

It has already aired, probably twice.
Watching it I had no idea Fla was doing that badly. It does show some close losses to really good teams, but never mentions their record.

The Charleston tournament is included. I won't discuss any spoilers, in case you don't know the results**]
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Re: Cornell lacrosse 2019
Posted by: ugarte (---.177.169.163.ipyx-102276-zyo.zip.zayo.com)
Date: March 18, 2019 12:50PM

check the cornell sports twitter - they tweeted out a link

 
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Re: Cornell lacrosse 2019
Posted by: CU77 (---.sb.sd.cox.net)
Date: March 18, 2019 12:51PM

Now available online, and well worth watching:

[theseason2019.com]
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2019
Posted by: upprdeck (---.fs.cornell.edu)
Date: March 18, 2019 02:24PM

i watched the first on on ESPN,, the 2nd one never showed on the schedule just 100 replays of the lax preseason show.
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2019
Posted by: nshapiro (192.148.195.---)
Date: March 18, 2019 03:55PM

It is not uniquely labelled in my listings. I had to set my DVR to record all replays so that I would catch it. the description did not change from the first episode.
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2019
Posted by: toddlose (---.sub-174-225-6.myvzw.com)
Date: March 18, 2019 03:56PM

nshapiro
It is not uniquely labelled in my listings. I had to set my DVR to record all replays so that I would catch it. the description did not change from the first episode.

Exactly the same here as well.
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2019
Posted by: nshapiro (192.148.195.---)
Date: March 18, 2019 04:15PM

[www.insidelacrosse.com]

With losses to his #2 and #3 teams, and wins over everybody else, including his #6 team, Quint ranks Cornell 13!!!

Anybody know why he hates Cornell?
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2019
Posted by: mike1960 (---.wi.res.rr.com)
Date: March 18, 2019 04:20PM

nshapiro
[www.insidelacrosse.com]

With losses to his #2 and #3 teams, and wins over everybody else, including his #6 team, Quint ranks Cornell 13!!!

Anybody know why he hates Cornell?

He's been that way as long as I can remember.
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2019
Posted by: upprdeck (---.syrcny.east.verizon.net)
Date: March 18, 2019 06:52PM

Maybe he just figures if they cant win faceoffs how many games can they win
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2019
Posted by: djk26 (---.nycmny.fios.verizon.net)
Date: March 19, 2019 09:55AM

I find it hard to argue that Cornell is a top ten team, right now. They can be, but they must improve in certain areas. It's hard to argue with the negatives that Quint points out (emphasis added):

Quint Kessenich, insidelacrosse.com
The Big Red had no answers for FOGO TD Ierlan and attackmen Matt Brandau and Matt Gaudet in a Saturday conference setback. Early shooting woes and a net loss in possessions were too much to overcome. Cornell is still very much a work in progress..Jeff Teat needs more touches. The first midfield shot 1-11. Big Red needs dodging threats who draw doubles. The team defense must tighten up, they are getting shredded. Cornell entered the game with the No. 39-rated defense on a possession and SOS-based model. The Big Red play St. Bonaventure and Penn this week.

Penn is much better than expected and will be a tough game this Saturday. I don't want to overlook St. Bonaventure, but if Cornell loses to team that has zero Division I wins in their history, then...

Here are the positives for Cornell, as per QK:

Quint Kessenich, insidelacrosse.com
The positives: they can ride, pass the rock well, they form a wicked man-up (4-for-6) and give great effort. John Piatelli (4G, 1A) and Clarke Petterson (4, 2) stood out.
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2019
Posted by: Al DeFlorio (65.124.240.---)
Date: March 19, 2019 11:44AM

djk26
I find it hard to argue that Cornell is a top ten team, right now. They can be, but they must improve in certain areas. It's hard to argue with the negatives that Quint points out (emphasis added):

Quint Kessenich, insidelacrosse.com
The Big Red had no answers for FOGO TD Ierlan and attackmen Matt Brandau and Matt Gaudet in a Saturday conference setback. Early shooting woes and a net loss in possessions were too much to overcome. Cornell is still very much a work in progress..Jeff Teat needs more touches. The first midfield shot 1-11. Big Red needs dodging threats who draw doubles. The team defense must tighten up, they are getting shredded. Cornell entered the game with the No. 39-rated defense on a possession and SOS-based model. The Big Red play St. Bonaventure and Penn this week.

Penn is much better than expected and will be a tough game this Saturday. I don't want to overlook St. Bonaventure, but if Cornell loses to team that has zero Division I wins in their history, then...

Here are the positives for Cornell, as per QK:

Quint Kessenich, insidelacrosse.com
The positives: they can ride, pass the rock well, they form a wicked man-up (4-for-6) and give great effort. John Piatelli (4G, 1A) and Clarke Petterson (4, 2) stood out.
Not sure how any rational observer could rank Cornell well below a Towson team that it crushed.

 
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Re: Cornell lacrosse 2019
Posted by: CU2007 (---.sub-174-202-22.myvzw.com)
Date: March 19, 2019 12:40PM

upprdeck
Maybe he just figures if they cant win faceoffs how many games can they win

And he’d be right. We are terrible in a very important aspect of the game.
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2019
Posted by: ugarte (---.177.169.163.ipyx-102276-zyo.zip.zayo.com)
Date: March 19, 2019 05:13PM

djk26
I don't want to overlook St. Bonaventure, but if Cornell loses to team that has zero Division I wins in their history, then...
5-0 in the first quarter, Cornell hasn't lost a faceoff yet. You can probably relax.

 
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Re: Cornell lacrosse 2019
Posted by: mike1960 (---.wi.res.rr.com)
Date: March 19, 2019 05:26PM

ugarte
djk26
I don't want to overlook St. Bonaventure, but if Cornell loses to team that has zero Division I wins in their history, then...
5-0 in the first quarter, Cornell hasn't lost a faceoff yet. You can probably relax.

Bonnies are just outmatched today.
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2019
Posted by: scoop85 (---.hvc.res.rr.com)
Date: March 19, 2019 07:55PM

mike1960
ugarte
djk26
I don't want to overlook St. Bonaventure, but if Cornell loses to team that has zero Division I wins in their history, then...
5-0 in the first quarter, Cornell hasn't lost a faceoff yet. You can probably relax.

Bonnies are just outmatched today.

Truth be told the Bonnies right now are a mid-level DIII team at best.
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2019
Posted by: mike1960 (---.wi.res.rr.com)
Date: March 19, 2019 10:10PM

scoop85
mike1960
ugarte
djk26
I don't want to overlook St. Bonaventure, but if Cornell loses to team that has zero Division I wins in their history, then...
5-0 in the first quarter, Cornell hasn't lost a faceoff yet. You can probably relax.

Bonnies are just outmatched today.

Truth be told the Bonnies right now are a mid-level DIII team at best.

It will be a different story when those freshman become seniors.
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2019
Posted by: djk26 (---.nycmny.fios.verizon.net)
Date: March 20, 2019 09:13AM

I realize that it was against terrible competition, but JJ Lombardi looked pretty good yesterday. Any chance he can get some more playing time? Depth is always a good thing, and I never understand why freshmen don't seem to make the field in lacrosse. It's not that way in hockey.
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2019
Posted by: TimV (---.amc.edu)
Date: March 20, 2019 09:27AM

I also can't complain about that list, the Towson ranking being somewhat anomalous- they're getting a lot of mileage out of their wins over Loyola and JHU. But Towson aside, and maybe High Point that ranking looks OK to me. Other than those two teams, who do you think we deserve to be ahead of?

I think the Yale loss looked worse than it was - as pointed out on that game thread the defense was uncoordinated and left Gaudet too open. There were a couple of bad luck garbage goals from in close that Ierlan had no chance against. The offense was mishandling a lot of balls- fumbled passes that, while recovered, lost our usual ball movement advantage.

We need Ws against Notre Dame and Syracuse, if we get those I think we can have two routes to the Tournament. I would not be surprised to see a determined Princeton team coming off a loss to Penn, beat Yale this weekend. I'm shocked they aren't in Quint's top 20, but that seems based on W-L record and not how well they've played in losses to strong teams.

 
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Re: Cornell lacrosse 2019
Posted by: TimV (---.amc.edu)
Date: March 20, 2019 10:56AM

djk26
I realize that it was against terrible competition, but JJ Lombardi looked pretty good yesterday. Any chance he can get some more playing time? Depth is always a good thing, and I never understand why freshmen don't seem to make the field in lacrosse. It's not that way in hockey.

JJ is good, and will be a star. Would like to see him more.

Some freshmen see the field but it's highly player specific, roster specific, and coach specific. Current Cornell players who have seen significant minutes as freshmen included Teat (of course) Donville, Piatelli, Ierlan, Adler, Buczek, Doria, Licciardi, Bardwell, Tria, Racimovicz, Fletcher, Telesco, Teixiera, Salvatore, Rupp, Petterson, McCulloch, Bray, Wallace, and Ward.

List derived from season individual statistics from lax website. I think because the rosters are so large and the flow of players in and out or spot shifts it's just not as recognizable.

 
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Re: Cornell lacrosse 2019 - polls 4/8/2019
Posted by: billhoward (---.nwrk.east.verizon.net)
Date: April 08, 2019 11:15AM

Cornell climbs to 8 from 10 in media poll, with Syracuse and Notre Dame to play this week. Penn State now has all of the first-place votes. Team on Cornell's schedule in bold.

Division I Media Poll
Rank	Team	                Points	Prev
1	 Penn State (9 - 1)	520(26)	1
2	 Loyola (8 - 2)	        471	2
3	 Maryland (9 - 2)	458	3
4	 Virginia (9 - 2)	436	4
5	 Yale (7 - 2)	        418	5
6	 Penn (6 - 3)	        390	6
7	 Duke (9 - 3)	        377	8 
8	 Cornell (7 - 3)	314	10 
9	 Syracuse (6 - 3)	304	11 
10	 Notre Dame (5 - 4)	270	 7 
11	 Towson (7 - 3)	        257	12 
12	 Ohio State (7 - 2)	251	 9 
13	 High Point (9 - 2)	225	14 
14	 Villanova (7 - 4)	161	22 
15	 Denver (6 - 4)	        132	13 
16	 Johns Hopkins (6 - 4)	128	21 
17	 Lehigh (7 - 4)	        104	15 
18	 North Carolina (7 - 4)	77	19 
19	 UMass (7 - 4)	        43	17 
20	 Army (8 - 3)	        30	16 
Receiving Votes: Delaware, Richmond, Rutgers, Boston University, Georgetown, Marquette, Princeton, Mount St Mary's.

Coaches' poll TK.
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2019 - polls 4/8/2019
Posted by: djk26 (---.nycmny.fios.verizon.net)
Date: April 08, 2019 12:15PM

Thanks for posting that, Bill, and bolding Cornell's opponents. You have to give the coaches (Coach Pete in particular) a lot of credit for putting together such a strong schedule for Cornell this year. If we had beaten Penn I'd feel much better about the season--as it is we are are probably one loss away from losing any chance at an at-large bid. As I type that it seems a little too bleak so I hope am wrong about that.
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2019 - polls 4/8/2019
Posted by: upprdeck (---.fs.cornell.edu)
Date: April 08, 2019 01:36PM

who knows where at large will go.. there will by about 8? almost everyone below us has 3-4 losses too and many will end up with 5-6. we split with ND and only lose to penn/yale in ivy we have a pretty solid resume.

those teams in the ACC will almost all get 1 more loss too and they are all the teams in the at large pool..

too Yale lost to Vill

if we come out of this week at 8-4 at worst and then beat prince/brown i think 10-5 or 11-5 gets us in. 2 top 10 wins and 5 top 10 losses . if we lose both this week probably need to beat penn or yale.
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2019 - polls 4/8/2019
Posted by: Swampy (---.cl.ri.cox.net)
Date: April 09, 2019 12:13PM

Latest episode of The Season is very informative about the coach and team this year, but depressing too.
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2019
Posted by: Trotsky (---.dc.dc.cox.net)
Date: April 11, 2019 10:43AM

I'd never seen this before. Yikes. [url= ][/url]
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 04/11/2019 10:43AM by Trotsky.
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2019
Posted by: ugarte (---.177.169.163.IPYX-102276-ZYO.zip.zayo.com)
Date: April 11, 2019 11:02AM

Trotsky
I'd never seen this before.

let's try that again

 
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Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 04/11/2019 02:45PM by ugarte.
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2019
Posted by: Trotsky (---.dc.dc.cox.net)
Date: April 11, 2019 01:17PM

I knew about that one. Or, for that matter.
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2019
Posted by: Jeff Hopkins '82 (---.102.132.76.res-cmts.sm.ptd.net)
Date: April 11, 2019 06:37PM

Trotsky
I knew about that one. Or, for that matter.

37 spectators. Where did they play the game? Meehan?
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2019
Posted by: Al DeFlorio (---.hsd1.ma.comcast.net)
Date: April 14, 2019 05:17PM

Interesting chart showing tournament probabilities:

[laxbytes.com]

Cornell #3 in SOS; #1 in average RPI of losses; two significant wins (ND and Towson); no significant losses.

 
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Re: Cornell lacrosse 2019
Posted by: mike1960 (---.wi.res.rr.com)
Date: April 14, 2019 10:17PM

Al DeFlorio
Interesting chart showing tournament probabilities:

[laxbytes.com]

Cornell #3 in SOS; #1 in average RPI of losses; two significant wins (ND and Towson); no significant losses.

Sometimes logic does not seem to matter in these kinds of things. Let's hope it does this time.
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2019
Posted by: upprdeck (---.syrcny.east.verizon.net)
Date: April 14, 2019 10:44PM

ND is in an interesting spot and they are one team in the mix with us..

6-5 with UNC left, they lose that and the first ACC game they cant get in at 6-7.

i they go 1-1 will they take a 7-6 ND team over us if we go 2-1 and finish 10-5 and beat ND?
UNC if they lose to ND goes to 7-6

JH probably goes to 6-7 with the b10 tourney left

how would Towson get in ahead of us losing 18-11 to us and only the loyola win as a good one
Denver will have only 1 good win if they dont win out and one one of Vill/Denver has to lose too

Mt st marys wont get in ahead of us without winning that league

we are in pretty good shape if the B10 top 3 win the title and UNC/ND dont win the acc and finish with 3 quality wins
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2019
Posted by: Swampy (---.cl.ri.cox.net)
Date: April 15, 2019 01:21PM

From this week's Inside Lacrosse's "Quint's Top 20"

Quint Kessenich

10. Cornell An unimpressive loss in the Dome highlights Cornell's issues. When you can't win a face-off and your defense resembles Swiss cheese, you're not going to beat quality opponents. The Big Red got pushed around during 50/50 groundballs. The close defense got run by; they don't have a No. 1 cover man. Sloppy passes are costly when your possession margin is slim. Time of possession was scarce. Shot selection was poor. Jeff Teat (2A) and Clarke Petterson (2A) were blanked.

A Sunday bounce-back win against Notre Dame was essential to stay in the hunt for an at-large bid and will be a launching pad for the stretch run. Big Red defended, they scrapped for face-offs and groundballs. They maximized possessions. Chayse Ierlan made 17 stops. Cornell is in desperation mode. Sometimes teams need to go there to maximize their focus.

I don't usually put much stake in QK's opinions of Cornell Lacrosse, but this one seems right on the money.
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2019 - polls 4/15/19
Posted by: billhoward (---.nwrk.east.verizon.net)
Date: April 15, 2019 03:34PM

USILA polls: [www.ncaa.com]
1. Penn State
2. Maryland was 3
3. Duke was 6
4. Yale was 5
5. Penn was 7 
...
 9. Syracuse was 11 beats Cornell +2 spots
10. Cornell was 10 loses to Syracuse, beats Notre Dame
11. Notre Dame was 12 loses to Cornell +1 spot

Inside Lacrosse poll [www.ncaa.com] has Cornell dropping from 8 to 10 but Notre Dame drops 2 to 12 and Syracuse climes 2 to 7.
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2019
Posted by: Al DeFlorio (---.hsd1.ma.comcast.net)
Date: April 15, 2019 08:54PM

Cornell-Brown game televised on NESN Saturday.

 
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Re: Cornell lacrosse 2019 - faceoff futility
Posted by: billhoward (---.nwrk.east.verizon.net)
Date: April 16, 2019 12:54AM

Of this week's top ten in the USILA polls, their rankings on team faceoff percentage (not in poll order) include:

1
11
12
13
15
17
28
30
35
67


Where's Cornell? 10th in the polls and 67th (of 73 teams) in faceoffs. How bad are Cornell's faceoff stats? Every team in the top 10 has a winning faceoff percentage except Loyola at .496 (rounds to 50%) and Cornell at .365. The difference from first to ninth is .275 and the difference between ninth and tenth is another .131. I would like to see the imputed goal value of each faceoff won.


USILA Top 10 Teams      Records    F/O  (rank)
 1. Penn State          10-1       .594 (15)   .694 25x36 vs. Cornell (PSU F/O pct.)       
 2. Maryland            10-2       .598 (13)
 3. Duke                10-3       .530 (30) 
 4. Yale                 8-2       .771 ( 1)   .800  24X30 vs. Cornell
 5. Penn                 7-3       .600 (12)   .606  24x33 vs. Cornell  
 6. Virginia             9-3       .552 (28)       
 7. Ohio State           8-2       .585 (17)
 8. Loyola Md.           9-3       .496 (35)
 9. Syracuse             8-3       .607 (11)   .680  17x25 vs. Cornell
10. Cornell              8-4       .365 (67)  

Teams F/O Pecentage .600 or Higher
Teams .600 or Higher               F/O  (rank) 
13. Towson                         .771 ( 2)  .813  26x32 vs. Cornell
HM  Lehigh                         .682 ( 4)  .667  18x27 vs. Cornell
NR  Holy Cross                     .641 ( 5)
NR  Cleveland State                .624 ( 6)
NR  Hobart                         .622 ( 7)  .639  22x39 vs. Cornell
15  UMass                          .617 ( 8)
NR  St Joseph's                    .612 ( 9)
NR  Hampton                        .611 (10)

The teams below Cornell on faceoffs have records of
3-8
9-3 (Army, 17th in the 4/15 poll.)
2-9
4-9
4-9
0-12 St. Bonaventure .240 (.200 vs. Cornell)

And yet we're in the top ten.
Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 04/16/2019 01:00AM by billhoward.
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2019 - faceoff futility
Posted by: Trotsky (---.dc.dc.cox.net)
Date: April 16, 2019 10:28AM

Interesting though that the top 10 in FO don't dominate the poll. Apparently it's neither necessary (Duke, Loyola, Cornell) nor sufficient (Lehigh, Holy Cross, Hobart).
Edited 4 time(s). Last edit at 04/16/2019 10:30AM by Trotsky.
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2019 - faceoff futility
Posted by: mike1960 (---.wi.res.rr.com)
Date: April 16, 2019 10:54AM

Trotsky
Interesting though that the top 10 in FO don't dominate the poll. Apparently it's neither necessary (Duke, Loyola, Cornell) nor sufficient (Lehigh, Holy Cross, Hobart).

To win games against quality opponents, I think there is a necessity to get around 50 percent.
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2019 - faceoff futility
Posted by: ugarte (---.177.169.163.ipyx-102276-zyo.zip.zayo.com)
Date: April 16, 2019 12:45PM

Trotsky
Interesting though that the top 10 in FO don't dominate the poll. Apparently it's neither necessary (Duke, Loyola, Cornell) nor sufficient (Lehigh, Holy Cross, Hobart).
If Ierlan transferred to Cornell instead of Yale I think we're a runaway #1. Wins over Towson and Notre Dame and a one-goal loss to Penn with a huge possession disadvantage say a lot about what the offense is like. The defense is taking a lot of understandable crap, but they are constantly on their heels due to the problems at the X.

 
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Re: Cornell lacrosse 2019 - faceoff futility
Posted by: Trotsky (---.dc.dc.cox.net)
Date: April 16, 2019 01:35PM

ugarte
Trotsky
Interesting though that the top 10 in FO don't dominate the poll. Apparently it's neither necessary (Duke, Loyola, Cornell) nor sufficient (Lehigh, Holy Cross, Hobart).
If Ierlan transferred to Cornell instead of Yale I think we're a runaway #1. Wins over Towson and Notre Dame and a one-goal loss to Penn with a huge possession disadvantage say a lot about what the offense is like. The defense is taking a lot of understandable crap, but they are constantly on their heels due to the problems at the X.
It sounds like it's important like goaltending in hockey. You don't need an All-American to challenge for the title but (1) it helps a lot and (2) you can't have an utter deficient in there either.
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2019 - faceoff futility
Posted by: upprdeck (---.fs.cornell.edu)
Date: April 16, 2019 02:34PM

5-10 more possessions mean a lot for a team that shoots as well as Cornell does.. added to that a few less possessions by the Opp probably means a few less penalties and that helps the D as well..
 
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