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Cornell lacrosse 2019

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Re: Cornell lacrosse 2019
Posted by: Al DeFlorio (---.hsd1.ma.comcast.net)
Date: February 27, 2019 06:33AM

Defense player impact ratings at laxbytes: [laxbytes.com]

Attack player impact ratings: [laxbytes.com]

 
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Re: Cornell lacrosse 2019
Posted by: billhoward (---.sub-174-225-13.myvzw.com)
Date: February 27, 2019 10:51AM

scoop85
ugarte
Definitely weird to move up after a pair of surprisingly close games against unranked teams but I will not complain.
Lots of good teams out there. I doubt we're the 3rd best team right now, but we have potential to be very good. Worried about the FOGO situation though.
About now, is TD Ierlan realizing the odds of winning a national title might be better at Cornell?

Remember how the alte kakers on the forum will remind you Ned coached lacrosse as well as hockey? I was wondering: If Schafer coached lacrosse, how many goals would Bullen have to give up before Chase Ierlan skates on in relief?

For much of the game, our faceoff strategy was for the defense to get the ball back later.

For the final 3-1/2 periods, Bullen's numbers were 14 saves, 4 GA, .737 save percentage.
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2019
Posted by: billhoward (---.sub-174-225-13.myvzw.com)
Date: February 27, 2019 10:59AM

Al DeFlorio
Defense player impact ratings at laxbytes: [laxbytes.com]
Attack player impact ratings: [laxbytes.com]
Maybe the reason the first two defenses didn't try to wall off Teat is the rest of the attack will kill them. Of 472 ranked players, we stand

5 Teat, Jr
6 Piatelli, So
14 Petterson, Sr

Imagine those two in 2020 as well as this year.

Of the top 50, our defensemen are 1-34-46 - Salvatore, Doria, Wallace.

Thanks, Al, for not posting FOGO ratings.
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2019
Posted by: Al DeFlorio (---.hsd1.ma.comcast.net)
Date: February 27, 2019 08:10PM

Towson 12, #1 Loyola 10. New #1 next week?

 
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Re: Cornell lacrosse 2019
Posted by: semsox (---.bstnma.fios.verizon.net)
Date: February 27, 2019 08:18PM

Loving that for our SOS. Sure would be nice for an Ivy to have a difficult schedule and not finish the year 7-6 (looking at you Penn and Harvard)
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2019
Posted by: Al DeFlorio (---.hsd1.ma.comcast.net)
Date: February 27, 2019 09:26PM

semsox
Loving that for our SOS. Sure would be nice for an Ivy to have a difficult schedule and not finish the year 7-6 (looking at you Penn and Harvard)
Quite a weekend coming up in Charlotte.

 
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Re: Cornell lacrosse 2019
Posted by: Swampy (---.cl.ri.cox.net)
Date: February 28, 2019 12:25AM

Al DeFlorio
semsox
Loving that for our SOS. Sure would be nice for an Ivy to have a difficult schedule and not finish the year 7-6 (looking at you Penn and Harvard)
Quite a weekend coming up in Charlotte.

Really. Defense seems to be coming along. Only the Albany game to shore up FOGO before a tournament that has us playing two teams that can make the FF.
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2019
Posted by: Al DeFlorio (---.hsd1.ma.comcast.net)
Date: February 28, 2019 05:52AM

Swampy
Al DeFlorio
semsox
Loving that for our SOS. Sure would be nice for an Ivy to have a difficult schedule and not finish the year 7-6 (looking at you Penn and Harvard)
Quite a weekend coming up in Charlotte.

Really. Defense seems to be coming along. Only the Albany game to shore up FOGO before a tournament that has us playing two teams that can make the FF.
Followed six days later by a third.

 
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Re: Cornell lacrosse 2019
Posted by: Al DeFlorio (---.hsd1.ma.comcast.net)
Date: March 02, 2019 12:13PM

Hopkins trying a "shut off" on Princeton's Sowers today. 3-1 Princeton.early.

 
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Re: Cornell lacrosse 2019 - Tewaaraton
Posted by: billhoward (---.nwrk.east.verizon.net)
Date: March 02, 2019 02:45PM

Shocker: Jeff Teat on the Tewaaraton Award Watch List - 50 players [tewaaraton.com]

Men’s Watch List:
Dox Aitken, Virginia - Jr., Midfield
Grant Ament, Penn State - Jr., Attack
Gerard Arceri, Penn State - Jr., Face Off
Jared Bernhardt, Maryland - Jr., Attack
Charlie Bertrand, Merrimack - Jr., Attack
Tate Boyce, Providence - Sr., Goalie
Daniel Bucaro, Georgetown - Sr., Attack
Adam Charalambides, Rutgers - Redshirt Sophomore, Attack
Craig Chick, Lehigh - Sr., Defense
Bryan Costabile, Notre Dame - Jr., Midfield
Brendan Curry, Syracuse - Soph., Midfield
Chris Fake, Yale - Soph., Defense
Dylan Gaines, Denver - Sr., Defense
JT Giles-Harris, Duke - Jr., Defense
Brendan Gleason, Notre Dame - Sr., Attack
Zach Goodrich, Towson - Sr., Midfield
Phil Goss, Brown - Jr., Goalie
Chris Gray, Boston University - Soph., Attack
Teddy Hatfield, Richmond - Sr., Attack
Alex Heger, Robert Morris - Sr., Goalie
TD Ierlan, Yale - Jr., Face Off
Connor Kirst, Villanova - Soph., Midfield
Michael Kraus, Virginia - Jr., Attack
Tre Leclaire, Ohio State - Jr., Attack
Kyle Marr, Hopkins - Sr., Attack
Simon Mathias, Penn - Sr., Attack
Nick Mellen, Syracuse - Jr., Defense
Jackson Morrill, Yale - Jr., Attack
Kieran Mullins, Rutgers - Jr., Attack
Tehoka Nanticoke, Albany - Soph., Attack
Asher Nolting, High Point - Soph., Attack
Brent Noseworthy, Michigan - Sr., Midfield
Isaac Paparo, Massachusetts-Amherst - Sr., Defense
Ryland Rees, Stony Brook - Sr., Defense
Jack Rowlett, Carolina - Sr., Defense
Brad Smith, Duke - Sr., Midfield
Michael Sowers, Princeton - Jr., Attack
Patrick Spencer, Loyola - Sr., Attack
Jacob Stover, Loyola - Sr., Goalie
Johnny Surdick, Army West Point - Sr., Defense
Jeff Teat, Cornell - Jr., Attack
Ryan Terefenko, Ohio State - Jr., Midfield
Ryan Tierney, Hofstra - Jr., Attack
Jack Tigh, Yale - Sr., Midfield
Greyson Torain, Navy - Sr., Midfield
Tim Troutner Jr., High Point - Sr., Goalie
Max Tuttle, Sacred Heart - Sr., Midfield
Cade Van Raaphorst, Duke - Sr., Defense
Ethan Walker, Denver - Jr., Attack
Alex Woodall, Towson - Sr., Face Off
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2019
Posted by: Beeeej (Moderator)
Date: March 02, 2019 03:03PM

Anybody able to get the 3pm Albany @ Cornell game on ESPN+? It's still saying "has not yet started" for me.

 
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Re: Cornell lacrosse 2019
Posted by: Al DeFlorio (---.hsd1.ma.comcast.net)
Date: March 02, 2019 03:04PM

Beeeej
Anybody able to get the 3pm Albany @ Cornell game on ESPN+? It's still saying "has not yet started" for me.
Same here.

 
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Re: Cornell lacrosse 2019
Posted by: Beeeej (Moderator)
Date: March 02, 2019 03:09PM

Now live.

 
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Re: Cornell lacrosse 2019
Posted by: mike1960 (---.wi.res.rr.com)
Date: March 02, 2019 03:10PM

Al DeFlorio
Beeeej
Anybody able to get the 3pm Albany @ Cornell game on ESPN+? It's still saying "has not yet started" for me.
Same here.

Finally.
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2019
Posted by: Al DeFlorio (---.hsd1.ma.comcast.net)
Date: March 02, 2019 03:12PM

mike1960
Al DeFlorio
Beeeej
Anybody able to get the 3pm Albany @ Cornell game on ESPN+? It's still saying "has not yet started" for me.
Same here.

Finally.
Looks like late start. Women's game late?

 
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Re: Cornell lacrosse 2019
Posted by: Al DeFlorio (---.hsd1.ma.comcast.net)
Date: March 02, 2019 03:13PM

Penn tested Penn State today 15-14.

 
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Re: Cornell lacrosse 2019
Posted by: mike1960 (---.wi.res.rr.com)
Date: March 02, 2019 03:16PM

Al DeFlorio
mike1960
Al DeFlorio
Beeeej
Anybody able to get the 3pm Albany @ Cornell game on ESPN+? It's still saying "has not yet started" for me.
Same here.

Finally.
Looks like late start. Women's game late?

Don't know. I really like it that ESPN+ uses Barry Leonard for the call.
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2019
Posted by: mike1960 (---.wi.res.rr.com)
Date: March 02, 2019 03:51PM

Albany loves to swing the ball around the top to get the open outside shot. Cornell is going to have to hustle to on every pass to pressure the shooters. It's easy to get worn down after a while playing that kind of defense.

I like Teat playing crease attack. The crease attack is always "locked off" a little bit anyway. He freed himself running behind the goal and getting an off-ball pick.
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2019
Posted by: Al DeFlorio (---.hsd1.ma.comcast.net)
Date: March 02, 2019 04:07PM

Giving shooters too much space.

 
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Re: Cornell lacrosse 2019
Posted by: mike1960 (---.wi.res.rr.com)
Date: March 02, 2019 04:18PM

Al DeFlorio
Giving shooters too much space.

I would consider putting the freshman in the net the second half.
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2019 - Tewaaraton
Posted by: scoop85 (---.hvc.res.rr.com)
Date: March 02, 2019 04:19PM

8-7 Cornell at the half. Offense has been good with a number of beautifully assisted goals. D not great, but all of Albany’s goals have been from the outside and Buhlen has to stop a few more.

As usual of late we’re getting beat on the faceoffs, and the rare time we seemingly win the draw we’re not able to pick the ball off the turf.

And we’ve been called for 5 penalties to Albany’s 0. But not saying it isn’t warranted.
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2019
Posted by: scoop85 (---.hvc.res.rr.com)
Date: March 02, 2019 04:21PM

mike1960
Al DeFlorio
Giving shooters too much space.

I would consider putting the freshman in the net the second half.

Agreed. But whenever I see him I think, “why didn’t his brother join him at Cornell.” I know you have to go with who you have, but it’s hard not thinking about what could’ve been.

Me, when it seemed as if TD was coming to Cornell: “Faceoffs are such a unique feature of lacrosse—I love them!”

Me, when he went to Yale: “Faceoffs are a vestige of a different era and should be abolished!”
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2019
Posted by: mike1960 (---.wi.res.rr.com)
Date: March 02, 2019 04:34PM

Teat is so accurate with his shots and passes.
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2019
Posted by: Trotsky (---.washdc.fios.verizon.net)
Date: March 02, 2019 04:45PM

Are our home jerseys new? They look far whiter to me. It may be the snow.
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2019
Posted by: Beeeej (Moderator)
Date: March 02, 2019 05:05PM

...and now it's coming up as "This event has ended." WTF?!

 
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- Steve Worona
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2019
Posted by: Trotsky (---.washdc.fios.verizon.net)
Date: March 02, 2019 05:08PM

Beeeej
...and now it's coming up as "This event has ended." WTF?!
Switch to the hockey. Final minutes still down 1-0. Cornell leads in total shots (on goal, blocked, and missed) 106-16.
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2019
Posted by: mike1960 (---.wi.res.rr.com)
Date: March 02, 2019 05:21PM

Beeeej
...and now it's coming up as "This event has ended." WTF?!

It came back after a few minutes.
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2019
Posted by: Trotsky (---.washdc.fios.verizon.net)
Date: March 02, 2019 05:25PM

This Albany comeback is getting scary.
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2019
Posted by: Al DeFlorio (---.hsd1.ma.comcast.net)
Date: March 02, 2019 05:27PM

Bullen can't stop low.

 
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Re: Cornell lacrosse 2019
Posted by: semsox (---.bstnma.fios.verizon.net)
Date: March 02, 2019 05:28PM

I'm still upset about whatever the call was against Wallace after he stripped the Albany player near the start of this run.
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2019
Posted by: Trotsky (---.washdc.fios.verizon.net)
Date: March 02, 2019 05:32PM

God bless Connor Fletcher.
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2019
Posted by: Al DeFlorio (---.hsd1.ma.comcast.net)
Date: March 02, 2019 05:33PM

Will need better D and 'keeping next weekend,

 
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Re: Cornell lacrosse 2019
Posted by: mike1960 (---.wi.res.rr.com)
Date: March 02, 2019 05:35PM

This offense can score on anyone but our defense and FOGOs are not ready for Syracuse.
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2019
Posted by: Trotsky (---.washdc.fios.verizon.net)
Date: March 02, 2019 05:40PM

mike1960
This offense can score on anyone but our defense and FOGOs are not ready for Syracuse.
Our #1 FOGO is hurt, right? We looked completely overmatched at FO late.
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2019
Posted by: Al DeFlorio (---.hsd1.ma.comcast.net)
Date: March 02, 2019 06:01PM

mike1960
This offense can score on anyone but our defense and FOGOs are not ready for Syracuse.
Syracuse? First there's PSU, Towson and Yale.

 
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Re: Cornell lacrosse 2019
Posted by: TimV (---.nycap.res.rr.com)
Date: March 02, 2019 06:03PM

Trotsky
mike1960
This offense can score on anyone but our defense and FOGOs are not ready for Syracuse.
Our #1 FOGO is hurt, right? We looked completely overmatched at FO late.

Our #1, Racimovicz, is not a great improvement over what is on the field now. I think Graham is coming along, but needs better wing play. I think the second outright faceoff win and attempt at another goal was not a good play. He needed to pull it out and run some clock with our full offense. It seemed after his shot was saved Albany caught fire. I'd continue with Graham and go with frosh Goaltender Ierland. Bullen, after his World Games stretch, has been a disappointment to me, and should have been better on those outside shots. Also, we got a terrible whistle today. And a terrible no whistle.

At this point, I'm hoping we can get one win in the next 3 games. I'd be ecstatic with two.

 
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Re: Cornell lacrosse 2019
Posted by: mike1960 (---.wi.res.rr.com)
Date: March 02, 2019 06:57PM

Al DeFlorio
mike1960
This offense can score on anyone but our defense and FOGOs are not ready for Syracuse.
Syracuse? First there's PSU, Towson and Yale.

There's no disgrace losing to PSU or Yale. I HATE losing to Syracuse.
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2019
Posted by: Al DeFlorio (---.hsd1.ma.comcast.net)
Date: March 02, 2019 07:01PM

mike1960
Al DeFlorio
mike1960
This offense can score on anyone but our defense and FOGOs are not ready for Syracuse.
Syracuse? First there's PSU, Towson and Yale.

There's no disgrace losing to PSU or Yale. I HATE losing to Syracuse.
I'm not especially fond of losing to anyone, disgrace or no disgrace. So I'll fret over Syracuse when the time comes.

 
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Re: Cornell lacrosse 2019
Posted by: CU2007 (---.sub-174-203-8.myvzw.com)
Date: March 02, 2019 07:13PM

semsox
I'm still upset about whatever the call was against Wallace after he stripped the Albany player near the start of this run.

Yep that was great defense. Awful call. It’s time for the freshman goalie.
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2019
Posted by: Jeff Hopkins '82 (---.102.132.76.res-cmts.sm.ptd.net)
Date: March 02, 2019 08:11PM

mike1960
Al DeFlorio
mike1960
This offense can score on anyone but our defense and FOGOs are not ready for Syracuse.
Syracuse? First there's PSU, Towson and Yale.

There's no disgrace losing to PSU or Yale. I HATE losing to Syracuse.

Well, Syracuse lost today in OT to UVA. It was a great game to watch.
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2019
Posted by: mike1960 (---.wi.res.rr.com)
Date: March 02, 2019 08:49PM

Jeff Hopkins '82
mike1960
Al DeFlorio
mike1960
This offense can score on anyone but our defense and FOGOs are not ready for Syracuse.
Syracuse? First there's PSU, Towson and Yale.

There's no disgrace losing to PSU or Yale. I HATE losing to Syracuse.

Well, Syracuse lost today in OT to UVA. It was a great game to watch.

I saw part of it. Both teams looked in great form.
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2019
Posted by: CU2007 (---.sub-174-203-50.myvzw.com)
Date: March 03, 2019 02:47AM

Cornell’s offense is national championship worthy. Unfortunately, the defense/goaltending doesn’t seem to be. At least not yet.

Also seems the shotclock rule has led to way more face offs - where we do not excel.
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2019
Posted by: George64 (---.hsd1.fl.comcast.net)
Date: March 03, 2019 10:21AM

Trotsky
God bless Connor Fletcher.

Great shot of the game winner.. Also Donville’s backhander.
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2019
Posted by: upprdeck (---.syrcny.east.verizon.net)
Date: March 03, 2019 10:26AM

really, considering the penalty and face off issues, Cornell was much the better team. Still blowing the 5 goal lead with the Albany goalie making multiple tough saves to keep the run alive would have been bad..

One thing is you cant blow 5-6 goal 4th quarter leads unless you have them. has any other team been up 4-5-6 goals in the 4th three times this year? now they have to learn how to protect them.
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2019
Posted by: rss77 (---.twcny.res.rr.com)
Date: March 03, 2019 05:36PM

Was impressed with Andrews at faceoff X. He is tough and fast. Albany was winning faceoffs with wing play. Cornell's wings just couldn't seem to come up with ground balls on a consistent basis.
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2019
Posted by: Swampy (---.cl.ri.cox.net)
Date: March 03, 2019 06:28PM

rss77
Was impressed with Andrews at faceoff X. He is tough and fast. Albany was winning faceoffs with wing play. Cornell's wings just couldn't seem to come up with ground balls on a consistent basis.

This is something I don't really understand. Being an elite FOGO takes special skill; I get it. But ground balls are something all field players have to master and practice. Of course, if we're talking top-level DI talent against a bunch of walk-ons, we'd expect the former group to dominate. But if two teams with top-tier talent meet each other, then I'd expect their ground-ball prowess to be roughly equal and the ground-ball battles to be won more or less equally, at least in the limited context of faceoffs.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 03/03/2019 06:30PM by Swampy.
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2019
Posted by: upprdeck (---.syrcny.east.verizon.net)
Date: March 03, 2019 06:55PM

a lot of faceoff wing play is having the faceoff guy who doesnt win clean move the ball to the right spot.
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2019
Posted by: Swampy (---.cl.ri.cox.net)
Date: March 03, 2019 08:27PM

upprdeck
a lot of faceoff wing play is having the faceoff guy who doesnt win clean move the ball to the right spot.

Thanks. That makes sense.

In effect, you're saying that in the 3-man FO team, the FOGO is like the quarterback on a football team.

After I wrote my comment I thought the explanation might be along these lines. Though it's still amazing that another team's FO teamwork can be so much better that it wins almost 80% of the time.
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2019
Posted by: Jim Hyla (---.twcny.res.rr.com)
Date: March 03, 2019 08:44PM

Swampy
upprdeck
a lot of faceoff wing play is having the faceoff guy who doesnt win clean move the ball to the right spot.

Thanks. That makes sense.

In effect, you're saying that in the 3-man FO team, the FOGO is like the quarterback on a football team.

After I wrote my comment I thought the explanation might be along these lines. Though it's still amazing that another team's FO teamwork can be so much better that it wins almost 80% of the time.

It's really similar to hockey.

Each face-off guy has his set of moves. You've probably seen a face-off player moving his teammates around depending upon what he'll try to do.

But sometimes that move is just to confuse the opponent.

 
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Re: Cornell lacrosse 2019
Posted by: mike1960 (---.wi.res.rr.com)
Date: March 03, 2019 09:08PM

Jim Hyla
Swampy
upprdeck
a lot of faceoff wing play is having the faceoff guy who doesnt win clean move the ball to the right spot.

Thanks. That makes sense.

In effect, you're saying that in the 3-man FO team, the FOGO is like the quarterback on a football team.

After I wrote my comment I thought the explanation might be along these lines. Though it's still amazing that another team's FO teamwork can be so much better that it wins almost 80% of the time.

It's really similar to hockey.

Each face-off guy has his set of moves. You've probably seen a face-off player moving his teammates around depending upon what he'll try to do.

But sometimes that move is just to confuse the opponent.

We had some success against Lehigh's Gaffney with a long pole. Gaffney is a very good FOGO guy, but it appears he isn't the best ball handler. I think it was Salvatore who took the ball from Gaffney a few times after Gaffney controlled the face.
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2019
Posted by: billhoward (---.nwrk.east.verizon.net)
Date: March 03, 2019 09:51PM

Good, I'm not alone in being told the event ended. When it was the last 5 minutes. Sheesh.
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2019
Posted by: billhoward (---.nwrk.east.verizon.net)
Date: March 03, 2019 10:00PM

upprdeck
really, considering the penalty and face off issues ...
We can learn to take fewer penalties. Three games in, our faceoff percentage so far is .369. TD Ierlan at Yale is at .768. <sob>
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2019
Posted by: Cop at Lynah (---.cupolice.cornell.edu)
Date: March 03, 2019 11:43PM

With #1 Loyola and #2 Maryland losing this week it would appear Cornell will ascend to the #1 ranking. Blessing or curse ?
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 03/03/2019 11:43PM by Cop at Lynah.
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2019
Posted by: ugarte (---.dyn.optonline.net)
Date: March 03, 2019 11:58PM

Cop at Lynah
With #1 Loyola and #2 Maryland losing this week it would appear Cornell will ascend to the #1 ranking. Blessing or curse ?
insanity. 3-0, but all against unranked teams and all close calls. i haven't even watched anyone else and can't believe this team is going to scoop up that many votes.

 
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Re: Cornell lacrosse 2019
Posted by: Al DeFlorio (---.hsd1.ma.comcast.net)
Date: March 04, 2019 04:58AM

ugarte
Cop at Lynah
With #1 Loyola and #2 Maryland losing this week it would appear Cornell will ascend to the #1 ranking. Blessing or curse ?
insanity. 3-0, but all against unranked teams and all close calls. i haven't even watched anyone else and can't believe this team is going to scoop up that many votes.
Towson #1, unbeaten with wins over Loyola and Hopkins.

 
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Re: Cornell lacrosse 2019
Posted by: woodpile (---.dyn.optonline.net)
Date: March 04, 2019 05:48AM

Correcting the face-off problems is a difficult task. Fixing the goaltending is a no-brainer.
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2019
Posted by: Trotsky (---.washdc.fios.verizon.net)
Date: March 04, 2019 10:25AM

woodpile
Correcting the face-off problems is a difficult task. Fixing the goaltending is a no-brainer.
Don't they both come down to: try somebody else?
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2019
Posted by: billhoward (---.nwrk.east.verizon.net)
Date: March 04, 2019 11:11AM

Cop at Lynah
With #1 Loyola and #2 Maryland losing this week it would appear Cornell will ascend to the #1 ranking. Blessing or curse ?
No. 2, with Towson going from 7 to 1 in media poll.

March 4, 2019
1. Towson
2. Cornell
3. Loyola
4T. Penn State
4T. Yale

Has Chase Ierlan ever tried taking faceoffs? Maybe for him the G in FOGO would stand for Goalie. Just gotta figure out what the second O means.

Or: When is wrestling season over?
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 03/04/2019 11:12AM by billhoward.
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2019
Posted by: KenP (---.washdc.fios.verizon.net)
Date: March 04, 2019 11:26AM

The #1, #2 and #4 teams in the country... organizers of the Crown Lacrosse Classic are wetting themselves from excitement.
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2019
Posted by: ugarte (---.177.169.163.IPYX-102276-ZYO.zip.zayo.com)
Date: March 04, 2019 11:33AM

Trotsky
woodpile
Correcting the face-off problems is a difficult task. Fixing the goaltending is a no-brainer.
Don't they both come down to: try somebody else?
At goalie, there are two potential #1 candidates so that's basically right.

FOGO is a little different. It's a specialist position, where our guy would be facing a specialist. Right now our best FOGO is hurt, the backup is not doing that well but not totally killing us and there doesn't seem to be any one else the coach trusts more than a couple of times a game.

If Galadja and McGrath were hitting a rough patch Schafer wouldn't consider putting the pads on Bramwell. DO NOT RESPOND WITH THE NAME OF OUR THIRD-STRING GOALIE JUST BECAUSE I AM TOO LAZY TO LOOK IT UP.

 
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Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 03/04/2019 11:36AM by ugarte.
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2019
Posted by: nshapiro (192.148.195.---)
Date: March 04, 2019 11:47AM

upprdeck
a lot of faceoff wing play is having the faceoff guy who doesnt win clean move the ball to the right spot.

Agreed, but there were many situations where it seemed like a true 50/50 situation, with 6 guys battling for the ball, and we won very few of those.
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2019
Posted by: Trotsky (---.washdc.fios.verizon.net)
Date: March 04, 2019 12:25PM

ugarte
If Galadja and McGrath were hitting a rough patch Schafer wouldn't consider putting the pads on Bramwell. DO NOT RESPOND WITH THE NAME OF OUR THIRD-STRING GOALIE JUST BECAUSE I AM TOO LAZY TO LOOK IT UP.
His name is Jake McDonald and I am sure he's a fine young man.

(Looks it up.)

Shit. His name is Nate McDonald.
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2019
Posted by: CU2007 (---.sub-174-202-1.myvzw.com)
Date: March 04, 2019 01:17PM

billhoward
Cop at Lynah
With #1 Loyola and #2 Maryland losing this week it would appear Cornell will ascend to the #1 ranking. Blessing or curse ?
No. 2, with Towson going from 7 to 1 in media poll.

March 4, 2019
1. Towson
2. Cornell
3. Loyola
4T. Penn State
4T. Yale

Has Chase Ierlan ever tried taking faceoffs? Maybe for him the G in FOGO would stand for Goalie. Just gotta figure out what the second O means.

Or: When is wrestling season over?

Face-Offs, Goaltending otherwise
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2019
Posted by: Swampy (---.cl.ri.cox.net)
Date: March 04, 2019 02:27PM

KenP
The #1, #2 and #4 teams in the country... organizers of the Crown Lacrosse Classic are wetting themselves from excitement.

And thanks to the tie for #4, we get to play 3 of the top-4 teams in the country in 8 days.bananascareddrive
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2019
Posted by: Swampy (---.cl.ri.cox.net)
Date: March 04, 2019 02:49PM

The following list give FOGO statistics -- (School: FOGO Name, Pct. Won, Rank)

1. Towson: Alex Woodall, 74.2%, 3
2. Cornell: *
3. Loyola: Bailey Savio, 48.3%, 49
4T. Penn State: Gerard Arceri, 58.3%, 19
4T. Yale: TD Ierlan, 74.4%, 2

* Cornell has no one reported on the NCAA site, which implies at most our % is < 26.2.

We don't play Loyola, so in our next 3 games we'll be against the #19, #3, and #2 FOGOs.
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2019
Posted by: ugarte (---.177.169.163.ipyx-102276-zyo.zip.zayo.com)
Date: March 04, 2019 03:12PM

Swampy

* Cornell has no one reported on the NCAA site, which implies at most our % is < 26.2.
We have had a different FOGO take the majority in each game. The lowest FO taken on the NCAA list is 34 and we have three guys with around 30, one of whom is just under .500, so I think our FOGOs all barely missed the cutoff.

 
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Re: Cornell lacrosse 2019
Posted by: billhoward (---.nwrk.east.verizon.net)
Date: March 04, 2019 03:31PM

+1
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2019
Posted by: billhoward (---.nwrk.east.verizon.net)
Date: March 04, 2019 03:32PM

Trotsky
ugarte
If Galadja and McGrath were hitting a rough patch Schafer wouldn't consider putting the pads on Bramwell. DO NOT RESPOND WITH THE NAME OF OUR THIRD-STRING GOALIE JUST BECAUSE I AM TOO LAZY TO LOOK IT UP.
His name is Jake McDonald and I am sure he's a fine young man.
(Looks it up.)
Shit. His name is Nate McDonald.
His mother reads ELF. His girlfriend reads ELF. If you feel a pin-stab in your shoulder tonight ...
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2019
Posted by: CU77 (---.wireless.ucsb.edu)
Date: March 04, 2019 05:20PM

FOGO results, game by game (Hobart, Lehigh, Albany), from the box scores:

Rasimowicz:
14-30
0-0
0-0

Graham:
0-1
1-4
8-25

Tria:
3-7
4-10
3-10

Salvatore:
0-1
4-12
1-2

Bartolotto:
0-0
0-1
0-0
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 03/04/2019 05:21PM by CU77.
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2019
Posted by: Swampy (---.cl.ri.cox.net)
Date: March 04, 2019 05:47PM

CU77
FOGO results, game by game (Hobart, Lehigh, Albany), from the box scores:

Rasimowicz:
14-30
0-0
0-0

Graham:
0-1
1-4
8-25

Tria:
3-7
4-10
3-10

Salvatore:
0-1
4-12
1-2

Bartolotto:
0-0
0-1
0-0

This weekend it will be a big deal if Raz can play and if Graham continues to improve as he adjusts to the U.S. college rules.
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2019
Posted by: upprdeck (---.syrcny.east.verizon.net)
Date: March 04, 2019 09:22PM

if we can get games to 40% we will have solid chances.
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2019
Posted by: upprdeck (---.fs.cornell.edu)
Date: March 05, 2019 11:27AM

Pretty crappy that 2 big games this weekend and no tv/streaming. Makes you wonder if athletics even tried to get something done.
what is the b10 doing on a friday?
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2019
Posted by: Beeeej (Moderator)
Date: March 05, 2019 11:29AM

upprdeck
Pretty crappy that 2 big games this weekend and no tv/streaming. Makes you wonder if athletics even tried to get something done.
what is the b10 doing on a friday?

Isn't this tournament sponsored by Major League Lacrosse? I'd be surprised if Cornell Athletics had even remotely any say in the matter besides whether or not to accept the (rather attractive, let's face it) invitation.

 
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Re: Cornell lacrosse 2019
Posted by: Beeeej (Moderator)
Date: March 05, 2019 11:39AM

Beeeej
upprdeck
Pretty crappy that 2 big games this weekend and no tv/streaming. Makes you wonder if athletics even tried to get something done.
what is the b10 doing on a friday?

Isn't this tournament sponsored by Major League Lacrosse? I'd be surprised if Cornell Athletics had even remotely any say in the matter besides whether or not to accept the (rather attractive, let's face it) invitation.

Looks like it might get streamed here, but can't say for sure (and don't know if it'd be free): [www.lacrosse-tv.com]

 
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Re: Cornell lacrosse 2019
Posted by: billhoward (---.nwrk.east.verizon.net)
Date: March 05, 2019 11:56AM

Beeeej
upprdeck
Pretty crappy that 2 big games this weekend and no tv/streaming. Makes you wonder if athletics even tried to get something done.
what is the b10 doing on a friday?
Isn't this tournament sponsored by Major League Lacrosse? I'd be surprised if Cornell Athletics had even remotely any say in the matter besides whether or not to accept the (rather attractive, let's face it) invitation.
So attractive it ought to be on TV. There's still WHCU. Or a 10-hour, 675-mile trek from Ithaca; 650 from Manhattan. How can this not be televised?
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2019
Posted by: upprdeck (---.fs.cornell.edu)
Date: March 05, 2019 12:53PM

having a say in getting it done and trying to figure out a way to get it done are 2 different things

very few things our athletic dept does make much sense.
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2019
Posted by: Beeeej (Moderator)
Date: March 05, 2019 01:06PM

upprdeck
having a say in getting it done and trying to figure out a way to get it done are 2 different things

very few things our athletic dept does make much sense.

So, you... want them to try to figure out a way to get it done without having a say in getting it done?

Okay.

 
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- Steve Worona
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2019
Posted by: upprdeck (---.fs.cornell.edu)
Date: March 05, 2019 01:36PM

in talking with ADs around other colleges, yeah thats their job..

promote your school, promote your league, promote your sport.

work with the other schools, reach out to the games organizers and then reach out to ESPN or streamers and figure it out.

But knowing the school i doubt they even put any thought into it.

they cant force it to be televised, but they can spend some effort to try and get it done.


why do we think we have ticket/concession/venue/parking/streaming/tv/web site issues in athletics..
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2019
Posted by: billhoward (---.nwrk.east.verizon.net)
Date: March 05, 2019 02:17PM

This is what the Konica-Minolta and Big City Classics circa 2008-2015 wanted to be in Baltimore and Meadowlands (Giants-Jets Stadiumn). Now, we've got an event with 3 of the top 4 and it's in the heart of the pre-1970 lacrosse ground zero (the Confederacy) rather than today's main hotspot, Ontario stretching southeast through the Finger Lakes to Long Island and New Jersey.
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2019
Posted by: dbilmes (32.218.127.---)
Date: March 05, 2019 06:52PM

We caught a break against Albany last weekend. Thanks to the idiocy of the NCAA, one of their top scorers had to sit out the game.
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2019
Posted by: CU77 (---.sb.sd.cox.net)
Date: March 06, 2019 01:55AM

Albany, with Nanticoke back, just lost at home to UMass, 14-8. And Albany was owned on faceoffs, winning just 7 of 26. And UMass was owned on faceoffs against Yale by Ierlan ...
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2019
Posted by: Swampy (---.cl.ri.cox.net)
Date: March 06, 2019 10:08AM

CU77
Albany, with Nanticoke back, just lost at home to UMass, 14-8. And Albany was owned on faceoffs, winning just 7 of 26. And UMass was owned on faceoffs against Yale by Ierlan ...

Not sure what your point is. I'd be willing to bet anyone on this board that Yale's Ierlan will own us on the faceoff when we play them.

We don't need to bring UMass into the discussion to know that. When you're already at a limit, transitive properties are no longer relevant.
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2019
Posted by: TimV (---.amc.edu)
Date: March 06, 2019 11:42AM

Swampy
CU77
Albany, with Nanticoke back, just lost at home to UMass, 14-8. And Albany was owned on faceoffs, winning just 7 of 26. And UMass was owned on faceoffs against Yale by Ierlan ...

Not sure what your point is. I'd be willing to bet anyone on this board that Yale's Ierlan will own us on the faceoff when we play them.

We don't need to bring UMass into the discussion to know that. When you're already at a limit, transitive properties are no longer relevant.

Maybe he's showing that with some experience, coaching and/or a strategy change faceoff stats can be improved.

I don't believe the Nanticoke suspension was catching a break. When he plays, the ball doesn't move that well - he tends to keep it and go mano a mano. This makes him susceptible to doubles from his blind side and turnovers. I suspect our defense prepped for him all week, and when Albany held him out of the game they had to adjust to a modified Albany offensive plan. That actually worked in Albany's favor. It might be worthwhile for Albany to consider working that "Plan B" offense more early on in games, and then, when the defense tires, unleash Nanticoke's strength and skills on a gassed defense.

 
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Re: Cornell lacrosse 2019
Posted by: upprdeck (---.fs.cornell.edu)
Date: March 06, 2019 12:12PM

at 16-11 our D just stopped making plays, but the time on D adds up, still as someone mentioned.. we had multiple pt blank shots that we got zero goals on and a normal outcome would have been at least 1 probably 2
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2019
Posted by: Swampy (---.cl.ri.cox.net)
Date: March 06, 2019 12:40PM

upprdeck
at 16-11 our D just stopped making plays, but the time on D adds up, still as someone mentioned.. we had multiple pt blank shots that we got zero goals on and a normal outcome would have been at least 1 probably 2

So does this imply that our depth on D is the problem?

Obviously when the season started we knew that graduation had most seriously affected D & goal and that we needed to get stronger at FOGO. But we did bring in 3 1/2 D men (Adler is listed as D/LSM) and 2 highly rated FOGO's. Maybe if we could win a game or two by a larger margin these guys would get some playing time, and by mid-season we'd start to have more depth. But looking at the schedule, I don't know when this might be.

Even so, given how we've been doing at FOGO, I don't think there'd be much harm in giving more chances to Graham and Rothstein (who, I think, hasn't played at all).
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2019
Posted by: upprdeck (---.fs.cornell.edu)
Date: March 06, 2019 01:21PM

I guess we can look at as we have been up 5-6 goals in the 4th which no other team has done, or we have faltered in the 4th which is not a good thing. the D can only live so long down 1 Min penalties and winning so few faceoffs no matter the depth. if Faceoffs dont get better not sure how much the offense can bail them out.
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2019
Posted by: upprdeck (---.fs.cornell.edu)
Date: March 06, 2019 01:24PM

the season 2019

much different show this year.

a preseason show covering jan-march
3 reg season shows
a post season show

last year

3 falls shows
5 in season shows
2 post season shows

so half the content..
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2019
Posted by: djk26 (---.nycmny.fios.verizon.net)
Date: March 06, 2019 02:45PM

upprdeck
the season 2019

much different show this year.

a preseason show covering jan-march
3 reg season shows
a post season show

last year

3 falls shows
5 in season shows
2 post season shows

so half the content..

I was thinking the same thing...but there are also half the teams this year, right? Cornell men/Florida women in 2019--Duke/Ohio State/Syracuse/North Carolina men's teams in 2018. I only watched part of the first episode so far and I'm looking forward to seeing the rest and the new episodes. I wonder how "honest" it will be--will they get any quotes from Coach Milliman about the face-off struggles?
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2019
Posted by: Swampy (---.cl.ri.cox.net)
Date: March 06, 2019 03:22PM

djk26
upprdeck
the season 2019

much different show this year.

a preseason show covering jan-march
3 reg season shows
a post season show

last year

3 falls shows
5 in season shows
2 post season shows

so half the content..

I was thinking the same thing...but there are also half the teams this year, right? Cornell men/Florida women in 2019--Duke/Ohio State/Syracuse/North Carolina men's teams in 2018. I only watched part of the first episode so far and I'm looking forward to seeing the rest and the new episodes. I wonder how "honest" it will be--will they get any quotes from Coach Milliman about the face-off struggles?

In any case, they'd probably have to edit whatever he says so the show will be fit for family consumption.
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2019
Posted by: billhoward (---.nwrk.east.verizon.net)
Date: March 06, 2019 08:29PM

Swampy
CU77
Albany, with Nanticoke back, just lost at home to UMass, 14-8. And Albany was owned on faceoffs, winning just 7 of 26. And UMass was owned on faceoffs against Yale by Ierlan ...

Not sure what your point is. I'd be willing to bet anyone on this board that Yale's Ierlan will own us on the faceoff when we play them.

We don't need to bring UMass into the discussion to know that. When you're already at a limit, transitive properties are no longer relevant.
I liked it. Kind of a horror story building. You know, the next morning, when they go back to the lover's lane car they fled, there's a giant hook slammed into the car door, with a Maverik glove swinging from the stick. The glove has TD written on in magic marker.
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2019
Posted by: billhoward (---.nwrk.east.verizon.net)
Date: March 06, 2019 08:32PM

TimV
Swampy
CU77
Albany, with Nanticoke back, just lost at home to UMass, 14-8. And Albany was owned on faceoffs, winning just 7 of 26. And UMass was owned on faceoffs against Yale by Ierlan ...

Not sure what your point is. I'd be willing to bet anyone on this board that Yale's Ierlan will own us on the faceoff when we play them.

We don't need to bring UMass into the discussion to know that. When you're already at a limit, transitive properties are no longer relevant.

Maybe he's showing that with some experience, coaching and/or a strategy change faceoff stats can be improved.

I don't believe the Nanticoke suspension was catching a break. When he plays, the ball doesn't move that well - he tends to keep it and go mano a mano. This makes him susceptible to doubles from his blind side and turnovers. I suspect our defense prepped for him all week, and when Albany held him out of the game they had to adjust to a modified Albany offensive plan. That actually worked in Albany's favor. It might be worthwhile for Albany to consider working that "Plan B" offense more early on in games, and then, when the defense tires, unleash Nanticoke's strength and skills on a gassed defense.
Because the Cornell D prepped to contain the potential damage an 80-point scorer could do, and then when he wasn't there, Cornell was at a disadvantage?
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2019
Posted by: upprdeck (---.syrcny.east.verizon.net)
Date: March 06, 2019 10:40PM

giving up 11 in almost 50 min was fine.. it was giving 5 in the last 10 min that was bad.. kind like the lehigh game in reverse
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2019
Posted by: TimV (---.nycap.res.rr.com)
Date: March 07, 2019 12:13AM

billhoward
TimV
Swampy
CU77
Albany, with Nanticoke back, just lost at home to UMass, 14-8. And Albany was owned on faceoffs, winning just 7 of 26. And UMass was owned on faceoffs against Yale by Ierlan ...

Not sure what your point is. I'd be willing to bet anyone on this board that Yale's Ierlan will own us on the faceoff when we play them.

We don't need to bring UMass into the discussion to know that. When you're already at a limit, transitive properties are no longer relevant.

Maybe he's showing that with some experience, coaching and/or a strategy change faceoff stats can be improved.

I don't believe the Nanticoke suspension was catching a break. When he plays, the ball doesn't move that well - he tends to keep it and go mano a mano. This makes him susceptible to doubles from his blind side and turnovers. I suspect our defense prepped for him all week, and when Albany held him out of the game they had to adjust to a modified Albany offensive plan. That actually worked in Albany's favor. It might be worthwhile for Albany to consider working that "Plan B" offense more early on in games, and then, when the defense tires, unleash Nanticoke's strength and skills on a gassed defense.
Because the Cornell D prepped to contain the potential damage an 80-point scorer could do, and then when he wasn't there, Cornell was at a disadvantage?

Hardly. I've seen a lot of their games live and I'm kinda familiar with how defenses prepare and scheme. Their game is different when he's in. More one on one bull dodges to the net and coming around from behind. Less shots coming from the midfield. There's only one ball and it often gets stuck in his stick when hes in. See if you can find an archive of their Syracuse game. Or their game Tuesday vs UMass who spanked them on their own field.

 
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Re: Cornell lacrosse 2019
Posted by: upprdeck (---.fs.cornell.edu)
Date: March 08, 2019 02:19PM

Anyone know what this means?

scores/stats/ real video?
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2019
Posted by: mike1960 (---.wi.res.rr.com)
Date: March 08, 2019 03:21PM

It looks like the games will be streamed!

[cornellbigred.com]
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2019
Posted by: George64 (---.hsd1.fl.comcast.net)
Date: March 08, 2019 03:23PM

upprdeck
Anyone know what this means?

scores/stats/ real video?

Apparently all four games to be streamed.
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2019
Posted by: ugarte (---.177.169.163.ipyx-102276-zyo.zip.zayo.com)
Date: March 08, 2019 03:28PM

George64
upprdeck
Anyone know what this means?

scores/stats/ real video?

Apparently all four games to be streamed.
i guess that they got it done and maybe even had a say

 
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Re: Cornell lacrosse 2019
Posted by: upprdeck (---.sub-174-220-20.myvzw.com)
Date: March 08, 2019 04:54PM

I wonder who had a talk with athletics
 
Re: Cornell lacrosse 2019
Posted by: Al DeFlorio (---.hsd1.ma.comcast.net)
Date: March 08, 2019 06:42PM

Raining during Towson game. Players splash as they run. May have stopped raining as some on the sidelines have their hoods down on the rain jackets.

 
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Re: Cornell lacrosse 2019 - Crown Classic
Posted by: billhoward (---.nwrk.east.verizon.net)
Date: March 08, 2019 07:42PM

Cornell apparently told the organizers, "We want video in the worst way."
 
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