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Cornell football 2017

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Re: Cornell football 2017
Posted by: ugarte (---.dyn.optonline.net)
Date: November 05, 2017 09:56PM

Ken711
scoop85
ugarte
Ken711
Will Cornell win another game that is question.
They gave up 10 points. The fatalism here is crazy. This has been a good year.

We’re certainly more competitive, and the improvement on defense has been encouraging. The past few years our defense was blown off the ball, and that’s not happening anymore.

4-6 last year. Would you consider a possible 3-7 record an improvement even if the defense if playing better?
yes tbh

 
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Re: Cornell football 2017
Posted by: ugarte (---.dyn.optonline.net)
Date: November 11, 2017 02:17PM

Bend-but-don't-break defense lets Columbia into the red zone twice but a strip-sack and a stalled drive held Columbia to a 3-0 lead. Cornell went three-and-out on the first two drives but a solid third drive gets Cornell a field goal try ... that hits the upright. Still 3-0 Lions, early in Q2.

Columbia returns the favor by missing a FG but their defense holds and forces another Null punt, then drives into the red zone again but is held to a FG again. 6-0 with under a minute left in the first half.

 
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Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 11/11/2017 02:49PM by ugarte.
 
Re: Cornell football 2017
Posted by: Ken711 (---.hr.hr.cox.net)
Date: November 11, 2017 04:19PM

17-0 Columbia. FIRE ARCHER!!!
 
Re: Cornell football 2017
Posted by: Ken711 (---.hr.hr.cox.net)
Date: November 11, 2017 04:21PM

Shut out the last 2 games. Enough is enough....get rid of this whole staff.
 
Re: Cornell football 2017
Posted by: TimV (---.nycap.res.rr.com)
Date: November 11, 2017 05:42PM

Got a touchdown in garbage time. Remember that old hockey cheer? "IT JUST DOESN'T MATTER!"

I think they might have set a record for most penalties in one possession on that first drive of the game. Zero discipline.

 
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Re: Cornell football 2017
Posted by: Ken711 (---.hr.hr.cox.net)
Date: November 11, 2017 06:15PM

TimV
Got a touchdown in garbage time. Remember that old hockey cheer? "IT JUST DOESN'T MATTER!"

I think they might have set a record for most penalties in one possession on that first drive of the game. Zero discipline.

Garbage TD but effectively shutout at home when it counted. This team will end up 3-7, FIRE ARCHER!!!
 
Re: Cornell football 2017
Posted by: billhoward (---.sub-70-192-76.myvzw.com)
Date: November 14, 2017 02:29PM

Ken711
17-0 Columbia. FIRE ARCHER!!!
Check see how happy Jason Garrett is coaching the Cowboys?
 
Re: Cornell football 2017
Posted by: Ken711 (---.washdc.fios.verizon.net)
Date: November 14, 2017 05:54PM

billhoward
Ken711
17-0 Columbia. FIRE ARCHER!!!
Check see how happy Jason Garrett is coaching the Cowboys?

David Archer has a .324 winning percentage so far in almost 5 years as head coach.

[www.voy.com]
 
Re: Cornell football 2017
Posted by: CAS (---.hsd1.nj.comcast.net)
Date: November 14, 2017 06:22PM

Archer’s career win percentage as head coach is actually .245 (12-37).
 
Re: Cornell football 2017
Posted by: Ken711 (---.washdc.fios.verizon.net)
Date: November 14, 2017 08:36PM

CAS
Archer’s career win percentage as head coach is actually .245 (12-37).

Yikes worse than I thought. wow
 
Re: Cornell football 2017
Posted by: Trotsky (---.washdc.fios.verizon.net)
Date: November 14, 2017 11:52PM

CAS
Archer’s career win percentage as head coach is actually .245 (12-37).
What is Cornell's winning percentage for the last 50 years? I would not be surprised if it was under .400.
 
Re: Cornell football 2017
Posted by: Ken711 (---.washdc.fios.verizon.net)
Date: November 15, 2017 06:39AM

Trotsky
CAS
Archer’s career win percentage as head coach is actually .245 (12-37).
What is Cornell's winning percentage for the last 50 years? I would not be surprised if it was under .400.

Nope. 130 years of Cornell football total win-loss record 646–522–33 (.552)
 
Re: Cornell football 2017
Posted by: Beeeej (Moderator)
Date: November 15, 2017 07:54AM

Ken711
Trotsky
CAS
Archer’s career win percentage as head coach is actually .245 (12-37).
What is Cornell's winning percentage for the last 50 years? I would not be surprised if it was under .400.

Nope. 130 years of Cornell football total win-loss record 646–522–33 (.552)

No, Cornell's winning percentage for the last 50 years isn't under .400 because it's .552 for the last 130 years...?

 
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Re: Cornell football 2017
Posted by: Swampy (---.ri.ri.cox.net)
Date: November 15, 2017 09:13AM

Beeeej
Ken711
Trotsky
CAS
Archer’s career win percentage as head coach is actually .245 (12-37).
What is Cornell's winning percentage for the last 50 years? I would not be surprised if it was under .400.

Nope. 130 years of Cornell football total win-loss record 646–522–33 (.552)

No, Cornell's winning percentage for the last 50 years isn't under .400 because it's .552 for the last 130 years...?

Law of Large Numbers
 
Re: Cornell football 2017
Posted by: mountainred (69.43.54.---)
Date: November 15, 2017 09:25AM

Trotsky
CAS
Archer’s career win percentage as head coach is actually .245 (12-37).
What is Cornell's winning percentage for the last 50 years? I would not be surprised if it was under .400.

Feel free to double check my math, but I have Cornell at 156-209-2 since I-AA was formed in the early 80's. That's a winning percentage of .427 (not counting the ties).
Since the Ivy League was formed, it's 256-328-7, which is a .438 percentage (again, not counting ties).

Basically,in the Ivy era, Cornell has had three FB coaches with a winning record: Musick, Hofer, Mangurian.
 
Re: Cornell football 2017
Posted by: Trotsky (---.dc.dc.cox.net)
Date: November 15, 2017 09:33AM

Swampy
Beeeej
Ken711
Trotsky
CAS
Archer’s career win percentage as head coach is actually .245 (12-37).
What is Cornell's winning percentage for the last 50 years? I would not be surprised if it was under .400.

Nope. 130 years of Cornell football total win-loss record 646–522–33 (.552)

No, Cornell's winning percentage for the last 50 years isn't under .400 because it's .552 for the last 130 years...?

Law of Large Numbers

And you win the thread.
 
Re: Cornell football 2017
Posted by: Ken711 (---.washdc.fios.verizon.net)
Date: November 15, 2017 12:42PM

For all those interested.

[www.cornellbigred.com]

The Cornell administration either has to get serious and support this team sport or just drop it. Columbia finally came to their senses and brought in an outside consultant to do a top to bottom review on what needed to be done to field a highly competitive team. I don't see why not Cornell can't do the same.
 
Re: Cornell football 2017
Posted by: billhoward (---.sub-70-192-76.myvzw.com)
Date: November 15, 2017 01:13PM

Ken711
For all those interested.

[www.cornellbigred.com]

The Cornell administration either has to get serious and support this team sport or just drop it. Columbia finally came to their senses and brought in an outside consultant to do a top to bottom review on what needed to be done to field a highly competitive team. I don't see why not Cornell can't do the same.
Consultant gets lost and wanders about, he'll wind up with manure on his shoes. At Columbia, the only danger was stepping on a used syringe.
 
Re: Cornell football 2017
Posted by: CAS (---.hsd1.nj.comcast.net)
Date: November 15, 2017 02:07PM

Interesting Cornell had a winning program from 1983-2000 (we were 13 games over .500 in the Ivies over this period). Since then our record has been abysmal. We can win with the right leadership & institutional support. Btw Andy was named AD in 1999.
 
Re: Cornell football 2017
Posted by: Trotsky (---.dc.dc.cox.net)
Date: November 15, 2017 02:17PM

billhoward
Consultant gets lost and wanders about, he'll wind up with manure on his shoes. At Columbia, the only danger was stepping on a used syringe.
Rural drug abuse is now higher than urban drug abuse.
 
Re: Cornell football 2017
Posted by: David Harding (---.hsd1.il.comcast.net)
Date: November 16, 2017 12:04AM

Ken711
For all those interested.

[www.cornellbigred.com]

The Cornell administration either has to get serious and support this team sport or just drop it. Columbia finally came to their senses and brought in an outside consultant to do a top to bottom review on what needed to be done to field a highly competitive team. I don't see why not Cornell can't do the same.
I couldn't resist grabbing that w/l/t data by year and looking for the best 50-year stretch. 1891-1940 with a rate of 0.681. That's counting ties as half a win. Best decade was 1914-1923 at 0.776, though that includes 1918, when there was no team. See attached graph.
 

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Re: Cornell football 2017
Posted by: Roy 82 (128.18.14.---)
Date: November 17, 2017 02:03PM

Trotsky
billhoward
Consultant gets lost and wanders about, he'll wind up with manure on his shoes. At Columbia, the only danger was stepping on a used syringe.
Rural drug abuse is now higher than urban drug abuse.

I was thinking the same thing. Our stereotypes die hard.
 
Re: Cornell football 2017
Posted by: arugula (---.s2163.c3-0.avec-ubr2.nyr-avec.ny.cable.rcncustomer.com)
Date: November 18, 2017 12:15PM

Setting aside the statistics, Bill Howard, thats just a remarkably douche-y thing to write
 
Re: Cornell football 2017 - @ Penn 29 Cornell 22 (F)
Posted by: billhoward (---.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net)
Date: November 18, 2017 02:14PM

Cornell up 10-7 on Penn early in second quarter. Cornell fumbles ball away at midfield, Penn TD in closing seconds of first half puts Quakers up 21-10. Cornell living and dying by the turnover today.

Lots of turnovers. Cornell keeps it close. Cannot punch in the tying TD on the game's final play. Penn 29, Cornell 22. We finish 3-4 in the Ivies. Wish it ended better for the seniors.

Yale wins the league title outright, 7-1, only loss 28-27 to Dartmouth. Columbia and Dartmouth second at 5-2.
Edited 3 time(s). Last edit at 11/18/2017 04:58PM by billhoward.
 
Re: Cornell football 2017 - @ Penn
Posted by: Al DeFlorio (---.hsd1.ma.comcast.net)
Date: November 18, 2017 02:34PM

billhoward
Cornell up 10-7 on Penn early in second quarter.
No more. Now 14-10 Penn. Can't stop wide running plays. Two Cornell picks or it would be a rout.

 
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Re: Cornell football 2017 - @ Penn
Posted by: George64 (---.rochester.res.rr.com)
Date: November 18, 2017 02:53PM

21-10 at the half.
 
Re: Cornell football 2017 - @ Penn
Posted by: Al DeFlorio (---.hsd1.ma.comcast.net)
Date: November 18, 2017 02:59PM

George64
21-10 at the half.
Penn's offense is so creative and fluid while Cornell's is so stagnant and predictable. You would think someone on the Cornell staff would open his eyes and say "why don't we do that."

 
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Re: Cornell football 2017 - @ Penn
Posted by: Trotsky (---.washdc.fios.verizon.net)
Date: November 18, 2017 03:01PM

Are those different helmets? They look like a flat matte and are very 1950s -- I love them.
 
Re: Cornell football 2017 - @ Penn
Posted by: billhoward (---.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net)
Date: November 18, 2017 03:19PM

Trotsky
Are those different helmets? They look like a flat matte and are very 1950s -- I love them.
Believe Cornell has had matte helmets before this year. You'll see Harvard has a very-matte helmet if you flip to CNBC.
 
Re: Cornell football 2017 - @ Penn
Posted by: TimV (---.nycap.res.rr.com)
Date: November 18, 2017 03:23PM

Yep. At least the third season with them. On TV appears to be a deeper hue this year, but matte finish nonetheless. Or, considering team performance, eggshell. I prefer gloss.

 
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Re: Cornell football 2017 - @ Penn
Posted by: TimV (---.nycap.res.rr.com)
Date: November 18, 2017 03:25PM

Because we don't recruit like that?

 
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Re: Cornell football 2017 - @ Penn
Posted by: Jeff Hopkins '82 (---.102.139.102.res-cmts.sm.ptd.net)
Date: November 18, 2017 03:28PM

TimV
Because we don't recruit like that?

I prefer to think it's because the football team doesn't know how to finish.
 
Re: Cornell football 2017 - @ Penn
Posted by: TimV (---.nycap.res.rr.com)
Date: November 18, 2017 04:33PM

Don't know why Archer chooses to accept a penalty that gives the offense (that has shredded him all day) an extra down that leads to the TD that beats him- then runs the ball with 17 seconds left and no TOs ensuring only one more chance to score. Jeez.

 
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Re: Cornell football 2017 - @ Penn
Posted by: Trotsky (---.washdc.fios.verizon.net)
Date: November 18, 2017 04:35PM

No Jatis, no win.
 
Re: Cornell football 2017
Posted by: ugarte (---.dyn.optonline.net)
Date: November 18, 2017 04:36PM

That was a hell of a finish. 29-22 loss but Cornell stopped after getting 1st-and-goal from the 2 with 18 seconds left.Agree that a run on 1st down from the 3 with no TOs left was a dubious choice.

Impressive to come back from 21-10 to take the lead but after pinning Penn at their own 3 with a great punt, they give up a 97 yard TD drive. Rough loss to close the year. Also agreed that 3d and 15 from the 23 is better than 2d and 20 from the 18.

Great games from Shaw, Gesualidi and Coles a good game from Banks and as good a game as you could ask for out of Jones - 3(!) interceptions but I-AA All-American Watson had 13 catches for 192 yards, so...

 
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Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 11/18/2017 04:40PM by ugarte.
 
Re: Cornell football 2017 - @ Penn
Posted by: Ken711 (---.washdc.fios.verizon.net)
Date: November 18, 2017 04:59PM

TimV
Don't know why Archer chooses to accept a penalty that gives the offense (that has shredded him all day) an extra down that leads to the TD that beats him- then runs the ball with 17 seconds left and no TOs ensuring only one more chance to score. Jeez.

This staff cannot manage the clock or the game. It's been demonstrated time and time again. Cornell needs new leadership or it's doomed to remain in the bottom of the Ivy League standings again next year.
 
Re: Cornell football 2017 - @ Penn
Posted by: marty (---.sub-70-209-140.myvzw.com)
Date: November 18, 2017 06:47PM

Ken711
TimV
Don't know why Archer chooses to accept a penalty that gives the offense (that has shredded him all day) an extra down that leads to the TD that beats him- then runs the ball with 17 seconds left and no TOs ensuring only one more chance to score. Jeez.

This staff cannot manage the clock or the game. It's been demonstrated time and time again. Cornell needs new leadership or it's doomed to remain in the bottom of the Ivy League standings again next year.

I know most are really negative and because I don't follow closely I'm wondering how much the injury bug hurt this year. Even the Penn announcers mentioned this today.
 
Re: Cornell football 2017 - @ Penn
Posted by: Al DeFlorio (---.hsd1.ma.comcast.net)
Date: November 18, 2017 06:52PM

marty
Ken711
TimV
Don't know why Archer chooses to accept a penalty that gives the offense (that has shredded him all day) an extra down that leads to the TD that beats him- then runs the ball with 17 seconds left and no TOs ensuring only one more chance to score. Jeez.

This staff cannot manage the clock or the game. It's been demonstrated time and time again. Cornell needs new leadership or it's doomed to remain in the bottom of the Ivy League standings again next year.

I know most are really negative and because I don't follow closely I'm wondering how much the injury bug hurt this year. Even the Penn announcers mentioned this today.
Was the guy calling plays injured?barf

 
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Re: Cornell football 2017
Posted by: Al DeFlorio (---.hsd1.ma.comcast.net)
Date: November 18, 2017 07:28PM

When the other guys convert 12 of 16 3rd and 4th down attempts you're gonna be in trouble.

 
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Re: Cornell football 2017 - @ Penn
Posted by: Ken711 (---.washdc.fios.verizon.net)
Date: November 18, 2017 07:53PM

marty
Ken711
TimV
Don't know why Archer chooses to accept a penalty that gives the offense (that has shredded him all day) an extra down that leads to the TD that beats him- then runs the ball with 17 seconds left and no TOs ensuring only one more chance to score. Jeez.

This staff cannot manage the clock or the game. It's been demonstrated time and time again. Cornell needs new leadership or it's doomed to remain in the bottom of the Ivy League standings again next year.

I know most are really negative and because I don't follow closely I'm wondering how much the injury bug hurt this year. Even the Penn announcers mentioned this today.

Archer claimed he finally had depth at positions. Cole at RB was a good example. Where were his carries in the Columbia and Dartmouth games? It's game planing, half-time adjustments and clock management which are sorely lacking with this staff. Columbia finished 8-2 in Al Bagnoli's 3rd year. Archer is 12-38 in 5 years!
 
Re: Cornell football 2017 - @ Penn
Posted by: TimV (---.nycap.res.rr.com)
Date: November 18, 2017 10:34PM

marty
Ken711
TimV
Don't know why Archer chooses to accept a penalty that gives the offense (that has shredded him all day) an extra down that leads to the TD that beats him- then runs the ball with 17 seconds left and no TOs ensuring only one more chance to score. Jeez.

This staff cannot manage the clock or the game. It's been demonstrated time and time again. Cornell needs new leadership or it's doomed to remain in the bottom of the Ivy League standings again next year.

I know most are really negative and because I don't follow closely I'm wondering how much the injury bug hurt this year. Even the Penn announcers mentioned this today.


You think Archer had a brain injury??? We'll have to check for the Tau protein.

 
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Re: Cornell football 2017 - coaching realignment
Posted by: billhoward (---.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net)
Date: November 19, 2017 02:56PM

If Jeff Archer's tenure is in question in the world of football, not just here, then it has to be clarified soon so recruiting doesn't suffer. A HS senior player choosing among Cornell, Lehigh, Penn would like to know who's going to be head coach. Not that players are the last word, but I'm curious how they feel about Archer as a coach. Good story for the Daily Sun to track.
 
Re: Cornell football 2017 - coaching realignment
Posted by: Ken711 (---.washdc.fios.verizon.net)
Date: November 19, 2017 04:45PM

billhoward
If Jeff Archer's tenure is in question in the world of football, not just here, then it has to be clarified soon so recruiting doesn't suffer. A HS senior player choosing among Cornell, Lehigh, Penn would like to know who's going to be head coach. Not that players are the last word, but I'm curious how they feel about Archer as a coach. Good story for the Daily Sun to track.

I'm sure a good portion of the recruiting has already taken place, even if David (Jeff) Archer is removed. I feeling a AN will bring him back for a 6 year, not that Cornell is going to challenge for the Ivy title in 2018.
 
Re: Cornell football 2017 - coaching realignment
Posted by: billhoward (---.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net)
Date: November 20, 2017 12:35AM

Ken711
billhoward
If Jeff Archer's tenure is in question in the world of football, not just here, then it has to be clarified soon so recruiting doesn't suffer. A HS senior player choosing among Cornell, Lehigh, Penn would like to know who's going to be head coach. Not that players are the last word, but I'm curious how they feel about Archer as a coach. Good story for the Daily Sun to track.

I'm sure a good portion of the recruiting has already taken place, even if David (Jeff) Archer is removed. I feeling a AN will bring him back for a 6 year, not that Cornell is going to challenge for the Ivy title in 2018.
When Ben DeLuca was turned free, a good deal of the recruiting had been done, but players still chose to go elsewhere when it came for them to commit as students in the April-May period.
 
Re: Cornell football 2017 - @ Penn
Posted by: CU2007 (160.254.108.---)
Date: November 20, 2017 11:29AM

TimV
Don't know why Archer chooses to accept a penalty that gives the offense (that has shredded him all day) an extra down that leads to the TD that beats him- then runs the ball with 17 seconds left and no TOs ensuring only one more chance to score. Jeez.

This. Both of these were unbelievably stupid decisions. Truly mind boggling at the D1 level.
 
Re: Cornell football 2017 - @ Penn
Posted by: Ken711 (---.washdc.fios.verizon.net)
Date: November 20, 2017 02:17PM

CU2007
TimV
Don't know why Archer chooses to accept a penalty that gives the offense (that has shredded him all day) an extra down that leads to the TD that beats him- then runs the ball with 17 seconds left and no TOs ensuring only one more chance to score. Jeez.

This. Both of these were unbelievably stupid decisions. Truly mind boggling at the D1 level.

Cornell always seems to make one head scratching call at a critical junction in a close game, The staff either panics or is ill prepared....take your choice.
 
Re: Cornell football 2017 - @ Penn
Posted by: billhoward (---.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net)
Date: November 20, 2017 02:22PM

CU2007
TimV
Don't know why Archer chooses to accept a penalty that gives the offense (that has shredded him all day) an extra down that leads to the TD that beats him- then runs the ball with 17 seconds left and no TOs ensuring only one more chance to score. Jeez.
This. Both of these were unbelievably stupid decisions. Truly mind boggling at the D1 level.
Stupid when it doesn't work out. Duffy Daugherty of Michigan State said (this was a long time ago), "Anybody can tell me the play we should have run on Monday morning. I've got 20 seconds and there's 100,000 people in the stadium screaming at the top of their lungs." Although Tom Brady seems to have adapted nicely.
 
Re: Cornell football 2017 - @ Penn
Posted by: CU2007 (160.254.108.---)
Date: November 20, 2017 02:40PM

billhoward
CU2007
TimV
Don't know why Archer chooses to accept a penalty that gives the offense (that has shredded him all day) an extra down that leads to the TD that beats him- then runs the ball with 17 seconds left and no TOs ensuring only one more chance to score. Jeez.
This. Both of these were unbelievably stupid decisions. Truly mind boggling at the D1 level.
Stupid when it doesn't work out. Duffy Daugherty of Michigan State said (this was a long time ago), "Anybody can tell me the play we should have run on Monday morning. I've got 20 seconds and there's 100,000 people in the stadium screaming at the top of their lungs." Although Tom Brady seems to have adapted nicely.

I generally agree with the sentiment but giving the opponent 2nd and 20 rather than 3rd and 15 is stupid even if it does work out. Likewise running the ball with 20 seconds and no time outs. Even if he had made it in the end zone, I still would be genuinely shocked they called the play and questioned the thought process.
 
Re: Cornell football 2017 - @ Penn
Posted by: ugarte (---.177.169.163.ipyx-102276-zyo.zip.zayo.com)
Date: November 20, 2017 04:46PM

CU2007
billhoward
CU2007
TimV
Don't know why Archer chooses to accept a penalty that gives the offense (that has shredded him all day) an extra down that leads to the TD that beats him- then runs the ball with 17 seconds left and no TOs ensuring only one more chance to score. Jeez.
This. Both of these were unbelievably stupid decisions. Truly mind boggling at the D1 level.
Stupid when it doesn't work out. Duffy Daugherty of Michigan State said (this was a long time ago), "Anybody can tell me the play we should have run on Monday morning. I've got 20 seconds and there's 100,000 people in the stadium screaming at the top of their lungs." Although Tom Brady seems to have adapted nicely.

I generally agree with the sentiment but giving the opponent 2nd and 20 rather than 3rd and 15 is stupid even if it does work out. Likewise running the ball with 20 seconds and no time outs. Even if he had made it in the end zone, I still would be genuinely shocked they called the play and questioned the thought process.
eh if he got in you literally never would have thought about it because you wouldn't have been forced to

 
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Re: Cornell football 2017 - @ Penn
Posted by: TimV (---.amc.edu)
Date: November 21, 2017 03:39PM

+1. Success doesn't make it smart. It makes it lucky.

 
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Re: Cornell football 2017 - All-Ivy
Posted by: billhoward (---.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net)
Date: November 21, 2017 09:43PM

[Nick] [www.cornellbigred.com]

Cornell
The Cornell football team earned seven All-Ivy League nods, including a unanimous first-team selection for senior safety Nick Gesualdi, when the conference awards were announced on Tuesday afternoon. Sophomore Nickolas Null was the second-team place-kicker and honorable mention punter, senior linebacker Kurt Frimel and junior offensive lineman Jay Edward Keating were second-team picks and junior DJ Woullard and sophomore David Jones, both defensive backs, were honorable mention team members.

8 from Yale on the first team. 3 from Columbia plus coach of the year. Player of the year gets announced later.

ROOKIE OF THE YEAR
*Zane Dudek, Yale (Fr., RB – Kittanning, Pa.)

COACH OF THE YEAR
AL Bagnoli, Columbia

FIRST-TEAM ALL-IVY
Offense
Jon Bezney, Yale (Sr., OL – Cincinnati)
Matt Kaskey, Dartmouth (Jr., OL – Winnetka, Ill.)
Nathan Kirchmier, Penn (Sr., OL – Pembroke Pines, Fla.)
Karl Marback, Yale (Sr., OL – Birmingham, Mich.)
Mitchell Sweigart, Princeton (Sr., OL – Washington Boro, Pa.)
*Chad Kanoff, Princeton (Sr., QB – Pacific Palisades, Calif.)
*Zane Dudek, Yale (Fr., RB – Kittanning, Pa.)
Charlie Booker III, Harvard (Jr., RB – Houston)
*Jesper Horsted, Princeton (Jr., WR – Shoreview, Minn.)
Josh Wainwright, Columbia (Jr., WR – Austin, Texas)
*Justin Watson, Penn (Sr., WR – Bridgeville, Pa.)
Jaeden Graham, Yale (Sr., TE – Aurora, Colo.)

Defense
John Herubin, Yale (Sr., DL – Coppell, Texas)
Lord Hyeamang, Columbia (Sr., DL – Lakeville, Minn.)
*Richard Jarvis, Brown (Sr., DE – Watertown, Mass.)
Louis Vecchio, Penn (Sr., DE – Orange, Calif.)
Tom Johnson, Princeton (Jr., LB – Moorestown, N.J.)
Nick Miller, Penn (Jr., LB – New Market, Md.)
*Matthew Oplinger, Yale (Sr., LB – Summit, N.J.)
*Jack Traynor, Dartmouth (Sr., LB – Lake Forest, Ill.)
Hayden Carlson, Yale (Sr., DB – Glen Ellyn, Ill.)
*Nick Gesualdi, Cornell (Sr., S – Sykesville, Md.)
Cameron Roane, Columbia (Sr., DB – Durham, N.C.)
Spencer Rymiszewski, Yale (Sr., DB – West Chester, Pa.)

Special Teams
Jack Soslow, Penn (Jr., K – Bryn Mawr, Pa.)
Parker Thome, Columbia (Sr., P – Hortonville, Wis.)
*Justice Shelton-Mosley, Harvard (Jr., WR/RS – Sacramento, Calif.)

SECOND-TEAM ALL-IVY^
Offense
Eric Ramirez, Princeton (Sr., OL – York, Pa.)
Patrick Kilcommons, Dartmouth (Jr., OL – Berwyn, Ill.)
J. Edward Keating, Cornell (Jr., OL – Birmingham, Mich.)
Anders Huizenga, Yale (Sr., OL – Trophy Club, Texas)
Christian Montano, Brown (Sr., OL – Orange, Conn.)
Clay Eubank, Brown (Sr., OL – Coto De Caza, Calif.)
Bewley Wales, Columbia (Sr., OL – Tulsa, Okla.)
Tommy Dennis, Penn (Jr., OT – East Setauket, N.Y.)
Reily Radosevich, Princeton (So., OL – Manalapan, N.J.)
Sterling Strother, Yale (So., OL – Moraga, Calif.)
Anders Hill, Columbia (Sr., QB – Boulder, Colo.)
Tre Solomon, Penn (Sr., RB – Brooklyn, N.Y.)
Charlie Volker, Princeton (Jr., RB – Fair Haven, N.J.)
Stephen Carlson, Princeton (Jr., WR – Jamestown, N.Y.)
Hunter Hagdorn, Dartmouth (So., WR – Manvel, Texas)
Chris Williams-Lopez, Yale (Sr., WR – Duluth, Ga.)
Nick Bokun, Penn (Sr., TE – Hobart, Ind.)

Defense
Charles Callender, Yale (So., DE – Cutler Bay, Fla.)
Stone Hart, Harvard (Sr., DT – Olympia, Wash.)
Kyle Mullen, Yale (Jr., DE – Manalapan, N.J.)
Nick Tomkins, Dartmouth (Sr., DL – Matawan, N.J.)
Kurt Frimel, Cornell (Sr., LB – Cream Ridge, N.J.)
Luke Hutton, Harvard (Sr., LB – Austin, Texas)
Eric Meile, Dartmouth (Sr., LB – Ramsey, N.J.)
Foyesade Oluokun, Yale (Sr., LB – St. Louis)
Landon Baty, Columbia (Sr., DB – Mountain View, Calif.)
Tanner Lee, Harvard (Sr., S – Spanish Fort, Ala.)
Danny McManus, Dartmouth (Sr., DB – Mendota Heights, Minn.)
Sam Philippi, Penn (Jr., DB – Trabuco Canyon, Calif.)
Isiah Swann, Dartmouth (So., DB – Queen Creek, Ariz.)

Special Teams
Nickolas Null, Cornell (So., K – Bradenton, Fla.)
Alex Galland, Yale (Jr., P – Bakersfield, Calif.)
Tiger Bech, Princeton (So., WR/RS – Lafayette, La.)

HONORABLE MENTION
Offense
Jack Anderson, Dartmouth (Sr., OL – Palo Alto, Calif.)
Greg Begnoche, Penn (So., OT – Delray Beach, Fla.)
Dieter Eiselen, Yale (So., OL – Stellenbosch, South Africa)
Markham Paukune, Columbia (Sr., OL – Fort Worth, Texas)
Jack Heneghan, Dartmouth (Sr., QB – Atherton, Calif.)
Kurt Rawlings, Yale (So., QB – Bel Air, Md.)
Karekin Brooks, Penn (So., RB – Marietta, Ga.)
Deshawn Salter, Yale (Sr., RB – Syracuse, N.Y.)
Ryder Stone, Dartmouth (Sr., RB – Calgary, Alberta, Canada)
Jakob Prall, Brown (So., WR – Tipp City, Ohio)
Justice Shelton-Mosley, Harvard (Jr., WR/RS – Sacramento, Calif.)
Ronald Smith II, Columbia (So., WR – St. Louis)
Graham Adaomitis, Princeton (Jr., TE – Ross Township, Pa.)
Stephen Johnston, Dartmouth (Sr., TE – Potomac, Md.)

Defense
Rocco Di Leo, Dartmouth (Sr., DL – Elmhurst, Ill.)
Kurt Holuba, Princeton (Sr., DL – Ho-Ho-Kus, N.J.)
Dominic Perkovic, Columbia (Sr., DL – Bloomfield Hills, Mich.)
Charlie Pontarelli, Dartmouth (Sr., DL – Glenview, Ill.)
Richie Ryan, Harvard (Jr., DT – Pittsburgh)
Jay Cammon, Jr., Penn (Jr., LB – Landover, Md.)
Colton Moskal, Penn (Sr., LB – Lake Zurich, Ill.)
Michael Murphy, Columbia (So., LB – Tampa, Fla.)
Colin Boit, Dartmouth (Jr., DB – Sammamish, Wash.)
Connor Coughlin, Brown (Sr., FS – Medford, N.Y.)
Malcolm Dixon, Yale (So., DB – Gardena, Calif.)
Jason Alessi, Yale (Sr., DB – Bloomfield Hills, Mich.)
David Jones, Cornell (So., DB – Sugar Land, Texas)
C.J. Wall, Princeton (Fr., DB – Plano, Texas)
DJ Woullard, Cornell (JR., DB – Fullerton, Calif.)

Special Teams
David Smith, Dartmouth (Sr., K – Montreal)
Hunter Kelley, Penn (Sr., P – Huntington Beach, Calif.)
Nickolas Null, Cornell (So., P – Bradenton, Fla.)
Will Allen, Columbia (Fr., DB/RS – Pembroke Pines, Fla.)

*-unanimous decision
^-second team expanded due to ties in the voting
 
Re: Cornell football 2017 - All-Ivy
Posted by: ugarte (---.dyn.optonline.net)
Date: November 21, 2017 10:10PM

Love that Nick Null was Second Team as PK and Honorable Mention as P. Also, good luck to Gesualdi; I hope he gets to see an NFL training camp.

 
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Re: Cornell football 2017
Posted by: Ken711 (---.washdc.fios.verizon.net)
Date: November 22, 2017 11:34AM

Cornell is playing at Delaware again in 2018. What kind of dumb scheduling is that. Chalk up another loss in that game.
 
Re: Cornell football 2017
Posted by: CU2007 (160.254.108.---)
Date: November 22, 2017 11:54AM

Ken711
Cornell is playing at Delaware again in 2018. What kind of dumb scheduling is that. Chalk up another loss in that game.

Aren't the schedules made years in advance? I honestly don't know about Cornell, but the big time schools have already announced games 20 years in the future. Syracuse and Notre Dame will be playing in 2038 FYI.
 
Re: Cornell football 2017
Posted by: ugarte (---.177.169.163.ipyx-102276-zyo.zip.zayo.com)
Date: November 22, 2017 12:04PM

CU2007
Ken711
Cornell is playing at Delaware again in 2018. What kind of dumb scheduling is that. Chalk up another loss in that game.

Aren't the schedules made years in advance? I honestly don't know about Cornell, but the big time schools have already announced games 20 years in the future. Syracuse and Notre Dame will be playing in 2038 FYI.
I think he means "scheduling a road and road series".

 
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Re: Cornell football 2017
Posted by: Ken711 (---.washdc.fios.verizon.net)
Date: November 22, 2017 02:33PM

ugarte
CU2007
Ken711
Cornell is playing at Delaware again in 2018. What kind of dumb scheduling is that. Chalk up another loss in that game.

Aren't the schedules made years in advance? I honestly don't know about Cornell, but the big time schools have already announced games 20 years in the future. Syracuse and Notre Dame will be playing in 2038 FYI.
I think he means "scheduling a road and road series".

Exactly, against an opponent that cruised over Cornell this year.
 
Re: Cornell football 2017
Posted by: marty (---.nycap.res.rr.com)
Date: November 23, 2017 01:43PM

CU2007
Ken711
Cornell is playing at Delaware again in 2018. What kind of dumb scheduling is that. Chalk up another loss in that game.

Aren't the schedules made years in advance? I honestly don't know about Cornell, but the big time schools have already announced games 20 years in the future. Syracuse and Notre Dame will be playing in 2038 FYI.

I hope I'll be around. I hope I'll still enjoy watching hockey. I don't hate ND and Syracuse (nor BU and that team that sucks) as much as I did back in 74. I hope I can still remember hating them in 38.
 
Re: Cornell football 2017 - Cornell coach
Posted by: billhoward (---.nwrk.east.verizon.net)
Date: December 17, 2017 08:28PM

For all the displeasure expressed here with the football coach, there has been no parting of ways with Jeff Archer. Usually that happens as soon as the season ends. So, to paraphrase Richard Nixon, we'll have Jeff David Archer to kick around some more.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 12/18/2017 10:32AM by billhoward.
 
Re: Cornell football 2017 - Cornell coach
Posted by: Al DeFlorio (72.2.239.---)
Date: December 18, 2017 06:47AM

billhoward
For all the displeasure expressed here with the football coach, there has been no parting of ways with Jeff Archer. Usually that happens as soon as the season ends. So, to paraphrase Richard Nixon, we'll have Jeff Archer to kick around some more.
Maybe he'll do better as Jeff than he did as David.bolt

 
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Re: Cornell football 2017 - Cornell coach
Posted by: billhoward (---.nwrk.east.verizon.net)
Date: December 18, 2017 10:33AM

Perhaps take up writing novels
 
Re: Cornell football 2017 - Cornell coach
Posted by: Ken711 (---.washdc.fios.verizon.net)
Date: December 18, 2017 06:47PM

Al DeFlorio
billhoward
For all the displeasure expressed here with the football coach, there has been no parting of ways with Jeff Archer. Usually that happens as soon as the season ends. So, to paraphrase Richard Nixon, we'll have Jeff Archer to kick around some more.
Maybe he'll do better as Jeff than he did as David.bolt

It's a low bar that you need to meet to be the Cornell head football coach. Let's see what next season brings. Can they win at least 4 Ivy games next season to show progress? We'll see, I have my doubts.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 12/18/2017 06:47PM by Ken711.
 
Re: Cornell football 2017
Posted by: Ken711 (---.washdc.fios.verizon.net)
Date: February 12, 2018 07:02PM

ITHACA, N.Y. – David Archer '05, the Roger J. Weiss '61 Head Coach of Cornell Football, has signed a contract extension with additional performance-based incentives to remain at his alma mater.

"I am enthusiastic that Coach Archer will continue to lead our football program into the future," said Andy Noel, the Meakem*Smith Director of Athletics and Physical Education. "David's plan to rebuild our Big Red football from the ground up has gained momentum with Ivy wins this past season over Harvard, Brown and Princeton. He has my full support."

"Coach Archer's tenure has embodied the values of Cornell and the Ivy League by promoting a holistic student-athlete experience. I am pleased at the progress that is being made on the field as well as the positive culture that he has established in the program and among the student-athletes" said Vice President for Student & Campus Life Ryan Lombardi. "I am pleased that David will continue to lead our program and build upon the progress that has been made."

Archer has shown significant progress in improving the Big Red's Ivy League record each of the past three seasons, with an upward trajectory that has methodically improved the program. In the process, Archer and his staff have developed 30 All-Ivy selections, two Ivy League Rookies of the Year, three Academic All-Americans and four FCS All-Americans in his five seasons.

In 2016, Cornell earned its first top 25 win since 2007 and first road victory over a ranked team in 66 seasons when it defeated No. 25 Colgate. The team's three Ivy wins in 2017 were the most since 2011 and tied for the best Ivy record in more than a decade. The Big Red defeated both Ivy League preseason co-favorites, Princeton and Harvard, defeating the Crimson for the first time in 12 years. The Big Red's non-conference schedule (Delaware, Patriot League co-champ Colgate and Bucknell) also proved to be the most challenging in the conference, with those three teams posting a 19-14 record. The 2018 season will open at the University of Delaware on September 15.

 
Re: Cornell football 2017
Posted by: CAS (---.hsd1.nj.comcast.net)
Date: February 12, 2018 08:00PM

The Daily Sun story on the extension adds that Archer is 12-38 overall, & his 3-7 record last year is the same record as Archer’s first season.
 
Re: Cornell football 2017
Posted by: Ken711 (---.washdc.fios.verizon.net)
Date: February 12, 2018 10:00PM

CAS
The Daily Sun story on the extension adds that Archer is 12-38 overall, & his 3-7 record last year is the same record as Archer’s first season.

We'll see how well this extension plays if Cornell can't win more than 3 Ivy games next season. I don't think they care about non-league games.
 
Re: Cornell football 2017
Posted by: billhoward (---.nwrk.east.verizon.net)
Date: February 13, 2018 11:25AM

Both Cornell's release and the Sun's story don't say how long the extension is for. Not sure how healthy a contract extension is if it's just for one year. But Cornell is on record saying there has been upward trajectory and believes it can continue. Not easy to write a fulfilling press release when the 5-year record is 12-38. Let's hope for better times.

On this forum I have heard posts that say Archer is disliked and others say he's liked. I talked to a couple of parents of the broad football family and they say Archer is generally well-regarded by the players. That is good.
 
Re: Cornell football 2017
Posted by: Ken711 (---.washdc.fios.verizon.net)
Date: February 13, 2018 01:37PM

billhoward
Both Cornell's release and the Sun's story don't say how long the extension is for. Not sure how healthy a contract extension is if it's just for one year. But Cornell is on record saying there has been upward trajectory and believes it can continue. Not easy to write a fulfilling press release when the 5-year record is 12-38. Let's hope for better times.

On this forum I have heard posts that say Archer is disliked and others say he's liked. I talked to a couple of parents of the broad football family and they say Archer is generally well-regarded by the players. That is good.

Bill I think you are spot on. Archer is well liked by the players and the AD. However, if this program can't improve the Ivy wins is that acceptable by the Cornell administration? We will see if CONTINUED improvement occurs this season. All his recruits are now full entrenched in starting positions, so how much time does he need to at the very least produce a winning record in the Ivy League, I'm not even talking about winning the championship,
 
Re: Cornell football 2017
Posted by: margolism (66.171.38.---)
Date: February 14, 2018 01:34PM

Cornell was in control of its destiny this past season after wins against Harvard and Princeton.

If it weren’t for injuries sustained by key offensive players the record may have been stronger and more indicative of sustained improvement.
 
Re: Cornell football 2017
Posted by: CAS (---.hsd1.nj.comcast.net)
Date: June 03, 2018 07:26AM

Dartmouth just got a QB transferring from the University of Florida, who was ranked the 23rd top pro style QB in his HS class. He is immediately eligible to play. Why does Cornell football never get any impact transfers, despite the university enrolling many transfers students?
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Re: Cornell football 2017
Posted by: scoop85 (---.hvc.res.rr.com)
Date: June 03, 2018 11:03AM

CAS
Dartmouth just got a QB transferring from the University of Florida, who was ranked the 23rd top pro style QB in his HS class. He is immediately eligible to play. Why does Cornell football never get any impact transfers, despite the university enrolling many transfers students?

A few years ago we did get a QB transfer from Cal who was highly regarded out of HS, but IIRC he primarily ran the wildcat.
 
Re: Cornell football 2017
Posted by: Ken711 (---.washdc.fios.verizon.net)
Date: June 03, 2018 03:03PM

CAS
Dartmouth just got a QB transferring from the University of Florida, who was ranked the 23rd top pro style QB in his HS class. He is immediately eligible to play. Why does Cornell football never get any impact transfers, despite the university enrolling many transfers students?

Penn and Harvard have had huge success with transfers.
 
Re: Cornell football 2017
Posted by: Al DeFlorio (---.hsd1.ma.comcast.net)
Date: June 03, 2018 04:06PM

Ken711
CAS
Dartmouth just got a QB transferring from the University of Florida, who was ranked the 23rd top pro style QB in his HS class. He is immediately eligible to play. Why does Cornell football never get any impact transfers, despite the university enrolling many transfers students?

Penn and Harvard have had huge success with transfers.
Yale, too.

 
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