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Men's Basketball (2017-2018)

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Men's Basketball (2017-2018)
Posted by: Swampy (---.ri.ri.cox.net)
Date: May 27, 2017 07:52AM

It's time to start a "Men's Basketball (2017-2018)" thread.

Incoming recruits.
 
Re: Men's Basketball (2017-2018)
Posted by: mountainred (69.43.54.---)
Date: May 30, 2017 11:00AM

It's an interesting class. All of the six could be useful contributors, though the odds are that it won't "click" at the D1 level for at least one. Julian, Kuhn, and Voss could help with rebounding; Boeheim and Knapp look like potential 3pt snipers (though Knapp may need a year to get up to speed the same way Eitan did); and McBride was a combo guard at a high level in high school ball.

The downside is that there is nobody who looks like a potential All-Ivy player, which probably puts our class as no better than 6th in the league along with Brown and Dartmouth. Here's hoping Coach Earl has found some guys who fit in his system.
 
Re: Men's Basketball (2017-2018)
Posted by: billhoward (---.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net)
Date: May 30, 2017 02:52PM

The way the release is written, everybody sounds fabulous. We could start five newcomers and win the Ivy tournament.
 
Re: Men's Basketball (2017-2018)
Posted by: Swampy (---.ri.ri.cox.net)
Date: June 02, 2017 11:10PM

mountainred
It's an interesting class. All of the six could be useful contributors, though the odds are that it won't "click" at the D1 level for at least one. Julian, Kuhn, and Voss could help with rebounding; Boeheim and Knapp look like potential 3pt snipers (though Knapp may need a year to get up to speed the same way Eitan did); and McBride was a combo guard at a high level in high school ball.

The downside is that there is nobody who looks like a potential All-Ivy player, which probably puts our class as no better than 6th in the league along with Brown and Dartmouth. Here's hoping Coach Earl has found some guys who fit in his system.

McBride could be a sleeper. He played very respectably on a top-tier team loaded with talent. His respectable-but-not-breathtaking numbers probably reflect the overall quality of his teammates. Obviously college will be more challenging than high school, but after he acclimates he could surprise.

Also, I'd choose balance over having a single all-star. We'll just have to see how this group stacks up as a group. Did you make a comparison against the recruiting classes of the other five teams, or are you just guessing they've all recruited at least one potential All-Ivy?
 
Re: Men's Basketball (2017-2018)
Posted by: mountainred (50.106.176.---)
Date: June 04, 2017 05:30PM

Swampy
mountainred
It's an interesting class. All of the six could be useful contributors, though the odds are that it won't "click" at the D1 level for at least one. Julian, Kuhn, and Voss could help with rebounding; Boeheim and Knapp look like potential 3pt snipers (though Knapp may need a year to get up to speed the same way Eitan did); and McBride was a combo guard at a high level in high school ball.

The downside is that there is nobody who looks like a potential All-Ivy player, which probably puts our class as no better than 6th in the league along with Brown and Dartmouth. Here's hoping Coach Earl has found some guys who fit in his system.

McBride could be a sleeper. He played very respectably on a top-tier team loaded with talent. His respectable-but-not-breathtaking numbers probably reflect the overall quality of his teammates. Obviously college will be more challenging than high school, but after he acclimates he could surprise.

Also, I'd choose balance over having a single all-star. We'll just have to see how this group stacks up as a group. Did you make a comparison against the recruiting classes of the other five teams, or are you just guessing they've all recruited at least one potential All-Ivy?

I hope you are right on McBride. He was the 5th option on a team where his teammates are headed to UCLA, Ariz. St., San Diego St., plus maybe the top recruit in the country next year. I have no doubt he's talented, but is he a stud on a team of max-level studs, or a good player who is picking up stats because he isn't a focus and gets matched up with the other team's worst starter? Here is the ESPN bottom line: "McBride is a solid looking prospect and if he continues to work on his all around skill set and savvy, he should be able to play at the next level."

As far as the the other Ivies, I have a decent idea of who is going where, though I am not claiming to be a scout. Columbia has the top-ranked recruit in PF/C Jaron Faulds; he is a four star recruit according to ESPN. Princeton has a pair of ESPN three stars (Sebastian Much and Jerome Desrosiers) and a two star. Penn has a three star in Jelani Williams and a two star. Harvard has a three star and a two star, plus a kid from Canada who is said to be very good. Yale has a two star guard, Dartmouth a pair of two star players, and Brown a two star forward. In retrospect, I may have oversold the Elis, but James Jones normally gets the max out of his team.

Meanwhile, McBride is Cornell's highest rated recruit where he is one of the four guys ESPN gives one star (not Voss or Julian). Stars aren't everything (ESPN had Galal Cancer as a two star recruit and Shonn Miller as just a one), but they are an impartial, if subjective, way to measure recruiting classes. And in hoops, I would rather have one difference-maker, such as Shonn Miller, than four solid players, though Coach Earl may disagree.
 
Re: Men's Basketball (2017-2018)
Posted by: scoop85 (---.hvc.res.rr.com)
Date: June 06, 2017 09:24PM

Just saw on Twitter that David Onourah will play next year as a grad student at UConn. Nice opportunity for him to use his athleticism to add defense and rebounding in what I assume will be a reserve role.
 
Re: Men's Basketball (2017-2018)
Posted by: mountainred (69.43.54.---)
Date: June 07, 2017 02:37PM

scoop85
Just saw on Twitter that David Onourah will play next year as a grad student at UConn. Nice opportunity for him to use his athleticism to add defense and rebounding in what I assume will be a reserve role.

Thanks Scoop. I was hoping -- without good reason -- that he disappeared so he could save a year of eligibility for us. Can't fault him for having UConn pay for a year of grad school.
 
Re: Men's Basketball (2017-2018)
Posted by: billhoward (---.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net)
Date: June 07, 2017 03:34PM

scoop85
Just saw on Twitter that David Onourah will play next year as a grad student at UConn. Nice opportunity for him to use his athleticism to add defense and rebounding in what I assume will be a reserve role.
Reserves count toward the team GPA as much as the starting five. More, in some ways.
 
Re: Men's Basketball (2017-2018)
Posted by: rss77 (---.twcny.rr.com)
Date: June 14, 2017 10:14PM

Not sure what UConn sees in Onourah. He was not a good player at the Ivy League level and really did not evolve as a player during his time at Cornell. Wish him well though
 
Re: Men's Basketball (2017-2018)
Posted by: mountainred (69.43.54.---)
Date: June 15, 2017 11:29AM

rss77
Not sure what UConn sees in Onourah. He was not a good player at the Ivy League level and really did not evolve as a player during his time at Cornell. Wish him well though

David was always a decent rebounder and shot blocker, even if his offensive game never came around. UConn graduated all three of their starting front court players and doesn't have a lot of returning players. I bet David can give the Huskies some solid minutes off the bench, especially while their freshmen learn the game.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 06/16/2017 08:16PM by mountainred.
 
Re: Men's Basketball (2017-2018)
Posted by: ugarte (---.dyn.optonline.net)
Date: June 16, 2017 03:12PM

mountainred
rss77
Not sure what UConn sees in Onourah. He was not a good player at the Ivy League level and really did not evolve as a player during his time at Cornell. Wish him well though

David was always a decent rebounder and shot blocker, even if his offensive game never came around. UConn graduated all three of their starting front court players and doesn't have a lot of returning players. I bet David can give the Huskies some solid minutes off the bench, especially while their freshman learn the game.
A good, smart defensive rotation player for a year is worth a roster spot.

 
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Re: Men's Basketball (2017-2018) 0-1 start
Posted by: billhoward (---.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net)
Date: June 19, 2017 12:01PM

Cornell opens the season on the road, against Syracuse. Cornell is 0-22 vs. the Orange at the Carrier Dome. Men's Basketball To Open The 2017-18 Season At Syracuse
 
Re: Men's Basketball (2017-2018)
Posted by: mountainred (69.43.54.---)
Date: October 20, 2017 09:12AM

Men's Hoops get their first commitment of the new season: 6-9 PF/C Kobe Dickson from Holcomb, Kansas. Kobe helped lead his team to a KS state title (mid-sized schools) last year, though it looks like he was the "defensive/rebounding forward" while a now-graduated teammate was the scoring forward. I like recruits who come from winning programs, especially in states that care deeply about basketball. On the other hand, it looks like Cornell was his only D1 offer, though he had interest from Air Force and D2 power Washburn. He should help fill a need, but the recruiting arms race in the Ivies is getting tougher (Princeton has a commitment from ESPN's #99 overall recruit, for instance).
 
Re: Men's Basketball (2017-2018)
Posted by: mountainred (69.43.54.---)
Date: October 24, 2017 01:30PM

KenPom has published their initial set of ratings. The model says 12-16, 6-8 which would be good for a tie with Columbia for 5th. Of course, Cornell has only scheduled 27 games -- KenPom lists a game at Nebraska/Omaha that isn't on the Cornell schedule.

Things can change, but every out of conference game is winnable except for @Syracuse and @Auburn. Okay, those are "winnable," but very unlikely.
 
Re: Men's Basketball (2017-2018)
Posted by: mountainred (69.43.54.---)
Date: November 05, 2017 10:51AM

Men's hoops beat SUNY-Cortland in a full exhibition game yesterday 96-70, which is encouraging considering two regulars (Stone Gettings, Troy Whitehead) didn't play. No broadcast that I can find, so my thoughts are all from the box score.

Matt Morgan against a D3 defense isn't fair. Matt had 25 points in 23 minutes (off the bench for some reason) on 75% shooting. The last Cornellian to average 20 points a game was Ken Bantum in '84-'85. Morgan could be the next.
Wil Bathurst looks to be the PG. He played the most minutes and put up a very solid line of 14P-7A-6R, with just two turnovers (plus a steal and a block). Assuming Stone and Troy aren't seriously hurt, Wil's play could decide if the Big Red gets to .500.
Josh Warren and Steven Julian both started the exhibition; Warren had 10P-5A, Julian 7P-7R. Julian will likely be the newcomer who makes the biggest impact.
Boeheim and Gordon were the other two starters. Neither had a great game, but both look to start the season in the rotation.
The remaining freshman all got double digit minutes. Kuhn had 10 points and a pair of offensive rebounds. Voss and Knapp hit all their shots. McBride had a pair assists. It will be interesting to see if any of the four can force his way into the rotation.

Overall, the Big Red shot well (62% and 50% from 3) and moved the ball well (21 assists on 37 FGs). Only 4 offensive rebounds against a D3 school is a worry, as were the 12 turnovers compared to just 2 steals. The season opens for real Friday at Syracuse. The first home game is Monday night vs. Bingo.
 
Re: Men's Basketball (2017-2018)
Posted by: ugarte (---.dyn.optonline.net)
Date: November 13, 2017 08:53PM

Cornell had their customary annual blowout loss to Syracuse to start the D-I season over the weekend but evened their record with a 94-84 win over Binghamton.

 
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Re: Men's Basketball (2017-2018)
Posted by: mountainred (50.110.63.---)
Date: November 13, 2017 09:14PM

The Big Red led by 18 with six minutes to go, but Bingo was stubborn. To their credit, the Big Red hit their free throws down the stretch (12 of 14) so the result was never really in doubt.

If Morgan stays healthy, he's going to have an insane stat line. He had 26 tonight with 8 rebounds. Gettings came off the bench for 16 and Steve Julian had 10 points and 11 rebounds.

Cornell will be the underdog at Colgate on Thursday, then a trio of tossups: @UMass-Lowell, home with Toledo and @Duquesne.

In other league news, Dartmouth's best player decided to quit the team the day before the season started. He'll graduate early and play two years somewhere else.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 11/13/2017 09:26PM by mountainred.
 
Re: Men's Basketball (2017-2018)
Posted by: scoop85 (---.hvc.res.rr.com)
Date: November 13, 2017 10:33PM

mountainred

In other league news, Dartmouth's best player decided to quit the team the day before the season started. He'll graduate early and play two years somewhere else.

Rather strange, especially considering that Boudreaux’s father (and possible both parents) are Dartmouth alumns.
 
Re: Men's Basketball (2017-2018)
Posted by: ugarte (---.dyn.optonline.net)
Date: November 14, 2017 12:28AM

scoop85
mountainred

In other league news, Dartmouth's best player decided to quit the team the day before the season started. He'll graduate early and play two years somewhere else.

Rather strange, especially considering that Boudreaux’s father (and possible both parents) are Dartmouth alumns.
Kinda feel like "played for a few years and got a degree" is all the parents need and now maybe the kid can get a scholarship for grad school.

 
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Re: Men's Basketball (2017-2018)
Posted by: semsox (---.hsd1.va.comcast.net)
Date: November 14, 2017 08:13AM

scoop85
mountainred

In other league news, Dartmouth's best player decided to quit the team the day before the season started. He'll graduate early and play two years somewhere else.

Rather strange, especially considering that Boudreaux’s father (and possible both parents) are Dartmouth alumns.

This can cut both ways if he was never really crazy about Dartmouth, but went out of a perceived obligation.
 
Re: Men's Basketball (2017-2018)
Posted by: mountainred (69.43.54.---)
Date: November 14, 2017 09:08AM

semsox
scoop85
mountainred

In other league news, Dartmouth's best player decided to quit the team the day before the season started. He'll graduate early and play two years somewhere else.

Rather strange, especially considering that Boudreaux’s father (and possible both parents) are Dartmouth alumns.

This can cut both ways if he was never really crazy about Dartmouth, but went out of a perceived obligation.

Both parents are grads and Evan's mother is on the Board of Trustees there. There had been rumblings he wasn't happy last season -- the coach who recruited Evan was fired before the season started -- but the timing is brutal.
 
Re: Men's Basketball (2017-2018)
Posted by: mountainred (184.13.127.---)
Date: November 16, 2017 08:52PM

'gate with a 72-61 win. The Big Red just couldn't shoot, 5-27 from behind the arc. Morgan gets 23 and is now in the all-time top 20 in scoring at Cornell.
 
Re: Men's Basketball (2017-2018)
Posted by: mountainred (69.43.54.---)
Date: November 19, 2017 03:04PM

Troubling loss at UMass-Lowell 98-78. 22 Cornell turnovers. 25 UML second chance points and 52 UML points in the paint. Ugh.
 
Re: Men's Basketball (2017-2018)
Posted by: scoop85 (---.hvc.res.rr.com)
Date: November 19, 2017 04:04PM

mountainred
Troubling loss at UMass-Lowell 98-78. 22 Cornell turnovers. 25 UML second chance points and 52 UML points in the paint. Ugh.

Yes, troubling is the right word. I would’ve thought we’d be improving, and I’m not sure we’re seeing that.
 
Re: Men's Basketball (2017-2018)
Posted by: Ken711 (---.washdc.fios.verizon.net)
Date: November 19, 2017 04:47PM

mountainred
Troubling loss at UMass-Lowell 98-78. 22 Cornell turnovers. 25 UML second chance points and 52 UML points in the paint. Ugh.

Earl needs to bring in a good sized center in his next recruiting class.
 
Re: Men's Basketball (2017-2018)
Posted by: mountainred (50.110.9.---)
Date: November 19, 2017 05:09PM

scoop85
mountainred
Troubling loss at UMass-Lowell 98-78. 22 Cornell turnovers. 25 UML second chance points and 52 UML points in the paint. Ugh.

Yes, troubling is the right word. I would’ve thought we’d be improving, and I’m not sure we’re seeing that.

I'm not either. Four games into year 2 is way too early to panic, but it is not too be early to be concerned. And I'm that.
 
Re: Men's Basketball (2017-2018)
Posted by: mountainred (69.43.54.---)
Date: November 24, 2017 05:50PM

Much, MUCH better effort. Cornell beats Toledo 80-77 at home. Sure, the Rockets cut a 21 point Cornell lead to 1, but this was supposed to be a tight one. The Big Red shot well (56%) and didn't turn the ball over too much (11). Toledo did get a dozen offensive rebounds.

Gettings is finally healthy enough to start. He finished with 21 points, 5 rebounds and 5 assists. He is clearly Cornell's second best player and the offense clicks better when he is on the floor. Warren was huge off the bench with 11 points (and at least 6 of the Big Red's points in the final 31-13 run by Toledo). Morgan led all scorers with 24.

Basically two good performances at home, three poor performances on the road. Unfortunately, Monday night is at Duquesne.
 
Re: Men's Basketball (2017-2018)
Posted by: ugarte (---.dyn.optonline.net)
Date: November 27, 2017 08:52PM

Watched the last two minutes of foul-o-rama as Duquesne cut the lead from 13 to 7 but Cornell wins on the road 78-71.

 
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Re: Men's Basketball (2017-2018)
Posted by: mountainred (50.110.9.---)
Date: November 27, 2017 09:02PM

ugarte
Watched the last two minutes of foul-o-rama as Duquesne cut the lead from 13 to 7 but Cornell wins on the road 78-71.
First road win of the year and frankly the first time they've looked good on the road.

It was a one point game midway through the second when Cornell went on an 11-0 run. The Dukes hit a couple of late threes, but were never really a threat the rest of the way. (Their announcer sorta gave up with more than 2 minutes left.)

Morgan with 24 points and 5 assists. Gettings had 19. Gordon and Warren had 10 each and Steve Julian had 8 points, 8 rebounds and 4 assists. Julian has been huge.

Maybe the UML game was a "darkest before dawn" kind of thing? The guys have looked vastly better in their last two games.
 
Re: Men's Basketball (2017-2018)
Posted by: billhoward (---.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net)
Date: November 28, 2017 12:52AM

CornellBigRed
• The wins over Toledo (80-77) and at Duquesne (78-71) represent the first winning streak under head coach Brian Earl.
"Winning streak" as in first time this year or last that Cornell has won even 2 games in a row? We are starting over.
 
Re: Men's Basketball (2017-2018)
Posted by: Swampy (---.ri.ri.cox.net)
Date: November 28, 2017 01:37AM

billhoward
CornellBigRed
• The wins over Toledo (80-77) and at Duquesne (78-71) represent the first winning streak under head coach Brian Earl.
"Winning streak" as in first time this year or last that Cornell has won even 2 games in a row? We are starting over.

Dukes were picked to finish last in the A10. So don't buy your tickets to San Antonio just yet.
 
Re: Men's Basketball (2017-2018)
Posted by: mountainred (50.110.9.---)
Date: November 28, 2017 08:16AM

Swampy
billhoward
CornellBigRed
• The wins over Toledo (80-77) and at Duquesne (78-71) represent the first winning streak under head coach Brian Earl.
"Winning streak" as in first time this year or last that Cornell has won even 2 games in a row? We are starting over.

Dukes were picked to finish last in the A10. So don't buy your tickets to San Antonio just yet.
Man, tough crowd. Winning two in a row isn't cause for a celebration -- though it is vastly better than losing -- and the Dukes aren't anything special (last place in the A10 wouldn't surprise me). But road wins against an A10 team, even a bad one, aren't common events in basketball. Outside of the 2010 squad, there just aren't many out-of-conference road wins except when Cornell plays a bottom 50 team.

And, seriously, the second half last night was a really good half of basketball. After the UML debacle, I am thankful for it.
 
Re: Men's Basketball (2017-2018)
Posted by: scoop85 (---.nyc.biz.rr.com)
Date: November 28, 2017 09:05AM

The Duquesne coach's post-game press conference is remarkable. He throws his players under the bus, consistently makes excuses about how short-handed his team is and then of course says "I'm not making excuses". And in an almost 18 minute ramble he doesn't once give credit to his opponent.

Seems like a jackass.
 
Re: Men's Basketball (2017-2018)
Posted by: Swampy (---.163.128.131.dhcp.uri.edu)
Date: November 28, 2017 01:03PM

scoop85
The Duquesne coach's post-game press conference is remarkable. He throws his players under the bus, consistently makes excuses about how short-handed his team is and then of course says "I'm not making excuses". And in an almost 18 minute ramble he doesn't once give credit to his opponent.

Seems like a jackass.

Agree with you. Dambrot comes off like a douchebag. He was almost 5 minutes into the interview before he said the first good thing about anybody -- in this case one of his own players.

Around 13:00 he starts talking about playing zone and says he doesn't want to play zone when the team "gets better" (clearly he means when he has better recruits), so why do it now? It isn't until around 15:00 of the interview that Dambrot even takes any responsibility for his team's performance. There's so much wrong with this!

First of all, being able to switch between zone & m2m is a strength. It not only adds a weapon to your arsenal, but also it gives you the possibility to surprise the other team, can force the other team to substitute at a disadvantage, and gives you a chance to see what works best.

But even more important is that really good coaches design their strategies around the players they have, not the players they wish they had. Take Bill Belichick. True, he cheats. But he also finds way to win with the players he has. When Drew Bledsoe went down did Bill whine about his starting quarterback being knocked out? No! He went to his bench and put in a sixth-round draft pick. Even though the team lost that game, during the next week of practice Coach Belichick tweaked the offense around the backup quaterback's limited capabilities, and guess what! The next week they beat the Baltimore Colts 44-13, making the most out of a bad situation and making do the rest of the season with only the backup.

Another characteristic of a good coach is to emphasize process over W's & L's. A good coach helps even the worst player get better. (I know: I was that player under two very different coaches.) Especially at the college level, a good coach emphasizes improvement in both individual and team performance. In contrast, Dambrot seems to wish he could say out loud what he's really thinking: "These guys suck, and I can't wait until next year when I bring in some recruits to replace them."

A good contrast to Dambrot is Dan Hurley, whose URI team is picked to finish first in the A10. Last Friday, playing without two injured starters, including the team's best player, URI lost to Virginia in a manner very similar to how the Dukes lost to Cornell. But in the postgame, Coach Hurley always refers to "we/us" for himself and his team, rather than "them" (for his players) and "me/I" for himself as Dambrot does. He says "we" missed opportunities, became demoralized, and gave in mentally and physically. But then he also praises Virginia, and he finishes by saying he hopes "we" learn from this.

Maybe there's a reason for the correlation between the preseason predictions and the coaches' respective styles.
 
Re: Men's Basketball (2017-2018)
Posted by: mountainred (69.43.54.---)
Date: November 28, 2017 01:30PM

Swampy
scoop85
The Duquesne coach's post-game press conference is remarkable. He throws his players under the bus, consistently makes excuses about how short-handed his team is and then of course says "I'm not making excuses". And in an almost 18 minute ramble he doesn't once give credit to his opponent.

Seems like a jackass.

Agree with you. Dambrot comes off like a douchebag. He was almost 5 minutes into the interview before he said the first good thing about anybody -- in this case one of his own players.
You made it through far more than I could.

Dambrot is an interesting guy. He was LeBron's high school coach, is the winningest coach in Akron history, and was fired for telling his players at CMU to act like {word that gets you fired} on the court, but not the classroom (though he says he asked his team if he could use the word first and they said he could). [www.cleveland.com] . His record says he's a good coach. My guess is that he's not dealing well with having a bad team for the first time in a long while.
 
Re: Men's Basketball (2017-2018)
Posted by: billhoward (---.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net)
Date: November 28, 2017 01:33PM

Cornell basketball coach from an earlier era told me and WVBR's sports guy at a very liquid lunch, "You can't make chicken salad out of chickenshit." The team would go on to finish sub-.250.
 
Re: Men's Basketball (2017-2018)
Posted by: ugarte (---.177.169.163.ipyx-102276-zyo.zip.zayo.com)
Date: November 28, 2017 02:56PM

mountainred
... was fired for telling his players at CMU to act like {word that gets you fired} on the court, but not the classroom (though he says he asked his team if he could use the word first and they said he could) ...
"Can I use the n-word?"
"Yeah coach, we trust you."
"OK, listen guys don't be a bunch of ..."
*stony silence* *someone texts the AD*

 
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Re: Men's Basketball (2017-2018)
Posted by: mountainred (69.43.54.---)
Date: December 02, 2017 05:46PM

Pretty bleh way to go into the break, losing to Northeastern 84-66. The first half was fine; lots of lead changes and the Big Red trailed by just 3. The second half was brutal. The turnover bug came back with 22.

Northeastern just beat Harvard by 16, so I guess this isn't the end of the world. But the second half was tough to watch.
 
Re: Men's Basketball (2017-2018)
Posted by: ugarte (---.dyn.optonline.net)
Date: December 02, 2017 07:45PM

I think our team is either out of shape (in the sense of "the shape required to play Division I basketball," not compared to, say, me) or does not pace itself well. We typically have excellent (or at least competitive) first halves and then either hang on for dear life in the second or turn a close game into a blowout loss.

 
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Re: Men's Basketball (2017-2018)
Posted by: mountainred (69.43.54.---)
Date: December 03, 2017 11:11AM

It may be a fitness issue (though the second half at Duquesne was their best half), but I think the biggest issue is that they play consistently poor defense. That puts pressure on the offense to keep up for forty minutes and, all too often, they crack. The Big Red isn't beating anyone with 20+ turnovers.

3-4 is about right for these guys. They were never beating Syracuse and yesterday was a reach. Bingo was supposed to be a win and it was. The other four were toss-ups ('gate maybe a likely loss), and the guys went 2-2. The rest of the way, they should beat Longwood, Lafayette, and the D3 and should lose at Auburn and Delaware. Niagara at home is a toss-up which could decide if they finish over or under .500 before league play.

In the league, they should finish ahead of Dartmouth and Brown. H,Y, P and Penn are all better. Columbia may be 1-6, but they have yet to play at home and have been more competitive against better teams (i.e. losing to 'nova by just 15 and losing to UConn in OT). The smart money is on 6th place.
 
Re: Men's Basketball (2017-2018)
Posted by: Trotsky (---.washdc.fios.verizon.net)
Date: December 03, 2017 04:00PM

2010 means never having to say you're sorry.
 
Re: Men's Basketball (2017-2018) - coaching carousel
Posted by: billhoward (---.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net)
Date: December 09, 2017 03:53PM

Steve Donahue set the atmosphere that made this possible, maybe.
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Re: Men's Basketball (2017-2018)
Posted by: ugarte (---.dyn.optonline.net)
Date: December 16, 2017 05:56PM

Cornell travels to *Googles location* *double checks because come on* *confirms* Farmville and beats Longwood 79-72.

 
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Re: Men's Basketball (2017-2018)
Posted by: scoop85 (---.hvc.res.rr.com)
Date: December 16, 2017 10:53PM

ugarte
Cornell travels to *Googles location* *double checks because come on* *confirms* Farmville and beats Longwood 79-72.

Not a stellar performance, but good enough to beat Longwood (ranked 351st out of 351 D1 teams by Sagarin) on the road. Bathurst was out with some type of injury apparently.
 

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