Andy Noel's contract extended 6 six years

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That should be enough time to build the indoor practice facility and West Stands at Schoellkopf I hope.

Ken711
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That should be enough time to build the indoor practice facility and West Stands at Schoellkopf I hope.

... to support the wrestling program.

Chris '03

Ken711
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That should be enough time to build the indoor practice facility and West Stands at Schoellkopf I hope.

... to support the wrestling program.

To be fair, they and polo are the only ones bringing home NCAA championships...

Polo's not an NCAA-sanctioned championship, it's sponsored directly by the USPA.

Trotsky

Chris '03

Ken711
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That should be enough time to build the indoor practice facility and West Stands at Schoellkopf I hope.

... to support the wrestling program.

To be fair, they and polo are the only ones bringing home NCAA championships...

Hold up right there. That just supports the comment. What a tidy piece of evidence that one program is favored. Why do you think CU Wrestling is the only program bringing home titles?? 18-years of direct extraordinary support from the guy at the top goes a long way. Maybe if OTHER programs had such custodianship... But hey, raise ticket prices more at Lynah and maybe the extremely necessary Friedman Center can have an expansion or something.

RichH

Trotsky

Chris '03

Ken711
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That should be enough time to build the indoor practice facility and West Stands at Schoellkopf I hope.

... to support the wrestling program.

To be fair, they and polo are the only ones bringing home NCAA championships...

Hold up right there. That just supports the comment. What a tidy piece of evidence that one program is favored. Why do you think CU Wrestling is the only program bringing home titles?? 18-years of direct extraordinary support from the guy at the top goes a long way. ...

Some of this is Andy but a lot of it is a Cornell wrestling alum who also happens to be a hedge fund billionaire. We have an elite coach - a former NCAA and world champ who is also a mensch - who gets to use a top-of-the-line standalone wrestling training facility in his pitch.

Tell Sancimino or Hynes or Hilbrich or whoever to go to Wall Street and send the money back to Lynah or something.

If a new building is what makes wrestling so good, maybe it's time for a Lynah II fund.

Part of what ails hockey (and lacrosse) is the expansion of D1 teams, and the long-term schools taking the sport more seriouisly. At some point we're going to play and lose to Arizona State. UNH and RPI already have. ASU has an optimistic late-March, early April calendar:

It appears the Cornell administration didn't consider the poor performance over many years of some of our higher profile teams (such as football & basketball), or the inadequate state of some of our facilities (football), or the overpricing of tickets for hockey (single-game ticket prices raised this year).

ugarte
Tell Sancimino or Hynes or Hilbrich or whoever to go to Wall Street and send the money back to Lynah or something.

Maybe they're on Canadian Wall Street! Young Street? I dunno.

I'm not sure I'd invest with the Sancimino Hedge Fund.

(Who am I kidding? OF COURSE I would! )

ugarte

RichH

Trotsky

Chris '03

Ken711
[cornellbigred.com]

That should be enough time to build the indoor practice facility and West Stands at Schoellkopf I hope.

... to support the wrestling program.

To be fair, they and polo are the only ones bringing home NCAA championships...

Hold up right there. That just supports the comment. What a tidy piece of evidence that one program is favored. Why do you think CU Wrestling is the only program bringing home titles?? 18-years of direct extraordinary support from the guy at the top goes a long way. ...

Some of this is Andy but a lot of it is a Cornell wrestling alum who also happens to be a hedge fund billionaire. We have an elite coach - a former NCAA and world champ who is also a mensch - who gets to use a top-of-the-line standalone wrestling training facility in his pitch.

Tell Sancimino or Hynes or Hilbrich or whoever to go to Wall Street and send the money back to Lynah or something.

I'm telling you, the key to getting an upgrade for your sport is having an athlete-alum strike it rich.

ugarte
I'm telling you, the key to getting an upgrade for your sport is having an athlete-alum strike it rich.

I dunno. If you go out for crew, or polo, or alpine skiing, or fencing (sorry, Robb), you more than likely spent your formative years at Philips, Choate or Deerfield and you don't exactly have to strike it rich -- more likely just fall into a combination of inheritance and/or NY Times Nuptials (a.k.a., "Mergers & Acquisitions" ) .

Trotsky

ugarte
Tell Sancimino or Hynes or Hilbrich or whoever to go to Wall Street and send the money back to Lynah or something.

Maybe they're on Canadian Wall Street! Young Street? I dunno.

I'm not sure I'd invest with the Sancimino Hedge Fund.

(Who am I kidding? OF COURSE I would! )

Maybe Catherine White?

Trotsky
I dunno. If you go out for crew, or polo, or alpine skiing, or fencing (sorry, Robb), you more than likely spent your formative years at Philips, Choate or Deerfield and you don't exactly have to strike it rich -- more likely just fall into a combination of inheritance and/or NY Times Nuptials (a.k.a., "Mergers & Acquisitions" ) .

Ahem, that would be Phillips with a double l my good man

In all seriousness though, there are a large number of varsity sports at Cornell that are self funded. Lightweight rowing being a prime example of a team that is self funded and also competitive.

cu155

Trotsky
I dunno. If you go out for crew, or polo, or alpine skiing, or fencing (sorry, Robb), you more than likely spent your formative years at Philips, Choate or Deerfield and you don't exactly have to strike it rich -- more likely just fall into a combination of inheritance and/or NY Times Nuptials (a.k.a., "Mergers & Acquisitions" ) .

Ahem, that would be Phillips with a double l my good man

There are two of them (Andover and the other one, Exeter maybe?). Are they both "double l"? Do they both trace back to the same esteemed founder?

Ken711
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That should be enough time to build the indoor practice facility and West Stands at Schoellkopf I hope.

I'm holding out for a 5,000-seat domed stadium. Leapfrog Harvard, Penn, Princeton with their seasonal bubbles covering the turf part of their stadiums. Five thousand would be enough for every soccer, sprint football or lacrosse match that isn't an NCAA regional.

billhoward

Ken711
http://cornellbigred.com/news/2016/11/30/general-andy-noel-to-lead-the-big-red-for-six-more-years.aspx
That should be enough time to build the indoor practice facility and West Stands at Schoellkopf I hope.

I'm holding out for a 5,000-seat domed stadium. Leapfrog Harvard, Penn, Princeton with their seasonal bubbles covering the turf part of their stadiums. Five thousand would be enough for every soccer, sprint football or lacrosse match that isn't an NCAA regional.

Think they are focused on an indoor practice facility without seating.

Trotsky

ugarte
I'm telling you, the key to getting an upgrade for your sport is having an athlete-alum strike it rich.

I dunno. If you go out for crew...

My impression of crew from friends on the team is that a lot of college rowers are athletes who topped out in high school in their primary sport looking for something new to compete in. Seems right for polo and fencing though.

ugarte
I'm telling you, the key to getting an upgrade for your sport is having an athlete-alum strike it rich.

I'll start small: how about using some of the extra money from the Lynah ticket price hikes to restoring the hockey team's admin assistant position?

ugarte
My impression of crew from friends on the team is that a lot of college rowers are athletes who topped out in high school in their primary sport looking for something new to compete in. Seems right for polo and fencing though.

Back in the day, legend has it that 6'6" coach Stork Sanford would roam Barton Hall during registration to find athletic men he could look in the eye. He never recruited off campus and few of his rowers had prior experience. Things have changed - now most rowers are recruited and have either prep or high school experience. For example, in addition to the two parochial high school crews here in Rochester, three school districts have crew programs nominally affiliated with them. I think that more durable and cheaper carbon fiber shells make this possible. Olympians Meghan Musnicki (IC) and Henrik Rummel (sucks) got their starts here

Trotsky

cu155

Trotsky
I dunno. If you go out for crew, or polo, or alpine skiing, or fencing (sorry, Robb), you more than likely spent your formative years at Philips, Choate or Deerfield and you don't exactly have to strike it rich -- more likely just fall into a combination of inheritance and/or NY Times Nuptials (a.k.a., "Mergers & Acquisitions" ) .

Ahem, that would be Phillips with a double l my good man

There are two of them (Andover and the other one, Exeter maybe?). Are they both "double l"? Do they both trace back to the same esteemed founder?

At the risk of getting strung up by the ^ proletariat, yes both Phillips Exeter and Phillips Andover are double ll. There is a family connection as both were founded in the late 1700s by a newphew (Andover) and uncle (Exeter).

Boarding schools get a bad rap, but I have to say my experience at Exeter was overwhelmingly positive. The school has a massive endowment that it uses to help fund plenty of smart students who aren't flying to soccer games in a private helicopter. That said I'd never send one of my future children unless they wanted to go and were mature enough to handle it as the work load was far beyond anything I ever had to deal with at Cornell or in grad school.

Besides how else would I have learned to only wear seersucker between memorial day and labor day?

George64

ugarte
My impression of crew from friends on the team is that a lot of college rowers are athletes who topped out in high school in their primary sport looking for something new to compete in. Seems right for polo and fencing though.

Back in the day, legend has it that 6'6" coach Stork Sanford would roam Barton Hall during registration to find athletic men he could look in the eye. He never recruited off campus and few of his rowers had prior experience. Things have changed - now most rowers are recruited and have either prep or high school experience. For example, in addition to the two parochial high school crews here in Rochester, three school districts have crew programs nominally affiliated with them. I think that more durable and cheaper carbon fiber shells make this possible. Olympians Meghan Musnicki (IC) and Henrik Rummel (sucks) got their starts here

It wasn't legend, but fact that they roamed Barton. When I was a freshman the lightweight crew members tried to get me to go out for their team. I didn't highlight athletic men, as no one would consider me as athletic. The most I've ever done was long distance running for pleasure. However they certainly worked the registration lines.

Jim Hyla
...no one would consider me as athletic. The most I've ever done was long distance running for pleasure.

What is this "long distance running for pleasure" you speak of?

Those of us from Ned's lacrosse teams never thought of it in those terms.

RichH

ugarte
I'm telling you, the key to getting an upgrade for your sport is having an athlete-alum strike it rich.

I'll start small: how about using some of the extra money from the Lynah ticket price hikes to restoring the hockey team's admin assistant position?

Hey Rich! Sue Detzer called....and she said..."THANKS!"

Jim Hyla
It wasn't legend, but fact that they roamed Barton. When I was a freshman the lightweight crew members tried to get me to go out for their team. I didn't highlight athletic men, as no one would consider me as athletic. The most I've ever done was long distance running for pleasure. However they certainly worked the registration lines.

Still went on in my day.

I'm 6'3". Standing in a line at some point during orientation, a crew member sidled up to me and said, "Have you thought about joining crew?"

I said, "I'm going to be in the marching band."

"Yeah, you don't have time," said he.

No worries - coming out of a public high school in East Tennessee, I don't think there's much risk of being lumped in with that lot!

Scersk '97

Jim Hyla
It wasn't legend, but fact that they roamed Barton. When I was a freshman the lightweight crew members tried to get me to go out for their team. I didn't highlight athletic men, as no one would consider me as athletic. The most I've ever done was long distance running for pleasure. However they certainly worked the registration lines.

Still went on in my day.

I'm 6'3". Standing in a line at some point during orientation, a crew member sidled up to me and said, "Have you thought about joining crew?"

I said, "I'm going to be in the marching band."

"Yeah, you don't have time," said he.

I can attest that in the mid-2000s, Women's Rowing coaches were using the Swim Test to scout athletic bodies to recruit.

Add Columbia to the list of Ivy schools that will have an indoor practice facility. Cornell has to get going on this to compete in recruiting.

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