Cornell lacrosse 2017

scoop85
Knight playing great. Petterson missed a wide-open look that would've given us our 8th goal. The play-by-play and color guys don't shut up and are annoying the hell out of me

The color guy sounds halfway competent. The PbP guy is a clown who must have won some "be a sports announcer" silent auction at sportscenter camp.

RichH

scoop85
Knight playing great. Petterson missed a wide-open look that would've given us our 8th goal. The play-by-play and color guys don't shut up and are annoying the hell out of me

The color guy sounds halfway competent. The PbP guy is a clown who must have won some "be a sports announcer" silent auction at sportscenter camp.

One minute: Do you think the heat will be a factor tonight? These teams just aren't used to these temperatures. Yes. Dehydration will be a big issue.

Five minutes later: It's a beautiful 61 degrees tonight.

What?

And it's 11-11.

up 6-0 and 11-6 and now losing

upprdeck
up 6-0 and 11-6 and now losing

13-11 UVA after 3. Big difference was we got dominated at FO that quarter, and UVA's backup goalie made some point-blank saves while Knight lost his magic from the 1st half

i missed the six goal sprint at the beginning of the game but there hasn't been a second since i turned the game on that we didn't look like the second best team on the field.

14-14 now though..

Cornell up 17-15 with under 4:00 to go. I'm not watching because every time I log-on we fall apart, so for the benefit of the team I'll follow on twitter

cornell scores to make it 18-18 4 seconds remaining

abmarks
cornell scores to make it 18-18 4 seconds remaining

After Virginia scored with an extra man to take the lead with 13 seconds left!

bleh. sort of won the OT faceoff but our FOGO couldn't scoop the ground ball and virginia took possession when it went OOB. score on their second shot attempt.

how cornell manages to lose that game was killer..

he should have just slowed down and scooped it instead of trying to run around to get it.. need to play some D the offense finally looked decent.

upprdeck
how cornell manages to lose that game was killer..

Still, a much better result than anything else this season, a far better than anyone expected.

A team has to learn how to win, but before that a team has to learn how to play. This result gives a glimmer of hope that this team is doing the latter.

you can compete if you play this type of game. maybe the better weather helped. best game by far

I was there! A fantastic game, even if the Red could not hold on at the end. Much better performance that could be expected from the first 3 games. There is now some hope for this team to win a few games.

CU77
I was there! A fantastic game, even if the Red could not hold on at the end. Much better performance that could be expected from the first 3 games. There is now some hope for this team to win a few games.

Just as important we finally showed the caliber of young offensive talent on the team. Now just got to tighten up the defense!

scoop85

CU77
I was there! A fantastic game, even if the Red could not hold on at the end. Much better performance that could be expected from the first 3 games. There is now some hope for this team to win a few games.

Just as important we finally showed the caliber of young offensive talent on the team. Now just got to tighten up the defense!

We expected this from Teat in his first game. It took four to put up Pannell-like numbers. Fair enough.

Jeff Teat '20          5G 4A  9 Pts
Connor Fletcher '20    2G 3A  5 Pts
Clarke Petterson '19   4G 1A  5 Pts
Jordan Dowiak '18      5G 0A  5 Pts
(correcting class years)

If Cornell has no real chance of making the NCAAs, this loss doesn't matter other than to maybe make Cornell the best 0-4 time in D1 (losses to #3 Penn State, #8 Albany, #12 Virginia, and Hobart). But maybe this is a real turning point. We'll see Saturday at Yale (also receiving votes).

Cripe! BU is #15 and 6-0. D1 poll: [www.ncaa.com]

And Rutgers is up to #5 and also unbeaten. Why does Rutgers screw around with football and basketball. They've got a shot in lax. NYT says Rutgers is awash is so much red ink that $300 from each student activity fee goes to fund (partially) the varsity sports deficit. [www.nytimes.com]

billhoward

scoop85

CU77
I was there! A fantastic game, even if the Red could not hold on at the end. Much better performance that could be expected from the first 3 games. There is now some hope for this team to win a few games.

Just as important we finally showed the caliber of young offensive talent on the team. Now just got to tighten up the defense!

We expected this from Teat in his first game. It took four to put up Pannell-like numbers. Fair enough.

Jeff Teat '21          5G 4A  9 Pts
Connor Fletcher '21    2G 3A  5 Pts
Clarke Petterson '20   4G 1A  5 Pts
Jordan Dowiak '19      5G 0A  5 Pts

If Cornell has no real chance of making the NCAAs, this loss doesn't matter other than to maybe make Cornell the best 0-4 time in D1 (losses to #3 Penn State, #8 Albany, #12 Virginia, and Hobart). But maybe this is a real turning point. We'll see Saturday at Yale (also receiving votes).

First, are Teat and Fletcher in five year programs? If only they could play for five years.

Second, while the defense was non-existent, Saturday night's performance was night-and-day from the Albany game. Here's hoping it was a real turning point for the O.

if they can score like that against Uv they cn score on anyone. when they didnt throw it away they seemed to score.

scoop85

CU77
I was there! A fantastic game, even if the Red could not hold on at the end. Much better performance that could be expected from the first 3 games. There is now some hope for this team to win a few games.

Just as important we finally showed the caliber of young offensive talent on the team. Now just got to tighten up the defense!

Actually, UVa is the one that's got to tighten up the D. We gave up 19 goals to an acknowledged high power racehorse offense with a lot of scorers. THEY gave up 18 goals to...us.

From the Clarkson Hockey thread:

upprdeck:
not sure which is struggling more the hockey D breakout or the Lax D against the 10 man ride.

No question the Lax D is worse. And it shouldn't be that hard. Your upfield middies and attack work an over-and-back across the midfield line to pop someone open by using the offsides rule. There's always confusion among the riders as to who goes across, especially if you use some picks. You can also play some games sneaking in and out at the substitution boxes.

[www.cornellbigred.com] Jeff Teat is Ivy League rookie of the week for putting up 11 points (5G, 6A) vs. Virginia. (I thought it was originally recorded as 9 points.) Most points since Tim Goldstein had 11 in 1988. Which begs the question, how many points does Teat need to be player not rookie of the week?

From [www.ivyleague.com]

Freshman of the week:  Jeff Teat, Cornell        5G 6A - 11 points
Player of the week:    Austin Sims, Princeton    6G 1A -  6 points

So Teat gets, what, certificates for Shirley Temples in 2017?

So, yes...I'm happy for the kid.
But, might this scoring explosion lead to the elusive first win tomorrow??

yale is probably one of the best chances to win other than dartmouth/brown.

upprdeck
yale is probably one of the best chances to win other than dartmouth/brown.

OK, no. Yale wins, 17-8.

The Max Siebald, Rob Pannell days seem sooooo long ago.

mid 4th we were basically tied in shots while winning less than 30% of the draws. only the virg game did we seem to get the ball on goal

Worst Cornell defense I've ever seen Cornell play in lacrosse. Bring back Ben DeLuca!

Ken711
Worst Cornell defense I've ever seen Cornell play in lacrosse. Bring back Ben DeLuca!

Has he served his penalty minutes yet?!

Johnny 5

Ken711
Worst Cornell defense I've ever seen Cornell play in lacrosse. Bring back Ben DeLuca!

Has he served his penalty minutes yet?!

Probably not.

Ken711

Johnny 5

Ken711
Worst Cornell defense I've ever seen Cornell play in lacrosse. Bring back Ben DeLuca!

Has he served his penalty minutes yet?!

Probably not.

I think it was non-releasable.

Jeff Hopkins '82

Ken711

Johnny 5

Ken711
Worst Cornell defense I've ever seen Cornell play in lacrosse. Bring back Ben DeLuca!

Has he served his penalty minutes yet?!

Probably not.

I think it was non-releasable.

Now that he's the coach in waiting at Harvard with all their resources, why would he leave in all reality.

[www.ncaa.com] This week's top ten. Imagine this being possible 10 years ago. Or 5.

1 Rutgers
2 Notre Dame
3 Penn State
4 Ohio State
5 Hofstra
6 Syracuse
7 Denver
8 Army
9 Albany
10 Maryland

The first three Big Ten schools - Rutgers, Penn State, Ohio State -- are unbeaten. So is Hofstra. Also in the top 20 are Richmond and BU.

Princeton is 13, Penn & Yale are also-mention. Brown, which just missed making the title game last year, is nowhere to be seen.

Four NYS schools in the top ten: Hofstra, Syracsue, Army, Albany. Binghamton and Stony Brook get a mention.

Perhaps we can argue we are the nation's best 0-5 team.

Given we've been competitive in only one of the five games, having lost the other four by a minimum of 8 goals, can we claim we are the best 0-5 team?

CAS
Given we've been competitive in only one of the five games, having lost the other four by a minimum of 8 goals, can we claim we are the best 0-5 team?

How many other 0-5 teams are there?

Swampy

CAS
Given we've been competitive in only one of the five games, having lost the other four by a minimum of 8 goals, can we claim we are the best 0-5 team?

How many other 0-5 teams are there?

The thought is not original. Flash back to early 2013 (when Cornell was #2 in the polls):

LaxAllStars
0-5 Bryant is up next [vs. Albany], and they might be the best winless team in the nation. [laxallstars.com]

Bryant finished 8-11.

Finally, a dominating 15-6 win over Colgate. Teat with 3G 3A, Rupp and McCulloch with 3G, Knight very solid with 15 saves.

We'll see if they can build on this with a good but not invincible Penn team coming to Schoellkopf on Saturday.

This was a quality win, considering (considering how bad the first give games went). Colgate has wins over Hobart and Bucknell, only lost by 3 to resurgent Binghampton (as USILA current poll spells it); Bucknell and Binghamton are HMs in this week's poll.

Of the 7 players with more than 5 points this year, 5 are freshman/sophomore, 2 are junior/senior. With 6 of 13 RS games played, Jeff Teat has 25 points: 0 1 2 11 5 6. Five points a game the rest of the RS would give him 60 in 13 games. Rob Pannell put up 67 points in 17 games his first year.

Other than the Virgina OT game, when we lose, we lose badly. Let's see if this is a turning point.

faceoffs are really killing this team.. the UV game it was pretty even, others it has been bad.. This game they still lost faceoffs 19-6 but forced a ton of TOs. I would like to think the D has to be getting better since they spend 70% of the game playing it..

upprdeck
faceoffs are really killing this team.. the UV game it was pretty even, others it has been bad.. This game they still lost faceoffs 19-6 but forced a ton of TOs. I would like to think the D has to be getting better since they spend 70% of the game playing it..

Didn't our FOGO quit right before the season?

ugarte

upprdeck
faceoffs are really killing this team.. the UV game it was pretty even, others it has been bad.. This game they still lost faceoffs 19-6 but forced a ton of TOs. I would like to think the D has to be getting better since they spend 70% of the game playing it..

Didn't our FOGO quit right before the season?

Right you are, Ugarte. Note the cautious and interesting wording:

Inside Lacrosse, September 2016
FOGO Massimilian No Longer With Cornell Team, Retains Year of Eligibility
“The coaching staff and I both agreed that the Cornell lacrosse program wasn’t the right fit for me,” [FOGO Domenic] Massimilian says. Massimillian is still enrolled at Cornell and plans to use his fourth and final year of eligibility at another school for the 2018 season. He explained the decision not to transfer and play somewhere else for 2017 saying: “I love Cornell [Hotel School] and wanted to finish my last year here, graduate and then use my last year of eligibility somewhere else while pursuing a graduate degree.” [www.insidelacrosse.com]

Coach Matt Kerwick danced around the faceoff disparity and called Cornell's 6x25 (25%) "misleading." See the Daily Sun:

Jamil Rahmin, Cornell Daily Sun
On the field, Cornell was the far more dominant team. One category that the Red was outdone in was faceoffs — — Colgate won 19 of the 25 faceoffs — a component that the team has been weak in all year.

Kerwick wasn’t discouraged by the numbers on the stat sheet, however, calling them in this particular instance “misleading.”

“It’s an interesting stat sometimes — they came up with a few that we ended up sticking with and maybe ended up checking away from them and getting possession back,” he said. “Technically we lost the faceoff, but we were able to scrap and create offense from a few of those.

Kerwick added, however, that it’s an area the team “certainly has to improve upon” moving forward. [cornellsun.com]

One wonders if you could put a stick in the hands of Gabe Dean and improve on 25% faceoff success.

O.K., forgive me, please. But, I'm still confused.
The Rasimowicz kids creds are incredible, if they are to be believed.
The announcers touted him as one of the best in the country before the Penn State game.
Then he gets smoked. And, the FO stats continue to unimpress.

Massimillian quits the program, but stays at Cornell. Huh?

DeLuca gets canned under mysterious circumstances and ends up coaching at Harvard?

WTF is going on here!!??

And DeLuca also coached at Duke, before becoming the associate head coach at Harvard

Johnny 5
Massimillian quits the program, but stays at Cornell. Huh?

I guess you weren't paying attention to some of last year's events. If you read his statement carefully you'll see he didn't just "quit the program."

[www.laxpower.com]

Al DeFlorio

Johnny 5
Massimillian quits the program, but stays at Cornell. Huh?

I guess you weren't paying attention to some of last year's events. If you read his statement carefully you'll see he didn't just "quit the program."

[www.laxpower.com]

Thanks. I try to pay attention, I really do. Touch of ADHD.
Wasn't aware that he needed anger management intervention.
If true, Kerwick made the right call. Shame.

Guess I also need to widen my sources of lacrosse information.
I always thought that this forum was the ultimate reference. My bad.

Thanks again.

Johnny 5

Al DeFlorio

Johnny 5
Massimillian quits the program, but stays at Cornell. Huh?

I guess you weren't paying attention to some of last year's events. If you read his statement carefully you'll see he didn't just "quit the program."

[www.laxpower.com]

Thanks. I try to pay attention, I really do. Touch of ADHD.
Wasn't aware that he needed anger management intervention.
If true, Kerwick made the right call. Shame.

Guess I also need to widen my sources of lacrosse information.
I always thought that this forum was the ultimate reference. My bad.

Thanks again.

No problem. Hey, I'm glad you care so much.

Al DeFlorio

Johnny 5

Al DeFlorio

Johnny 5
Massimillian quits the program, but stays at Cornell. Huh?

I guess you weren't paying attention to some of last year's events. If you read his statement carefully you'll see he didn't just "quit the program."

[www.laxpower.com]

Thanks. I try to pay attention, I really do. Touch of ADHD.
Wasn't aware that he needed anger management intervention.
If true, Kerwick made the right call. Shame.

Guess I also need to widen my sources of lacrosse information.
I always thought that this forum was the ultimate reference. My bad.

Thanks again.

No problem. Hey, I'm glad you care so much.

I do. I'm an alum.
And, I've successfully encouraged many of my former students to choose my alma mater; some of them stellar lax players.
So, I've had a vested interest for a long time.
Perhaps, one reason why I dislike the Syracuse program as much as I do?

"Go Big Red!!"

*tugs collar* 10-9 Penn.

ugarte
*tugs collar* 10-9 Penn.

Crushing loss. We led 9-7, gave up 3 straight to Penn, had the ball at the end, sent a shot just high ... and Penn had the play backed up better than Cornell, so Quakers got the ball and ran down the clock. Note this: With just a couple seconds left to play to protect that one goal lead, Penn's clear was this: loft the ball skyward into the far end of the field. No danger of a takeaway. I'm not sure where it came down because the video guy didn't pan to follow. But the game ended, no miracle at the midfield.

Freshman Connor Fletcher had another monster game, 5G 1A, 21 points after 7 games. Jeff Teat was 2-1, 29 points for the season.

We are 0-2 in the Ivies now. Penn was a game Cornell needed to win to have a reasonable chance to make the playoffs. Seven teams, four go. We have to find 4 wins, maybe three, out of Brown (maybe), Princeton (maybe not), Dartmouth (good chance, just 1 win overall), Harvard (?). A 4-2 team always goes, a 3-3 team did last year; in 2015, 3-3 Yale went, 3-3 Penn (which lost RS to Yale) did not.

This week, HM Yale upset #12 Princeton 16-13 and Harvard beat Dartmouth 14-7. [www.ivyleague.com]

The nation's best freshman may be Michael Sowers of Princeton, 19-23--42 after eight games. Versus Yale, first game without a goal. #10 on Inside Lacrosse freshman rankings.

cornell had UV beat, throttled colgate who almost too down Army and Army beat SU, then cornell had Penn beat late too.

at least its been a game worth watching late. too bad its only the fr who seem to be doing anything, get 2-3 of those next year and maybe we have something going in the right diection.

billhoward
A 4-2 team always goes, a 3-3 team did last year; in 2015, 3-3 Yale went, 3-3 Penn (which lost RS to Yale) did not.

3-3 usually gets in; that Penn team is the only exception in the history of the ILT. Basically you need to beat the 3 teams that don't get in.

But we really needed the win over Penn today to have a decent shot at 3-3.

Cornell isn't going to the playoffs this year, that is clearly evident.

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billhoward
Note this: With just a couple seconds left to play to protect that one goal lead, Penn's clear was this: loft the ball skyward into the far end of the field. No danger of a takeaway.

Fortunately, a game where this play would have resulted in a national championship never actually happened.

We're still repressing, right?

And, what team is now ranked #1 in D-1 at 9-0??
Wow, where can we find a coach like that!!??

4 of top 10 this week are from New York State [www.usila.org]

5 Syracuse
7 Hofstra
8 Albany'
9 Army
Plus Stony Brook and Binghamton received votes.

Johnny 5
And, what team is now ranked #1 in D-1 at 9-0??
Wow, where can we find a coach like that!!??

There was never any chance Tambroni would stay at Cornell. Great coaches leave the Ivys for better recruiting elsewhere. The list includes Starsia, Tierney, Tillman, and Tiffany in addition to Tambroni.

On this basis, I suggest looking for a new coach whose name begins with S or (preferably) T!

CU77

Johnny 5
And, what team is now ranked #1 in D-1 at 9-0??
Wow, where can we find a coach like that!!??

There was never any chance Tambroni would stay at Cornell. Great coaches leave the Ivys for better recruiting elsewhere. The list includes Starsia, Tierney, Tillman, and Tiffany in addition to Tambroni.

On this basis, I suggest looking for a new coach whose name begins with S or (preferably) T!

Yeah, but Tierney was at Princeton for 22 seasons and was already a Hall of Famer when he left. Hardly a "stepping stone" stay.

The Ivies have no cap on what they can pay the coaches. They could, with endowed chairs of coaching, match most of the highest paying schools in hockey-lax-wrestling. Or we identify the climbers who'll give Cornell 5-10 years on the way up.

billhoward
The Ivies have no cap on what they can pay the coaches. They could, with endowed chairs of coaching, match most of the highest paying schools in hockey-lax-wrestling. Or we identify the climbers who'll give Cornell 5-10 years on the way up.

Correct. Harvard pays their basketball coach Tommy Amaker $700,000.

[www.celebritynetworth.com]

Ken711

billhoward
The Ivies have no cap on what they can pay the coaches. They could, with endowed chairs of coaching, match most of the highest paying schools in hockey-lax-wrestling. Or we identify the climbers who'll give Cornell 5-10 years on the way up.

Correct. Harvard pays their basketball coach Tommy Amaker $700,000.
[www.celebritynetworth.com]

Some coaches must be getting residuals on this list of 119. Rick Majerus checked December 2012.

Celebrity Net Worth
The Highest Paid College Basketball Coaches:

Mike Krzyzewski – Duke: $9.7 million
Rick Pitino – Louisville: $5.8 million
John Calipari – Kentucky: $5.5 million
Bill Self – Kansas: $5 million
Billy Donovan – Florida: $3.9 million
Tom Izzo – Michigan State: $3.9 million
Steve Alford – UCLA: $3.5 million
Thad Matta – Ohio State: $3.3 million
Bob Huggins – West Virginia: $3 million
Josh Pastner – Memphis: $2.7 million
Sean Miller – University of Arizona: $2.6 million
Rick Barnes – Texas: $2.6 million
John Beilein – Michigan: $2.5 million
Jay Wright – Villanova: $2.5 million
Travis Ford – Oklahoma State: $2.5 million
Jamie Dixon – Pittsburgh: $2.4 million
Bo Ryan – Wisconsin: $2.4 million
Matt Painter – Purdue: $2.325 million
Tom Crean – Indiana: $2.240 million
Tony Bennett – Virginia: $2.3 million
Lon Kruger – Oklahoma: $2.2 million
Scott Drew – Baylor: $2.1 million
Mark Gottfried – North Carolina State: $2 million
Kevin Stallings – Vanderbilt: $1.922 million
John Thompson III – Georgetown: $1.894 million
Dana Altman – Oregon: $1.8 million
Roy Williams – North Carolina: $1.71 million
Frank Haith – Tulsa: $1.6 million
Frank Martin – University of South Carolina: $1.56 million
Jim Boeheim – Syracuse: $1.521 million
Leonard Hamilton – Florida State: $1.5 million
Gregg Marshall – Wichita State: $1.45 million
Jim Larranaga – Miami: $1.3 million
Mick Cronin – Cincinnati: $1.25 million
Shaka Smart – Virginia Commonwealth: $1.19 million
Mark Few – Gonzaga: $1.056 million
Greg McDermott – Creighton: $1.025 million
Stan Heath – South Florida: $875,000
Fred Hoiberg – Iowa State: $850,000
Steve Fisher – San Diego State: $800,000
Tommy Amaker – Harvard: $700,000
Jim Ferry – Duquesne: $600,000
Tad Boyle – Colorado: $580,000
Tim Miles – University of Nebraska: $585,000
Mike Brey – Notre Dame: $573,974
Fran Dunphy – Temple: $547,403
Rick Byrd – Belmont: $524,674
Chris Mack – Xavier: $484,399
Dave Rice – Nevada Las Vegas: $450,000
Dan Monson – Long Beach State: $445,054
Larry Eustachy – Colorado State: $430,000
Randy Bennett – Saint Mary's: $396,317
Ray Harper – Western Kentucky: $375,000
Ray McCallum – Detroit: $341,775
Marvin Menzies – New Mexico State: $340,500
Mark Schmidt – St. Bonaventure: $328,465
Bob McKillop – Davidson: $321,345
John Giannini – La Salle: $275,000
Steve Prohm – Murray State: $205,000

billhoward

Ken711

billhoward
The Ivies have no cap on what they can pay the coaches. They could, with endowed chairs of coaching, match most of the highest paying schools in hockey-lax-wrestling. Or we identify the climbers who'll give Cornell 5-10 years on the way up.

Correct. Harvard pays their basketball coach Tommy Amaker $700,000.
[www.celebritynetworth.com]

Some coaches must be getting residuals on this list of 119. Rick Majerus checked December 2012.

Celebrity Net Worth
The Highest Paid College Basketball Coaches:

Mike Krzyzewski – Duke: $9.7 million
Rick Pitino – Louisville: $5.8 million
John Calipari – Kentucky: $5.5 million
Bill Self – Kansas: $5 million
Billy Donovan – Florida: $3.9 million
Tom Izzo – Michigan State: $3.9 million
Steve Alford – UCLA: $3.5 million
Thad Matta – Ohio State: $3.3 million
Bob Huggins – West Virginia: $3 million
Josh Pastner – Memphis: $2.7 million
Sean Miller – University of Arizona: $2.6 million
Rick Barnes – Texas: $2.6 million
John Beilein – Michigan: $2.5 million
Jay Wright – Villanova: $2.5 million
Travis Ford – Oklahoma State: $2.5 million
Jamie Dixon – Pittsburgh: $2.4 million
Bo Ryan – Wisconsin: $2.4 million
Matt Painter – Purdue: $2.325 million
Tom Crean – Indiana: $2.240 million
Tony Bennett – Virginia: $2.3 million
Lon Kruger – Oklahoma: $2.2 million
Scott Drew – Baylor: $2.1 million
Mark Gottfried – North Carolina State: $2 million
Kevin Stallings – Vanderbilt: $1.922 million
John Thompson III – Georgetown: $1.894 million
Dana Altman – Oregon: $1.8 million
Roy Williams – North Carolina: $1.71 million
Frank Haith – Tulsa: $1.6 million
Frank Martin – University of South Carolina: $1.56 million
Jim Boeheim – Syracuse: $1.521 million
Leonard Hamilton – Florida State: $1.5 million
Gregg Marshall – Wichita State: $1.45 million
Jim Larranaga – Miami: $1.3 million
Mick Cronin – Cincinnati: $1.25 million
Shaka Smart – Virginia Commonwealth: $1.19 million
Mark Few – Gonzaga: $1.056 million
Greg McDermott – Creighton: $1.025 million
Stan Heath – South Florida: $875,000
Fred Hoiberg – Iowa State: $850,000
Steve Fisher – San Diego State: $800,000
Tommy Amaker – Harvard: $700,000
Jim Ferry – Duquesne: $600,000
Tad Boyle – Colorado: $580,000
Tim Miles – University of Nebraska: $585,000
Mike Brey – Notre Dame: $573,974
Fran Dunphy – Temple: $547,403
Rick Byrd – Belmont: $524,674
Chris Mack – Xavier: $484,399
Dave Rice – Nevada Las Vegas: $450,000
Dan Monson – Long Beach State: $445,054
Larry Eustachy – Colorado State: $430,000
Randy Bennett – Saint Mary's: $396,317
Ray Harper – Western Kentucky: $375,000
Ray McCallum – Detroit: $341,775
Marvin Menzies – New Mexico State: $340,500
Mark Schmidt – St. Bonaventure: $328,465
Bob McKillop – Davidson: $321,345
John Giannini – La Salle: $275,000
Steve Prohm – Murray State: $205,000

There are some reports that Amaker is making close to $1 million with athletic companies and alumni dollars added on.

Ken711

billhoward
The Ivies have no cap on what they can pay the coaches. They could, with endowed chairs of coaching, match most of the highest paying schools in hockey-lax-wrestling. Or we identify the climbers who'll give Cornell 5-10 years on the way up.

Correct. Harvard pays their basketball coach Tommy Amaker $700,000.
[www.celebritynetworth.com]

Nice list except it appears to date in original form to pre-2013 with an update in 2015 (current date is March 2015). Reader comments noted that Rick Majerus was doing well considering he made the list yet died in December 2012. He isn't mentioned now. Roy Williams is a steal at UNC at $1.71M if that's anywhere near current.

billhoward

Ken711

billhoward
The Ivies have no cap on what they can pay the coaches. They could, with endowed chairs of coaching, match most of the highest paying schools in hockey-lax-wrestling. Or we identify the climbers who'll give Cornell 5-10 years on the way up.

Correct. Harvard pays their basketball coach Tommy Amaker $700,000.
[www.celebritynetworth.com]

Nice list except it appears to date in original form to pre-2013 with an update in 2015 (current date is March 2015). Reader comments noted that Rick Majerus was doing well considering he made the list yet died in December 2012. He isn't mentioned now. Roy Williams is a steal at UNC at $1.71M if that's anywhere near current.

The point is that Ivy League schools can pay their coaches very competitive salaries in some sports if they so desire.

is harvard paying for the coach or is it endowed in some way?

upprdeck
is harvard paying for the coach or is it endowed in some way?

Probably a combination, the position is endowed.

[www.gocrimson.com]

RichH
Tierney was at Princeton for 22 seasons and was already a Hall of Famer when he left. Hardly a "stepping stone" stay.

True enough. But Princeton just got incredibly lucky with Tierney. No one had any idea that he was going to be the greatest lax coach of all time when PU hired him.

Whatever magic/luck Princeton had back then is gone. The guy they picked to replace Tierney is now coaching high school. Which shows how hard it is to pick good coaches, especially (I would say) in the more obscure sports like lax.

Ken711

upprdeck
is harvard paying for the coach or is it endowed in some way?

Probably a combination, the position is endowed.
[www.gocrimson.com]

Here's one we don't have:

Harvard Athletic Endowments
Skiing, Alpine & Nordic (Men’s & Women’s) – The Paul J. Finnegan Family Head Coach for Harvard Skiing

And where do they practice and compete?

Princeton is still #12 in this year's poll, which we are not, even after losing their old coach, Chris Bates, in early April 2016 after running on field and bumping/pushing a Brown player. And it's Princeton right now with the arguably best freshman in the country in Michael Sowers, 42 points in 8 games. (He was No. 10 on the Inside Lacrosse Top 100 where Jeff Teat was No. 1.)

Hey, there's always Dartmouth!!

It used to be the football was terrible, but you could always look to hockey, and then that nice stretch with basketball, and if all else failed, you could always look to Spring and lacrosse. Ahhh the good ole days.

1st period 4-0 cornell.. outshot Dart. 18-0

I dont think i have ever seen that, still the key to this team is 18 shots only on net.

how would people feel had CU not blown the late leads against UV and Penn, and were playing today to go to 4-4 and 2-1 in the ivy, it would seem to be trending up even if its a slow trend

solid win never in doubt.

if yale were to win today and brown loses every team would have a loss and cornell 1-2 would not be out of the realm to make the Ivy tourney..

I think they have Harvard next week which is probably the make or break part of the season 2-2 keeps the hope alive, 1-3 probably does them in.

They will need to beat Harvard and Brown on the road to have a shot at the ILT (or lose one of those and beat Princeton at home). So far, they have not shown the resillience under pressure needed to win close games, but hope springs eternal.

Cornell looking decent at Harvard. Down 5-2, runs off 3 straight for a 5-5 tie at the half. We are getting clobbered on faceoffs against a Harvard team that went something like 6x32 vs. Albany.

Harvard announcers do a very nice job talking about Cornell players and not just Jeff Teat. We could do with a little less on the Harvard players who bailed on Cornell when Ben DeLuca was exiled, especially Joe Lang who had a good first half vs. Cornell [edit add:] and wound up with his third hat trick vs. Cornell in his career.

Second half: Cornell rolls off 5 straight, goes up 12-7 with 2 minutes to play, gives up a couple very late goals.

Good defensive effort by Cornell. Knight solid in goal. Harvard was sloppy on clears, Cornell had a number of takeaways.

Cornell is now 2-2 in the Ivies with Brown (hopefully a win) and Princeton (tough to win) left.

big win by cornell

down 5-2 and then runs it out 10-2 to go up 12-7 late

late game issues with the penalties let harvard score at the end

would love that penn game finish back now

upprdeck
big win by cornell

down 5-2 and then runs it out 10-2 to go up 12-7 late

late game issues with the penalties let harvard score at the end

would love that penn game finish back now

Much improved, especially on the defensive end. You're right that Penn game may really come back to bite us for the Ivy tournament. But we still have a reasonable chance, which did not look likely a few weeks ago.

scoop85

upprdeck
big win by cornell
down 5-2 and then runs it out 10-2 to go up 12-7 late
late game issues with the penalties let harvard score at the end
would love that penn game finish back now

Much improved, especially on the defensive end. You're right that Penn game may really come back to bite us for the Ivy tournament. But we still have a reasonable chance, which did not look likely a few weeks ago.

Cornell is Penn's only win so far.

Yale       4-0
Princeton  2-1
Brown      2-1
Cornell    2-2
Harvard    1-2
Penn       1-3
Dartmouth  0-3

Princeton plays @Dartmouth, Harvard, Cornell
Brown plays Yale, Cornell, @Dartmouth
Cornell plays @Brown, Princeton
Harvard plays Penn, @Princeton, Yale

It would be a near-miracle for Dartmouth to win a game against anyone except Penn. Losses to Harvard by 7, Cornell by 9, Yale by 7.
Brown beat Harvard 13-8, Penn 11-8, lost at Princeton 21-11.

If we can beat Brown, and Harvard beats Penn, we will most likely make the ILT.

Big game tomorrow night!

Johnny 5

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Big game tonight!

Actually tomorrow - but point well taken

Thank you.
Doesn't pay to hurry.

Johnny 5
Doesn't pay to hurry.

twss

Just in time for Tuesday's game: Syracuse climbs from 2 to 1 in the Media Poll. [www.insidelacrosse.com] (Former #1 Penn State fell 15-11 to now #3 Maryland and dropped to #7).

Syracuse is #2 in the USILA poll. [www.insidelacrosse.com]

We are not, as yet, up into also-receiving-votes territory. Future opponents Lehigh and Brown are also unranked. Princetton is 14/13 in the coaches and media polls.

Cornell women are 8/8 in the coaches and media polls. [www.ncaa.com] Just behind Princeton.

O.K,....if we don't get blown out I will definitely go to church Easter Sunday and give thanks.
Should (by some miracle) we win, I'll donate all my worldly possessions to the Little Sisters of the Poor.
Posthumously, of course.

syracuse has played a bunch of 1 goal games and let teams hang around. they are pretty good but also pretty easy to see them sitting around .500 right now with very little change in the games.

SU with three daggers to end an otherwise close first half. The CU shot which hit the pipe but led to a SU goal was vintage SU v CU. Plus the final goal of the half with 0.1 seconds left is just unexcusable.
Going to be very hard for Cornell to comeback since the Big Red only went 3-12 at the faceoff X in the first half and SU has been a better second half team much of the year.

MattShaf
SU with three daggers to end an otherwise close first half. The CU shot which hit the pipe but led to a SU goal was vintage SU v CU. Plus the final goal of the half with 0.1 seconds left is just unexcusable.
Going to be very hard for Cornell to comeback since the Big Red only went 3-12 at the faceoff X in the first half and SU has been a better second half team much of the year.

I'm not sure why you say that goal was "unexcusable" [sic]. The defensive player was all over him and the Syracuse kid pulled off an amazing shot just in the nick of time.

The shot that hit the crossbar and rebounded three-quarters of the field was the killer.

I'm afraid that the faceoff X will prove to be the killer.
It is now a rout.

We play Lehigh this weekend, Princeton in two weeks. Tuesday unranked Lehigh at home built up a 10-1 lead on Princeton and rolled to a 15-10 victory. That seems to improve our odds of beating Princeton and reduce the odds of beating Lehigh.

Of course, beating Princeton is much more important. Princeton has been very streaky, but I would put them as favorites over Cornell, especially if the game has ILT implications for them. In between is Brown on the road, also a streaky team, lost to Princeton by a bunch.

If Cornell can beat both Brown and Princeton, they still have an outside shot at the #1 seed in the ILT. We need Brown to beat Yale, and Harvard to beat Penn, this weekend (and Princeton to beat Dartmouth, but that's almost certain) for this scenario to remain alive.

CU77
Of course, beating Princeton is much more important. Princeton has been very streaky, but I would put them as favorites over Cornell, especially if the game has ILT implications for them. In between is Brown on the road, also a streaky team, lost to Princeton by a bunch.

If Cornell can beat both Brown and Princeton, they still have an outside shot at the #1 seed in the ILT. We need Brown to beat Yale, and Harvard to beat Penn, this weekend (and Princeton to beat Dartmouth, but that's almost certain) for this scenario to remain alive.

Why Princeton over Dartmouth?

not sure we really want princeton to win

Wait,...we win 3 of 22 FO thru three periods and we're up by four!!??

Cornell 16 Lehigh 11 today. Jeff Teat with 8 points.
Lehigh 15 Princeton 10 last week.

... feeling a little better about the last two games vs. Brown and Princeton

Also:
Penn 14, Harvard 10
Yale 18, Brown 12
Princeton at Dartmouth, later game

Standings now

Yale   5-0 will host Ivy tournament, has already played Princeton 
Prin   2-1 likely to be 3-1 after Dartmouth
Brown  2-2
Corn   2-2 
Penn   2-3 holds tiebraker vs. Cornell
Harv   1-3
Dart   0-3 likely to be 0-4

hard to understand this team sometimes.. but still losing 80% of the faceoffs is usually something you cant overcome.

winning one of the last 2 could well sneak them in. they could still avoid finishing 4th and getting yale too.