Lacrosse 2012-2013

In case you haven't heard it yet, Cornell narrowly beat the Tarheels and dominated the Bluejays last weekend. Here are some links:

Inside Lacrosse Story

Lacrosse Magazine

And, on the same day at the same place, Rob Pannell had four goals and four assists to lead all scorers in a USA team intrasquad scrimmage.

[laxmagazine.com]

The tone of the Inside Lacrosse story makes this sound like a very, very good year for Cornell. Sounds as if we have 4 goalies. Be nice if we have one who manages to be as good as Tyler Fiorito. We should all be thankful to Rob Pannell for sticking with Cornell (okay, he was the team captain, so that makes it a little harder to transfer loyalties) and to the Pannell Family for forking over a ninth (spring 2013) semester of tuition.

billhoward
The tone of the Inside Lacrosse story makes this sound like a very, very good year for Cornell. Sounds as if we have 4 goalies. Be nice if we have one who manages to be as good as Tyler Fiorito. We should all be thankful to Rob Pannell for sticking with Cornell (okay, he was the team captain, so that makes it a little harder to transfer loyalties) and to the Pannell Family for forking over a ninth (spring 2013) semester of tuition.

Thirty years from now, if things go as planned, Rob will look back at this decision as one of the best he ever made. Memories that erase the foul taste of 2009 will be priceless.

This is not to say that Cornell fans everywhere don't owe the Pannells a tremendous debt of gratitude. We also owe a similar debt to the coaching staff (now and when Rob was recruited) for recruiting someone with such character and installing in him such loyalty to and love for alma mater.

Al DeFlorio
And, on the same day at the same place, Rob Pannell had four goals and four assists to lead all scorers in a USA team intrasquad scrimmage.

[laxmagazine.com]

Cornell-Hopkins fallball highlights here: [television.insidelacrosse.com]

Team USA evaluation scrimmage highlights here: [television.insidelacrosse.com]

More Cornell-Hop highlights from lax.com:

Wow, That was fun. Looks like we may have some outside shooters to use against the zones that have troubled us before.

Thanks Al.

Schedule is out.

@ Albany (Scrimmage) - 02/09
vs. Hobart (at the Carrier Dome) - 02/24
vs. Binghamton - 02/26
vs. Colgate - 03/02
@ Canisius - 03/05
@ Virginia - 03/09
@ Yale - 03/16
vs. Bucknell - 03/19
vs. Penn - 03/23
vs. Siena - 03/26
vs. Dartmouth - 03/30
@ Harvard - 04/06
@ Syracuse - 04/09
@ Brown - 04/20
vs. Princeton (at MetLife Stadium) - 04/27
Ivy League Tourney 05/03-05/05

Really interesting schedule. Love the additions of Colgate and Bucknell, and even Siena is a welcome change. Also the Hobart game being at the dome is pretty hilarious after all the hand-wringing over last year's cancellation. The mid-season run @Yale/Bucknell/Penn/Siena/Dartmouth in 11 days seems pretty daunting. Also, the 14 regular season games (not including possible Ivy Tournament games or NCAA games) are more games than we played all of last year.

semsox
Schedule is out.

@ Albany (Scrimmage) - 02/09
vs. Hobart (at the Carrier Dome) - 02/24
vs. Binghamton - 02/26
vs. Colgate - 03/02
@ Canisius - 03/05
@ Virginia - 03/09
@ Yale - 03/16
vs. Bucknell - 03/19
vs. Penn - 03/23
vs. Siena - 03/26
vs. Dartmouth - 03/30
@ Harvard - 04/06
@ Syracuse - 04/09
@ Brown - 04/20
vs. Princeton (at MetLife Stadium) - 04/27
Ivy League Tourney 05/03-05/05

Really interesting schedule. Love the additions of Colgate and Bucknell, and even Siena is a welcome change. Also the Hobart game being at the dome is pretty hilarious after all the hand-wringing over last year's cancellation. The mid-season run @Yale/Bucknell/Penn/Siena/Dartmouth in 11 days seems pretty daunting. Also, the 14 regular season games (not including possible Ivy Tournament games or NCAA games) are more games than we played all of last year.

Interesting is right. The stretch of 3 road, 4 home, 3 road is bizarre as is giving up an Ivy home game to play at MetLife. Last home game could be March 30?! Senior day in March with four regular season games left? Also note that March 30 falls on hockey regional weekend.

At least more games = more chances for QWs and more teams to drop from t-10 SOS.

The Princeton game is part of a double-header. Notre Dame vs. Syracuse is the late game.

And unfortunately, it's the only game close enough for a day trip for me.

Just took a look at the schedule -- the Hobart game site and time are now listed as "TBA". Odd.

Last regular season game at home is March 30. I hope Cornell-Princeton @ Met Life (Meadowlands) is a 2 year deal so Princeton also gives up a home game.

semsox
Schedule is out.

@ Albany (Scrimmage) - 02/09
vs. Hobart (at the Carrier Dome) - 02/24
vs. Binghamton - 02/26
vs. Colgate - 03/02
@ Canisius - 03/05
@ Virginia - 03/09
@ Yale - 03/16
vs. Bucknell - 03/19
vs. Penn - 03/23
vs. Siena - 03/26
vs. Dartmouth - 03/30
@ Harvard - 04/06
@ Syracuse - 04/09
@ Brown - 04/20
vs. Princeton (at MetLife Stadium) - 04/27
Ivy League Tourney 05/03-05/05

Really interesting schedule. Love the additions of Colgate and Bucknell, and even Siena is a welcome change. Also the Hobart game being at the dome is pretty hilarious after all the hand-wringing over last year's cancellation. The mid-season run @Yale/Bucknell/Penn/Siena/Dartmouth in 11 days seems pretty daunting. Also, the 14 regular season games (not including possible Ivy Tournament games or NCAA games) are more games than we played all of last year.

The CU Athletics website says:



I hope someone gives the lacrosse team bus drive a map before they get on the road.

(Tickets for the doubleheader start at $25/$30 incl. TM fees, or $20 for group of 10 or more, if this hasn't already been mentioned. Also, for those who REALLY want to make a day of it, the group order form I found on the Giants Stadium website says that there are also prep school lacrosse games at 11am and 1:15pm featuring three of the better teams in New Jersey and one from Missouri.)

Feb 9 scrimmage against UAlbany is at Schoellkopf, NOT Albany per CU Athletics website, which says also that there will be livestats. For a scrimmage. Right.

TimV
Feb 9 scrimmage against UAlbany is at Schoellkopf, NOT Albany per CU Athletics website, which says also that there will be livestats. For a scrimmage. Right.

Data enterers have to get into game shape.

[www.syracuse.com]

The comments section is always good for a laugh
Hopefully the season will start soon and we can focus on game results instead of filler columns

How game-like is the scrimmage Saturday 2/9 (1 pm?) vs. Albany at Schoellkopf: jerseys with RS numbers? quarters aand game conditions like faceoffs and penalties? running scoreboard? I'm weighing whether to come back for hockey and this would be a nice addition to the weekend.

Even if it isn't a "real" game, it's worth it. If the roster numbers aren't accurate, there will be plenty of people who know who is who [and you aren't shy, anyway]. The weather could be horrible, however....the main drawback to a lacrosse scrimmage in February.

Duuuuuude! Who cares? Skip the hockey. It's LACROSSE!

Cornell95
[www.syracuse.com]

The comments section is always good for a laugh
Hopefully the season will start soon and we can focus on game results instead of filler columns

The comments link to recruiting videos about facilities, etc. for 'Cuse & Notre Dame. Does Cornell have similar videos? Where?

Among other things, the videos show very nice indoor practice facilities for lacrosse. Nowadays, does Cornell have a facility like these? (Back in the day, we had a field house with a dirt floor. I don't remember its name . I just remember playing golf in it one January.)

Swampy
Among other things, the videos show very nice indoor practice facilities for lacrosse. Nowadays, does Cornell have a facility like these? (Back in the day, we had a field house with a dirt floor. I don't remember its name . I just remember playing golf in it one January.)

Bacon Cage. Took golf lessons there from Clayton Chapman, later commissioner of the ECAC.

Lacrosse practice from the Harkness years until the facility formerly known as Alberding was built were in the old polo barn just behind the Schoelkopf parking lot. Thankfully, there was no youtube then. It lives only in the nightmares of fat geriatric lacrosse alums.

TimV
Duuuuuude! Who cares? Skip the hockey. It's LACROSSE!

Seems like the hockey team has the same idea!!

billhoward
How game-like is the scrimmage Saturday 2/9 (1 pm?) vs. Albany at Schoellkopf: jerseys with RS numbers? quarters aand game conditions like faceoffs and penalties? running scoreboard? I'm weighing whether to come back for hockey and this would be a nice addition to the weekend.

If you go, Bill, use one of your high-tech gadgets to update the rest of us on Laxpower's Live Action Game Reports page.

[www.laxpower.com]

Al DeFlorio

billhoward
How game-like is the scrimmage Saturday 2/9 (1 pm?) vs. Albany at Schoellkopf: jerseys with RS numbers? quarters aand game conditions like faceoffs and penalties? running scoreboard? I'm weighing whether to come back for hockey and this would be a nice addition to the weekend.

If you go, Bill, use one of your high-tech gadgets to update the rest of us on Laxpower's Live Action Game Reports page.
[www.laxpower.com]

The tech gadget would be a thermite warming pack in my gloves. Forecast now says temps top out in low 20s Saturday. Still, it's tempting.

Scrimmage against Albany moved to 1:00 p.m. on Sunday to minimize travel issues.

Hey,
I know this isn't exactly Cornell related, but.......

Albany 16 Syracuse 15 2OT

Remember,

Here's some sad news: [www.laxmagazine.com]

I just received an email from Athletics confirming that the lax game v. Hobart will be 7:00 p.m. at the Carrier Dome. It is also being carried by TWCSports at least here in central NY.

dbilmes
Here's some sad news: [www.laxmagazine.com]

Some more details from the Daily Sun...... Schimoler RIP

This season can't start soon enough. High expectations

Syracuse Post-Standard article on upcoming Cornell season.

Jim Hyla
Syracuse Post-Standard article on upcoming Cornell season.

That's a great photo.

Penn 14, Duke 9 final tonight

Lots more great pics on Cornell Lacrosse Twitter Page Greg.

The picture also captures a team tradition: the scoreboard in the background shows 21-10. During practices they keep those numbers up to memorialize #21 George Boiardi and #10 Eamon McEneaney and the ethic those two characterized.

TimV

The picture also captures a team tradition: the scoreboard in the background shows 21-10. During practices they keep those numbers up to memorialize #21 George Boiardi and #10 Eamon McEneaney and the ethic those two characterized.

Thanks for the explanation, Tim!

jeff '84

TimV

The picture also captures a team tradition: the scoreboard in the background shows 21-10. During practices they keep those numbers up to memorialize #21 George Boiardi and #10 Eamon McEneaney and the ethic those two characterized.

Thanks for the explanation, Tim!

Also nice that the uniform kit they're showing off has Paul Schimoler's No. 40 jersey.

Anything missing from this lede?

Laxpower.com
Shaughnessy Saves 19, But Stony Brook Falls to No. 6 Virginia

STONY BROOK, N.Y. – Mark Cockerton scored five goals and the No. 6 Virginia Cavaliers (3-0) outlasted the Stony Brook Seawolves (1-2) on Saturday afternoon at Kenneth P. LaValle Stadium. Virginia held a narrow one-goal lead going into the intermission, 6-5, but the Cavalier defense clamped and limited Stony Brook to only four shots in the second half.

"In conditions like this against a team that was fired up to play us, and to have a game that was back and forth almost the entire time until we took control of it in the fourth quarter, it was a very satisfying result for us,” said Virginia head coach Dom Starsia. ... [www.laxpower.com]

Links to this week's two polls and Quint's rankings here at Inside Lacrosse: [www.insidelacrosse.com]

Big Red at #7 with coaches, #5 with media, #4 with Quint. Too early to be meaningful.

Just noticed from the Laxpower recap that we had an 8-goal victory and Fiore made 7 saves. In other words, we would have won this game without even playing a goalie - perhaps we'd have done even better if we'd just dressed an extra defender...

I was not at the game but watched on TV. I am not really sure how to evaluate AJ's game. He made some spectacular saves in the first half, when the game was close. He was a different goalie in the second half but I am not completely sure why. He was left hanging out to dry by his defense on a couple of those second half goals, but the difference in his stats can't be attributed only to his defense. Maybe a txt during halftime that upset him? Someone stole his wallet in the lockerroom? Lost a contact lens?

dag14
I was not at the game but watched on TV. I am not really sure how to evaluate AJ's game. He made some spectacular saves in the first half, when the game was close. He was a different goalie in the second half but I am not completely sure why. He was left hanging out to dry by his defense on a couple of those second half goals, but the difference in his stats can't be attributed only to his defense. Maybe a txt during halftime that upset him? Someone stole his wallet in the lockerroom? Lost a contact lens?

Found out his fake girlfriend had died?

Robb
Just noticed from the Laxpower recap that we had an 8-goal victory and Fiore made 7 saves. In other words, we would have won this game without even playing a goalie - perhaps we'd have done even better if we'd just dressed an extra defender...

Always a chance the coaches have a fair idea of who the best goalie is. It was nice (schadenfreude-ish way) to see Quint Kessenich noting Princeton has goalie troubles now that the Fiorito years are done: [insidelacrosse.com] "16. Princeton — The Tigers topped Hofstra in in their first game, 10-7, a positive sign for a team that has question marks on defense and between the pipes. Matt O'Connor started in goal and earned his first collegiate victory. The Tigers won the shot stat 38-33 and groundballs were 30-23. Tom Schreiber and Mike MacDonald roll into Baltimore on Friday at 5 p.m."

I am willing to give AJ a few games (particularly if we keep winning)
There has certainly been an issue in the past with him picking up the ball on shots from 15+ feet out
That said, it is my understanding that The Dome is challenging for goalies

I think after the next two games in more regular conditions, we will know a lot more about how he has improved at handling outside shooters and whether he has the leadership skills to direct his defense (might as well throw in a mention of clearing the ball too, elite goalies are supposed to be an asset there right?)

KDM3

Pannell named Ivy POTW.

Robb
Just noticed from the Laxpower recap that we had an 8-goal victory and Fiore made 7 saves. In other words, we would have won this game without even playing a goalie - perhaps we'd have done even better if we'd just dressed an extra defender...

Women's hockey had a game like that last week.

Cornell95
it is my understanding that The Dome is challenging for goalies

The Dome was challenging to goalies because the end zone seats were silver aluminum and that caused some difficulty in discriminating where the ball was until the movement could be tracked coming out of the stick, which might take a fraction of a second. Now, however, those end zone seats appear to have orange padding on them, so that problem seems to be cured.

The other reason The Dome was challenging to goalies was they were being shot at by the likes of the Gaits, the Powells, John Zulberti etc. etc. That problem also has been cured.

TimV
The other reason The Dome was challenging to goalies was they were being shot at by the likes of the Gaits, the Powells, John Zulberti etc. etc. That problem also has been cured.

*snicker*

Jim Hyla
Pannell named Ivy POTW.

The week's least surprising news. Still, nice.

A couple more games like this and you start to wonder where the 2013 attack ranks all-time at Cornell after the 1976 attack:
AA 1st team - French (1976 player of the year). So good he was player of the year before there was a Tewaaraton Trophy,
AA 1st team - McEneaney (your #10 on the practice scoreboard (RIP), and player of the year in 1977 as well as attackman of the year 1975 -- think a scrawny Rob Pannell with flaming red hair
AA 2nd team - Jon Levine
AA 1st team - middie Bill Marino
AA HM -- three more HM middies.
The only player at their level in the rest of D1 was Maryland's incredible middie Frank Urso. Having the best goalie in the country (Dan Mackesy) made life a little easier for the Cornell attack. Gad, they were good.

First, let's get a couple games in the W column. Today's Binghamton game, the only challenge (theoretically) should be video feed staying up and wondering why there's no fans at all (Crescent, opposite the camera(s?), is closed because of all the snow, with only the West Stands open [cornellbigred.com]). It is currently a balmy 39 degrees in Ithaca. Colgate will be a decent match Saturday. Then at-Virginia March 9 will be a huge test.

Looks like there's a CBS Sports webcast of next Saturday's lax game at Virginia. $6.95 for a month, but it's one of those deals where they will automatically renew the subscription on a monthly basis unless you specifically tell them to cancel your subscription.

[www.virginiasports.com]

#3 this week in Nike Poll

Swampy
#3 this week in Nike Poll

USILA, too

Knishes appears to want $12.95 for a monthly subscription to watch tomorrow's lax game: [www.nmnathletics.com]

Again, subscription automatically renews unless you cancel.

Save your dough (knishes...dough...crack myself up) and buy the UVa game instead.

Al DeFlorio
Knishes appears to want $12.95 for a monthly subscription to watch tomorrow's lax game: [www.nmnathletics.com] Again, subscription automatically renews unless you cancel.

Took a moment to decipher, Kah-nishes. Got it.

Cornell scores the last 10 to pull away 18-7 over Canisius in what was a tight game for nearly three quarters. If livestats is correct, Pannell goes 4 and 4.

The Red were pretty sloppy through 3 quarters and AJ was not seeing the ball. Way too many sloppy passes and other unforced errors. Canisius played well, except for some dumb penalties. Much like our hockey team this season.

dag14
The Red were pretty sloppy through 3 quarters and AJ was not seeing the ball. Way too many sloppy passes and other unforced errors. Canisius played well, except for some dumb penalties. Much like our hockey team this season.

Except for the part about playing well, that does sound like our hockey team.

Time flies when youre winning. Senior day is Saturday, March 30, vs. Darmouth. The rest of the regular season is on the road. The Princeton at Cornell game end of Aoril is at the Meadowlands. We can hope for the Ivy tournament and NCaa first round game to be in Ithaca.

Are helping our RPI so far- Virginia 6 Maryland 3 and Bucknell 10 Army 5 both in 2nd half.

Up to #1 in the Laxpower rankings following Maryland's loss to Virginia last night.

Be interesting for Cornell to be #1 in power rankings and also (at least as of midweek) facing the first round NCAA game as the visiting team.

Half of all living Cornellians arrived after Richie Moran stepped down as lacrosse coach. It was great to see him in the stands at the Meadowlands stadium Saturday cheering on Cornell. being an incredible supporter of Cornell sports, and a link to the greatest years of Cornell lax who continues to be part of Cornell. I don't think you'll see Rick Pitino or John Calipari spending their post-coaching years on campus. (Jim Boeheim, yes, to his credit, will always be a Syracuse guy.) Richie is ever-upbeat and he must know every Cornellian who crossed his path. Somebody, please, name a building after Richie. I'll kick in for one of the men's room swinging doors.

Richie is awesome!!!!
I have to edit this post. I met Richie for the first time one memorial day weekend, actually on the saturday night after the semi-finals in 1987. It was in a crappy god-knows where motel in NJ after we had just defeated Syracuse, and the Gaits, in the NCAA semi final at Rutgers. I was a nobody, no lacrosse background, nothing,... and he made me feel like an expert. It was an amazing day. The game was tied 15-15 on a hot hot hot afternoon. Cornell with Goldstein and Wurtzberger clicking like they had all year, was gassed. The heat was taking its toll on our up-tempo game, and Syracuse was coming on to us and we had no timeouts left. Richie then pulls the ultimate move, a coaches stick check! A few minutes break while the stick was being checked, and just like he planned it, 3 goals in a row for the good guys and an 18 - 15 win. THE, THE, THE, best f'ing game I have ever seen. We had no time-outs left and the stick check was the only way to slow down the game and Richie pulled it off. The Syracuse coach, Simmons I think it was, was completely bullshit, screaming like a banshee, going nuts. Anyway, the rules were changed after that.
I met Richie a few times after that. He will not remember me, but I will never forget him.
A Cornell treasure.....

Pannell Named Ivy Player Of the Week For The Fourth Time This Season
ITHACA, N.Y. – It will come as no surprise to anyone who watched the Cornell men's lacrosse team's 17-11 victory over Princeton at the Big City Classic that Big Red senior Rob Pannell has been named the Ivy League Player of the Week, earning the honor for the fourth time this season. The award marks the 11th time in Pannell's career that he has been named the conference's player of the week...
With his performance against Princeton, Pannell moved into third place in NCAA Division I history for both career points (323) and career assists (190). He owns the longest goal scoring streak (33 games) and point scoring streak (68 games) in the nation and currently has a streak of 22 games in which he has registered at least three points....

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Via Wikipedia
1. Matt Danowski, Duke, 353 points
1. Zach Greer, 353 points [at Duke and Bryant]
3. Joe Vasta Air Force, 343
4. Rob Pannell, 327 points [Cornell says 323 points and says he is third - the 4 extra are the injury year?]

All-Ivy lacrosse [www.cornellbigred.com]
Pannell player of the year again, third time (not freshman year b/c of Seibald still being around). Pannell, Mock, Buczek, Noble are first team (all unanimous). Van Bourgondien, Keith, and Fiore (!!!) are second-team All-Ivy. Then Cornell runs out of depth; no Cornell HMs.

2013 Men's Lacrosse All-Ivy
Player of the Year
Rob Pannell, Cornell (Sr., Smithtown, N.Y.)

Rookie of the Year
Jake Froccaro, Princeton (Fr., Sands Point, N.Y.)


FIRST TEAM
Attack
^Rob Pannell, Cornell (Sr., Smithtown, N.Y.)
^Steve Mock, Cornell (Sr., Huntington, N.Y.)
Mike MacDonald, Princeton (So., Georgetown, Ontario, Canada)

Midfield
^Connor Buczek, Cornell (Soph., Cincinnati, Ohio)
Zack Losco, Penn (Jr., Smithtown, N.Y.)
^Tom Schreiber, Princeton (Jr., East Meadow, N.Y.)

Defenders
^Jason Noble, Cornell (Sr., Orangeville, Ontario, Canada)
^Anthony Santomo, Penn (Jr., Mendham,. N.J.)
Peter Johnson, Yale (Sr., Minnetonka, Minn.)

Goalie
Brian Feeney, Penn (Jr., Summit, N.J.)


SECOND TEAM
Attack
Tim Schwalje, Penn (Sr., Setauket, N.Y.)
Jeff Froccaro, Princeton (Sr., Sands Point, N.Y.)
Brandon Mangan, Yale (Jr.. Wantagh, N.Y.)

Midfield +
Max Van Bourgondien, Cornell (Sr., New York)
Alex White, Harvard (Sr., Summit, N.J.)
Peter Schwartz, Harvard (Jr., Jenkintown, Pa.)
Kip Orban, Princeton (So., Westport, Conn.)

Defenders +
Thomas Keith, Cornell (Sr., Woodbury, N.Y.)
Pat Flynn, Dartmouth (Sr., Mountain Lakes, N.J.)
Derick Raabe, Princeton (Jr., New Canaan, Conn.)
Mike McCormack, Yale (Sr., West Islip, N.Y.)

Goalie
AJ Fiore, Cornell (Sr., Ithaca, N.Y.)
Harry Krieger, Harvard (Sr., Timonium, Md.)


HONORABLE MENTION
Attack
Devin Dwyer, Harvard (Fr., Garden City, N.Y.)
Kirby Zdrill, Yale (Sr., Edmonton, Alberta, Canada)

Midfield
Alex Jones, Brown (Sr., Annapolis, Md.)
Roger Ferguson, Brown (Sr., Washington, D.C.)
Drew Belinsky, Penn (Jr., Manhasset, N.Y.)
Jake Froccaro, Princeton

Defender
Sam Ford, Brown (Sr., Reisterstown, Md.)
Jason Gonos, Harvard (Sr., Annapolis, Md.)
Maxx Meyer, Penn (Jr., Melville, N.Y.)

Goalie
Bernie Susskind, Dartmouth (Sr., Highland Beach, Fla.)

^unanimous selection
+ there are four midfielders and four defenders on the second team due to ties in the voting

billhoward
Pannell Named Ivy Player Of the Week For The Fourth Time This Season
ITHACA, N.Y. – It will come as no surprise to anyone who watched the Cornell men's lacrosse team's 17-11 victory over Princeton at the Big City Classic that Big Red senior Rob Pannell has been named the Ivy League Player of the Week, earning the honor for the fourth time this season. The award marks the 11th time in Pannell's career that he has been named the conference's player of the week...
With his performance against Princeton, Pannell moved into third place in NCAA Division I history for both career points (323) and career assists (190). He owns the longest goal scoring streak (33 games) and point scoring streak (68 games) in the nation and currently has a streak of 22 games in which he has registered at least three points....

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Via Wikipedia
1. Matt Danowski, Duke, 353 points
1. Zach Greer, 353 points [at Duke and Bryant]
3. Joe Vasta Air Force, 343
4. Rob Pannell, 327 points [Cornell says 323 points and says he is third - the 4 extra are the injury year?]

Pannell had something like 16 before his injury last year.

billhoward
Pannell Named Ivy Player Of the Week For The Fourth Time This Season
ITHACA, N.Y. – It will come as no surprise to anyone who watched the Cornell men's lacrosse team's 17-11 victory over Princeton at the Big City Classic that Big Red senior Rob Pannell has been named the Ivy League Player of the Week, earning the honor for the fourth time this season. The award marks the 11th time in Pannell's career that he has been named the conference's player of the week...
With his performance against Princeton, Pannell moved into third place in NCAA Division I history for both career points (323) and career assists (190). He owns the longest goal scoring streak (33 games) and point scoring streak (68 games) in the nation and currently has a streak of 22 games in which he has registered at least three points....

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Via Wikipedia
1. Matt Danowski, Duke, 353 points
1. Zach Greer, 353 points [at Duke and Bryant]
3. Joe Vasta Air Force, 343
4. Rob Pannell, 327 points [Cornell says 323 points and says he is third - the 4 extra are the injury year?]

Not sure about the discrepancy. As was already posted, he had 16 last year. I think the difference between third and fourth is whether Greer's year at Bryant counts. If I'm not mistaken they were quasi-D1 that year, like Penn State hockey was this past year. So it's ambiguous whether his stats count towards division 1 records.

Cornell probably has a more accurate count because it wants to publicize each RP3 milestone and doesn't want to have to issue corrections. He certainly is within striking distance of the points and assists records if the season extends the six more games we hope it does. Good for bragging rights in the future. Right, more wins is what counts.

By their own account, Cornell is not correct. The number is 327. Go to Cornell lacrosse's own bio of pannell and add up the first 4 years plus 2 games and you get 252 points. 75 this year makes it 327.

Jason Noble Named YRL Unsung Hero Award Finalist

The Unsung Hero page is here.

billhoward
Cornell probably has a more accurate count because it wants to publicize each RP3 milestone and doesn't want to have to issue corrections. He certainly is within striking distance of the points and assists records if the season extends the six more games we hope it does. Good for bragging rights in the future. Right, more wins is what counts.

I agree, if we win the next 6 and RP3 does not score another point that is better than RP3 scoring another 30 and losing. I suspect RP3 would agree.

I am sure Princeton will come loaded for bear on Friday, it is do or die for them. Winning that game is the only thing that counts right now.

[cornellsun.com]

From the Sun: 10 Questions with Rob Pannell.

Game being streamed on ESPN3 tonight.

Espn3 has baseball at the moment?

abmarks
Espn3 has baseball at the moment?

ESPN3 has about 11 different events at the moment, including Princeton-Cornell lax.

What was AJ doing there?

[insidelacrosse.com] the HS All-Americans playing in the North-South game include no one going to Cornell. A poster notes, "Cornell literally never has players on these lists. Yet every year they are in the top 10 or 5. Is it the type of character they recruit? How does that happen?"

Harvard, Yale, Princeton, Penn have players. Syracuse and Maryland have a boatload, six each.

In the North-South game, the power of HS lax forces the Mason-Dixon line up to the Pennsylvania-NY border. PA and NJ are in the South.

billhoward
[insidelacrosse.com] the HS All-Americans playing in the North-South game include no one going to Cornell. A poster notes, "Cornell literally never has players on these lists. Yet every year they are in the top 10 or 5. Is it the type of character they recruit? How does that happen?"

It's the system.

I don't think RP3 was on that list.

KeithK

billhoward
[insidelacrosse.com] the HS All-Americans playing in the North-South game include no one going to Cornell. A poster notes, "Cornell literally never has players on these lists. Yet every year they are in the top 10 or 5. Is it the type of character they recruit? How does that happen?"

It's the system.

+1

KeithK

billhoward
[insidelacrosse.com] the HS All-Americans playing in the North-South game include no one going to Cornell. A poster notes, "Cornell literally never has players on these lists. Yet every year they are in the top 10 or 5. Is it the type of character they recruit? How does that happen?"

It's the system.

And yet we haven't won the title since the 70's. It is clearly time to fire everybody involved and start over. After all, we are entitled to it.

NY Times article on Pannell: A Cornell Lacrosse Star Who Returned for a Ring

NY Times article on Pannell: A Cornell Lacrosse Star Who Returned for a Ring

2013 Men's Division I Lacrosse All-Americans

FIRST

Pannell
Noble

SECOND

Buczek

THIRD

Mock
Bourgondien

HON MENT

Keith

Baum (Colgate, Last year's Tewaaraton winner) Interestingly, Colgate also had the greatest Laxpower power rating decline from 12-13.

Third team for Mock? They gave Pannell a lot of credit for Mock's numbers.

I guess scoring the most goals in Division I and the most goals per game isn't enough for an attackman to be first team?

Maybe the first team A's have other skills, like third languages, juggling, magic, or gourmet cooking abilities.

Jim Hyla
2013 Men's Division I Lacrosse All-Americans

FIRST

Pannell
Noble

SECOND

Buczek

THIRD

Mock
Bourgondien

HON MENT

Keith

Baum (Colgate, Last year's Tewaaraton winner) Interestingly, Colgate also had the greatest Laxpower power rating decline from 12-13.

I know the Pannell Show is the prevailing narrative (nothing good rhymes with "Pannell" to work into a nickname like "Hrkac Circus", but this is a bit of a snub to Mock if you ask me, given that he leads the nation in goals per game.

Let's hope the snub is a little incentive for the weekend.

If we had an all-round attackman on the second or third team snubbed by the elevation of a goals-oriented attackman, we would make the same argument in favor of our all-rounder. The voters may have seen a player whose production fell off in the 2012 season without Pannell feeding him.

Steve Mock career stats 
2103	59G	9G	68pts	16 games, before NCAA semis
2012	23G	6A	29pts	No Pannell
2011	40G	3A	43pts	(edit: 40 not 30 goals in 2011) 
2010	21G	2A	23pts	Play 13G, start 2

There are already All-America slots for the faceoff specialist and long-stick midfielder. Maybe there should be one for pure goal scoring. The combination of two complementary players, Pannell and Mock, or McEneneany and French 1975-76 (only 2 varsity years overlapped), was more deadly that two attackman cut from the same cloth.

So let Mock be content with advancing further than the other two first-team AAs. And hopefully raising the big trophy Monday.

billhoward
If we had an all-round attackman on the second or third team snubbed by the elevation of a goals-oriented attackman, we would make the same argument in favor of our all-rounder. The voters may have seen a player whose production fell off in the 2012 season without Pannell feeding him.

Steve Mock career stats 
2103	59G	9G	68pts	16 games, before NCAA semis
2012	23G	6A	29pts	No Pannell
2011	30G	3A	43pts	
2010	21G	2A	23pts	Play 13G, start 2

There are already All-America slots for the faceoff specialist and long-stick midfielder. Maybe there should be one for pure goal scoring. The combination of two complementary players, Pannell and Mock, or McEneneany and French 1975-76 (only 2 varsity years overlapped), was more deadly that two attackman cut from the same cloth.

So let Mock be content with advancing further than the other two first-team AAs. And hopefully raising the big trophy Monday.

Mock's Pannell-free dropoff seems more dramatic if 30+3=43 but it doesn't. Was this a math error or a typo in his 2011 goals?

Jeff Hopkins '82
Let's hope the snub is a little incentive for the weekend.

I would hope he and the rest already have all the incentive they need. It's championship weekend.

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billhoward
If we had an all-round attackman on the second or third team snubbed by the elevation of a goals-oriented attackman, we would make the same argument in favor of our all-rounder. The voters may have seen a player whose production fell off in the 2012 season without Pannell feeding him.

Steve Mock career stats 
2103	59G	9G	68pts	16 games, before NCAA semis
2012	23G	6A	29pts	No Pannell
2011	30G	3A	43pts	
2010	21G	2A	23pts	Play 13G, start 2

There are already All-America slots for the faceoff specialist and long-stick midfielder. Maybe there should be one for pure goal scoring. The combination of two complementary players, Pannell and Mock, or McEneneany and French 1975-76 (only 2 varsity years overlapped), was more deadly that two attackman cut from the same cloth.

So let Mock be content with advancing further than the other two first-team AAs. And hopefully raising the big trophy Monday.

Mock's Pannell-free dropoff seems more dramatic if 30+3=43 but it doesn't. Was this a math error or a typo in his 2011 goals?

His bio page on the Cornell site says 40 goals, 3 assists.

[www.cornellbigred.com]

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Jeff Hopkins '82
Let's hope the snub is a little incentive for the weekend.

I would hope he and the rest already have all the incentive they need. It's championship weekend.

Every little bit helps.

Mock had 40 not 30 goals as a sophomore then with Panell out it fell to 23 as a junior and this year he is pushing 60. It may be that Pannell's amazing feeds allow Mock to be all he can be.

Pannell named USILA Division I Awards: Rob Pannell Named Player of the Year.

To close out the 2013 season...Pannell wins a couple of Inside Lacrosse's "Laxies:"

[www.insidelacrosse.com]

For whatever that's worth.

I guess lacrosse players have to work hard to get into the Olympics.