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NCAA Lacrosse Quarterfinals vs UVA

Posted by phillysportsfan 
NCAA Lacrosse Quarterfinals vs UVA
Posted by: phillysportsfan (---.cable.mindspring.com)
Date: May 14, 2011 11:45PM

[cornellbigred.com]

tickets from Cornell's allotment available starting Tuesday at 1pm
Edited 4 time(s). Last edit at 05/19/2011 05:22PM by phillysportsfan.
 
Re: NCAA Lacrosse Quarterfinals
Posted by: Greenberg '97 (---.dyn.optonline.net)
Date: May 15, 2011 12:42AM

phillysportsfan
Its a shame Cornell doesnt have a bus or anything going but I guess most students are gone by then

Most students are back on Long Island by then whistle
 
Re: NCAA Lacrosse Quarterfinals
Posted by: Beeeej (Moderator)
Date: May 15, 2011 12:02PM

Anybody have an idea of what time the QF game will be on Saturday?

 
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Re: NCAA Lacrosse Quarterfinals
Posted by: jeff '84 (---.dyn.optonline.net)
Date: May 15, 2011 12:36PM

Noon, I believe.
 
Re: NCAA Lacrosse Quarterfinals
Posted by: kingpin248 (---.dyn.optonline.net)
Date: May 15, 2011 12:40PM

jeff '84
Noon, I believe.

It was originally announced as noon, but the ESPN graphics yesterday said noon or 2:30, and the bracket says the same thing.

 
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Re: NCAA Lacrosse Quarterfinals
Posted by: David Harding (---.hsd1.il.comcast.net)
Date: May 15, 2011 12:41PM

Beeeej
Anybody have an idea of what time the QF game will be on Saturday?
The Hofstra web site says 12:00 noon (EDT). As I write this, the NCAA bracket only says 12:00/2:30 PM, though they have specified teams for the Sunday time slots.
 
Re: NCAA Lacrosse Quarterfinals
Posted by: David Harding (---.hsd1.il.comcast.net)
Date: May 15, 2011 07:49PM

Beeeej
Anybody have an idea of what time the QF game will be on Saturday?
NCAA bracket now shows Cornell-UVA at noon.
 
Re: NCAA Lacrosse Quarterfinals
Posted by: Al DeFlorio (---.hsd1.ma.comcast.net)
Date: May 15, 2011 07:52PM

David Harding
Beeeej
Anybody have an idea of what time the QF game will be on Saturday?
NCAA bracket now shows Cornell-UVA at noon.
As did recent ESPNU graphic.

 
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Re: NCAA Lacrosse Quarterfinals vs UVA
Posted by: Swampy (---.ri.ri.cox.net)
Date: May 16, 2011 11:12AM

Now more about the game. While I would have preferred another battle of the 'nells, I actually think UVa is slightly better for our boys. The Big Red are firing on almost all cylinders now, and this match-up gives us a chance to make up for one of our two losses. We've gained personnel since that game, while UVa has lost some. Although UVa had something to prove after losing the Brattons, that motivation may be getting old. Compared to Bucknell, UVa does have the name, but we're not exactly chopped liver either. I don't think there's any chance our guys will be awestruck at UVa being Big Boyz.

On the other hand, we will have to play better than we did against Hartford. Take better care of the ball on clears, and run through those ground balls. Nonetheless, I really like what we did on faceoffs. And A.J. was solid in goal. The way to Baltimore is paved with a few spectacular saves and doing 50% or better on faceoffs.
 
Re: NCAA Lacrosse Quarterfinals vs UVA
Posted by: Al DeFlorio (---.hsd1.ma.comcast.net)
Date: May 16, 2011 09:18PM

ESPNU is having a quarterfinals preview show tonight (Monday) at 10pm. Details here in the Post-Standard:

[blog.syracuse.com]

 
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Re: NCAA Lacrosse Quarterfinals vs UVA
Posted by: Al DeFlorio (---.hsd1.ma.comcast.net)
Date: May 16, 2011 09:24PM

Latest on the Rhamel Bratton situation in the Baltimore Sun:

[weblogs.baltimoresun.com]

I'll be very surprised if he doesn't play.

 
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Re: NCAA Lacrosse Quarterfinals vs UVA
Posted by: ugarte (---.dyn.optonline.net)
Date: May 16, 2011 09:40PM

Al DeFlorio
Latest on the Rhamel Bratton situation in the Baltimore Sun:

[weblogs.baltimoresun.com]

I'll be very surprised if he doesn't play.
Since they straight-up kicked his brother off the team, I get the sense that the discipline isn't just gamesmanship. If I had to guess, RB is under some very strict behavioral rules and hoping like hell that he complies so they can put him back in the lineup but won't if he doesn't.

 
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Re: NCAA Lacrosse Quarterfinals vs UVA
Posted by: Jeff Hopkins '82 (---.64.uzpak.uz)
Date: May 16, 2011 09:54PM

Al DeFlorio
Latest on the Rhamel Bratton situation in the Baltimore Sun:

[weblogs.baltimoresun.com]

I'll be very surprised if he doesn't play.

Shocking whistle
 
Re: NCAA Lacrosse Quarterfinals vs UVA
Posted by: semsox (152.51.48.---)
Date: May 17, 2011 11:33AM

Al DeFlorio
Latest on the Rhamel Bratton situation in the Baltimore Sun:

[weblogs.baltimoresun.com]

I'll be very surprised if he doesn't play.

Prepare to be surprised. Won't be activated this weekend, per Starsia.

[insidelacrosse.com]
 
Re: NCAA Lacrosse Quarterfinals vs UVA
Posted by: scoop85 (173.84.100.---)
Date: May 17, 2011 12:09PM

semsox
Al DeFlorio
Latest on the Rhamel Bratton situation in the Baltimore Sun:

[weblogs.baltimoresun.com]

I'll be very surprised if he doesn't play.

Prepare to be surprised. Won't be activated this weekend, per Starsia.

[insidelacrosse.com]

I am surprised -- but credit to Starsia for doing what he thinks is right for both the team and the player.
 
Re: NCAA Lacrosse Quarterfinals vs UVA
Posted by: phillysportsfan (---.cable.mindspring.com)
Date: May 17, 2011 12:16PM

He said he has academic issues though, maybe he is ineligible and they couldnt get him to play even if they wanted to?
 
Re: NCAA Lacrosse Quarterfinals vs UVA
Posted by: Al DeFlorio (---.hsd1.ma.comcast.net)
Date: May 17, 2011 02:46PM

phillysportsfan
He said he has academic issues though, maybe he is ineligible and they couldnt get him to play even if they wanted to?
That's what it sounds like, although it isn't really clear from Starsia's comment. The decision may have been out of his hands.

 
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Re: NCAA Lacrosse Quarterfinals vs UVA
Posted by: Swampy (---.ri.ri.cox.net)
Date: May 17, 2011 02:53PM

Al DeFlorio
phillysportsfan
He said he has academic issues though, maybe he is ineligible and they couldnt get him to play even if they wanted to?
That's what it sounds like, although it isn't really clear from Starsia's comment. The decision may have been out of his hands.

Probably some ornery professor (maybe even a Cornell alum) won't change Bratton's grade to make him eligible.
 
Re: NCAA Lacrosse Quarterfinals vs UVA
Posted by: Al DeFlorio (---.hsd1.ma.comcast.net)
Date: May 19, 2011 03:31PM

Lotta love for Cornell in this discussion (maybe too much): [espn.go.com]

Hope they're right.=]

 
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Re: NCAA Lacrosse Quarterfinals vs UVA
Posted by: Redscore (---.axsne.net)
Date: May 19, 2011 04:10PM

Al DeFlorio
Lotta love for Cornell in this discussion (maybe too much): [espn.go.com]

Hope they're right.=]

How can they be right?
Danielle Bernstein picks Hopkins, Maryland, Duke and Cornell for the final four and then later picks Hopkins versus Syracuse for the final. Woweee! That must take some doing. And then Zach Babo says the list for potential impact players is long, so he's going to stick with Seniors - for Cornell, Rob Pannell....and then for Virgina, Steele Stanwick.... Zach, these are Juniors!
A good read but is anybody awake?
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 05/19/2011 04:12PM by Redscore.
 
Re: NCAA Lacrosse Quarterfinals vs UVA
Posted by: phillysportsfan (---.cable.mindspring.com)
Date: May 21, 2011 12:50PM

uhhh this doesnt look good 6-4 UVA 7:30 left Q2, defense not looking good and offense hasnt scored in 10min
 
Re: NCAA Lacrosse Quarterfinals vs UVA
Posted by: phillysportsfan (---.cable.mindspring.com)
Date: May 21, 2011 12:56PM

damn, this is getting out of hand 8-4 UVA
 
Re: NCAA Lacrosse Quarterfinals vs UVA
Posted by: Rita (---.hsd1.fl.comcast.net)
Date: May 21, 2011 12:56PM

phillysportsfan
uhhh this doesnt look good 6-4 UVA 7:30 left Q2, defense not looking good and offense hasnt scored in 10min

Yeah, big momentum shift from the beginning of the game. However, from what I gather, this is LAX and to paraphrase a Sportscenter anchor, "anyone can make a run". Though it would help if we could get the ball down to the other end of the field. 8-4 with just under 4 min left in the 1st half.
 
Re: NCAA Lacrosse Quarterfinals vs UVA
Posted by: Redscore (---.hsd1.ma.comcast.net)
Date: May 21, 2011 01:00PM

4-9 now Ugly!
 
Re: NCAA Lacrosse Quarterfinals vs UVA
Posted by: Al DeFlorio (---.hsd1.ma.comcast.net)
Date: May 21, 2011 01:02PM

Offense can't handle the junk defenses and Virginia's ball movement and off-ball movement have been remarkable. Complete reversal from the 2009 semi-final.

 
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Re: NCAA Lacrosse Quarterfinals vs UVA
Posted by: phillysportsfan (---.cable.mindspring.com)
Date: May 21, 2011 01:06PM

10-4 at the half, defense getting shredded
 
Re: NCAA Lacrosse Quarterfinals vs UVA
Posted by: Cornell95 (---.sub-174-252-55.myvzw.com)
Date: May 21, 2011 01:15PM

That shot off the post would have been a timely goal
At the X uva seems to be improving as well
I would expect some fo variety in the 2nd and the big question is whether coach goes to West in goal (more to wake up D than a statement on AJ's play)
 
Re: NCAA Lacrosse Quarterfinals vs UVA
Posted by: Cornell95 (---.sub-174-252-55.myvzw.com)
Date: May 21, 2011 01:44PM

11-7 uva lead end of 3rd
 
Re: NCAA Lacrosse Quarterfinals vs UVA
Posted by: Cornell95 (---.sub-174-252-55.myvzw.com)
Date: May 21, 2011 01:59PM

12-7 uva lead with 9:27 left in 4th
Cornell fails to capitalize on unsettled situation during failed UVA clear
 
Re: NCAA Lacrosse Quarterfinals vs UVA
Posted by: Cornell95 (---.sub-174-252-55.myvzw.com)
Date: May 21, 2011 02:16PM

12-9 1min remaining
 
Re: NCAA Lacrosse Quarterfinals vs UVA
Posted by: phillysportsfan (---.cable.mindspring.com)
Date: May 21, 2011 02:19PM

13-9 final, really disappointing result considering the streak we were on
 
Re: NCAA Lacrosse Quarterfinals vs UVA
Posted by: Rita (---.hsd1.fl.comcast.net)
Date: May 21, 2011 02:23PM

That big fat 0 in the 2nd quarter really hurt, especially when put against Virginia's 9 straight goals. Ouch.
 
Re: NCAA Lacrosse Quarterfinals vs UVA
Posted by: ebilmes (---.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net)
Date: May 21, 2011 02:24PM

Really thought we could have made a game of it in the 2nd half. We had so many chances to cut the lead to three, but couldn't do that until the game was practically over. Just inexcusable to give up 9 unanswered goals and go more than 22 minutes without scoring.
 
Re: NCAA Lacrosse Quarterfinals vs UVA
Posted by: Towerroad (---.bstnma.fios.verizon.net)
Date: May 21, 2011 02:57PM

Well, that was disappointing but let's remember where we started. At the beginning of the season there were lots and lots of questions about this team?

1. Can Cornell survive the loss of Tambroni - Yes!
2. Can Deluca make his mark on this team? - Yes!
3. Can we play defense - Yes!
4. Can we score - Yes!
5. Can we play at the X - Mixed but we did well today.

I really like watching this team particularly when there is a loose ball.

So a very big THANK YOU SENIORS for 4 great years of Cornell Lax. You have restored Cornell to the elite of College Lax.

Remember, this was the rebuilding year!
 
Re: NCAA Lacrosse Quarterfinals vs UVA
Posted by: Al DeFlorio (---.hsd1.ma.comcast.net)
Date: May 21, 2011 03:06PM

I've been hearing that Starsia is going to step down after this year. When I saw during the Bucknell game that he needed one more win to tie Emmer and two to pass him, it caused me to worry. The late UVA rally to beat Bucknell and their superb game plan and execution today, plus the announcers' comments about never having seen Starsia so emotional during a game, tell me there was a lot of additional motivation for the team--above and beyond the obvious Bratton situation.

Great season. Difficult finish. On to next year.

 
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Re: NCAA Lacrosse Quarterfinals vs UVA
Posted by: arugula (---.c3-0.avec-ubr2.nyr-avec.ny.cable.rcn.com)
Date: May 21, 2011 03:15PM

In the huddle after the game, Dom Starsia got his team to chant "Virginia (garbled garbled) Cornell." Anyone know what he was saying?
 
Re: NCAA Lacrosse Quarterfinals vs UVA
Posted by: phillysportsfan (---.cable.mindspring.com)
Date: May 21, 2011 03:24PM

After looking at the replay, it sounded like Virginia run on Cornell?


Also watching this JHU Denver game, does Tierney ever stop whining? I guess they call him the Coach K of lacrosse according to the announcers for a reason. I hope JHU wins
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 05/21/2011 03:29PM by phillysportsfan.
 
Re: NCAA Lacrosse Quarterfinals vs UVA
Posted by: TimV (---.hsd1.ma.comcast.net)
Date: May 21, 2011 03:33PM

So Syracuse is now relieved that they won't have to face us in the final, if they get there.

Tough way to go out. Can't see why DeLuca didn't sub out Fiore during the nine-goal run, at least temporarily. What goalie has a weak spot on the high stick side??? Some of those were defensive faults, but still, with Stanwick posted up and stalemated by Feely, he leaps upward to shoot- and those shots are rarely low or bounce shots- Fiore's gotta save those. After the midpoint of that run, seemed like the D lost confidence in their slides and just didn't play the pressuring game that they had such success with all year. Offense missed a lot of shots, but they always have. More critical today since they had less possession time.

On the positive side, we lose only 3 seniors with significant minutes. Feely on D, with good replacements already on the roster in Keith and Freshour; Lau at attack with a ton of backups- Gillum, Bremner, Austin, Taylor, and Thompson; and Dudly, backed up by Tesiriero, Restaino, and Levine. Shane O'Neil also goes. He's usually not as bad as he was today, but he's not as key as the other three either, being junior Langton's backup.

Also, loved the new gear - clean red and white - no black. And red facemasks. Haven't seen that before on any team.

 
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Re: NCAA Lacrosse Quarterfinals vs UVA
Posted by: Ben (---.cable.mindspring.com)
Date: May 21, 2011 05:40PM

Pretty disappointing way to end the season. Credit to UVA, they played well on offence and defence, and their goalie was stopping almost everything we threw at him. We looked decent from faceoffs, but the attack was just out of sync after the early minutes. I thought DeLuca should have pulled Fiore after the seventh or eighth goal.

An aside: the in-stadium announcers were terrible. One guy insisted on giving running statistics throughout the whole game, and the other one wouldn't shut up during stoppages, so the band kept having to wait before playing. Also, did anyone watching in TV see someone waving a Cornell flag? (I'd like to know if I've had my 3 seconds of fame.)
 
Re: NCAA Lacrosse Quarterfinals vs UVA
Posted by: phillysportsfan (---.cable.mindspring.com)
Date: May 21, 2011 05:49PM

Yeah they showed the guy with the Cornell flag at least once, the replay is up on espn3.com
 
Re: NCAA Lacrosse Quarterfinals vs UVA
Posted by: Al DeFlorio (---.hsd1.ma.comcast.net)
Date: May 21, 2011 09:45PM

TimV
Also, loved the new gear - clean red and white - no black.
Agree wholeheartedly. Wish we'd drop the black trim around the numbers on football jerseys, too. The red, however, seemed a little off. More like cherry than the usual Cornell red.

 
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Re: NCAA Lacrosse Quarterfinals vs UVA
Posted by: TimV (---.hsd1.ma.comcast.net)
Date: May 21, 2011 10:57PM

There's a fun setting on your flat screen for that Al- look for tint. I like to make Harvard uniforms look cyan. nut

 
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Re: NCAA Lacrosse Quarterfinals vs UVA
Posted by: Al DeFlorio (---.hsd1.ma.comcast.net)
Date: May 21, 2011 11:00PM

TimV
There's a fun setting on your flat screen for that Al- look for tint. I like to make Harvard uniforms look cyan. nut
Right. But the "new" red differs from the "old" red, and it doesn't look like Cornell.

 
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Re: NCAA Lacrosse Quarterfinals vs UVA
Posted by: phillysportsfan (---.cable.mindspring.com)
Date: May 22, 2011 12:18AM

Why would they change uniforms now in the 2nd round of the tournament? arent most athletes/coaches superstitious?
 
Re: NCAA Lacrosse Quarterfinals vs UVA
Posted by: Greenberg '97 (---.nyc.gov)
Date: May 22, 2011 03:20AM

phillysportsfan
Why would they change uniforms now in the 2nd round of the tournament? arent most athletes/coaches superstitious?

Why would a team switch from man-to-man to zone defense in the 2nd quarter of a tournament game? That just seems... oh, never mind.
 
Re: NCAA Lacrosse Quarterfinals vs UVA
Posted by: Roy 82 (128.18.14.---)
Date: May 22, 2011 04:39AM

arugula
In the huddle after the game, Dom Starsia got his team to chant "Virginia (garbled garbled) Cornell." Anyone know what he was saying?

I thought it sounded something like "We love Cornell". Probably not correct but obviously it was some good sportsmanlike thing.
 
Re: NCAA Lacrosse Quarterfinals vs UVA
Posted by: phillysportsfan (---.cable.mindspring.com)
Date: May 22, 2011 10:15AM

Roy 82
arugula
In the huddle after the game, Dom Starsia got his team to chant "Virginia (garbled garbled) Cornell." Anyone know what he was saying?

I thought it sounded something like "We love Cornell". Probably not correct but obviously it was some good sportsmanlike thing.

Yeah but they said Virginia something something Cornell
 
Re: NCAA Lacrosse Quarterfinals vs UVA
Posted by: phillysportsfan (---.cable.mindspring.com)
Date: May 22, 2011 10:18AM

Greenberg '97
phillysportsfan
Why would they change uniforms now in the 2nd round of the tournament? arent most athletes/coaches superstitious?

Why would a team switch from man-to-man to zone defense in the 2nd quarter of a tournament game? That just seems... oh, never mind.

Huh? That is an in game adjustment. Just seems weird to me to wait till the 2nd round of the tournament to change uniforms, why not wait till next year
 
Re: NCAA Lacrosse Quarterfinals vs UVA
Posted by: Ben (---.cable.mindspring.com)
Date: May 22, 2011 11:00AM

phillysportsfan
Greenberg '97
phillysportsfan
Why would they change uniforms now in the 2nd round of the tournament? arent most athletes/coaches superstitious?

Why would a team switch from man-to-man to zone defense in the 2nd quarter of a tournament game? That just seems... oh, never mind.

Huh? That is an in game adjustment. Just seems weird to me to wait till the 2nd round of the tournament to change uniforms, why not wait till next year
Nike probably wanted to get the image of the new uniforms out there, hoping that a Cornell win would help sales. Soccer teams usually wear their jerseys for the following season for a few games before the end of the current one.
 
Re: NCAA Lacrosse Quarterfinals vs UVA
Posted by: scoop85 (---.hvc.res.rr.com)
Date: May 22, 2011 11:08AM

phillysportsfan
Why would they change uniforms now in the 2nd round of the tournament? arent most athletes/coaches superstitious?

I said that in the stands when the game began -- where's the silly "C" on the back? Why change now?
 
Re: NCAA Lacrosse Quarterfinals vs UVA
Posted by: Rita (---.hsd1.fl.comcast.net)
Date: May 22, 2011 01:28PM

scoop85
phillysportsfan
Why would they change uniforms now in the 2nd round of the tournament? arent most athletes/coaches superstitious?

I said that in the stands when the game began -- where's the silly "C" on the back? Why change now?

Since we are playing "fashion police", I just tuned into the Syracuse - MD game and a lot of the Orangemen have very bright yellow high top "cleats"(?). I don't remember them from the game last week, though I admit, I tuned in/out of the game v. Siena. I think I would have noticed them, because they are that bright yellow that I would expect on a certain college team from Eugene, Oregon.

BTW, Syracuse just pulled within 1 with 1:46 left in the 3rd.
 
Re: NCAA Lacrosse Quarterfinals vs UVA
Posted by: phillysportsfan (---.cable.mindspring.com)
Date: May 22, 2011 02:08PM

Well at least Syracuse lost
 
Re: NCAA Lacrosse Quarterfinals vs UVA
Posted by: Rita (---.hsd1.fl.comcast.net)
Date: May 22, 2011 02:11PM

phillysportsfan
Well at least Syracuse lost

It must have been the shoes. Maybe Duke will also have new unis for their game.
 
Re: NCAA Lacrosse Quarterfinals vs UVA
Posted by: arugula (---.friedmanwolf.com)
Date: May 22, 2011 02:18PM

I assume it wasn't anything obnoxious, but still curious...
 
Re: NCAA Lacrosse Quarterfinals vs UVA
Posted by: arugula (---.friedmanwolf.com)
Date: May 22, 2011 02:19PM

phillysportsfan
Roy 82
arugula
In the huddle after the game, Dom Starsia got his team to chant "Virginia (garbled garbled) Cornell." Anyone know what he was saying?

I thought it sounded something like "We love Cornell". Probably not correct but obviously it was some good sportsmanlike thing.

Yeah but they said Virginia something something Cornell

I assume it wasn't anything obnoxious, but still curious...
 
Re: NCAA Lacrosse Quarterfinals vs UVA
Posted by: arugula (---.friedmanwolf.com)
Date: May 22, 2011 02:20PM

Ben
phillysportsfan
Greenberg '97
phillysportsfan
Why would they change uniforms now in the 2nd round of the tournament? arent most athletes/coaches superstitious?

Why would a team switch from man-to-man to zone defense in the 2nd quarter of a tournament game? That just seems... oh, never mind.

Huh? That is an in game adjustment. Just seems weird to me to wait till the 2nd round of the tournament to change uniforms, why not wait till next year
Nike probably wanted to get the image of the new uniforms out there, hoping that a Cornell win would help sales. Soccer teams usually wear their jerseys for the following season for a few games before the end of the current one.

Doesn't Nike usually ADD black to unis?
 
Re: NCAA Lacrosse Quarterfinals vs UVA
Posted by: Jim Hyla (---.twcny.res.rr.com)
Date: May 22, 2011 03:11PM

phillysportsfan
Well at least Syracuse lost
And you were cheering for Maryland and the ACC? Oh well.

 
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Re: NCAA Lacrosse Quarterfinals vs UVA
Posted by: phillysportsfan (---.cable.mindspring.com)
Date: May 22, 2011 03:31PM

Yeah it is hard to root for any of the remaining teams but Maryland hasnt won a championship in awhile, Syracuse won 2 recently including 1 that should have been ours
 
Re: NCAA Lacrosse Quarterfinals vs UVA
Posted by: Al DeFlorio (---.hsd1.ma.comcast.net)
Date: May 22, 2011 03:49PM

arugula
Ben
phillysportsfan
Greenberg '97
phillysportsfan
Why would they change uniforms now in the 2nd round of the tournament? arent most athletes/coaches superstitious?

Why would a team switch from man-to-man to zone defense in the 2nd quarter of a tournament game? That just seems... oh, never mind.

Huh? That is an in game adjustment. Just seems weird to me to wait till the 2nd round of the tournament to change uniforms, why not wait till next year
Nike probably wanted to get the image of the new uniforms out there, hoping that a Cornell win would help sales. Soccer teams usually wear their jerseys for the following season for a few games before the end of the current one.

Doesn't Nike usually ADD black to unis?
Looks like Duke's wearing a royal blue version of the uni Cornell wore yesterday. Again, no black. We'll see if the new uni jinx befalls Duke, too.

 
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Re: NCAA Lacrosse Quarterfinals vs UVA
Posted by: tretiak (---.resnet.ucsb.edu)
Date: May 22, 2011 05:02PM

For those still wondering, it's "Virginia rah rah Cornell". Just a simple cheer at the end of the game to recognize the opponent. Nothing to see here, folks.
 
Re: NCAA Lacrosse Quarterfinals - four top seeds go down
Posted by: billhoward (---.hsd1.nj.comcast.net)
Date: May 22, 2011 06:07PM

Seeds 1-2-3-4 lost in the QFs so No. 2 Cornell has company. Syracuse's orange-yellow shoes and socks perhaps presaged a nickname change to the Fighting Ducks? (One time I will not praise high-def.) I feel a little bad all the NYS teams are out of the playoffs; with CU ouit it made me unsure whether to root for Maryland or Syracause. There is a Cornell connection in the final four with the Terps coach John Tillman Hotel '91. Much as we love to hate Duke, Danowski (father) has shown what he can do at the highest level after all those years at Hofstra. Bill Tierney did an amazing job to take Denver to the final four; hey, nice guys can finish first (and so can the other types). Before Denver, I'm trying to recall how many FF teams in the NCAA's 40 years of lax tournaments have been from outside the Eastern time zone (Notre Dame and South Bend is at the very western edge of ET). Maryland's plodding attack does not make the Terps look like a team that will win it all.

Maybe we're bitter from Cornell going down (and still playing what-if about Bucknell not taking down Virginia the week before), but over the weekend's broadcasts I thought I sensed the announcer's desire to see bad breaks or human interest from the southern schools' POV and a lot of talk time went to lamenting how bad Maryland must have felt being unseeded going in to the tourney just because they had four losses going in including the season finale to Colgate. Quint Kessenich and Eamon McEenaneney (announcer) pale in comparison to Mike Emrick calling the Stanley Cup playoffs. Also fascinating to see Quint backpedal quickly from the previous two weeks when he and others declared Rob Pannell the best attackman of the decade and the Tewaaraton already decided. Not that it makes a huge difference either who wins compared to our not being in the FF. The Tewaaraton shouldn't be decided based on one game, but it might. Steele Stanwick, the only one of the five finalists to make the FF, looked great vs. Cornell. Others have noted this was supposed to be a rebuilding year for Cornell and we should be happy we got this far. I suppose so. Meanwhile, who else was at the the 1977 title game at Viginia [edit fixing year: 1976 & 1977 we won, 1978 we lost the title game] ... and who then would have suspected 1977 would have been the last time Cornell hoisted an NCAA team championship trophy in any of the sports we care so much about?

Fascinating to see what the final lax poll will look like.
Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 05/22/2011 08:45PM by billhoward.
 
Re: NCAA Lacrosse Quarterfinals - four top seeds go down
Posted by: Al DeFlorio (---.hsd1.ma.comcast.net)
Date: May 22, 2011 08:05PM

Bill, I think I was in Charlottesville in 1977 when Cornell won its last one, unless you're aware of another that I'm not.;-)

 
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Re: NCAA Lacrosse Quarterfinals - four top seeds go down
Posted by: billhoward (---.hsd1.nj.comcast.net)
Date: May 22, 2011 08:44PM

Of course you're right. In 1978 we played Hopkins for the title at Rutgers (and they reversed the previous year's outcome). The back to back titles were 1976 and 1977, the senior years respectively for French and McEneaney. And then it was a decade to Cornell's next title appearances (1987, 1988), and then two decades (2009). My fondest recall is, at the end of OT vs. Maryland in 1976, when we gave up the first goal and then rolled up a commanding lead (in OT before this stupid sudden victory stuff) and in the waning moments McEneaney got a 2-on-1 fast break and it was a thing of beauty for Cornellians and hopelessness for the Terps to see McEneaney pass off to French for the score.
 
Re: NCAA Lacrosse Quarterfinals vs UVA
Posted by: Ben (---.cable.mindspring.com)
Date: May 23, 2011 01:29AM

Just to go back to the game for a moment, I thought the turning point was the shot that Ghitleman picked up off the line in the middle of the second quarter. I think it was 4-6 or 4-7 at that point, and getting a goal back would have been huge. I was sitting nearer our goal, but it looked very close to being over. Oh, what could have been....
 
Re: NCAA Lacrosse Quarterfinals vs UVA
Posted by: Swampy (131.128.72.---)
Date: May 23, 2011 01:12PM

Ben
Just to go back to the game for a moment, I thought the turning point was the shot that Ghitleman picked up off the line in the middle of the second quarter. I think it was 4-6 or 4-7 at that point, and getting a goal back would have been huge. I was sitting nearer our goal, but it looked very close to being over. Oh, what could have been....

Maybe, but our first four goals came off of several UVa miscues. Once they settled down, our defense looked terrible, and our offense looked as if it did not know how to attack the zone. UVa clearly outplayed and outcoached us.

As Ben said, we had real bad luck in the offensive zone, but good teams make their own luck. As is, we came back to make the score respectable. Hopefully, next year the team will be more mature (physically, mentally, working together, working at this high level, and in coaching) and live up to the advanced billing that the preseason favorites will be Duke, JHU, and us. Hopefully Harvard, Penn, and Princeton will be better and give us better preparation (but we'll still be the favorite to win the Ivies). Hopefully the schedule will include a few more elite teams to help us prepare.

In the last few weeks we did seem to address our problems at faceoffs, and with four goalies we should be able to address that too. (I like Fiore, but hope he improves his game on high shots, clears, and becomes a bit quicker.) And besides the obvious studs like Connor Buczek, with Cornell's approach of recruiting our style of players, who knows what diamonds-in-the-rough will come off this year's bench or next year's frosh.

Next year's team should be even better.banana
 
Re: NCAA Lacrosse Quarterfinals vs UVA
Posted by: Josh '99 (---.net)
Date: May 23, 2011 02:08PM

Swampy
In the last few weeks we did seem to address our problems at faceoffs...
Tesoriero did look really solid on Saturday, maybe one silver lining to come out of it anyway.
 
Re: NCAA Lacrosse Quarterfinals vs UVA
Posted by: billhoward (---.hsd1.nj.comcast.net)
Date: May 23, 2011 06:13PM

"Good teams make their own luck." The opposite also rings true, that luck makes good outcomes for teams. Maybe we had more bad luck, or bad bounces, than on the typical Saturday this past spring. At least after that amazingly lucky-for-Cornell Virginia givaway for our first goal (didn't Quinnipiac do something equally horrible in the mid-2000s against us in NCAA first round hockey?). But some of our pipe shots would've gone in.

We could have beaten Virginia Sunday if this was a best of two (three) series. We were good enough, just not on Saturday. And we were not alone in having a crappy quarterfinal game.

Did anyone else have the same feeling as last year vs. Notre Dame, that the Cornell team felt it had the skill and the time to catch up and then, oops, all of a sudden the margin was too much and the time too little. On the rebroadcast, I heard the announcers talking about how Lau (?) wanted to drive for the goal while Pannell was more laid back, and Kessenich (?) said, "The time is now." For all the silly platitudes we heard (how many times "worm burner"?), that was right on.
 
Re: NCAA Lacrosse Quarterfinals vs UVA - why so quiet?
Posted by: billhoward (---.hsd1.nj.comcast.net)
Date: May 24, 2011 09:21AM

The forum is taking this loss pretty stoically. Because it's lacrosse not hockey? Because Virginia plain-out whupped us and we can't think of enough if-onlys to make up a four-goal margin? And the heart of the team returns in 2012, so there always is next year. In the meantime, we're likely to have one of the lowest-rated incoming classes (proving only the value of those lists) although we'll still be on everyone's radar.

I suppose we should feel sorry for our neighbors to the north and their Class of 2011 that only made two final fours and, uh, two titles, IIRC. Maybe the Syracuse seniors get to keep the orange-yellow socks and shoes.

Who should we root for this weekend? Starsia and Virginia because the man is a class act and Ivy Leaguer (Brown) or Maryland and Cornellian coach John Tillman? Denver to show the lax establishment how the sport has changed again, just as those Cornell teams 1970-77 showed the Mint Julep lax crowd that the center of the sport had shifted north? (Plus we all love Bill Tierney.) Or the Ivy League of the South and Duke? Which has a pretty decent coach in Danowski. I don't think Maryland showed enough last weekend to be the winner and Denver has got to fall to earth sometime. If this is Starsia's finale, maybe he deserves to go out on top.
 
Re: NCAA Lacrosse Quarterfinals vs UVA - why so quiet?
Posted by: Josh '99 (---.nyc.res.rr.com)
Date: May 24, 2011 10:00AM

billhoward
Seeds 1-2-3-4 lost in the QFs so No. 2 Cornell has company. Syracuse's orange-yellow shoes and socks perhaps presaged a nickname change to the Fighting Ducks? (One time I will not praise high-def.) I feel a little bad all the NYS teams are out of the playoffs; with CU ouit it made me unsure whether to root for Maryland or Syracause. There is a Cornell connection in the final four with the Terps coach John Tillman Hotel '91. Much as we love to hate Duke, Danowski (father) has shown what he can do at the highest level after all those years at Hofstra. Bill Tierney did an amazing job to take Denver to the final four; hey, nice guys can finish first (and so can the other types). Before Denver, I'm trying to recall how many FF teams in the NCAA's 40 years of lax tournaments have been from outside the Eastern time zone (Notre Dame and South Bend is at the very western edge of ET). Maryland's plodding attack does not make the Terps look like a team that will win it all.

Maybe we're bitter from Cornell going down (and still playing what-if about Bucknell not taking down Virginia the week before), but over the weekend's broadcasts I thought I sensed the announcer's desire to see bad breaks or human interest from the southern schools' POV and a lot of talk time went to lamenting how bad Maryland must have felt being unseeded going in to the tourney just because they had four losses going in including the season finale to Colgate. Quint Kessenich and Eamon McEenaneney (announcer) pale in comparison to Mike Emrick calling the Stanley Cup playoffs. Also fascinating to see Quint backpedal quickly from the previous two weeks when he and others declared Rob Pannell the best attackman of the decade and the Tewaaraton already decided. Not that it makes a huge difference either who wins compared to our not being in the FF. The Tewaaraton shouldn't be decided based on one game, but it might. Steele Stanwick, the only one of the five finalists to make the FF, looked great vs. Cornell. Others have noted this was supposed to be a rebuilding year for Cornell and we should be happy we got this far. I suppose so. Meanwhile, who else was at the the 1977 title game at Viginia [edit fixing year: 1976 & 1977 we won, 1978 we lost the title game] ... and who then would have suspected 1977 would have been the last time Cornell hoisted an NCAA team championship trophy in any of the sports we care so much about?

Fascinating to see what the final lax poll will look like.
billhoward
"Good teams make their own luck." The opposite also rings true, that luck makes good outcomes for teams. Maybe we had more bad luck, or bad bounces, than on the typical Saturday this past spring. At least after that amazingly lucky-for-Cornell Virginia givaway for our first goal (didn't Quinnipiac do something equally horrible in the mid-2000s against us in NCAA first round hockey?). But some of our pipe shots would've gone in.

We could have beaten Virginia Sunday if this was a best of two (three) series. We were good enough, just not on Saturday. And we were not alone in having a crappy quarterfinal game.

Did anyone else have the same feeling as last year vs. Notre Dame, that the Cornell team felt it had the skill and the time to catch up and then, oops, all of a sudden the margin was too much and the time too little. On the rebroadcast, I heard the announcers talking about how Lau (?) wanted to drive for the goal while Pannell was more laid back, and Kessenich (?) said, "The time is now." For all the silly platitudes we heard (how many times "worm burner"?), that was right on.
billhoward
The forum is taking this loss pretty stoically. Because it's lacrosse not hockey? Because Virginia plain-out whupped us and we can't think of enough if-onlys to make up a four-goal margin? And the heart of the team returns in 2012, so there always is next year. In the meantime, we're likely to have one of the lowest-rated incoming classes (proving only the value of those lists) although we'll still be on everyone's radar.

I suppose we should feel sorry for our neighbors to the north and their Class of 2011 that only made two final fours and, uh, two titles, IIRC. Maybe the Syracuse seniors get to keep the orange-yellow socks and shoes.

Who should we root for this weekend? Starsia and Virginia because the man is a class act and Ivy Leaguer (Brown) or Maryland and Cornellian coach John Tillman? Denver to show the lax establishment how the sport has changed again, just as those Cornell teams 1970-77 showed the Mint Julep lax crowd that the center of the sport had shifted north? (Plus we all love Bill Tierney.) Or the Ivy League of the South and Duke? Which has a pretty decent coach in Danowski. I don't think Maryland showed enough last weekend to be the winner and Denver has got to fall to earth sometime. If this is Starsia's finale, maybe he deserves to go out on top.
We're so quiet because you're using up all the internets.
 
Re: NCAA Lacrosse Quarterfinals vs UVA - why so quiet?
Posted by: Swampy (---.ri.ri.cox.net)
Date: May 24, 2011 10:28PM

billhoward
The forum is taking this loss pretty stoically. Because it's lacrosse not hockey? Because Virginia plain-out whupped us and we can't think of enough if-onlys to make up a four-goal margin? And the heart of the team returns in 2012, so there always is next year. In the meantime, we're likely to have one of the lowest-rated incoming classes (proving only the value of those lists) although we'll still be on everyone's radar.

Maybe this past weekend and a recent Memorial Day I'm trying to forget prove that those lists do have some value after all. We do great recruiting guys under the radar, developing them, and putting together a TEAM that's among the elite. But in both loses it seemed raw talent won the day.

Last weekend the announcers were saying it seemed only Lang was dodging from the midfield. Wouldn't it have been nice to have a couple of other middies posing serious scoring threats and clocking a few UVa guys on the defensive slides?

In the current NC format, we're bound to run into a team with blue-chippers at just about every position. We have our share of blue-chippers, and the rest of the team is not exactly chopped liver. But if we allow for a rotation of two offensive midfields, 4 attackers, 4 defenders, and say 5 defensive midfielders, plus a keeper, that's twenty player seeing serious playing time. If we face a team with more raw talent at say 12-14 of those positions, we will always have to play our system better than they play theirs, and we will almost never be able to win despite a sub-par performance like the one we had Saturday.

In short, we need to be the team with the better personnel at 60%+ of the positions.
 
Re: NCAA Lacrosse Quarterfinals vs UVA - why so quiet?
Posted by: CUontheslopes (---.nmmlaw.com)
Date: May 25, 2011 10:02AM

Swampy
billhoward
The forum is taking this loss pretty stoically. Because it's lacrosse not hockey? Because Virginia plain-out whupped us and we can't think of enough if-onlys to make up a four-goal margin? And the heart of the team returns in 2012, so there always is next year. In the meantime, we're likely to have one of the lowest-rated incoming classes (proving only the value of those lists) although we'll still be on everyone's radar.

Maybe this past weekend and a recent Memorial Day I'm trying to forget prove that those lists do have some value after all. We do great recruiting guys under the radar, developing them, and putting together a TEAM that's among the elite. But in both loses it seemed raw talent won the day.

Last weekend the announcers were saying it seemed only Lang was dodging from the midfield. Wouldn't it have been nice to have a couple of other middies posing serious scoring threats and clocking a few UVa guys on the defensive slides?

In the current NC format, we're bound to run into a team with blue-chippers at just about every position. We have our share of blue-chippers, and the rest of the team is not exactly chopped liver. But if we allow for a rotation of two offensive midfields, 4 attackers, 4 defenders, and say 5 defensive midfielders, plus a keeper, that's twenty player seeing serious playing time. If we face a team with more raw talent at say 12-14 of those positions, we will always have to play our system better than they play theirs, and we will almost never be able to win despite a sub-par performance like the one we had Saturday.

In short, we need to be the team with the better personnel at 60%+ of the positions.

I've been wondering this as well. I keep thinking that at some point we'll start getting those blue-chip recruits based upon our success in the past. Cornell's got to be a pretty desirable program for high school recruits. Particularly given the struggles Princeton has had in the last few years, Cornell is THE choice for a blue-chip recruit who wants to play in the Ivies and have a chance to compete for a NC.

As of yet, I'm not sure we've really seen an impactful boost to our recruiting. Someone feel free to disagree, but it seems like we're still hunting under the radar guys. Maybe our coaching staff needs to change its approach and get in the mix for some of the best recruits in hotbed areas. We're a lot more attractive than we were 10 years ago...
 
Re: NCAA Lacrosse Quarterfinals vs UVA - why so quiet?
Posted by: Jim Hyla (---.arthritishealthdoctors.com)
Date: May 25, 2011 05:04PM

CUontheslopes
Swampy
billhoward
The forum is taking this loss pretty stoically. Because it's lacrosse not hockey? Because Virginia plain-out whupped us and we can't think of enough if-onlys to make up a four-goal margin? And the heart of the team returns in 2012, so there always is next year. In the meantime, we're likely to have one of the lowest-rated incoming classes (proving only the value of those lists) although we'll still be on everyone's radar.

Maybe this past weekend and a recent Memorial Day I'm trying to forget prove that those lists do have some value after all. We do great recruiting guys under the radar, developing them, and putting together a TEAM that's among the elite. But in both loses it seemed raw talent won the day.

Last weekend the announcers were saying it seemed only Lang was dodging from the midfield. Wouldn't it have been nice to have a couple of other middies posing serious scoring threats and clocking a few UVa guys on the defensive slides?

In the current NC format, we're bound to run into a team with blue-chippers at just about every position. We have our share of blue-chippers, and the rest of the team is not exactly chopped liver. But if we allow for a rotation of two offensive midfields, 4 attackers, 4 defenders, and say 5 defensive midfielders, plus a keeper, that's twenty player seeing serious playing time. If we face a team with more raw talent at say 12-14 of those positions, we will always have to play our system better than they play theirs, and we will almost never be able to win despite a sub-par performance like the one we had Saturday.

In short, we need to be the team with the better personnel at 60%+ of the positions.

I've been wondering this as well. I keep thinking that at some point we'll start getting those blue-chip recruits based upon our success in the past. Cornell's got to be a pretty desirable program for high school recruits. Particularly given the struggles Princeton has had in the last few years, Cornell is THE choice for a blue-chip recruit who wants to play in the Ivies and have a chance to compete for a NC.

As of yet, I'm not sure we've really seen an impactful boost to our recruiting. Someone feel free to disagree, but it seems like we're still hunting under the radar guys. Maybe our coaching staff needs to change its approach and get in the mix for some of the best recruits in hotbed areas. We're a lot more attractive than we were 10 years ago...
And we have no scholarships. That can make a big difference. Most lax players don't get free rides, but they do get some support. Put that together with a more difficult curriculum, and we are never going to get the number of "best recruits" that a place like SU or Maryland, or probably even Duke can get. I don't think our coaches go out of their way to not recruit "the best". If those guys want to come and they fit into Cornell, not like some recent UVA students, they for sure will take them. I don't think we need to tell the coaches how to change their recruiting.

Princeton wasn't blessed with all the best either; they had a system and got players who would fit the system. It will be interesting to see how his recruiting continues at DU; I suspect he will have much more high profile recruiting classes than he did at PU. Easier to get students in, easier to give them money, better classes.

 
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Cornell lawyers stopped the candy throwing. Jan/2005
 
Re: NCAA Lacrosse Quarterfinals vs UVA - why so quiet?
Posted by: phillysportsfan (---.cable.mindspring.com)
Date: May 25, 2011 06:07PM

the new financial aid policy may help then as it matches all the Ivies + Duke, hopefully the school finds a way to keep that policy
 
Re: NCAA Lacrosse Quarterfinals vs UVA - why so quiet?
Posted by: phillysportsfan (---.cable.mindspring.com)
Date: May 25, 2011 07:21PM

[cornell.edu]

Sidelines interview with Richie Moran
 
Re: NCAA Lacrosse Quarterfinals vs UVA - why so quiet?
Posted by: Al DeFlorio (---.hsd1.ma.comcast.net)
Date: May 25, 2011 09:03PM

phillysportsfan
[cornell.edu]

Sidelines interview with Richie Moran
Am I crazy, or did Richie segue directly from the 1971 NCAA semifinal win over Army at West Point to the 1976 NCAA championship win over Maryland at Brown?

 
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Al DeFlorio '65
 
Re: NCAA Lacrosse Quarterfinals vs UVA - why so quiet?
Posted by: Swampy (---.ri.ri.cox.net)
Date: May 25, 2011 10:24PM

For those of you who haven't seen it, there's an interesting, more in-depth discussion of Cornell's lax recruiting on the Laxpower Cornell 2012 forum. A poster named "another fan" has a particularly interesting breakdown of the incoming class. It does look quite strong.

Two other things that stand out and are worth bearing in mind. (1) There is a difference between the published rankings and various high school AA lists versus who the top prep players actually are. (2) Lacrosse especially is a sport that can be learned and in which a player can improve tremendously in a short time with coaching tuned to the system and level of play: witness Doug Tesoriero's improvement at the X this year. The trick for any college coach is to discern a player's potential for 2-3 years down the road.

So in several sports, including our traditional focal sports and others that are quickly joining the traditional ones, we're coming close to winning the NC and have become regular contenders. We're almost there, and it's really frustrating to get so close without the cigar.

I think in lacrosse recruiting, winning one NC will put us over the hump -- both in the sense of knowing how to do it and getting a steady stream of players who can do it more than once every two decades.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 05/25/2011 10:25PM by Swampy.
 
Re: NCAA Lacrosse Quarterfinals vs UVA - why so quiet?
Posted by: Jim Hyla (---.twcny.res.rr.com)
Date: May 26, 2011 10:08PM

SU Coach Desko on the slow down in lax, as reported in The Syracuse Post-Standard. There's a podcast here.

 
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Cornell lawyers stopped the candy throwing. Jan/2005
 
Re: NCAA Lacrosse Quarterfinals vs UVA - why so quiet?
Posted by: billhoward (---.hsd1.nj.comcast.net)
Date: May 27, 2011 06:49AM

Al DeFlorio
phillysportsfan
[cornell.edu]

Sidelines interview with Richie Moran
Am I crazy, or did Richie segue directly from the 1971 NCAA semifinal win over Army at West Point to the 1976 NCAA championship win over Maryland at Brown?
Those were quiet years following the NCAA title in 1971. Imagine what Cornell could have done in 1974 with its All-America attackman Jim Trenz '74 (transfer from Penn State) and soon-to-be AA sophomore Mike French had freshmen (Eamon McEneaney) been eligible.
 
Re: NCAA Lacrosse Quarterfinals vs UVA - why so quiet?
Posted by: billhoward (---.hsd1.nj.comcast.net)
Date: May 27, 2011 07:00AM

Josh '99
We're so quiet because you're using up all the internets.
That might even better explain the skips, stalls, and image quality of the hockey broadcasts. Say, have I told you about RPI's video quality lately?
 
Re: NCAA Lacrosse - semifinals
Posted by: billhoward (---.hsd1.nj.comcast.net)
Date: May 28, 2011 10:38PM

Too bad Bucknell didn't take down Virginia and then Cornell took down Bucknell and Denver. Then the 40th anniversary of the first, 1971, NCAA title game would again have been Cornell-Maryland. Virginia looked overpowering in bringing Denver and Bill Tierney back to earth. Duke looked terrible in losing to Maryland. Maryland had a bruising defense and that same slow-paced offense as last week. Virginia looks as if it's going to make Dom Starsia a happy man Monday. Virginia 14-8 over Denver (9-2 at the half), Maryland 9-4 over Duke.
 
Re: NCAA Lacrosse - semifinals
Posted by: Swampy (---.ri.ri.cox.net)
Date: May 29, 2011 09:15AM

billhoward
Too bad Bucknell didn't take down Virginia and then Cornell took down Bucknell and Denver. Then the 40th anniversary of the first, 1971, NCAA title game would again have been Cornell-Maryland. Virginia looked overpowering in bringing Denver and Bill Tierney back to earth. Duke looked terrible in losing to Maryland. Maryland had a bruising defense and that same slow-paced offense as last week. Virginia looks as if it's going to make Dom Starsia a happy man Monday. Virginia 14-8 over Denver (9-2 at the half), Maryland 9-4 over Duke.

Or Cornell take down Virginia.

I've got to give Starsia credit though. After imposing discipline on the Bratton twins, he held Colin Briggs out of the game yesterday for violating team rules. Either UVa has become scary good, or discipline has its benefits. Maybe both. twak
 
Re: NCAA Lacrosse - semifinals
Posted by: Jim Hyla (---.twcny.res.rr.com)
Date: May 29, 2011 12:31PM

Swampy
billhoward
Too bad Bucknell didn't take down Virginia and then Cornell took down Bucknell and Denver. Then the 40th anniversary of the first, 1971, NCAA title game would again have been Cornell-Maryland. Virginia looked overpowering in bringing Denver and Bill Tierney back to earth. Duke looked terrible in losing to Maryland. Maryland had a bruising defense and that same slow-paced offense as last week. Virginia looks as if it's going to make Dom Starsia a happy man Monday. Virginia 14-8 over Denver (9-2 at the half), Maryland 9-4 over Duke.

Or Cornell take down Virginia.

I've got to give Starsia credit though. After imposing discipline on the Bratton twins, he held Colin Briggs out of the game yesterday for violating team rules. Either UVa has become scary good, or discipline has its benefits. Maybe both. twak
Or maybe one leads to another. Since the Bratton's exit was due to rules that the team voted for, having them around must have affected the team.

 
___________________________
"Cornell Fans Made the Timbers Tremble", Boston Globe, March/1970
Cornell lawyers stopped the candy throwing. Jan/2005
 
Re: NCAA Lacrosse - semifinals
Posted by: Swampy (---.ri.ri.cox.net)
Date: May 29, 2011 07:46PM

Jim Hyla
Swampy
billhoward
Too bad Bucknell didn't take down Virginia and then Cornell took down Bucknell and Denver. Then the 40th anniversary of the first, 1971, NCAA title game would again have been Cornell-Maryland. Virginia looked overpowering in bringing Denver and Bill Tierney back to earth. Duke looked terrible in losing to Maryland. Maryland had a bruising defense and that same slow-paced offense as last week. Virginia looks as if it's going to make Dom Starsia a happy man Monday. Virginia 14-8 over Denver (9-2 at the half), Maryland 9-4 over Duke.

Or Cornell take down Virginia.

I've got to give Starsia credit though. After imposing discipline on the Bratton twins, he held Colin Briggs out of the game yesterday for violating team rules. Either UVa has become scary good, or discipline has its benefits. Maybe both. twak
Or maybe one leads to another. Since the Bratton's exit was due to rules that the team voted for, having them around must have affected the team.

It's also interesting that two Ivy League grads are coaching tomorrow. Maybe there's something to this "let's put athletics in its proper place" stuff. (Now watch me eat my words when one of them is hit with a recruiting violation. The Courtney Yeardley Love tragedy did take place on Starsia's watch.)
Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 05/30/2011 09:30AM by Swampy.
 
Re: NCAA Lacrosse - semifinals
Posted by: ugarte (---.dyn.optonline.net)
Date: May 29, 2011 09:20PM

Swampy
Jim Hyla
Swampy
billhoward
Too bad Bucknell didn't take down Virginia and then Cornell took down Bucknell and Denver. Then the 40th anniversary of the first, 1971, NCAA title game would again have been Cornell-Maryland. Virginia looked overpowering in bringing Denver and Bill Tierney back to earth. Duke looked terrible in losing to Maryland. Maryland had a bruising defense and that same slow-paced offense as last week. Virginia looks as if it's going to make Dom Starsia a happy man Monday. Virginia 14-8 over Denver (9-2 at the half), Maryland 9-4 over Duke.

Or Cornell take down Virginia.

I've got to give Starsia credit though. After imposing discipline on the Bratton twins, he held Colin Briggs out of the game yesterday for violating team rules. Either UVa has become scary good, or discipline has its benefits. Maybe both. twak
Or maybe one leads to another. Since the Bratton's exit was due to rules that the team voted for, having them around must have affected the team.

It's also interesting that two Ivy League grads are coaching tomorrow. Maybe there's something to this "let's put athletics in its proper place" stuff. (Now watch me eat my words when one of them is hit with a recruiting violation. The Courtney Love tragedy did take place on Starsia's watch.)
Don Starsia was at the Pamela Anderson roast?

(Yeardley Love was the tragedy you're thinking of.)

 
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Jokes and stuff
 
Re: NCAA Lacrosse - semifinals
Posted by: Swampy (---.ri.ri.cox.net)
Date: May 30, 2011 09:27AM

ugarte
Swampy
Jim Hyla
Swampy
billhoward
Too bad Bucknell didn't take down Virginia and then Cornell took down Bucknell and Denver. Then the 40th anniversary of the first, 1971, NCAA title game would again have been Cornell-Maryland. Virginia looked overpowering in bringing Denver and Bill Tierney back to earth. Duke looked terrible in losing to Maryland. Maryland had a bruising defense and that same slow-paced offense as last week. Virginia looks as if it's going to make Dom Starsia a happy man Monday. Virginia 14-8 over Denver (9-2 at the half), Maryland 9-4 over Duke.

Or Cornell take down Virginia.

I've got to give Starsia credit though. After imposing discipline on the Bratton twins, he held Colin Briggs out of the game yesterday for violating team rules. Either UVa has become scary good, or discipline has its benefits. Maybe both. twak
Or maybe one leads to another. Since the Bratton's exit was due to rules that the team voted for, having them around must have affected the team.

It's also interesting that two Ivy League grads are coaching tomorrow. Maybe there's something to this "let's put athletics in its proper place" stuff. (Now watch me eat my words when one of them is hit with a recruiting violation. The Courtney Love tragedy did take place on Starsia's watch.)
Don Starsia was at the Pamela Anderson roast?

(Yeardley Love was the tragedy you're thinking of.)

Thanks. I am so out of it. blush
 
Re: NCAA Lacrosse Quarterfinals vs UVA
Posted by: ugarte (---.dyn.optonline.net)
Date: May 31, 2011 12:21AM

Well, at least we lost to the national champs.

Hmm. That didn't make me feel better at all.

 
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Re: NCAA Lacrosse Quarterfinals vs UVA
Posted by: RichH (---.st.northropgrumman.com)
Date: May 31, 2011 12:44PM

Maryland breaks a tie with Cornell for a 5-game Final losing streak. Like Colorado College in Men's Hockey, Maryland is saving us from being "on the clock," as their last championship was in 1975.

From a write-up of the final:


College lacrosse may be transformed in coming years after the University of Michigan said May 25 that it will spend as much as $10 million on men’s and women’s varsity lacrosse facilities, joining Penn State and the University of Florida as traditional college athletic powers pouring resources into the sport.

The interest from state schools -- with their booster clubs, conference television packages and football revenue -- may threaten the dominance of private schools such as Johns Hopkins University in Baltimore and Cornell in Ithaca, New York.

The University of Florida spent $15 million on a stadium and fielded its first varsity women’s team two years ago. The Gators were ranked as high as No. 2 this season and made it into the quarterfinals of this year’s NCAA tournament.

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Re: NCAA Lacrosse Quarterfinals vs UVA
Posted by: Al DeFlorio (---.hsd1.ma.comcast.net)
Date: May 31, 2011 07:21PM

RichH
The University of Florida spent $15 million on a stadium and fielded its first varsity women’s team two years ago. The Gators were ranked as high as No. 2 this season and made it into the quarterfinals of this year’s NCAA tournament.
And were beaten by Cornell, 9-6, in Ithaca.cheer

 
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Re: NCAA Lacrosse Quarterfinals vs UVA
Posted by: billhoward (---.hsd1.nj.comcast.net)
Date: May 31, 2011 10:37PM

Al DeFlorio
RichH
The University of Florida spent $15 million on a stadium and fielded its first varsity women’s team two years ago. The Gators were ranked as high as No. 2 this season and made it into the quarterfinals of this year’s NCAA tournament.
And were beaten by Cornell, 9-6, in Ithaca.cheer
After three starters left early with frostbite.
 
Re: NCAA Lacrosse Quarterfinals vs UVA
Posted by: Jeff Hopkins '82 (---.airproducts.com)
Date: June 01, 2011 08:14AM

billhoward
Al DeFlorio
RichH
The University of Florida spent $15 million on a stadium and fielded its first varsity women’s team two years ago. The Gators were ranked as high as No. 2 this season and made it into the quarterfinals of this year’s NCAA tournament.
And were beaten by Cornell, 9-6, in Ithaca.cheer
After three starters left early with frostbite.

Cold as a gator's ...
 
Re: NCAA Lacrosse Quarterfinals vs UVA
Posted by: Josh '99 (---.nyc.res.rr.com)
Date: June 01, 2011 09:50AM

billhoward
Al DeFlorio
RichH
The University of Florida spent $15 million on a stadium and fielded its first varsity women’s team two years ago. The Gators were ranked as high as No. 2 this season and made it into the quarterfinals of this year’s NCAA tournament.
And were beaten by Cornell, 9-6, in Ithaca.cheer
After three starters left early with frostbite.
It was a bitterly cold 62 degrees at game time, they can't be expected to deal with such conditions!
 
Re: NCAA Lacrosse Quarterfinals vs UVA
Posted by: KenP (---.ssmcnet.noaa.gov)
Date: June 01, 2011 10:34AM

Don't worry. I hear they're planning to spend another $75 million next year on weather modification systems to make it 90 degrees and humid for every road game.
 

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