Lax Cornell 8 @ UNC 13 [final]]
Posted by billhoward
Lax Cornell 8 @ UNC 13 [final]]
Posted by: billhoward (---.hsd1.nj.comcast.net)
Date: March 02, 2008 01:12PM
Game thread
Pregame: 26 degrees in Ithaca, about 60 in Chapel Hill. UNC students in the stands at the game in shirt sleeves. Sheesh, how did I forget this basic fact when applying to college?
Didn't hear much sound when the band played "rocket's red glare ..." Maybe not many people drove down overnight after the Harvard game?
Awesome video feed. How come the Ivy League can't do this? [edit add:] widescreen video. Cool. And what's this thing - when a goal is scored, you can see it a second time. What's the technical term for that? "Instant replay?" Wonder if Cornell video knows this term.
[add] Attendance announced as a old-Lynah-like 3866.
[add] Game stats you might not believe from watching the game:
Shots, Cornell 51-34 (a bit hard to believe the margin given the outcome)
Saves, UNC Grant Zimmerman 15 (believable, and amazing)
Saves, Cornell Jake Myers 6 (12 GA in 51 minutes, plus Mat Martinez 1S, 1GA in 9 minutes relief) (believable - we didn't stop a lot)
Faceoffs, Cornell 13x24 (unbelievable if you watched the first half)
First UNC 1 Cor 0 Michael Burns U UNC 2 Cor 0 UNC 2 Cor 1 Finn (Doctor) 8:29 to play UNC 3 Cor 1 Petracca UNC 4 Cor 1 Wagner UNC 5 Cor 1 [and Cornell takes TO] Second UNC 6 Cor 1 Bitter man-up UNC 6 Cor 2 Chris Finn (U) again UNC 6 Cor 3 Seibald (U) from a long way out UNC 6 Cor 4 Hurley (assisted) trickles in UNC 7 Cor 4 Wagner (Driscoll) man up Third UNC 7 Cor 5 Glynn off faceoff about 10 secs in UNC 8 Cor 5 Driscoll (A) UNC 9 Cor 5 UNC 9 Cor 6 Hurley (Corbolotti) UNC 10 Cor 6 Bitter Fourth UNC 11 Cor 6 Burns (Petracca) UNC 12 Cor 6 Bitter (U) UNC 12 Cor 7 Glynn (U) plus penalty after the goal UNC 13 Cor 7 MP Burns open net 3:01 left UNC 13 Cor 8 Doctor triple man up :11 left
Pregame: 26 degrees in Ithaca, about 60 in Chapel Hill. UNC students in the stands at the game in shirt sleeves. Sheesh, how did I forget this basic fact when applying to college?
Didn't hear much sound when the band played "rocket's red glare ..." Maybe not many people drove down overnight after the Harvard game?
Awesome video feed. How come the Ivy League can't do this? [edit add:] widescreen video. Cool. And what's this thing - when a goal is scored, you can see it a second time. What's the technical term for that? "Instant replay?" Wonder if Cornell video knows this term.
[add] Attendance announced as a old-Lynah-like 3866.
[add] Game stats you might not believe from watching the game:
Shots, Cornell 51-34 (a bit hard to believe the margin given the outcome)
Saves, UNC Grant Zimmerman 15 (believable, and amazing)
Saves, Cornell Jake Myers 6 (12 GA in 51 minutes, plus Mat Martinez 1S, 1GA in 9 minutes relief) (believable - we didn't stop a lot)
Faceoffs, Cornell 13x24 (unbelievable if you watched the first half)
Edited 35 time(s). Last edit at 03/02/2008 03:54PM by billhoward.
Re: Lax Cornell @ UNC game thread
Posted by: Al DeFlorio (---.hsd1.ma.comcast.net)
Date: March 02, 2008 01:14PM
Number of red hats in the crowd, however.
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Commentator is online
Posted by: TimV (---.nycap.res.rr.com)
Date: March 02, 2008 01:14PM
And he sounds fairly professional.
Re: Lax Cornell @ UNC game thread
Posted by: Jacob '06 (---.dhcp.psdn.ca.charter.com)
Date: March 02, 2008 01:15PM
Al DeFlorio
Number of red hats in the crowd, however.
Could hear a lot of cheering for the red during warmups too. I'm guessing its mostly the parents and they don't usually do the RED during the anthem.
Re: Commentator is online
Posted by: billhoward (---.hsd1.nj.comcast.net)
Date: March 02, 2008 01:16PM
TimV
And he sounds fairly professional.
... and then he said, "15 minute quarters. Four of them make up a men's lacrosse game."
Re: Lax Cornell 0 @ UNC 0 game thread
Posted by: Jacob '06 (---.dhcp.psdn.ca.charter.com)
Date: March 02, 2008 01:18PM
1-0 UNC on a sloppy turnover on a clear. I don't think they really got settled on the D after that even though they had some time.
Re: Lax Cornell 0 @ UNC 0 game thread
Posted by: Al DeFlorio (---.hsd1.ma.comcast.net)
Date: March 02, 2008 01:18PM
Stupid shot by Calvert.
They are likely to kill us on face-offs. Have to do something intelligent with each possession.
They are likely to kill us on face-offs. Have to do something intelligent with each possession.
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Re: Lax Cornell 0 @ UNC 1 game thread
Posted by: Jacob '06 (---.dhcp.psdn.ca.charter.com)
Date: March 02, 2008 01:18PM
And 0-2 at the X
Re: Lax Cornell 1 @ UNC 2 game thread
Posted by: Jacob '06 (---.dhcp.psdn.ca.charter.com)
Date: March 02, 2008 01:23PM
Chris Finn puts it away on a transition play with some good defense to force the turnover.
Re: Lax Cornell 1 @ UNC 2 game thread
Posted by: ech32 (---.twcny.res.rr.com)
Date: March 02, 2008 01:24PM
Lots of cheering for that goal! I think there's a pretty decent Cornell crowd.
Re: Commentator is online
Posted by: Al DeFlorio (---.hsd1.ma.comcast.net)
Date: March 02, 2008 01:27PM
Too many mistakes so far. Unnecessary penalty.
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Re: Lax Cornell 1 @ UNC 4 game thread
Posted by: Jacob '06 (---.dhcp.psdn.ca.charter.com)
Date: March 02, 2008 01:30PM
Wow. Meyers is not playing well, the defense is not playing well, and we can't get the ball on offense b/c we can't win a faceoff.
Re: Lax Cornell 1 @ UNC 3 game thread
Posted by: Al DeFlorio (---.hsd1.ma.comcast.net)
Date: March 02, 2008 01:31PM
I think Tambroni's gotta put Seibald in on face-offs. If nothing else, he can knock the little UNC shit on his ass. Trailing by four and not able to win a face-off is about the worst possible scenario.
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Re: Lax Cornell 1 @ UNC 5 game thread [end 1st]
Posted by: billhoward (---.hsd1.nj.comcast.net)
Date: March 02, 2008 01:39PM
So our game play vs. ACC teams is: Fall way behind, catch up in final minute, see who wins the final faceoff fo the game?
Re: Lax Cornell 3 @ UNC 6 game thread [2nd]
Posted by: Jacob '06 (---.dhcp.psdn.ca.charter.com)
Date: March 02, 2008 01:49PM
Things start to look better when we can actually get possession of the ball.
Re: Lax Cornell 4 @ UNC 6 game thread [2nd]
Posted by: Al DeFlorio (---.hsd1.ma.comcast.net)
Date: March 02, 2008 01:50PM
Possession is nine-tenths...or something like that
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Re: Lax Cornell 4 @ UNC 6 game thread [2nd]
Posted by: Al DeFlorio (---.hsd1.ma.comcast.net)
Date: March 02, 2008 01:51PM
UNC was up 6-1 or 7-1 on Duke in the NCAA quarters last year and still lost big. But we do have to get the ball.
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Re: Lax Cornell 4 @ UNC 6 game thread [2nd]
Posted by: Al DeFlorio (---.hsd1.ma.comcast.net)
Date: March 02, 2008 02:02PM
Lotsa chances, but nothing to show.
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Re: Lax Cornell 4 @ UNC 6 game thread [2nd]
Posted by: Al DeFlorio (---.hsd1.ma.comcast.net)
Date: March 02, 2008 02:04PM
Myers has got to stop some of those.
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Re: Lax Cornell 4 @ UNC 7 game thread [half]
Posted by: billhoward (---.hsd1.nj.comcast.net)
Date: March 02, 2008 02:08PM
Not as dire as it looked after the first quarter. Still wish we were doing better on faceoffs. And converting a couple more of those second quarter shots that just missed.
Defense at fault...
Posted by: TimV (---.nycap.res.rr.com)
Date: March 02, 2008 02:09PM
Did you see Derkac? He was in major good position to block shot AND HE DUCKED!!! Perfect, screens the shot then lets it through...jeez.
Re: Lax Cornell 4 @ UNC 7 game thread [half]
Posted by: TimV (---.nycap.res.rr.com)
Date: March 02, 2008 02:11PM
On offense too much 1 on 1. Need to move the ball crisper for higher percentage shots by guys cutting off-ball. This team is much better than this.
Re: Defense at fault...
Posted by: Jacob '06 (---.dhcp.psdn.ca.charter.com)
Date: March 02, 2008 02:13PM
TimV
Did you see Derkac? He was in major good position to block shot AND HE DUCKED!!! Perfect, screens the shot then lets it through...jeez.
Well I think he was likely ducking b/c he was screening Meyers, but yeah it would've been nice if he just jumped up and tried to block it. His duck was too late for Meyers to really pick it up.
Re: Lax Cornell 4 @ UNC 7 game thread [half]
Posted by: Al DeFlorio (---.hsd1.ma.comcast.net)
Date: March 02, 2008 02:25PM
Our extra-man D has not been effective.
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Re: Lax Cornell 5 @ UNC 9 game thread [3rd]
Posted by: Jacob '06 (---.dhcp.psdn.ca.charter.com)
Date: March 02, 2008 02:27PM
How many saves has Meyers made?
Re: Lax Cornell 5 @ UNC 9 game thread [3rd]
Posted by: CUontheslopes (---.com)
Date: March 02, 2008 02:28PM
3
Re: Lax Cornell 5 @ UNC 9 game thread [3rd]
Posted by: billhoward (---.hsd1.nj.comcast.net)
Date: March 02, 2008 02:28PM
Failed Cornell man up that could have cut it to 3 goal lead
Re: Lax Cornell 5 @ UNC 8 game thread [3rd]
Posted by: Al DeFlorio (---.hsd1.ma.comcast.net)
Date: March 02, 2008 02:29PM
Getting good chances but can't seem to finish. Zimmerman is outplaying Myers.
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Re: Lax Cornell 5 @ UNC 9 game thread [3rd]
Posted by: redhair34 (---.bc.edu)
Date: March 02, 2008 02:30PM
CUontheslopes
3
yikes
Re: Lax Cornell 5 @ UNC 9 game thread [3rd]
Posted by: Al DeFlorio (---.hsd1.ma.comcast.net)
Date: March 02, 2008 02:34PM
Maybe Martinez should get a shot at goal.
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Re: Lax Cornell 5 @ UNC 9 game thread [3rd]
Posted by: redhair34 (---.bc.edu)
Date: March 02, 2008 02:35PM
Al DeFlorio
Maybe Martinez should get a shot at goal.
That bad? (I can't see it)
Re: Lax Cornell 5 @ UNC 9 game thread [3rd]
Posted by: billhoward (---.hsd1.nj.comcast.net)
Date: March 02, 2008 02:36PM
Al DeFlorio
Maybe Martinez should get a shot at goal.
Davenport is rested and ready
Re: Lax Cornell 6 @ UNC 10 game thread [3rd]
Posted by: Al DeFlorio (---.hsd1.ma.comcast.net)
Date: March 02, 2008 02:40PM
We're showing flashes of last year's passing but we're just not crisp yet. The postponement of Tuesday's Binghamton game really hurt in terms of sharpening the offense.
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Re: Defense at fault...
Posted by: TimV (---.nycap.res.rr.com)
Date: March 02, 2008 02:40PM
In that position, you step up and block. If you want to clear the view you move sideways. That was a clear duck and if Coach Georgalas doesn't talk to him about it, I'll by you dinner at the restaurant of your choice. In Ithaca of course (cause your web address looks like Cakifornia)
Re: Lax Cornell 6 @ UNC 11 game thread [4th]]
Posted by: Al DeFlorio (---.hsd1.ma.comcast.net)
Date: March 02, 2008 02:49PM
Anyone else think we're wearing the wrong shoes?
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Re: Lax Cornell 6 @ UNC 11 game thread [4th]]
Posted by: TimV (---.nycap.res.rr.com)
Date: March 02, 2008 02:52PM
Either that, or the guys are so used to playing on turf they aren't compeensating for the difference in traction.
God, look at the slashes on Glynn's goal!
God, look at the slashes on Glynn's goal!
Re: Lax Cornell 7 @ UNC 12 game thread [4th]]
Posted by: billhoward (---.hsd1.nj.comcast.net)
Date: March 02, 2008 02:54PM
Failed one-minute man up.
Re: Lax Cornell 7 @ UNC 12 game thread [4th]]
Posted by: billhoward (---.hsd1.nj.comcast.net)
Date: March 02, 2008 02:56PM
5 down, 5 to go
Re: Lax Cornell 7 @ UNC 13 game thread [4th]]
Posted by: Al DeFlorio (---.hsd1.ma.comcast.net)
Date: March 02, 2008 03:04PM
One of last year's strengths was Cornell's shooting. This year we can't seem to put shots on net. When Glynn made it 7-5 five seconds into the second half, I thought we might be able to get back into it, but sadly not.
This loss really hurts. If an undefeated season with a win over the top-seed only gets a #4 seed--and even that required bending the criteria by the committee, according to its chairman--we may have to win out to get a top eight seed this year.
This loss really hurts. If an undefeated season with a win over the top-seed only gets a #4 seed--and even that required bending the criteria by the committee, according to its chairman--we may have to win out to get a top eight seed this year.
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Re: Lax Cornell 8 @ UNC 13 game thread [final]]
Posted by: billhoward (---.hsd1.nj.comcast.net)
Date: March 02, 2008 03:07PM
This might hurt us in the rankings.
Re: Lax Cornell 8 @ UNC 13 game thread [final]]
Posted by: upperdeck (---.syr.east.verizon.net)
Date: March 02, 2008 03:08PM
get better goalie play and this game is even.. if anything cornell had the better of close in shots.
Re: Lax Cornell 7 @ UNC 13 game thread [4th]]
Posted by: TimV (---.nycap.res.rr.com)
Date: March 02, 2008 03:17PM
It's a long season Al. If UNC turns into a top 2-3 team, this loss won't look so bad, as long as the team improves and plays a lot better than today.
Goaltending was the most obvious problem, but the shooting was also disappointing, and as I previously said, there wasn't enough offensive movement to create high percentage shots. I would hav liked to see the Canadian kids Gamble orThomson get an opportunity. Thomson has size at 6-2 and 185 and (I assume) the Canadian box techniques to get open and shoot quickly from inside. The other Cocoziello is another big attackmanwho might have helped us get inside more.
Siebald is also gonna have to step up his game if he wants to be a Tewaarton candidate.
Goaltending was the most obvious problem, but the shooting was also disappointing, and as I previously said, there wasn't enough offensive movement to create high percentage shots. I would hav liked to see the Canadian kids Gamble orThomson get an opportunity. Thomson has size at 6-2 and 185 and (I assume) the Canadian box techniques to get open and shoot quickly from inside. The other Cocoziello is another big attackmanwho might have helped us get inside more.
Siebald is also gonna have to step up his game if he wants to be a Tewaarton candidate.
Re: Lax Cornell 7 @ UNC 13 game thread [4th]]
Posted by: billhoward (---.hsd1.nj.comcast.net)
Date: March 02, 2008 03:22PM
TimV
Siebald is also gonna have to step up his game if he wants to be a Tewaarton candidate.
Seibald is odds-on favorite for the Tewaarton if it's given for minutes on the field.
I also wish the name was easier to spell. I have to stop and think if it's SEI or SIE. Maybe Age should put Max Seibald on spelling list in the lower right corner.
Cornell has a long history of losing early games and finishing strong. In theory that should be less an issue with indoor practice facilities.
Re: Lax Cornell 7 @ UNC 13 game thread [4th]]
Posted by: Al DeFlorio (---.hsd1.ma.comcast.net)
Date: March 02, 2008 03:32PM
Perhaps, but the criteria for selection and seeding is the criteria, and our schedule is no stronger this season than it was last (UNC replaces Duke, Navy in for Notre Dame, and add Denver and Canisius). I expect this team to improve and play better than today--if someone can play goal; upperdeck's observation above is accurate--but when they crunch the numbers at year end, we'll get screwed again. In 2005, with three losses, they sent us to play at Towson. We may get away with one more loss, but anything more and we're on the road, I think.TimV
It's a long season Al. If UNC turns into a top 2-3 team, this loss won't look so bad, as long as the team improves and plays a lot better than today.
Lastly, I'd be amazed if UNC winds up in the top four.
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Re: Lax Cornell 7 @ UNC 13 game thread [4th]]
Posted by: Jim Hyla (---.twcny.res.rr.com)
Date: March 02, 2008 03:58PM
billhoward
I also wish the name was easier to spell. I have to stop and think if it's SEI or SIE. Maybe Age should put Max Seibald on spelling list in the lower right corner.
i before e, except after c; or in this case after s sounding like c.
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Re: Lax Cornell 8 @ UNC 13 game thread [final]]
Posted by: Al DeFlorio (---.hsd1.ma.comcast.net)
Date: March 02, 2008 04:23PM
15 saves against 8 goals given up for UNC; 7 saves against 13 goals for Cornell.upperdeck
get better goalie play and this game is even.. if anything cornell had the better of close in shots.
Interesting that Glynn beat their hot-shot face-off guy on 11 of 15 once Tambroni put him into the X.
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Re: Lax Cornell 8 @ UNC 13 game thread [final]]
Posted by: Jacob '06 (---.dhcp.psdn.ca.charter.com)
Date: March 02, 2008 04:25PM
Al DeFlorio15 saves against 8 goals given up for UNC; 7 saves against 13 goals for Cornell.upperdeck
get better goalie play and this game is even.. if anything cornell had the better of close in shots.
Interesting that Glynn beat their hot-shot face-off guy on 11 of 15 once Tambroni put him into the X.
I think Glynn won a lot of the time by getting a strong clamp on and holding the ball in there so Cornell could win it on the wing play instead of just trying to scoop it out quickly.
Re: Lax Cornell 8 @ UNC 13 game thread [final]]
Posted by: Al DeFlorio (---.hsd1.ma.comcast.net)
Date: March 02, 2008 05:05PM
Whatever it takes.Jacob '06Al DeFlorio15 saves against 8 goals given up for UNC; 7 saves against 13 goals for Cornell.upperdeck
get better goalie play and this game is even.. if anything cornell had the better of close in shots.
Interesting that Glynn beat their hot-shot face-off guy on 11 of 15 once Tambroni put him into the X.
I think Glynn won a lot of the time by getting a strong clamp on and holding the ball in there so Cornell could win it on the wing play instead of just trying to scoop it out quickly.
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Re: Lax Cornell 7 @ UNC 13 game thread [4th]]
Posted by: TimV (---.nycap.res.rr.com)
Date: March 02, 2008 09:01PM
Yeah, you got a good point - at this point hard to see them above JHU, Duke, UVa and SU. Still, if we win out other than SU, we should be in good shape. DFon't forget, we have a quality win (so far) against Navy, and they will probably in turn get somwe quality wins which help us. Gotta have the Army game next weekend, though.
Re: Lax Cornell 7 @ UNC 13 game thread [4th]]
Posted by: billhoward (---.hsd1.nj.comcast.net)
Date: March 03, 2008 11:42PM
TimV
Yeah, you got a good point - at this point hard to see them above JHU, Duke, UVa and SU. Still, if we win out other than SU, we should be in good shape. DFon't forget, we have a quality win (so far) against Navy, and they will probably in turn get somwe quality wins which help us. Gotta have the Army game next weekend, though.
It's a quality win so long as Navy stays a quality team. Hockey has beaten teams that were quality early in the season but not come tourney time. Just our luck and all the good players ship out early to the Gulf, er, conflict.
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