Lax poll 4/21 - Cornell falls to T8
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Lax poll 4/21 - Cornell falls to T8
Posted by: billhoward (---.hsd1.nj.comcast.net)
Date: April 21, 2008 08:12PM
The USILA poll has Cornell, Maryland, and Princeton in a virtual tie for positions 8-9-10 in the 4/21 poll. Seems about right.
Rank Team Record Points Previous Week 1 Syracuse 11-1 215 (6) 1 2 Duke 13-1 212 (5) 2 3 Virginia 11-2 196 4 4 Georgetown 8-3 176 5 5 UMBC 9-3 162 6 6 Johns Hopkins 5-5 157 7 7 Notre Dame 9-2 133 10T 8 Tie Cornell 9-3 120 3 8 Tie Maryland 8-4 120 12 10 Princeton 7-4 119 17 11 Army 9-4 114 8 12 North Carolina 8-4 108 13 13 Ohio State 9-3 102 15T 14 Navy 9-4 83 10T 15 Loyola 7-4 79 15T 16 Drexel 11-3 76 14 17 Brown 10-2 47 18 18 Denver 9-5 26 19 19 Bucknell 9-4 22 9 20 Hofstra 6-5 19 20 Others Receiving Votes: Colgate, Delaware, Albany, Rutgers
Re: Lax poll 4/21 - Cornell falls to T8
Posted by: Jacob '06 (---.static.mtpk.ca.charter.com)
Date: April 21, 2008 08:14PM
I still wouldn't call us better than UNC but I think that is a much more accurate ranking than #3
Re: Lax poll 4/21 - Cornell falls to T8
Posted by: mnagowski (---.bflony.fios.verizon.net)
Date: April 21, 2008 08:16PM
If Cornell beats Brown and Brown beats Princeton, could there be three Ivies in the tournament?
Re: Lax poll 4/21 - Cornell falls to T8
Posted by: Jacob '06 (---.static.mtpk.ca.charter.com)
Date: April 21, 2008 08:19PM
mnagowski
If Cornell beats Brown and Brown beats Princeton, could there be three Ivies in the tournament?
No...They'll do a coin toss to determine the autobid and I don't think the other 2 are going to have enough quality wins to get in.
Re: Lax poll 4/21 - Cornell falls to T8
Posted by: Al DeFlorio (---.hsd1.ma.comcast.net)
Date: April 21, 2008 08:35PM
I think we're ranked about right but there's no justification for having Notre Dame above us.
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Re: Lax poll 4/21 - Cornell falls to T8
Posted by: mnagowski (---.bflony.fios.verizon.net)
Date: April 21, 2008 09:54PM
Jacob '06mnagowski
If Cornell beats Brown and Brown beats Princeton, could there be three Ivies in the tournament?
No...They'll do a coin toss to determine the autobid and I don't think the other 2 are going to have enough quality wins to get in.
Is there a head-to-head comparison before they resort to the coin flip?
Re: Lax poll 4/21 - Cornell falls to T8
Posted by: DeltaOne81 (---.nwrknj.east.verizon.net)
Date: April 21, 2008 09:59PM
mnagowskiJacob '06mnagowski
If Cornell beats Brown and Brown beats Princeton, could there be three Ivies in the tournament?
No...They'll do a coin toss to determine the autobid and I don't think the other 2 are going to have enough quality wins to get in.
Is there a head-to-head comparison before they resort to the coin flip?
Yes, but in a 3 way tie that's almost always pointless (not always, just almost always).
Re: Lax poll 4/21 - Cornell falls to T8
Posted by: Jeff Hopkins '82 (---.airproducts.com)
Date: April 22, 2008 12:28PM
DeltaOne81mnagowskiJacob '06mnagowski
If Cornell beats Brown and Brown beats Princeton, could there be three Ivies in the tournament?
No...They'll do a coin toss to determine the autobid and I don't think the other 2 are going to have enough quality wins to get in.
Is there a head-to-head comparison before they resort to the coin flip?
Yes, but in a 3 way tie that's almost always pointless (not always, just almost always).
It would be this year. For a 3-way tie, we'd have to beat Bruno, and they'd have to beat Princeton. Otherwise, it's a two-way.
Re: Lax poll 4/21 - Cornell falls to T8
Posted by: jtwcornell91 (Moderator)
Date: April 22, 2008 04:24PM
Jeff Hopkins '82DeltaOne81mnagowskiJacob '06mnagowski
If Cornell beats Brown and Brown beats Princeton, could there be three Ivies in the tournament?
No...They'll do a coin toss to determine the autobid and I don't think the other 2 are going to have enough quality wins to get in.
Is there a head-to-head comparison before they resort to the coin flip?
Yes, but in a 3 way tie that's almost always pointless (not always, just almost always).
It would be this year. For a 3-way tie, we'd have to beat Bruno, and they'd have to beat Princeton. Otherwise, it's a two-way.
So ... Go Dartmouth!
Re: Lax poll 4/21 - Cornell falls to T8
Posted by: FarEastLax (202.64.99.---)
Date: April 22, 2008 09:37PM
I wouldn't put much hope in the Darts knocking off Princeton. We have to focus on beating Brown and Hobart and then hoping for the best.
Quint's bracket (which assumes the above plus Princeton winning the title) has us in as a #8 seed playing a first round game at home against Army. Should we get past that, we would then play Duke in a second round game in Ithaca.
All of this is speculation at this point, but it's interesting to think about the possibilities.
Quint's bracket (which assumes the above plus Princeton winning the title) has us in as a #8 seed playing a first round game at home against Army. Should we get past that, we would then play Duke in a second round game in Ithaca.
All of this is speculation at this point, but it's interesting to think about the possibilities.
Re: Lax poll 4/21 - Cornell falls to T8
Posted by: mnagowski (---.bflony.fios.verizon.net)
Date: April 23, 2008 12:08AM
Duke! In Ithaca! How many fans would they bring? 10? 20?
Re: Lax poll 4/21 - Cornell falls to T8
Posted by: Jeff Hopkins '82 (---.airproducts.com)
Date: April 24, 2008 07:24AM
jtwcornell91Jeff Hopkins '82DeltaOne81mnagowskiJacob '06mnagowski
If Cornell beats Brown and Brown beats Princeton, could there be three Ivies in the tournament?
No...They'll do a coin toss to determine the autobid and I don't think the other 2 are going to have enough quality wins to get in.
Is there a head-to-head comparison before they resort to the coin flip?
Yes, but in a 3 way tie that's almost always pointless (not always, just almost always).
It would be this year. For a 3-way tie, we'd have to beat Bruno, and they'd have to beat Princeton. Otherwise, it's a two-way.
So ... Go Dartmouth!
Forgot about that. Not that there's a snowball's chance, mind you.
Re: Lax poll 4/21 - Cornell falls to T8
Posted by: Al DeFlorio (---.hsd1.ma.comcast.net)
Date: April 24, 2008 10:57PM
Inside Lacrosse's Friday chat will feature Max Seibald and John Glynn tomorrow (April 25) at 2pm. Details and question submission here: [proxy.espn.go.com]
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Re: Lax poll 4/21 - Cornell falls to T8
Posted by: mnagowski (---.allfirst.com)
Date: April 25, 2008 01:04PM
Oh fun. I just submitted two questions. One dorky. One not so dorky.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 04/25/2008 01:05PM by mnagowski.
Re: Lax poll 4/21 - Cornell falls to T8
Posted by: mnagowski (---.bflony.fios.verizon.net)
Date: April 25, 2008 04:31PM
Bah. They didn't take my questions.
Re: Lax poll 4/21 - Cornell falls to T8
Posted by: RichH (216.195.201.---)
Date: April 25, 2008 05:25PM
mnagowski
Bah. They didn't take my questions.
That's unfortunate, mnagowski. Honestly, that was one of the most intelligent, coherent, and informative athlete-chat sessions I've ever seen on an espn-hosted site. Well worth the time to read.
[proxy.espn.go.com]
Re: Lax poll 4/21 - Cornell falls to T8
Posted by: mnagowski (---.bflony.fios.verizon.net)
Date: April 25, 2008 05:37PM
Well, one of them was a slight insult to Myers, as I asked whether or not the graduation of McGonagle has affected the caliber of their shooting.
The other was about their favorite poets, and what they thought of the poetry reading last night in honor of the CU Laxer that was killed in 9/11.
The other was about their favorite poets, and what they thought of the poetry reading last night in honor of the CU Laxer that was killed in 9/11.
Re: Lax poll 4/21 - Cornell falls to T8
Posted by: Al DeFlorio (---.hsd1.ma.comcast.net)
Date: April 25, 2008 06:29PM
Nice to see it confirmed that John Glynn has asked for another year of eligibility.
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Re: Lax poll 4/21 - Cornell falls to T8
Posted by: ugarte (38.136.14.---)
Date: April 25, 2008 06:51PM
I didn't even know that he was at the party.Al DeFlorio
Nice to see it confirmed that John Glynn has asked for another year of eligibility.
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NCAA at-large bid logjam
Posted by: Al DeFlorio (---.hsd1.ma.comcast.net)
Date: April 25, 2008 08:16PM
Competition for at-large bids is getting tougher. With seven automatic bids, and at-large bids almost a certainty for Syracuse, Hopkins, and the four ACC teams, there are only three slots still available. Included in the mix are Georgetown (conqueror of Duke: Loyola having taken the league's autobid), Army (beaten by Bucknell in the Patriot League semis), either or both Notre Dame and Ohio State (depending on who wins the Great Western bid), and, very possibly, Navy (losing 7-5 in the third to Colgate in the other Patriot semi). It could very well be that only the champion will be selected from the Ivy League.
[Edit: Colgate 12, Navy 9 final; two of our so-called "good wins" are now not so good.]
[Edit: Colgate 12, Navy 9 final; two of our so-called "good wins" are now not so good.]
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Re: NCAA at-large bid logjam
Posted by: TimV (66.208.4.---)
Date: April 26, 2008 10:16AM
I can't imagine 3 Pat league teams and only one Ivy. Especially since we beat both Army and Navy. Win out and we're in. Otherwise, I watch the championships on the Cape. Wanna come over and barbecue, Al?
Re: NCAA at-large bid logjam
Posted by: Al DeFlorio (---.hsd1.ma.comcast.net)
Date: April 26, 2008 10:46AM
I can't imagine three either, Tim, but all it takes is any three of Navy, Georgetown, and Ohio State--if they lose the Great Western league--or UMBC--if they lose America East--and we're out. Unless we somehow win the Ivy League, a pretty dicey proposition right now.TimV
I can't imagine 3 Pat league teams and only one Ivy. Especially since we beat both Army and Navy. Win out and we're in. Otherwise, I watch the championships on the Cape. Wanna come over and barbecue, Al?
We have tickets for Foxborough, Tim. Means at least four bridge crossings on Memorial Day weekend.
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Re: NCAA at-large bid logjam
Posted by: TimV (66.208.4.---)
Date: April 26, 2008 11:09AM
Talk about logjams!
UMBC has what- one quality win vs Maryland? I think THEY have to win America East. True that Patriot league tournament upsets damage our quality win record, though. I really don't see two GWLLs or Ameast and only one Ivy. Must......beat.....Brown......ARRRRGH.
UMBC has what- one quality win vs Maryland? I think THEY have to win America East. True that Patriot league tournament upsets damage our quality win record, though. I really don't see two GWLLs or Ameast and only one Ivy. Must......beat.....Brown......ARRRRGH.
Re: NCAA at-large bid logjam
Posted by: Al DeFlorio (---.hsd1.ma.comcast.net)
Date: April 26, 2008 11:24AM
No question about that.TimV
Must......beat.....Brown......ARRRRGH.
Let me know when you're heading this way again.
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Re: Lax poll 4/21 - Cornell falls to T8
Posted by: RichH (76.28.11.---)
Date: April 26, 2008 03:08PM
Jeff Hopkins '82jtwcornell91Jeff Hopkins '82DeltaOne81mnagowskiJacob '06mnagowski
If Cornell beats Brown and Brown beats Princeton, could there be three Ivies in the tournament?
No...They'll do a coin toss to determine the autobid and I don't think the other 2 are going to have enough quality wins to get in.
Is there a head-to-head comparison before they resort to the coin flip?
Yes, but in a 3 way tie that's almost always pointless (not always, just almost always).
It would be this year. For a 3-way tie, we'd have to beat Bruno, and they'd have to beat Princeton. Otherwise, it's a two-way.
So ... Go Dartmouth!
Forgot about that. Not that there's a snowball's chance, mind you.
Go Fighting Snowballs!!
Re: Lax poll 4/21 - Cornell falls to T8
Posted by: Jeff Hopkins '82 (---.cable.ubr08.edin.blueyonder.co.uk)
Date: April 26, 2008 06:25PM
And the snowballs come through.
Now go Bruno. Beat the tiggers!
Now go Bruno. Beat the tiggers!
Re: Lax poll 4/21 - Cornell falls to T8
Posted by: RichH (76.28.11.---)
Date: May 04, 2008 09:10PM
FarEastLax
Quint's bracket (which assumes the above plus Princeton winning the title) has us in as a #8 seed playing a first round game at home against Army. Should we get past that, we would then play Duke in a second round game in Ithaca.
All of this is speculation at this point, but it's interesting to think about the possibilities.
Pretty good prognostication 2 weeks out.
Ohio State vs. #8 Cornell
Barring upsets, we get Duke in Ithaca.
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