"In Search of the Great American Hockey Novel"
Posted by Jacob 03
"In Search of the Great American Hockey Novel"
Posted by: Jacob 03 (---.carlsl01.pa.comcast.net)
Date: February 21, 2006 01:04AM
[www.nytimes.com]
Keith Gessen wrote an interesting essay in the NYTimes Book Review this Sunday, focusing on a couple hockey books (the one rendering this post obligatory obviously neither American nor a novel). Apologies in advance for when this inevitably goes registration-only....
Keith Gessen wrote an interesting essay in the NYTimes Book Review this Sunday, focusing on a couple hockey books (the one rendering this post obligatory obviously neither American nor a novel). Apologies in advance for when this inevitably goes registration-only....
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 02/21/2006 01:16AM by Jacob 03.
Re: "In Search of the Great American Hockey Novel"
Posted by: Josh '99 (---.nyc.res.rr.com)
Date: February 21, 2006 02:00AM
Yeah. That's why people don't watch hockey. All the sheep who'd rather watch poker on ESPN8 would magically be converted by a wonderfully crafted hockey novel.
What accounts for the marginal place of hockey in the world of American professional sports? Might it not, in the end, have something to do with its marginal place in the world of American letters?
Re: "In Search of the Great American Hockey Novel"
Posted by: Beeeej (38.136.58.---)
Date: February 21, 2006 09:27AM
You call them "sheep" as if they've been misled, or even forced, into watching poker instead of hockey. There's a reason ESPN shows more poker than hockey, and it's because more people want to watch it. Maybe that'll change after the vast majority of them realize they'll never get rich playing poker themselves, maybe not; but it's not like someone's holding guns to their heads right now.
Beeeej
Beeeej
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"Cornell isn't an organization. It's a loose affiliation of independent fiefdoms united by a common hockey team."
- Steve Worona
Beeeej, Esq.
"Cornell isn't an organization. It's a loose affiliation of independent fiefdoms united by a common hockey team."
- Steve Worona
Re: "In Search of the Great American Hockey Novel"
Posted by: Liz '05 (---.pn.at.cox.net)
Date: February 21, 2006 10:47AM
I'd like to hold a gun to my roommate's head to make him STOP watching poker (especially during the Olympics!). Help? Anyone?
Re: "In Search of the Great American Hockey Novel"
Posted by: David Harding (---.dsl.emhril.ameritech.net)
Date: February 21, 2006 10:37PM
And that they will get rich playing hockey?Beeeej
You call them "sheep" as if they've been misled, or even forced, into watching poker instead of hockey. There's a reason ESPN shows more poker than hockey, and it's because more people want to watch it. Maybe that'll change after the vast majority of them realize they'll never get rich playing poker themselves, maybe not; but it's not like someone's holding guns to their heads right now.
Beeeej
Re: "In Search of the Great American Hockey Novel"
Posted by: David Harding (---.dsl.emhril.ameritech.net)
Date: February 21, 2006 11:28PM
Speaking of hockey literature, how about children's books about hockey players? I remember reading a few in my youth, but I don't remember the authors or titles. There are more now, Matt Christopher having cranked out a shelfful by himself. I don't think any of the ones I remember were by him, but I could be wrong.
1) An American, playing for Dartmouth, is signed by the NY Rangers. This is 1950's, maybe even earlier. He fairly quickly realizes that he really doesn't belong at that level but is just there as a novelty to boost attendance.
2) High school player moves to a new northern Minnesota town and competes with the established star for friends and glory on the ice. Memorable finish.
3) Sequel to #2. Totally unmemorable.
1) An American, playing for Dartmouth, is signed by the NY Rangers. This is 1950's, maybe even earlier. He fairly quickly realizes that he really doesn't belong at that level but is just there as a novelty to boost attendance.
2) High school player moves to a new northern Minnesota town and competes with the established star for friends and glory on the ice. Memorable finish.
3) Sequel to #2. Totally unmemorable.
Re: "In Search of the Great American Hockey Novel"
Posted by: Josh '99 (---.nyc.res.rr.com)
Date: February 22, 2006 08:36AM
I call them "sheep" because they're watching what everybody else is watching. If the next big thing is street luge, I have no doubt they'll watch that too.Beeeej
You call them "sheep" as if they've been misled, or even forced, into watching poker instead of hockey.
Re: "In Search of the Great American Hockey Novel"
Posted by: Beeeej (38.136.58.---)
Date: February 22, 2006 09:58AM
jmh30I call them "sheep" because they're watching what everybody else is watching. If the next big thing is street luge, I have no doubt they'll watch that too.Beeeej
You call them "sheep" as if they've been misled, or even forced, into watching poker instead of hockey.
Amazingly enough, some people actually continue to watch television programming that they enjoy, no matter why they first started watching it. Perhaps you're the exception - you tried watching a very popular program because you'd heard how good it was, saw that it was, indeed, very good, and then stopped watching because you didn't want to be a "sheep"? Somehow I doubt it.
Beeeej
___________________________
Beeeej, Esq.
"Cornell isn't an organization. It's a loose affiliation of independent fiefdoms united by a common hockey team."
- Steve Worona
Beeeej, Esq.
"Cornell isn't an organization. It's a loose affiliation of independent fiefdoms united by a common hockey team."
- Steve Worona
Re: "In Search of the Great American Hockey Novel"
Posted by: Trotsky (---.raytheon.com)
Date: February 22, 2006 06:48PM
David Harding
Speaking of hockey literature, how about children's books about hockey players?
Hobey Baker is mentioned in "This Side of Paradise," which is pretty childish.
Oh, oh, you mean books *for* children...
Re: "In Search of the Great American Hockey Novel"
Posted by: Trotsky (---.raytheon.com)
Date: February 22, 2006 06:51PM
jmh30I call them "sheep" because they're watching what everybody else is watching. If the next big thing is street luge, I have no doubt they'll watch that too.Beeeej
You call them "sheep" as if they've been misled, or even forced, into watching poker instead of hockey.
Even as the Forum Shadow Minister in Charge of "The Masses are Asses" Portfolio, I don't think people are watching poker because they're lemmings.
I think they keep expecting it to be strip poker, and that they are constantly, bitterly frustrated.
Re: "In Search of the Great American Hockey Novel"
Posted by: Hillel Hoffmann (---.usb.temple.edu)
Date: February 28, 2006 11:28AM
It's not a novel, but Carrier's The Hockey Sweater is my favorite piece of hockey lit:
[www.tundrabooks.com]
If you wanna good laugh at an archetypal Quebecois accent, here's the author's over-the-top reading of the story:
[archives.cbc.ca]
And here is a way cool web site exploring related Canadian cultural themes:
[www.civilization.ca]
[www.tundrabooks.com]
If you wanna good laugh at an archetypal Quebecois accent, here's the author's over-the-top reading of the story:
[archives.cbc.ca]
And here is a way cool web site exploring related Canadian cultural themes:
[www.civilization.ca]
Re: "In Search of the Great American Hockey Novel"
Posted by: Trotsky (---.raytheon.com)
Date: March 07, 2006 11:36AM
I recently noticed a book by 90's Colgate goaltender Ken Baker ("They Don't Play Hockey in Heaven," Lyons Press, 2003). It's about him coming back from a tumor to play in the ECHL. I leafed through it briefly but didn't pick it up. Has anyone read it?
Re: "In Search of the Great American Hockey Novel"
Posted by: GoBruno (---.client.insightBB.com)
Date: March 12, 2006 01:44AM
I absolutely devoured it. It's a little sappy at times, but an overall great read.
If you're a fan of minor league hockey and/or memoirs you'll probably like it. And if you're an upstate NY native, some parts will make you feel warm and fuzzy inside.
(Not to nitpick, but the team Baker played for - the Bakersfield Condors - was in the WCHL at the time.)
AJF
Brown '01
ILR '08
If you're a fan of minor league hockey and/or memoirs you'll probably like it. And if you're an upstate NY native, some parts will make you feel warm and fuzzy inside.
(Not to nitpick, but the team Baker played for - the Bakersfield Condors - was in the WCHL at the time.)
AJF
Brown '01
ILR '08
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