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Snitches on campus (we made the New York times}

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Snitches on campus (we made the New York times}
Posted by: abmarks (107.242.117.---)
Date: September 02, 2020 01:32PM

College Students, Told to Report Covid Parties, Ask: To Snitch or Not to Snitch? [nyti.ms]
 
Re: Snitches on campus (we made the New York times}
Posted by: Iceberg (---.phlapa.fios.verizon.net)
Date: September 02, 2020 09:42PM

I'll make a longer post later, but this kind of thing creates a very toxic environment in some ways. Remember the kind of people in the dorms that would whine if they even heard a pin drop? Take the behavior of those people and multiply it tenfold
 
Re: Snitches on campus (we made the New York times}
Posted by: DL (---.nrflva.fios.verizon.net)
Date: September 02, 2020 10:32PM

"Some faculty members at schools have warned against asking students to police their peers. They have said doing so could disrupt student life when classmates are pitted against one other"
Okay, that's fair. However, some students appear to have no issue putting themselves against others without any encouragement from school policy: "The scene was posted on Snapchat by one of the partygoers, a first-year student at Cornell University, along with a selfie with a mocking caption: “The people who slide up saying ‘you’re not social distancing’ are the ones that wouldn’t have been invited anyway.”"
 
Re: Snitches on campus (we made the New York times}
Posted by: French Rage (104.129.202.---)
Date: September 03, 2020 01:28PM

Iceberg
I'll make a longer post later, but this kind of thing creates a very toxic environment in some ways. Remember the kind of people in the dorms that would whine if they even heard a pin drop? Take the behavior of those people and multiply it tenfold

Yes but these are much more serious times.

 
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Re: Snitches on campus (we made the New York times}
Posted by: dag14 (---.stny.res.rr.com)
Date: September 03, 2020 01:45PM

The situation is similar to having an academic honor code where students are violating the code if they don't report cheating of which they are aware. The same can be said for the health crisis we now face. Nobody says you have to attend Cornell but if you choose to, you have agreed to abide by certain rules as a result of the pandemic. I have no problem with the notion that other students will report violations. Note President Pollack's most recent message to the Cornell community where she acknowledges that Gov. Cuomo's announcement that 100 infections in a week means moving to online instruction only for 2 weeks. She notes this is a harsh standard to apply, not what Cornell planned for but since it is the law, it is even more important that everyone adhere to expectations.

"What this means is that we need everyone to be hyper-vigilant in their public health practices: consistently wearing masks, staying distanced from one another, washing hands, and eschewing all but small gatherings. Just a couple of parties could negate all of the efforts of tens of thousands of others.

Staying below the new limit will be extremely difficult, and make no mistake: there is no guarantee of success. The new limit is less than half of the peak infection level that we had predicted and for which we prepared. But we are all here now, and this is our newest new reality, so we need to do what Cornellians have always done when faced with an enormous challenge: rise up to do everything we can to meet it."
 
Re: Snitches on campus (we made the New York times}
Posted by: Trotsky (---.washdc.fios.verizon.net)
Date: September 03, 2020 02:27PM

Please snitch. The assholes who break the rules are assholes who could literally kill people. Fuck them.
 
Re: Snitches on campus (we made the New York times}
Posted by: abmarks (107.242.117.---)
Date: September 03, 2020 08:45PM

Trotsky
Please snitch. The assholes who break the rules are assholes who could literally kill people. Fuck them.

And fuck people who know about misbehavior bit refuse to "snitch". They might as well be the Vichy French
 
Re: Snitches on campus (we made the New York times}
Posted by: upprdeck (38.77.26.---)
Date: September 03, 2020 08:55PM

these numbers show that 100 leads to 3-4x that number, so while low numbers will be tough to stick too it also shows that you cant let it be too high a number and still control it.. with all the kids being tested and random testing all over it also shows that people are not only mingling without being safe they are also doing so with people outside the cornell bubble.
 
Re: Snitches on campus (we made the New York times}
Posted by: David Harding (---.hsd1.il.comcast.net)
Date: September 03, 2020 10:54PM

From the Cornell Sun

The shift up in alert levels [to yellow] came after Cornell identified 39 cases associated with an initial cluster and “related cluster” of COVID-19 cases linked to social gatherings — 36 of the 39 cases are among student athletes, Provost Mike Kotlikoff and Vice President for Student and Campus Life Ryan Lombardi wrote in a Thursday email to the Cornell community. Within those 39 cases a sub-cluster has developed on the North Campus Townhouse Community. There are also an additional eight cases not tied to the first cluster.

Cornell athletics declined a request for comment.

...
The cluster prompted Cornell to ramp up its testing efforts, Kotlikoff and Lombardi wrote, describing how the University implemented an “additional layer” to its testing regimen to screen not only close contacts, but students who felt that they may have been affected by the cluster. As a result, Cornell is now testing more members of select athletics teams.

Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 09/03/2020 10:55PM by David Harding.
 
Re: Snitches on campus (we made the New York times}
Posted by: Scersk '97 (---.hsd1.ct.comcast.net)
Date: September 03, 2020 11:00PM

David Harding
As a result, Cornell is now testing more members of select athletics teams.

[complete speculation]
And there's a possibly connected cluster at TC3? Wrestling.
[/complete speculation]
 
Re: Snitches on campus (we made the New York times}
Posted by: upprdeck (38.77.26.---)
Date: September 04, 2020 09:58AM

I heard not a team on anyones normal radar.
 
Re: Snitches on campus (we made the New York times}
Posted by: dag14 (---.stny.res.rr.com)
Date: September 04, 2020 01:19PM

At least 5 years ago many freshman athletes were housed on North Campus in the townhouses. So a townhouse cluster that includes a lot of athletes might be more a function of living on North than being related to something that the athletic team were up to.
 

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