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Yet another collegetown bar bites the dust

Posted by Ben Rocky '04 
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Re: Another new restaurant
Posted by: Trotsky (---.washdc.fios.verizon.net)
Date: February 15, 2022 04:06AM

I miss the Chapter House. And the Chariot.

The demise of C-Town and the green space on campus truly sucks. Trantor won.

But I never saw the elm trees, so I never really saw Cornell anyway.


 
Re: Another new restaurant
Posted by: billhoward (---.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net)
Date: February 15, 2022 08:34AM

There was mass planting of trees in the 1970s -- an Asian species suited to Ithaca's climate? gingko trees? -- but I don't recall there ever being a time when East Avenue, the main road through campus, ever approached having an arched canopy. Meanwhile, Princeton has hundreds of elm trees along one of its roads, the one where some of the rec sports are played.

Does anyone recall if the replacement trees ever took hold, if there was a mass die-off, or if they just weren't able to attain the same heights as the storied elms?
 
Re: Another new restaurant
Posted by: Scersk '97 (38.81.106.---)
Date: February 15, 2022 01:59PM

Trotsky
But I never saw the elm trees, so I never really saw Cornell anyway.

Beneath green elms with branches bowed…

Der Schmerz!
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 02/15/2022 02:03PM by Scersk '97.
 
Re: Another new restaurant
Posted by: Trotsky (---.net.cia.gov)
Date: February 15, 2022 02:59PM

billhoward
There was mass planting of trees in the 1970s -- an Asian species suited to Ithaca's climate? gingko trees? -- but I don't recall there ever being a time when East Avenue, the main road through campus, ever approached having an arched canopy. Meanwhile, Princeton has hundreds of elm trees along one of its roads, the one where some of the rec sports are played.

Does anyone recall if the replacement trees ever took hold, if there was a mass die-off, or if they just weren't able to attain the same heights as the storied elms?
IINM the Aggies have been beavering away for decades trying to design elms that survive whatever the Dutch plague was. I mean, I assume they will eventually figure it out... the same time Day Hall declares no grass or trees will be permitted on campus because they do not have a sufficiently high ROI per mm2.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 02/15/2022 03:00PM by Trotsky.
 
Re: Another new restaurant
Posted by: Trotsky (---.net.cia.gov)
Date: February 15, 2022 03:08PM

Scersk '97
Trotsky
But I never saw the elm trees, so I never really saw Cornell anyway.

Beneath green elms with branches bowed…


I wake at night and think I hear remembered chimes.
And mem'ry brings in visions clear Enchanted times.
Beneath green elms with branches bowed,
In springtime suns,
Or touching elbows in a crowd
Of eager ones.
Again, I'm hurrying past the tow'rs
Or with the teams,
Or spending precious idling hours in golden dreams.


Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 02/15/2022 03:09PM by Trotsky.

 
Re: Another new restaurant
Posted by: Scersk '97 (38.81.106.---)
Date: February 15, 2022 08:38PM

Trotsky
Scersk '97
Trotsky
But I never saw the elm trees, so I never really saw Cornell anyway.

Beneath green elms with branches bowed…

I wake at night and think I hear remembered chimes.

In my Glee Club alum incarnation, I desperately miss singing this particular Cornell song at the Chariot.

But the only golden dreams I dream of are ECAC championships.
 
Re: Another new restaurant
Posted by: George64 (---.hsd1.fl.comcast.net)
Date: February 15, 2022 09:11PM

Trotsky

I wake at night and think I hear remembered chimes.
And mem'ry brings in visions clear Enchanted times.
Beneath green elms with branches bowed,
In springtime suns,
Or touching elbows in a crowd
Of eager ones.
Again, I'm hurrying past the tow'rs
Or with the teams,
Or spending precious idling hours in golden dreams.


Beautiful memories. Thank you.
 
Re: Another new restaurant
Posted by: Cornell95 (8.47.99.---)
Date: February 19, 2022 11:48PM

One of the species that was planted as a potential replacemennt was the Zelcova Serrata
There was a substantial number planted, I distinctly remember a bunch in front of Lincoln on the Arts quad

They unfortunately don't reach the same towering height, and while they do have a similar vase shape that would create the desired 'arch' form over narrower spans, they also didnt handle snow/ice load as well and were known to split badly. While I was on campus in the 90s it seemed like every other one had been 'saved' with cabling

I recall there were several research efforts to find resistant cultivars... but it is a serious endeavor and the time required for research, commercialization and then growth to a mature replacement size tree is multiple decades of effort. There are of course additional emerging disease issues hitting other species now (the Ash tree will be practically non-existent in the NorthEast in the next 5 years).
 
Re: Another new restaurant
Posted by: Scersk '97 (38.81.106.---)
Date: February 19, 2022 11:58PM

Cornell95
One of the species that was planted as a potential replacemennt was the Zelcova Serrata
There was a substantial number planted, I distinctly remember a bunch in front of Lincoln on the Arts quad

They unfortunately don't reach the same towering height, and while they do have a similar vase shape that would create the desired 'arch' form over narrower spans, they also didnt handle snow/ice load as well and were known to split badly. While I was on campus in the 90s it seemed like every other one had been 'saved' with cabling

I recall there were several research efforts to find resistant cultivars... but it is a serious endeavor and the time required for research, commercialization and then growth to a mature replacement size tree is multiple decades of effort. There are of course additional emerging disease issues hitting other species now (the Ash tree will be practically non-existent in the NorthEast in the next 5 years).

I think my solution would be to widen the tree planting verge (whatever you want to call it—by the road) and go with oaks, but then they are a bit randomly shed-dy of branches at inopportune moments. And lots of moving sidewalks, etc. Whatever works. Just no puff-ball dwarfs, dammit!

What's happening to ashes is a tragedy. Lost three huge ones along our neighbor's back fence (southern CT) just this year.
 
Re: Yet another collegetown bar bites the dust
Posted by: RichH (---.washdc.fios.verizon.net)
Date: February 26, 2022 12:54PM

Huh. Hadn’t heard (or forgot) about this:

[cornellsun.com]

A quote from an early patron: “Here, I can sit down with my friends and grab a beer and pizza, which is not an experience I really had before.”

Didn’t have that experience. IN COLLEGETOWN.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 02/26/2022 12:56PM by RichH.
 
Re: Yet another collegetown bar bites the dust
Posted by: Scersk '97 (38.81.106.---)
Date: February 26, 2022 03:08PM

RichH
A quote from an early patron: “Here, I can sit down with my friends and grab a beer and pizza, which is not an experience I really had before.”

Didn’t have that experience. IN COLLEGETOWN.

Also: "The one thing Collegetown was missing was a sports bar vibe."

Yeah, the one thing that's never missing anywhere is a sports bar "vibe."

Interiors look sterile to me. I'll never get the fetish for exposed lightbulbs.
 
Re: Yet another collegetown bar bites the dust
Posted by: Trotsky (---.washdc.fios.verizon.net)
Date: February 26, 2022 06:38PM

Scersk '97
I'll never get the fetish for exposed lightbulbs.
It's 2010-2019 for "Naugahyde."

Each period's gimmicks quickly date themselves.

cf. granite counter tops, stainless steel appliances.
Edited 4 time(s). Last edit at 02/26/2022 06:42PM by Trotsky.
 
Re: Yet another collegetown bar bites the dust
Posted by: RichH (---.washdc.fios.verizon.net)
Date: February 26, 2022 08:11PM

Trotsky
Scersk '97
I'll never get the fetish for exposed lightbulbs.
It's 2010-2019 for "Naugahyde."

Each period's gimmicks quickly date themselves.

cf. granite counter tops, stainless steel appliances.

Orange and olive Formica forever, because the 1970s aesthetic was the peak of modern society. Anything else are just passing fads.
 
Re: Yet another collegetown bar bites the dust
Posted by: Trotsky (---.washdc.fios.verizon.net)
Date: February 26, 2022 08:38PM

RichH
Trotsky
Scersk '97
I'll never get the fetish for exposed lightbulbs.
It's 2010-2019 for "Naugahyde."

Each period's gimmicks quickly date themselves.

cf. granite counter tops, stainless steel appliances.

Orange and olive Formica forever, because the 1970s aesthetic was the peak of modern society. Anything else are just passing fads.
And whatever this is called:


 
Re: Yet another collegetown bar bites the dust
Posted by: Jeff Hopkins '82 (---.44.98.30.res-cmts.sm.ptd.net)
Date: February 26, 2022 08:53PM

Trotsky
RichH
Trotsky
Scersk '97
I'll never get the fetish for exposed lightbulbs.
It's 2010-2019 for "Naugahyde."

Each period's gimmicks quickly date themselves.

cf. granite counter tops, stainless steel appliances.

Orange and olive Formica forever, because the 1970s aesthetic was the peak of modern society. Anything else are just passing fads.
And whatever this is called:


It's called ugly.
 
Re: Yet another collegetown bar bites the dust
Posted by: Trotsky (---.washdc.fios.verizon.net)
Date: February 26, 2022 09:05PM

Jeff Hopkins '82
Trotsky
RichH
Trotsky
Scersk '97
I'll never get the fetish for exposed lightbulbs.
It's 2010-2019 for "Naugahyde."

Each period's gimmicks quickly date themselves.

cf. granite counter tops, stainless steel appliances.

Orange and olive Formica forever, because the 1970s aesthetic was the peak of modern society. Anything else are just passing fads.
And whatever this is called:


It's called ugly.

You wouldn't say that if Lana Turner were wiping it down.


 
Re: Yet another collegetown bar bites the dust
Posted by: Roy 82 (---.hsd1.ca.comcast.net)
Date: February 26, 2022 09:11PM

Jeff Hopkins '82
Trotsky
RichH
Trotsky
Scersk '97
I'll never get the fetish for exposed lightbulbs.
It's 2010-2019 for "Naugahyde."

Each period's gimmicks quickly date themselves.

cf. granite counter tops, stainless steel appliances.

Orange and olive Formica forever, because the 1970s aesthetic was the peak of modern society. Anything else are just passing fads.
And whatever this is called:


It's called ugly.

Mid-century ugly to be precise.
 
Re: Yet another collegetown bar bites the dust
Posted by: Scersk '97 (38.81.106.---)
Date: February 26, 2022 09:25PM

RichH
Trotsky
Scersk '97
I'll never get the fetish for exposed lightbulbs.
It's 2010-2019 for "Naugahyde."

Each period's gimmicks quickly date themselves.

cf. granite counter tops, stainless steel appliances.

Orange and olive Formica forever, because the 1970s aesthetic was the peak of modern society. Anything else are just passing fads.

That picture Greg linked to was beautiful.

The 70s ski lodge aesthetic will always have my heart.
 
Re: Yet another collegetown bar bites the dust
Posted by: Jeff Hopkins '82 (---.44.98.30.res-cmts.sm.ptd.net)
Date: February 26, 2022 09:36PM

Trotsky
Jeff Hopkins '82
Trotsky
RichH
Trotsky
Scersk '97
I'll never get the fetish for exposed lightbulbs.
It's 2010-2019 for "Naugahyde."

Each period's gimmicks quickly date themselves.

cf. granite counter tops, stainless steel appliances.

Orange and olive Formica forever, because the 1970s aesthetic was the peak of modern society. Anything else are just passing fads.
And whatever this is called:


It's called ugly.

You wouldn't say that if Lana Turner were wiping it down.


I think I'd probably ask, "Who's that beautiful woman wiping down that ugly counter?" rolleyes
 
Re: Yet another collegetown bar bites the dust
Posted by: TimV (---.nycap.res.rr.com)
Date: February 27, 2022 10:22AM

Scersk '97
RichH
Trotsky
Scersk '97
I'll never get the fetish for exposed lightbulbs.
It's 2010-2019 for "Naugahyde."

Each period's gimmicks quickly date themselves.

cf. granite counter tops, stainless steel appliances.

Orange and olive Formica forever, because the 1970s aesthetic was the peak of modern society. Anything else are just passing fads.

That picture Greg linked to was beautiful.

The 70s ski lodge aesthetic will always have my heart.

The brick makes it more urban than ski lodge. Needs more wood. And more cowbell.

 
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Re: Yet another collegetown bar bites the dust
Posted by: Scersk '97 (38.81.106.---)
Date: February 27, 2022 10:50AM

TimV
Scersk '97
RichH
Trotsky
Scersk '97
I'll never get the fetish for exposed lightbulbs.
It's 2010-2019 for "Naugahyde."

Each period's gimmicks quickly date themselves.

cf. granite counter tops, stainless steel appliances.

Orange and olive Formica forever, because the 1970s aesthetic was the peak of modern society. Anything else are just passing fads.

That picture Greg linked to was beautiful.

The 70s ski lodge aesthetic will always have my heart.

The brick makes it more urban than ski lodge. Needs more wood. And more cowbell.

The brick is because it's built, in my imagination, against the slope, and the reverse shot would be all windows and mountains.
 
Re: Yet another collegetown bar bites the dust
Posted by: Trotsky (---.washdc.fios.verizon.net)
Date: February 27, 2022 10:59AM

I don't think of Naugahyde as apres ski.


 
Re: Yet another collegetown bar bites the dust
Posted by: billhoward (---.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net)
Date: June 12, 2022 07:53PM

Hmmph. Hardly any recent posts on Collegetown bars closing.
 
Re: Yet another collegetown bar bites the dust
Posted by: Trotsky (---.net.cia.gov)
Date: June 13, 2022 04:06PM

billhoward
Hmmph. Hardly any recent posts on Collegetown bars closing.
Do any remain?
 
Re: Yet another collegetown bar bites the dust
Posted by: Iceberg (---.phlapa.fios.verizon.net)
Date: June 18, 2022 06:19PM

Trotsky
billhoward
Hmmph. Hardly any recent posts on Collegetown bars closing.
Do any remain?


Very, very scant compared to even when I was an underclassman ten years ago and bars were starting to close (i.e. The Palms). I was up there a few months ago and the only ones that were operational before I graduated are Level B and Loco, with the latter opening while I was still a student. Hideaway has been in the former Dunbars spot for quite a few years now and Ithaca Beer Company recently opened up a location in Collegetown. It's funny because when I was a student I thought it couldn't get any worse in Collegetown
Edited 3 time(s). Last edit at 06/18/2022 06:21PM by Iceberg.
 
Re: Yet another collegetown bar bites the dust
Posted by: billhoward (---.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net)
Date: June 21, 2022 02:51PM

Iceberg
... when I was a student I thought it couldn't get any worse in Collegetown
As the number of bars goes down, rental rates go up. I was leafing through Collegetown rental sites, they seemed outrageous. But then I see Cornell dorms are $9,000-$12,000 for the year.
 
Re: Yet another collegetown bar bites the dust
Posted by: George64 (---.rochester.res.rr.com)
Date: September 01, 2022 05:51PM

Yet, Moosewood survives! NY Times article.
 
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