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Yet another collegetown bar bites the dust

Posted by Ben Rocky '04 
Yet another collegetown bar bites the dust
Posted by: Ben Rocky '04 (---.ngpsoftware.com)
Date: December 31, 2015 02:06PM

Sadness.
[cornellsun.com]

Not gonna miss the bathrooms though.....
 
Re: Yet another collegetown bar bites the dust
Posted by: Trotsky (---.dc.dc.cox.net)
Date: December 31, 2015 02:22PM

I had no idea Dunbar's had only been open for 2 years when I first stumbled in there in 1981. I assumed it had been there since the 60s.

It is comforting, however, to know it looked like a shithole right from the beginning.



Farewell, youth.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 12/31/2015 02:24PM by Trotsky.
 
Re: Yet another collegetown bar bites the dust
Posted by: gonyr (---.buffalo.res.rr.com)
Date: December 31, 2015 03:29PM

And there goes the one of the last reasons to go to Collegetown. How long does Rulloff's have left?
 
Re: Yet another collegetown bar bites the dust
Posted by: scoop85 (---.hvc.res.rr.com)
Date: December 31, 2015 03:31PM

Trotsky
I had no idea Dunbar's had only been open for 2 years when I first stumbled in there in 1981. I assumed it had been there since the 60s.

It is comforting, however, to know it looked like a shithole right from the beginning.



Farewell, youth.

I too arrived in 1981, and likewise had assumed Dunbars had been around for years. It may have always looked like a shithole, but it was our shithole.
 
Re: Yet another collegetown bar bites the dust
Posted by: Trotsky (---.dc.dc.cox.net)
Date: December 31, 2015 03:42PM

scoop85
Trotsky
I had no idea Dunbar's had only been open for 2 years when I first stumbled in there in 1981. I assumed it had been there since the 60s.

It is comforting, however, to know it looked like a shithole right from the beginning.



Farewell, youth.

I too arrived in 1981, and likewise had assumed Dunbars had been around for years. It may have always looked like a shithole, but it was our shithole.

Hopefully the very last song on the very last night was "American Pie," split awkwardly across two recordings.
 
Re: Yet another collegetown bar bites the dust
Posted by: Jeff Hopkins '82 (---.102.129.41.res-cmts.sm.ptd.net)
Date: December 31, 2015 08:39PM

The bar was on the site for a while before Pep bought it and renamed it Dunbar's. When I arrived on campus it was called The Gin Mill. Before that it was called Maury's.

Pep and Lee bought it in '79 and changed the name to Dunbar's in 1980. It was named after Pep's dog. That's the date the article refers to.

It breaks my heart. I loved that place.
Edited 3 time(s). Last edit at 01/09/2016 03:28PM by Jeff Hopkins '82.
 
Re: Yet another collegetown bar bites the dust
Posted by: Ben Rocky '04 (---.ngpsoftware.com)
Date: January 05, 2016 10:13AM

Rulloffs closed in late 2014, and then reopened in 2015.
[dining.14850.com]
 
Re: Yet another collegetown bar bites the dust
Posted by: Trotsky (---.dc.dc.cox.net)
Date: January 05, 2016 10:16AM

Ben Rocky '04
Rulloffs closed in late 2014, and then reopened in 2015.
[dining.14850.com]
Food writers should be stabbed in the face.

Were there any significant changes to Rulloff's structurally?
 
Re: Yet another collegetown bar bites the dust
Posted by: ugarte (---.177.169.163.ipyx-102276-zyo.zip.zayo.com)
Date: January 05, 2016 04:13PM

Trotsky
Ben Rocky '04
Rulloffs closed in late 2014, and then reopened in 2015.
[dining.14850.com]
Food writers should be stabbed in the face.

Were there any significant changes to Rulloff's structurally?
Please check the byline on that article and report back, Greg.

 
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Re: Yet another collegetown bar bites the dust
Posted by: Trotsky (---.dc.dc.cox.net)
Date: January 05, 2016 04:17PM

ugarte
Trotsky
Ben Rocky '04
Rulloffs closed in late 2014, and then reopened in 2015.
[dining.14850.com]
Food writers should be stabbed in the face.

Were there any significant changes to Rulloff's structurally?
Please check the byline on that article and report back, Greg.
Well, food writers except for Mark should be stabbed in the face...
 
Re: Yet another collegetown bar bites the dust
Posted by: RatushnyFan (74.118.217.---)
Date: January 05, 2016 04:28PM

RIP Dunbars. I knew ye well.
 
Re: Yet another collegetown bar bites the dust
Posted by: RichH (134.223.230.---)
Date: January 05, 2016 04:28PM

Trotsky
Were there any significant changes to Rulloff's structurally?

I stopped in shortly after the re-open last winter, and while I didn't go to the downstairs seating area, it sure looked the same to me. A little cleaned up and polished, too.
 
Re: Yet another collegetown bar bites the dust
Posted by: RichH (134.223.230.---)
Date: January 05, 2016 04:32PM

I posted a list in another thread, and present it, updated as best as I know:

Current Collegetown spots with a bar:
Collegetown Bagels
Resurrected Rulloff's
The Nines
Level B
Jack's Grill
Loco Cantina


RIP:
Palms
Dino's
Johnny's
Johnny O's
The Chariot
The Connection/Bear Den (College Ave)
Little Joe's
Pixel
Stella's
Chapter House*
Dunbar's

*Shall Rise Again from the ashes.
 
Re: Yet another collegetown bar bites the dust
Posted by: Scersk '97 (---.hsd1.ct.comcast.net)
Date: January 05, 2016 06:20PM

RichH
*Shall Rise Again from the ashes.

Some part of me hopes that the closing of Dunbar's will speed this process along a bit.

(Never much of a Dunbar's guy, but I did have the worst shot of my life there… so that's something.)
 
Re: Yet another collegetown bar bites the dust
Posted by: Trotsky (---.hsd1.md.comcast.net)
Date: January 05, 2016 07:57PM

Scersk '97
RichH
*Shall Rise Again from the ashes.

Some part of me hopes that the closing of Dunbar's will speed this process along a bit.

(Never much of a Dunbar's guy, but I did have the worst shot of my life there… so that's something.)
Worst shot of my life was at The Connection. Best popcorn I've ever had was there, too.
 
Re: Yet another collegetown bar bites the dust
Posted by: toddlose (---.hsd1.fl.comcast.net)
Date: January 05, 2016 08:42PM

Scersk '97
RichH
*Shall Rise Again from the ashes.

Some part of me hopes that the closing of Dunbar's will speed this process along a bit.

(Never much of a Dunbar's guy, but I did have the worst shot of my life there… so that's something.)

What was the name of that shot? Salsa by any chance?
 
Re: Yet another collegetown bar bites the dust
Posted by: Scersk '97 (---.hsd1.ct.comcast.net)
Date: January 07, 2016 05:19PM

toddlose
Scersk '97
RichH
*Shall Rise Again from the ashes.

Some part of me hopes that the closing of Dunbar's will speed this process along a bit.

(Never much of a Dunbar's guy, but I did have the worst shot of my life there… so that's something.)

What was the name of that shot? Salsa by any chance?

I'll give you an acronym: FLDA. The D was Worcestershire sauce, I believe. Casting about the internets for a recipe, I'm pretty sure the ringleader of this foolish shot drinking business just added that in for good measure.
 
Re: Yet another collegetown bar bites the dust
Posted by: Scersk '97 (---.hsd1.ct.comcast.net)
Date: January 07, 2016 05:21PM

Trotsky
Scersk '97
RichH
*Shall Rise Again from the ashes.

Some part of me hopes that the closing of Dunbar's will speed this process along a bit.

(Never much of a Dunbar's guy, but I did have the worst shot of my life there… so that's something.)
Worst shot of my life was at The Connection. Best popcorn I've ever had was there, too.

Ah, The Connection! Which was open, strangely, once my senior year, that I'm aware of. Seeing those lights on was like sighting the Flying Dutchman.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 01/07/2016 05:21PM by Scersk '97.
 
Re: Yet another collegetown bar bites the dust
Posted by: RichH (134.223.230.---)
Date: January 07, 2016 06:45PM

Scersk '97
toddlose
Scersk '97
RichH
*Shall Rise Again from the ashes.

Some part of me hopes that the closing of Dunbar's will speed this process along a bit.

(Never much of a Dunbar's guy, but I did have the worst shot of my life there… so that's something.)

What was the name of that shot? Salsa by any chance?

I'll give you an acronym: FLDA. The D was Worcestershire sauce, I believe. Casting about the internets for a recipe, I'm pretty sure the ringleader of this foolish shot drinking business just added that in for good measure.

The bartender sent me across the street to the Universal Deli to buy Worcestershire sauce specifically for this terrible idea.
 
Re: Yet another collegetown bar bites the dust
Posted by: toddlose (---.hsd1.fl.comcast.net)
Date: January 07, 2016 07:35PM

RichH
Scersk '97
toddlose
Scersk '97
RichH
*Shall Rise Again from the ashes.

Some part of me hopes that the closing of Dunbar's will speed this process along a bit.

(Never much of a Dunbar's guy, but I did have the worst shot of my life there… so that's something.)

What was the name of that shot? Salsa by any chance?

I'll give you an acronym: FLDA. The D was Worcestershire sauce, I believe. Casting about the internets for a recipe, I'm pretty sure the ringleader of this foolish shot drinking business just added that in for good measure.

The bartender sent me across the street to the Universal Deli to buy Worcestershire sauce specifically for this terrible idea.

Not the shot that I got accustomed too. The shot I'm thinking of is bacardi 151, tequila and tobacco sauce. Just thinking about the taste (and smell) turns my stomach to this day.
 
Re: Yet another collegetown bar bites the dust
Posted by: KeithK (---.hsd1.ca.comcast.net)
Date: January 08, 2016 03:10AM

toddlose
RichH
Scersk '97
toddlose
Scersk '97
RichH
*Shall Rise Again from the ashes.

Some part of me hopes that the closing of Dunbar's will speed this process along a bit.

(Never much of a Dunbar's guy, but I did have the worst shot of my life there… so that's something.)

What was the name of that shot? Salsa by any chance?

I'll give you an acronym: FLDA. The D was Worcestershire sauce, I believe. Casting about the internets for a recipe, I'm pretty sure the ringleader of this foolish shot drinking business just added that in for good measure.

The bartender sent me across the street to the Universal Deli to buy Worcestershire sauce specifically for this terrible idea.

Not the shot that I got accustomed too. The shot I'm thinking of is bacardi 151, tequila and tobacco sauce. Just thinking about the taste (and smell) turns my stomach to this day.
Tobacco sauce? That really sounds awful!
 
Re: Yet another collegetown bar bites the dust
Posted by: toddlose (---.hsd1.fl.comcast.net)
Date: January 08, 2016 06:52AM

Guess I should have checked my reply before posting. Haha. For the record, it was tobasco sauce. It was bad.
 
Re: Yet another collegetown bar bites the dust
Posted by: Jeff Hopkins '82 (---.nys.biz.rr.com)
Date: January 09, 2016 03:25PM

I stopped in at Dunbar's after lunch in C-town this afternoon. Lee was there doing a little bit of shutdown work,

There's not a lot left. A few ceiling tiles, the bar and the booths along the north wall, and a couple of cheap beer signs nailed to the walls. He mentioned they have a couple of signed hockey sweaters (one from Mike Richter) that they're willing to sell, but pretty much everything worth having is gone.

Lee told me that it came down to a landlord who made things difficult for them (he actually had some choice words to describe her). It just became too stressful for Pep to keep the place open. It started affecting his health (he's in Florida R&R-ing for the next couple months). And given what they're building in place of the Palms - another 6 story apartment block - it wouldn't surprise me if the whole goal was to shut them down so she could build something big and gaudy in it's place.

Damn shame. :`-(
Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 01/15/2016 07:31PM by Jeff Hopkins '82.
 
Re: Yet another collegetown bar bites the dust
Posted by: RatushnyFan (74.118.217.---)
Date: January 14, 2016 02:23PM

Too many prairie fires at Dunbar's.....tequila and Tabasco sauce. The boys used to buy them for me and dare me to drink them. I usually did. I think my stomach still has a lining but I'm not sure.
 
New bar in Dunbar's location
Posted by: David Harding (---.hfc.comcastbusiness.net)
Date: August 07, 2016 07:54PM

Cornell Sun reports that a new bar, Hideaway, will open in Dunbar's old location "before the fall semester." They're writing the name using Greek letters that look like Roman letters, starting with a capital eta for the "H". I remember the location as home of Morrie's.
 
Re: New bar in Dunbar's location
Posted by: RichH (134.223.116.---)
Date: August 08, 2016 11:43AM

David Harding
Cornell Sun reports that a new bar, Hideaway, will open in Dunbar's old location "before the fall semester." They're writing the name using Greek letters that look like Roman letters, starting with a capital eta for the "H". I remember the location as home of Morrie's.

Regarding that old Sun article, that's quite the waggish caption to a photo with violent undertones.
 
Re: New bar in Dunbar's location
Posted by: Jeff Hopkins '82 (---.cws.sco.cisco.com)
Date: August 08, 2016 04:51PM

David Harding
Cornell Sun reports that a new bar, Hideaway, will open in Dunbar's old location "before the fall semester." They're writing the name using Greek letters that look like Roman letters, starting with a capital eta for the "H". I remember the location as home of Morrie's.

When I arrived on Campus (1978) it had already changed to The Gin Mill. Pep and Lee bought it in late '79 or early '80 and changed the name to Dunbar's in the fall of '80.
 
Rongo for sale
Posted by: David Harding (---.hsd1.il.comcast.net)
Date: October 21, 2016 09:08PM

It's not Collegetown and it's not closing, but Rogo is up for sale in an attempt to attract a new chef by offering part ownership. [ithacavoice.com]
 
Hal's Deli closing
Posted by: David Harding (---.hsd1.il.comcast.net)
Date: March 11, 2017 12:26PM

Not in Collegetown and not a bar, but this is a reasonable place to mention Hal's Deli closing.
 
Re: Hal's Deli closing
Posted by: George64 (---.rochester.res.rr.com)
Date: March 11, 2017 02:17PM

David Harding
Not in Collegetown and not a bar, but this is a reasonable place to mention Hal's Deli closing.

I certainly remember Hal's Deli and of course Hal, who was a fixture at Cornell basketball games in Barton Hall. His son, Mike who's pictured, was a ballboy for Sam MacNeil's team.
 
Re: Hal's Deli closing
Posted by: Dafatone (---.midco.net)
Date: April 26, 2017 11:24AM

George64
David Harding
Not in Collegetown and not a bar, but this is a reasonable place to mention Hal's Deli closing.

I certainly remember Hal's Deli and of course Hal, who was a fixture at Cornell basketball games in Barton Hall. His son, Mike who's pictured, was a ballboy for Sam MacNeil's team.

My friends and I agreed Hal's had the fastest delivery. They once got us our food in 7 minutes, and we lived a couple miles away.
 
Re: Yet another collegetown bar bites the dust
Posted by: CU2007 (160.254.108.---)
Date: April 26, 2017 01:16PM

Which bars still exist in collegetown?
 
Re: Yet another collegetown bar bites the dust
Posted by: RichH (134.223.116.---)
Date: April 26, 2017 02:06PM

CU2007
Which bars still exist in collegetown?

From this very thread, which to the best of my knowledge is accurate. (Added Dunbar's replacement, Hideaway):

Current Collegetown spots with a bar:
Collegetown Bagels
Resurrected Rulloff's
The Nines
Level B
Jack's Grill
Loco Cantina
Hideaway


RIP:
Palms
Dino's
Johnny's
Johnny O's
The Chariot
The Connection/Bear Den (College Ave)
Little Joe's
Pixel
Stella's
Chapter House*
Dunbar's
 
Re: Hal's Deli closing
Posted by: Trotsky (---.dc.dc.cox.net)
Date: April 26, 2017 02:59PM

Well clearly kids have stopped drinking...
 
Re: Hal's Deli closing
Posted by: billhoward (---.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net)
Date: April 28, 2017 02:44PM

David Harding
Not in Collegetown and not a bar, but this is a reasonable place to mention Hal's Deli closing.
Sad to see Hal's close. But ... Our fraternity at reunion three years ago (or was it eight?) went there Sunday morning for brunch. The place was a little dimmer and grayer than we remembered from undergrad years. One spouse used the ladies room and said that'd be the last time she did that. Once, Hal's was about the only place to get a good bagel. Hal's did not adapt to the rising competition or quickly branch to meet customer interests such as coffees beyond regular and decaf. Recalls the line from Inherit the Wind: Sometimes you can change by standing still. I feel disloyal saying that. If you haven't gone back, just hang on to your memories from the 80s.
 
Re: Hal's Deli closing
Posted by: Robb (---.host.ucla.edu)
Date: April 29, 2017 08:24PM

Trotsky
Well clearly kids have stopped drinking...
Nah. Just no difference between drinking at home vs. a bar when you're just staring into your phone either way.
 
Re: Hal's Deli closing
Posted by: billhoward (---.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net)
Date: April 30, 2017 08:43PM

Robb
Trotsky
Well clearly kids have stopped drinking...
Nah. Just no difference between drinking at home vs. a bar when you're just staring into your phone either way.
Maybe the phone in public is a way to look busy not alone, the way you could fiddle with a cigarette a generation ago.
 
Re: Yet another collegetown bar bites the dust
Posted by: George64 (---.rochester.res.rr.com)
Date: July 06, 2017 10:21PM

Image credit to Corey Ryan Earle '07

 
Re: Yet another collegetown bar bites the dust
Posted by: jtwcornell91 (Moderator)
Date: July 19, 2017 11:22AM

George64
Image credit to Corey Ryan Earle '07

I was going to say "What, the Chariot doesn't make the list?" but I then I remembered it's been closed for over a decade. uhoh

 
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Re: Yet another collegetown bar bites the dust
Posted by: Trotsky (---.washdc.fios.verizon.net)
Date: July 19, 2017 09:47PM

jtwcornell91
George64
Image credit to Corey Ryan Earle '07

I was going to say "What, the Chariot doesn't make the list?" but I then I remembered it's been closed for over a decade. uhoh
That was the beginning of the deep rot.
 
Re: Yet another collegetown bar bites the dust - best US college bars
Posted by: billhoward (---.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net)
Date: July 21, 2017 09:54AM

[www.msn.com] Clickbait, "The 51 Best College Bars in America." Cornell not among the winners. Apparently no other Ivy schools either. Checked by googling the story title and each school name one at a time. Otherwise you click through fifty-some screens.
 
Re: Yet another collegetown bar bites the dust - best US college bars
Posted by: George64 (---.rochester.res.rr.com)
Date: July 21, 2017 01:53PM

Actually clicking through 50+ screens didn't take long and yielded better results: 21 Harvard, 32 Dartmouth and 41 Brown. Links provided for non-retirees who should be working.
 
Re: Yet another collegetown bar bites the dust
Posted by: French Rage (---.hsd1.ca.comcast.net)
Date: July 22, 2017 04:53PM

And while the Dutch Goose is a nice place to grab burgers and beer and watch Stanford beat USC at The Coliseum, it's not really a bar in the classic sense (more of a bar and grill) and it's more of a local place that college students happen to go to occasionally rather than a student place.

 
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Re: Yet another collegetown bar bites the dust
Posted by: Tom Lento (199.201.64.---)
Date: August 10, 2017 08:52PM

French Rage
And while the Dutch Goose is a nice place to grab burgers and beer and watch Stanford beat USC at The Coliseum, it's not really a bar in the classic sense (more of a bar and grill) and it's more of a local place that college students happen to go to occasionally rather than a student place.

The Dutch Goose is clearly deserving, if only because of the deviled eggs...
 
Re: Yet another collegetown bar bites the dust
Posted by: upprdeck (---.fs.cornell.edu)
Date: September 11, 2017 10:36AM

Is the Nines the next to go? I saw links on Ithaca Voice about a project to replace the building with a 6 story apt. building..
 
Re: Yet another collegetown bar bites the dust
Posted by: RichH (134.223.116.---)
Date: September 11, 2017 11:24AM

upprdeck
Is the Nines the next to go? I saw links on Ithaca Voice about a project to replace the building with a 6 story apt. building..

Story here: [ithacavoice.com]

Rather than management retirement, poor business, or a fire, this is just out-and-out landlord greed and thirst to milk the "luxury highrise" market dry. Nevermind the views of the surrounding hills, soon you'll barely be able to get daylight on College Ave or Dryden Rd with the canyon that's slowly being pieced together.
 
Re: Yet another collegetown bar bites the dust
Posted by: upprdeck (---.fs.cornell.edu)
Date: September 11, 2017 03:57PM

one would wonder if the nines would come back to life in another location of the many places in college town that are long gone. its has a loyal following.
 
Re: Yet another collegetown bar bites the dust
Posted by: billhoward (---.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net)
Date: September 12, 2017 09:36AM

upprdeck
one would wonder if the nines would come back to life in another location of the many places in college town that are long gone. its has a loyal following.
Nines is running out of competitors to be loyal to.
 
Re: Yet another collegetown bar bites the dust
Posted by: Jeff Hopkins '82 (---.37.26.69.virtela.net)
Date: September 13, 2017 04:59PM

RichH
upprdeck
Is the Nines the next to go? I saw links on Ithaca Voice about a project to replace the building with a 6 story apt. building..

Story here: [ithacavoice.com]

Rather than management retirement, poor business, or a fire, this is just out-and-out landlord greed and thirst to milk the "luxury highrise" market dry. Nevermind the views of the surrounding hills, soon you'll barely be able to get daylight on College Ave or Dryden Rd with the canyon that's slowly being pieced together.

Frankly, that was a similar reason to Dunbar's closing, too. The landlord just made life unbearable because she wanted to do something else with the space.
 
Re: Yet another collegetown bar bites the dust
Posted by: RichH (134.223.116.---)
Date: September 14, 2017 11:17AM

Jeff Hopkins '82
RichH
upprdeck
Is the Nines the next to go? I saw links on Ithaca Voice about a project to replace the building with a 6 story apt. building..

Story here: [ithacavoice.com]

Rather than management retirement, poor business, or a fire, this is just out-and-out landlord greed and thirst to milk the "luxury highrise" market dry. Nevermind the views of the surrounding hills, soon you'll barely be able to get daylight on College Ave or Dryden Rd with the canyon that's slowly being pieced together.

Frankly, that was a similar reason to Dunbar's closing, too. The landlord just made life unbearable because she wanted to do something else with the space.

Something else, like another bar?? My memory (2nd hand) is that Pep just wanted to move south and he gave several years notice that he was looking for a buyer.
 
Re: Yet another collegetown bar bites the dust
Posted by: Jeff Hopkins '82 (---.37.26.69.virtela.net)
Date: September 14, 2017 11:49AM

RichH
Jeff Hopkins '82
RichH
upprdeck
Is the Nines the next to go? I saw links on Ithaca Voice about a project to replace the building with a 6 story apt. building..

Story here: [ithacavoice.com]

Rather than management retirement, poor business, or a fire, this is just out-and-out landlord greed and thirst to milk the "luxury highrise" market dry. Nevermind the views of the surrounding hills, soon you'll barely be able to get daylight on College Ave or Dryden Rd with the canyon that's slowly being pieced together.

Frankly, that was a similar reason to Dunbar's closing, too. The landlord just made life unbearable because she wanted to do something else with the space.

Something else, like another bar?? My memory (2nd hand) is that Pep just wanted to move south and he gave several years notice that he was looking for a buyer.

According to Lee, Pep wanted to get out mainly because running the bar became too stressful thanks to demands from the landlord. They felt she was trying to force them out. What those demands were, he wasn't specific about. But it was clear to me that he felt they would have kept the bar open if not for the landlord.
 

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