Cornell only Ivy in WSJ Top 25 on desirability-of-hiring
Posted by billhoward
Cornell only Ivy in WSJ Top 25 on desirability-of-hiring
Posted by: billhoward (---.hsd1.nj.comcast.net)
Date: September 13, 2010 08:02AM
[online.wsj.com] rates the Top 25 colleges in America on the quality of their graduates in the eyes of recruiters. We're No. 14. We're the only Ivy among the top 25. The top five are, I believe, schools we could whip in basketball as well (last year):
1. Penn State
2. Texas A&M
3. Illinois
4. Purdue
5. Arizona State
In a breakdown among majors/colleges, WSJ puts Cornell #7 in Engineering. Informed of its non-standing, a Harvard spokesman sniffed, "Harvard College graduates consistently experience success in the job market and in their chosen fields." What the recruiters apparently didn't like was that the newly sheepskinned Crimson tended to stay only a year or two in their first job and then head back to grad school.
Talk about Reporting Lite. The drilldown on Cornell doesn't tell you much. I could have written it (Ugarte,insert quick comeback here): "This Ivy League school is located in the Finger Lakes region of central New York, about 225 miles to New York City. There are more than 500 student organizations, with attendees coming from all 50 states and more than 100 nations. Undergraduates pursue studies in more than 80 academic programs in the university's seven undergraduate colleges."
1. Penn State
2. Texas A&M
3. Illinois
4. Purdue
5. Arizona State
In a breakdown among majors/colleges, WSJ puts Cornell #7 in Engineering. Informed of its non-standing, a Harvard spokesman sniffed, "Harvard College graduates consistently experience success in the job market and in their chosen fields." What the recruiters apparently didn't like was that the newly sheepskinned Crimson tended to stay only a year or two in their first job and then head back to grad school.
Talk about Reporting Lite. The drilldown on Cornell doesn't tell you much. I could have written it (Ugarte,insert quick comeback here): "This Ivy League school is located in the Finger Lakes region of central New York, about 225 miles to New York City. There are more than 500 student organizations, with attendees coming from all 50 states and more than 100 nations. Undergraduates pursue studies in more than 80 academic programs in the university's seven undergraduate colleges."
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 09/13/2010 08:05AM by billhoward.
Re: Cornell only Ivy in WSJ Top 25 on desirability-of-hiring
Posted by: ursusminor (---.nrl.navy.mil)
Date: September 13, 2010 09:46AM
They did consider MIT to be an Ivy.
23. Massachusetts Institute of Technology
This Massachusetts school's main campus is in Cambridge, extending 168 acres, some of which across the Charles River Basin. The Ivy League school accepted 10.7% of applicants in 2009, with just 10% in-state.
23. Massachusetts Institute of Technology
This Massachusetts school's main campus is in Cambridge, extending 168 acres, some of which across the Charles River Basin. The Ivy League school accepted 10.7% of applicants in 2009, with just 10% in-state.
Re: Cornell only Ivy in WSJ Top 25 on desirability-of-hiring
Posted by: Robb (---.198-178.cust.bluewin.ch)
Date: September 13, 2010 04:48PM
And Stanford. "While companies didn't rate Ivy League grads best overall, several did favor them in some specific majors. Stanford University, for example, was ranked No. 11 in engineering recruits and No. 16 in business/economics; Harvard was No. 4 in business and economics."ursusminor
They did consider MIT to be an Ivy.
23. Massachusetts Institute of Technology
This Massachusetts school's main campus is in Cambridge, extending 168 acres, some of which across the Charles River Basin. The Ivy League school accepted 10.7% of applicants in 2009, with just 10% in-state.
The Ivy League is growing faster than the PAC-10...
Re: Cornell only Ivy in WSJ Top 25 on desirability-of-hiring
Posted by: Al DeFlorio (---.hsd1.ma.comcast.net)
Date: September 13, 2010 05:06PM
Another example of why I believe nothing I read in the Wall Street Journal.ursusminor
They did consider MIT to be an Ivy.
23. Massachusetts Institute of Technology
This Massachusetts school's main campus is in Cambridge, extending 168 acres, some of which across the Charles River Basin. The Ivy League school accepted 10.7% of applicants in 2009, with just 10% in-state.
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Re: Cornell only Ivy in WSJ Top 25 on desirability-of-hiring
Posted by: ugarte (---.dyn.optonline.net)
Date: September 14, 2010 11:18PM
You couldn't have written it in two sentences.billhoward
I could have written it (Ugarte,insert quick comeback here):
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Re: Cornell only Ivy in WSJ Top 25 on desirability-of-hiring
Posted by: Jeff Hopkins '82 (---.airproducts.com)
Date: September 15, 2010 12:53PM
ugarte
You couldn't have written it in two sentences.billhoward
I could have written it (Ugarte,insert quick comeback here):
Just leave out the punctuation?
Re: Cornell only Ivy in WSJ Top 25 on desirability-of-hiring
Posted by: ftyuv (---.c3-0.smr-ubr1.sbo-smr.ma.cable.rcn.com)
Date: September 16, 2010 01:39AM
ugarte
You couldn't have written it in two sentences.billhoward
I could have written it (Ugarte,insert quick comeback here):
"There are" -> "With"
"with attendees" -> "and attendees"
"nations. Undergraduates" -> "nations, undergraduates"
That's why they paid me the big bucks at the Sun.
Re: Cornell only Ivy in WSJ Top 25 on desirability-of-hiring
Posted by: Trotsky (---.dc.dc.cox.net)
Date: September 16, 2010 10:34AM
Desirability of hiring is a value equation. Ivy grads may be the most skilled, but their salary expectations are probably much higher than grads from the state universities that dominate that list.
Or maybe cute women from state schools are throwing the curve off.
I keeed.
Or maybe cute women from state schools are throwing the curve off.
I keeed.
Re: Cornell only Ivy in WSJ Top 25 on desirability-of-hiring
Posted by: French Rage (---.packetdesign.com)
Date: September 21, 2010 04:00PM
Trotsky
Desirability of hiring is a value equation. Ivy grads may be the most skilled, but their salary expectations are probably much higher than grads from the state universities that dominate that list.
Or maybe cute women from state schools are throwing the curve off.
I keeed.
I recall discussions elsewhere talking about how this also deals more with large companies being able to recruit and interviews lot of students and have large corporate partnerships, which would favor larger schools like state universities over smaller schools like Ivies and liberal arts colleges. To each their own, all rankings have certain amounts of bunk.
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